WEBSTER ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS MINUTES
Webster Town Board Meeting Building 1002 Ridge Road
June 9, 2026
7:00 pm
ABSENT:
Michael Short James Spampinato
Corrine Volo
Chris Centola
John Accorso
Stacie Damelio
John DeMarco, Attorney
Katherine Kolich, Planning & Zoning Secretary
Erika Corsi, Planner of Community Development
Good evening and welcome to the Zoning Board Appeals meeting for the June 9,
2026 meeting. As a reminder, when we get to the public discussion section, time is going to be
limited to 5 minutes per person per application. And the discussion must pertain to the property
and issue being reviewed. We have a total of 7 items. One was a tabled matter that we’re seeing
today. And then item number 7, Waterview Apartments phase 3 is being postponed tabled until
the July Zoning Board meeting. So, if you’re here for the Waterview Apartments phase 3, we’re
not going to hear anything about that tonight. And that’ll be happening during the July meeting.
The board has the right to end the meeting by 10 p.m. if the meeting starts going long. I don’t
think that’ll happen tonight, but if it does, we do have the right to end the meeting by 10 p.m.
Call Roll/Pledge of Allegiance
Summary of Application Outcomes
TABLED MATTERS
:
1. WEBSTER SOLAR GARDEN-139 CARACAS DRIVE-MONTANTE XEROX
SEAN HANNA
TABLED TO JULY 14, 2026
SCHEDULED MATTERS
:
2. POLE BARN-101 MIDNIGHT TRAIL
JOE HERBST
APPROVED AS PRESENTED
3. GARAGE-514 KLEM ROAD
MICHAEL MAYER
APPROVED AS PRESENTED
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4. BAY-RIDGE CORNER SUBDIVISION
SCOTT MEASDAY, LS
APPROVED AS PRESENTED
5. SUBDIVISION LOT WIDTH-1640 LAKE ROAD
MICHAEL SEVERSKY-TRIPLE FAMILY ASSET GROUP LLC
APPROVED AS PRESENTED
6. CHICKENS-1813 HALESWORTH LANE
CHRISTIAN LYKE
APPROVED WITH CONDITIONS: Special Use Permit to expire 6.9.27,
Applicant to return to ZB board for extension; no more than 8 hens; applicant to
Provide screening.
7. WATERVIEW PHASE 3-WILLOWPOINT WAY
LEGACY DEVELOPMENT CO, INC.
TABLED TO JULY 14, 2025
(Erika Corsi, Town Planner presented a PowerPoint Presentation for each application and
read into the record)
Located at 139 Caracus Drive (AKA 750 Phillips Road, AKA
1460 Caracus Drive) SBL #065.02-1-40.11. Applicant Debbie Rice is seeking an interpretation from
the Zoning Board of Appeals to determine whether the Xerox Solar Farm should have been reviewed
under an Industrial Use Permit or a Special Use Permit in accordance with Sections 155-6, Section
350-22, and Section 350-101D (1) of the Code of the Town of Webster.
I think Mr. Hanna was going to make presentation.
Appearing before the board was Sean Hanna. Good evening. I apologize for the delay. I didn’t
know whether there’s a public comment section before we started or not. This is going to be a little
bit different from what you guys are probably used to hearing. Typically, as I understand it, the
Zoning Board of Appeals is in discussions with developers to discuss whether or not a particular
project should be allowed under zoning and you hear you get presentations from the developer,
PowerPoint, that sort of thing. This is going to be a little bit different because for the first time and
I think this is very new and very cool. For the first time a citizen has actually brought a challenge to
the Zoning Board of Appeals to see if town conduct and town classifications for an existing project
were done properly.
So, what ’'m going to be doing is I’m going to be talking to you a little bit about the law. I’ve
presented each of you with a handout. (SEE ATTACHED) I'll give you a little bit of background
for a little bit of context and then to try to keep things as short as possible. We will go through the
process and the decisions step by step, sort of combining what the process should have been with
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what the process actually was. That way I think things will be sped up pretty well.
There was a decision made in Albany some time ago that for better or worse it doesn’t matter what
you think of it. Albany decided that the landfill, the space covering landfill, including hazardous
waste landfills, is just sitting out there all across the state. And they decided that those landfills could
be put to better use if they had solar panels on top of them generating solar electricity. So, they
wanted to encourage that sort of thing. They passed a new program, and they passed a regulation to
accompany that program, and the regulation was designed like I said to encourage it. The best way
to encourage it is to get rid of the obstacles for being permitted and the biggest obstacle is always
SEQR. So, what they decided was that they decided to change a regulation and say that if you put
solar panel...solar electricity generating facility on top of a landfill then we are going to decide per
se that it’s TYPE Il. That means there’s no environmental impact. You don’t have to do an
environmental assessment form. You don’t have to go through the whole SEQR review process. It
speeds things up tremendously and makes things a lot less expensive. And they do that because they
wanted to...they wanted to encourage it. So, there’s a company called Montante who said, ““You
know what? We could take advantage of that plan. There’s a hazardous waste site on Xerox and if
we took a whole bunch of solar panels and put a power generating facility on top of that hazardous
waste site at Xerox, we could get all of the tax benefits, all the revenue, and we wouldn’t have to go
through the SEQR environmental process. So, that’s what they did, and I provided each of you with
handouts. That’s a picture of the site.
Now, the hazardous waste site you’ll see has black top over it. It sort of looks like a great big, huge
parking lot and around it is a bunch of mature virgin forest if you will. And their proposal was to
put solar panels on the black top and to clear cut the forest and put solar panels there as well. So,
that’s the background. What they did then is they submitted a very, very, very incomplete application
to the Town of Webster. And this is where we’ll start talking about the process, what the Town of
Webster did and what it should have done. The second page of the handout that I gave you talks
about the parage of errors. The application was first submitted to Josh Artuso but as I said it was
most incomplete. What should have happened at that time is he should have taken a complete
application made certain preliminary decisions passed it on to the town board where the town board
looks at it and says is this something that warrants further investigation and if so then they vote to
approve it and send it to the Planning Board to conduct that investigation but if after reviewing all
of the information provided in a complete application they decided no go then the application
wouldn’t go any further.
The problem is that Mr. Artuso sent virtually nothing to the town board. They didn’t have a complete
plan. They only had a concept. The preliminary decisions were not appropriately made because
they didn’t have a full application. If fact, when the town board decided to send it to the planning
board for further consideration, the former town supervisor talked about, well, yeah, this is about
building...putting solar panels in a field on Xerox. It wasn’t a field at all, but it wasn’t his fault
because they didn’t have any sort of information.
What should have happened is Mr. Artuso should have told the developer, hold out, we’re not going
to do anything with the application until you give us everything we need. And only when they had
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everything we...they needed, should they have sent it to the town board. Now, the town board is
not faultless either. Once they got the application that contained virtually nothing, they should have
said, “We’re not going to vote on whether or not to send this to the planning board. We don’t even
know what we’re voting on. That’s not what happened. Mr. Artuso sent the matter to the town
board. The town board took the incomplete application and sent it to the planning board without any
discussion, without any questions, without knowing what it was about.
Now, the planning board got it and they saw that...excuse me, after the town board sent it to the
planning board finally, Montante got all their stuff together and submitted it to the planning board
and the next page on your handout is a letter from Montante dated August 11" saying, here’s all the
stuff that you guys need at the planning board to review this and we’re requiring an industrial use
permit and a special use permit. As is required by town law. I have that portion highlighted to you.
So, now the planning board at least has a full application and what did they do with it? First of all,
they only required that it be processed for an industrial use permit. They didn’t require the special
use permit as the town code requires and as Montante itself acknowledged was required by law.
Now, because they didn’t require a special use permit, there are a whole series of questions that could
have been asked and should have been asked for a special use permits that were not asked. And
those. ..some of those considerations are attached in the handout that I gave you. It looks like this,
(holds it up) the EN industrial project and it list A through N and talks about all the things that could
and should be considered for a special use permit. So, under an improper classification or at least
an incomplete classification, only industrial use, not special use, it sent the matter back to the town
board with a stamp of approval and said, “We think this is a good idea”.
Before the town board got to do anything with it, Montante made another important decision. They
said, “Guess what? You know, all those solar panels that we’re going to put on the industrial...excuse
me, on the hazardous waste site, we’re not going to do that anymore. We’ re still going to clear cut
all the trees and put all the solar panels where the forest is now, but we’re not going to put any on
top of the industrial waste site”. Well, guess what? That’s the whole basis for getting the SEQR
TYPE Ii classification without putting the solar panels on the industrial waste site. This is a TYPE
I classification. They have to do all of the environmental leg work or at the very least it’s an
UNCLASSIFIED TYPE and they still have to do all of the environmental leg work.
What happens then is nothing. What the town board should have done is they should have said this
is a substantial change to the application that we have in front of us. Town law says that after
planning board approval, if there’s a substantial change to the project, it has to go back to the
planning board. Substantial change is defined as a change of 10% or more. Montante admitted this
was 20%. So, this should have done back...first of all they should have said hold it, the TYPE II
classification does not apply and this is a substantial change in any of it, it has to go back to the
planning board and the planning board has to ask all the questions that it didn’t ask and Montante
has to provide all the information that they didn’t provide then the planning board has to vote on it,
generate a report with it’s thoughts, send it to us for our consideration and that’s what the planning
board does, it gives counsel to the town board. They didn’t have any council. They didn’t review
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this project. They reviewed a project with solar panels on the hazardous waste site. Now, what was
in front of the board, the town board, was a project without solar panels on the hazardous waste site
and only in the forested section. But what did they do? They didn’t send it back to the planning
board. Instead, what they did is they voted on it and said, “well, this is contingent. We’re going to
vote to approve it contingent upon having subsequent planning board approval. So, they’ve sent us
to the planning board again, still under industrial use.
The planning board should have changed the TYPE II classification to a TYPE I. It did not. It
should have said you’re required to have a special use permit. Even Montante admits that and they
did not do that. The town has suggested that sending it to the planning board after the town board
has already acted was sufficient. Having it subject to planning board approval down the road is
sufficient. We know that it’s not. The law is written sequentially for a reason. As I’ve already
stated, the town board had to have the benefit of planning board council, and it didn’t. there was a
similar situation that occurred just last year with the New York State Legislature. The state
legislature decided that it wanted to present to the voters a change, a constitutional amendment, and
a change to the New York State Constitution. The law says that before they can do that, before they
can vote to put that issue on the ballot, they have to get a report from the attorney general’s office
saying that the proposed change would be constitutional and that the language that was being
proposed was reflective of the legislatures’ intentions. That’s got to come first. They didn’t wait for
that. They voted on Wednesday and they got the AG’s report on Thursday. And the AG’s report
said everything was fine, but they did it in the wrong order. And that went to the New York State
Supreme Court. And the Supreme Court said. “You can’t do that. You have to do it in the right
order. The fact that you’re approving something without even having the attorney general’s report
shows that you’re not following the law. You’re supposed to take the attorney general’s report and
actually read it and consider it and factor it into your voting. And they didn’t do that. The Supreme
Court said you can’t. Said that’s no good. And they reversed it.
What we have here is a project that has been messed up at every stage of the procedure. And because
it has, it has an industrial use permit only, which is insufficient and that mean that it doesn’t fit under
the proper zoning. It needs a special use permit. And if you have any questions about the difference
between special use and industrial use, I’d be happy to discuss them. I’ve given you copies of each
legislation of each set of rules. But essentially what it is, is the industrial use permit regulations say
everything that is allowed and it’s not on there. That’s why you have to couple it with special use
which says okay if this is something that’s going to be happening in an industrial lot but is not
specifically authorized by industrial use reguiations and you need a special use permit. And here are
all the considerations that you have to meet in order to get a special use permit. And when the town
board ultimately votes at the end of the day on whether or not to issue the special use permit, it has
to go through each and every one of those considerations to decide whether the proposed project
meets them, None of that happened. This approval is procedurally deficient from top to bottom.
And as a result, it is also so substantively deficient. It’s up to this board to correct it. And that’s what
I’m asking you to do to indicate that this project may not proceed until it goes back to the planning
board and until they take the proper procedural steps and more importantly until they consider
everything that the law requires them to consider. This isn’t just an argument about technicalities.
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This is an argument about the fact that the things that were supposed to be considered and debated
and evaluated were not. Accordingly, the town’s action have to be reversed. They have to be
stopped, and they have to go back to the drawing board. Thank you.
Any question from the board? I appreciate that. Thank you.
Why don’t you let me start? So, that we...I can help the board decide perhaps what
questions they want to ask or not ask. Sean, I’d look at you from time to time out of courtesy, but
you’re behind that pillar, so you can stay seated. I’m just...I don’t want you to think I’m rude.
So, look as any good advocate would do, as Mr. Hannah does here. You present a mix of fact with
your interpretation of the law and ultimately some conclusions that you want the fact finder, which
in this case is this board to make a final determination kind of just as you would if you were an
appellate body or a jury. And some of you have not been on the board when we’ ve done this before,
but we have done this before on one occasion this what....... Was in the last year or so I can’t
remember and I think it was a citizen that was outside of the applicant I want to say. So, it doesn’t
happen often, but we have done it before.
So, Mr. Hannah has framed the issues a bit more broadly than what I think your duties are here
tonight. Certainly, an argument can be made that with respect to a determination that Josh made had
a cascading effect as this thing wound through the process. However, I’m going to recommend that
you focus on Josh’s determination and much less on the broadness of Mr. Hannah’s representations
that may ultimately be correct, but your job is to review the determination that Mr. Artuso made.
And parenthetically, I would tell you that the group that is opposing the approval that the town board
made, I guess within the last 30 days, commenced an action in article 78 that the town board acted
essentially arbitrary and capriciously with the respect to the determinations that’s made significantly
based on many of the reason that Mr. Hannah set forth. So, that’s as I see this in terms of setting the
table.
As a threshold matter which is important here typically and I guess it’s not so typical as I said we’ ve
done this at least one other time and it may go back before my time you will see this closer in time
to the town board who ultimately might make a determinative decision. You...you’d hear this board
this type of appeal would be brought before this board before that time because the statute requires
that when sitting in this capacity and I'll read to you the statute which is town law 267-4 says in
pertinent part of jurisdiction of the board of appeals shall be appellate only and shall be limited to in
this case hearing deciding appeals from any reviewing or from reviewing an order requirement
decision, interpretation or determination made by the administrative official charge with the
enforcement of any ordinance or local law adopted pursuant to this article. Such appeal may be taken
by any person who agreed which Mr. Hannah presents.
So, that requirement essentially is that this board needs to be placed on notice of this circumstance
within 60 days after that determination has been made in this case by Mr. Artuso. There is some
ambiguity in so much as J believe the statute talks about a filing of Mr. Artuso’s decision that shall
be filed in the office of such administrative official within five days from which from the day which
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it is rendered shall be a public record. Well, we know as a practical matter that Mr. Artuso makes
decisions similar to this on a regular basis and there’s no official order per se, but often times there’s
emails or other documentation that the determination was made. In this case, we know at the very
least that there was a resolution of the Webster Town Board on or about July 17" , 2025 about 11
months ago, wherein that resolution contained whereas pursuant to the Webster Town Code, an
industrial use permit is required for any use within an IN-Industrial district. So, the town board was
acting, we know, at that time, based upon an act by Mr. Artuso, limiting his recommendation as to
what they needed to do, just an issuance or review of the industrial permit as opposed to the special
use permit or both as might be essentially. Mr. Hannah, amongst other things, argues that is the
missing link here and the fact that that was not made a requirement caused the cascading again the
applicant’s opinion that all of these things that weren’t reviewed that should have been reviewed that
followed and again I’m not commenting or passing judgement as to the accuracy of that or not.
So, not with standing that I think this board first before it gets into the merits and we can talk and
the board can ask questions if you wish about the language and I think it was... 155.6 that talks about
requirements of a special use permit for residential districts which as we know this is not a residential
district. But first I think the board should make a determination as to whether this application as an
appeal of Mr. Artuso’s decision is timely before you to consider. If you determine that it’s not, it
would be my recommendation that you need to go no further. If you find that it is, then obviously
the next step would be to get into the merits of Mr. Hannah’s argument as to whether or not Mr.
Artuso’s decision not to bring that to the attention of the town board. We can obviously get into that,
but I want to say that it is not this board’s job to correct actions taken by the town board or the
planning board. It is really narrowly on that decision that Mr. Artuso made. But first off , is it timely
or is it not timely?
Councilor, would you mind very much if I address that very briefly? As I think you
suggested at the outset, I think as Mr. DeMarco suggested at the very outset of his remarks there was
no official pronouncement from Mr. Artuso as to the type of permits that were going to be required
and in fact after the town board action that Mr. DeMarco described as having occurred in July. There
was still a letter from Montante indicating that they were seeking they finally submitted the
application which had been acted on you know without having received it. And when the application
was submitted from Montante specifically said we are seeking and we need industrial use and special
use permits. They would not have said that if the issue had been decided as is being suggested, it
only became public, the industrial use permit component only became public on April 1* when Mr.
Artuso wrote a letter to the various town board members and copied in a number of the neighborhood
residents saying that only an industrial permit was going to be required and here’s why. That’s when
the clock started running. You start the clock running at the latest time and that’s when the clock
started running and the appeal to this board was filed within 60 days of that letter.
I don’t disagree with the facts that Mr. Hanna has laid out. I may disagree with
respect to his interpretation as to whether or not something being made public is what the statute
requires. The statute addresses that it should be a public record, and I think as a matter of practice
probably in most if not all towns that there is some type of communication made by a public official
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whether by email or otherwise because you can imagine the number of decisions that are being made
there wouldn’t be formal orders filed with the Webster Town Clerk in each and every instance. And
that’s why I am suggesting to you that we know that the determination was made part of the public
record in the July 2025 resolution. But again, ultimately, this board has to make a decision here
whether in light of the requirements that is in your mind sufficient to trigger the 60-day clock and
whether that 60-day clock has run. So, go ahead.
I’m going to just try and summarize everything I’ve heard. So, as of right now the I
guess the applicant for the zoning interpretation there is an article 78 at this point which has been
filed. I’m assuming that will be heard regardless of anything that this board does at that point. If I
misspeak at any point Mr. DeMarco, please stop me. This board has the opportunity to make a
determination if this zoning interpretation is timely based on when the application was submitted
based on correspondence that had occurred. We could forego that and move forward with the zoning
interpretation as itself if deem it not timely. We could stop there. Is that...did I summarize that in...
I think that is generally accurate.
Okay. I guess questions from....
Can I please, Mr. Hannah, that April 1* date that you’ ve used to say that it was made
quote public close quote, what document is that? OR do we have that document?
I thought I had submitted it with a....Yeah, it’s an email from...
Yeah, okay. From Mr. Artuso to the town supervisor and the rest of the board
members.
That is correct and some members of the public. And that’s the first I respectfully
submit. That’s the first notice that the public every had. You can’t file an ap[peal if you don’t know
what happened. And that’s the first announcement to the public that this was going to be processed
under an industrial use permit only.
Not wish standing that, you would agree as a stipulated fact, if you will, that the
portion that I read relative to the July 2025 resolution that that is as I stated.
I have no reason to dispute that. I don’t know. Personal knowledge.
Yep.
Questions from the board?
Yes, Mr. Demarco, would the....I just want to make sure in my mind, would the
published minutes of the town board count as notification?
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You mean above and beyond the resolution that was filed? I’m not...you know, I
don’t know where do our minutes go?
They’re on the web.
So, they’re available to the public. I would think so.
So, | mean that the fact that they didn’t say hey look at this, we’ve approved or
decided this was whatever that it’s not necessary published, but it is made public.
I think that would be considered to be the public record.
Okay.
Questions from the board?
I actually have
2. The first one is given the nature, and I'll call it the importance of
the request that’s being made of this board. All right, first it’s a statement. I guess I'll voice my
frustration that the additional! information that we received from the applicant tonight was the first
time we saw it, which doesn’t give us any time to review it. So, I'll just note that. But if this matter
is currently moving forward with the article 78 proceeding, should this board act at all until the
matter is currently in litigation or are they two separate entities?
I guess you know whether they’re separate or not, the fact that there is a pending
article 78 dos does not affect our ability to make this determination.
Okay.
Our determination will have no effect on the article
78. John DeMarco: I guess that’s up to Mr. Hanna whether it does, or it doesn’t .
To be honest, I’m confused about what our role is exactly.
So, as Mr. Hannah I| think wanted us to get our bearings because it is true, we don’t
play this role very often, but it is a core responsibility of the zoning board to act as a review board
for the actions of in this case, Mr. Artuso. So, if he determined that something should or should not
come before this board or perhaps in this instance whether he did not bring something to the attention
of the town board. And so, this board’s being asked to review what it was that he did and make a
determination as to whether or not he acted appropriately given the nature of the application. And I
essentially indicated to the board there’s....it’s a two-step process. As in many things legally, the
application has to be timely. It can’t be stale. It can’t be prohibited by a statute of limitation or like
statute. And in this case, there is a colorable claim that it might be or that it is. There’s some
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ambiguity in the statue as to timeliness so I’m bringing those to your attention to first decide whether
it’s timely or not. If you determine that it is timely, than you should consider Mr. Hannah’s
arguments and take a look at the law that’s relevant to those arguments and make a decision as to
whether you think that there was an error by Mr. Artuso.
So, I’m going to try and give an example. A little while ago, this board was to make
an interpretation on what is considered a front yard. When you have a property, I think was it last
month before the property had roads on three sides, which one of those are a front yard or the front
yard proper for setbacks, front doors, things like that nature. So that’s one of the things we’ re being
asked to do is interpret use whether guess whether a special use permit was required. I don’t think
there’s any argument that this is an industrial area but it’s more of whether a special use permit was
required. That’s my understanding. Okay.
What happens if it’s determined by this board that a special use permit should have
been required?
Then the board’s going to have to go back and revisit it.
The town board and the planning board?
No.
But it doesn’t kill the project it just postpones it.
Correct.
It could kill it. I mean, the developer might say it’s to much time gone by. I mean
that is something that could happen, but it doesn’t necessarily kill it. Okay, thank you.
Whether or not Josh was correct in his assessment, the fact that we’re....... I mean
the way I look at it, not being an attorney, there’s a lot of technical points that Mr. Hannah has laid
out listed his cascade of errors. So, whether Josh was or not, if it wasn’t timely, it doesn’t make a
difference.
Well, I understand the question. Ultimately in the course of the article 78, a court
could determine that the town board acted without the requisite authority and that the court sends it
back to the town to consider something that it overlooked. And that ultimately may or may not
change the decision as to whether or not the town board issues those permits. Obviously, Mr. Hannah
is hoping that that’s the case so that they feel that a more complete picture will end up stopping the
project. It’s to be determined if in fact they believe there is an error made or this board determines
that there was an error made.
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So, if this matter were discussed in the July 2025 town board meeting, is it possible
for us to pull up those minutes and read that resolution into the record so that we can see what was
exactly said? That’s not information that I would normally...
If this board feels that it does not have sufficient information this evening to make a
determination, and you indicated such then you can take steps to make sure that you have what you
need assuming it exists.
I think we need to see those minutes. Whether we review them now or review them,
probably reviewing them in detail would make more sense, but that it is published on the town
website, but we would certainly need time to review
Okay and obviously, ....
We can take a pause and do it now or...
Well, that should come through as a motion if that’s what the majority of....
Well, yeah. So, I guess and Corrine I was actually thinking the same thing, right?
Scanning it quickly, but
Well, it’s not even that, right? I think to your earlier point, the documentation that
was provided to us 5 minutes for me, 5 minutes before we started this meeting, you know, I
understand that there’s the email from April 1°, 2026. I have no idea if there’s any previous
documentation, so I can’t sit here and say that there was.
Well, I can tell you that I had asked, and I don’t know how comprehensive or
complete, but I wanted to determine whether there was emails from the department. Again, I’m not
saying that an email from Josh is dispositive of the notification issue, but I have not yet been provided
an email essentially on topic prior to the resolution of the town board.
Well, backing bot Mr. Short and Mrs. Volo, I'd like more time to go through the
resolution because I think we’re kind of hanging it on a very technical issue. Whether or not that
was the clock started then last July or this past April makes a big difference.
And I’m glad that you all had indicated. I thought maybe I was missing the April 1
email. So, now I know it just arrived. So, look I can’t quarrel with that. It’s potentially, you know,
something that’s going to make your decision a little bit clearer.
So, | guess before we table it, I guess my other question I have while we’re sitting
here, right, I mean, so that’s issue one, right? And we can make a determination on whether it was
timely or not. The other issue at hand and it’s kind of the actual issue is the interpretation of the
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zoning...you know, the zoning interpretation as well. You know if we’ ve determined again and Mr.
DeMarco If I mis-speak, please correct me. But if we’ ve determine that we...if it wasn’t. That this
isn’t timely, we could stop there, not make a determination on the zoning interpretation. However,
we could theoretically skip that, still make a determination on the interpretation if we wanted to.
Correct.
So, I guess I have questions for the board regarding the zoning interpretation. Has
the board had an opportunity to read through and understand Mr. Hannah’s take on it? I’ve read it
last month. [ve re-read it this month. I do get hung up on, you know is it 150-6 where it says a
special use permit is required for residential areas. I get hung up on the fact that when you’re talking
industrial areas, industrial areas do allow I think it’s energy generation if I remember correctly. I’m
looking for it right now. Public utilities, right. So, I guess. I’m and I don’t know is I mean all the
solar fields that are out there when they’re now tied into the grid, is that technically a utility? So,
those are questions that I have that I’ve raised for myself, and I don’t know if anybody from this
board has had kind of similar or not.
(NOT SITTING CLOSE ENOUGH TO MIC OR FACING FORWARD) | agree
with you on that. It’s still interpretation.
Sure, that is what this board is for, right?
(NOT SITTING CLOSE ENOUGH TO MIC OR FACING FORWARD) I’m saying
it would be much easier if it were cut and dry. But my own opinion is let’s wait. I’d like to see us
wait so this way we don’t have to necessarily go through an entire debate on how we interpret it
unless we really have to. My other question is we still going to open whether we if we decide to
table it, we still need to open up to the public for comments, don’t we?
I don’t think so on the appeal review. There’s a different kind of attribution.
(NOT SITTING CLOSE ENOUGH TO MIC OR FACING FORWARD) There’s a
lot of people here. I didn’t want them to necessarily...
But it’s my understanding for an interpretation, its not night. We don’t have to.
Well, they need to know that.
Understood. So, I guess I’m going to ask the board before we put it up for a vote, do
we want to table this matter? I mean, is that kind of what I’m hearing.
I say yes.
Is it Erika or Corrine, are we able to I mean, those minutes, are you able to I mean,
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Pl look for them on the web, but is it possible to those sent out to us?
Yes, because they’ re right on-line.
So, Mr. Hannah, at this point, we’re going to make...I’ll make a motion that we’re
going to table this matter until the July meeting. You know, again, you provided some additional
information today which I know me personally, I didn’t get to see that. I probably would have asked
for some of this additional information earlier.
I might add, it’s actually good information to have. Really good job from the few
minutes I had to review it of presenting your case and what you saw as pertinent points. And I’m
going to par what other people have said, it just unfortunate that we didn’t have a chance to digest it
versus just reading through really quickly before.
Is there any additional information that would be helpful to the board that I could
provide?
I guess I would ask if we do table this to the July meeting, if there’s any additional
information that you have for the board, please give us at least a week before the meeting to
preferably two, but at least one to review it. Just so that we don’t do the applicant a disservice as
well.
RESOLUTION 26-0017 Michael Short made a motion to TABLE
APPLICATION TO THE JULY 14, 2026
Chris
Centola.
VOTE:
Mr. Short AYE
Mrs. Volo AYE
Mr. Spampinato ABSENT
Mr. Accorso AYE
Mrs. Damelio AYE
Mr. Centola AYE
Before we proceed, can the board members just speak closely to the microphone,
please. Thank you.
Located at 101 Midnight Trail. Applicant Joe Herbst is requesting an
AREA VARIANCE to allow a front setback of 44 ft where 75 ft is required, and to allow the
accessory building to be located nearer to the front property line associated with the construction of
a 480 SF pole barn on a 5.35-acre parcel having SBL #064.02-1-11.111 located in an LL Large-Lot
Single-Family Residential District under Section 350-13 and 350-36 of the Code of the Town of
Webster.
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Appearing before the board was Joe Herbst. I am pretty sure you all have the maps or have gotten
the package. This lot lends itself to a unique situation being over 1,000 feet off the road and the way
the access to the log cabin is and the orientation of the cabin turned sideways renders this the front
yard. Hence the reason for the variance. It’s pretty much straight forward. It’s a 20 x 24 auxiliary
building pole barn construction.
Questions from the board?
So, it’s going to be on the side of where the neighbor’s house is, closest to the
neighbor’s house or on the other side of the...
When you go back in there, the driveway comes in off of Shoemaker Oaks West and
it'll be on the south side of the driveway. This is not my property. I’m actually acting on behalf of
a friend of mine. He’s in the military and he’s the last two months he’s been on four continents. He’s
not in town very often. So, I was helping him out to do this for him,
I think there was a letter in there giving you authority to act on his behalf, right?
That’s correct.
I thought I saw that.
As well as a letter from neighbors David and Dere on the southside there.
Did you say Fort Collins or Four continent?
Continents.
So why the location that was selected?
It’s the first point of access when you come into the driveway. If you look at the layout
of the map, it is pretty wooded. It’s mostly pine like 80 to 90 foot pines. This is already just a clear
field where they used to have horses and the topography once you get in the woods, topography
drops about 15 feet. It’s the same elevation on the north side of the building but drops about 15 feet
on the south side and the whole thing is a hill. This lends itself to no cutting of any forest. It’s the
easiest access. It’s still 200 feet from the log cabin. So, as you come in and as I park vehicles or
what not it’s still a good walk to get to the cabin but lends itself to the most common sense area.
So, what I ultimately... you don’t have to cut any trees in the location.
Correct. It’s a simple spot to put it.
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Yes. Understood. Got it, okay. Other questions from the board.
No, I was just verifying the letter of approval we have is actually from the house that’s
located closest to it. The house that’ located at 100 David Brown.
Correct.
Sorry, the 10 it’s one identified as 101, correct?
101 is where the pole barn is going and then 100 is the closest neighbor.......
BOTH BOARD MEMBERS SPEAKING AT THE SAME TIME
Which is....?'m...?m familiar with that area having wandered those woods a lot with
young men. Boy Scouts... LAUGHTER
Everything you say is public, you do know that.
Anyway, the property does slop down as you head northward in the property. So, the
further south you are within that parcel once you get off of the flag, more likely you are to find a flat
section. And it is an incredibly densely wooded piece of property. With this being the clearing
where the horse stable was or the horse pad at some point and time. So, it does the least damage to
the property to the woods and it still...there’s enough woods between the neighboring property in
this location that it truly isn’t really going to be noticed.
I think that deer are going to be more disrupted than that neighbors.
Yes. Other questions from the board. I would like to open it up to the public if
anybody wants to speak for or against the project? Seeing none, I will bring it back to the board.
questions from the board?
Will there be siding on the barn?
Yes, it’l] be metal steel and there’s color....I did submit color samples with it. It’s tan
and brown, earthtones. [t’s natural.
RESOLUTION 26-0018 Michael Short made a motion TYPE II
John
Accorso.
VOTE:
Mr. Short AYE
Mrs. Volo AYE
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Mr. Spampinato ABSENT
Mr, Accorso AYE
Mrs. Damelio AYE
Mr. Centola AYE
(CORRINE VOLO)
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This request is not out of character in the neighborhood: Not out of character with the
neighborhood in that a lot of those lots back there have accessory structures wither along
Shoemaker or as you go down a couple of the properties that back up to Midnight Trail or
are on Midnight Trail.
There will not be a detriment created to nearby properties: The accessory structure will not
be a detriment to any nearby properties. It should be noted for the record that the closest
property did submit a letter that they are in favor. They’re not opposed to having this
building be built.
The benefit is not achievable by any other method: It is achievable by any other method.
It’s a five plus acre parcel. However, it’s the least detrimental to the land by putting it in
this particular application.
It’s a flag lot and what I would consider the front of the
house actually faces the back of the property. So, you could even almost call it the rear lot
just based on house location.
There are no adverse physical or environmental impacts to the site or neighborhood:
It’s really not self-created. That lot has been back there,
that property has been back there for as long as I lived in Webster. Just with different
ownership at this point and time.
This is not an undesirable change: It will give the homeowner an opportunity to store their
property and will be unknown to anyone other than the immediate neighbor and the
homeowner.
And I'd just like to add, I mean there’s limited opportunities due to the topography
of the site to be able to place the pole barn as well.
RESOLUTION 26-0019 Corrine Volo made a motion for AREA
Located at 101 Midnight Trail.
Applicant Joe Herbst is requesting an AREA
VARIANCE to allow a front setback of 44ft
where 75ft is required, and to allow the
accessory building to be located nearer to the
front property line associated with the
construction of a 480 SF pole barn on a 5.35-
acre parcel having SBL #064.02-1-11.111
located in an LL Large-Lot Single-Family
Residential District under Section 350-13 and
350-36 of the Code of the Town of Webster of
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which was seconded by Michael Short.
CONDITIONS:
e The applicant must obtain all necessary governmental permits, including a Town
Building Permit.
e That one-year significant construction shall expire June 9, 2027
VOTE:
Mr. Short AYE
Mrs. Volo AYE
Mr. Spampinato ABSENT
Mr. Accorso AYE
Mrs. Damelio AYE
Mr. Centola AYE
Located at 514 Klem Road. Applicant Michael Meyer is requesting AREA
VARIANCES to allow a side setback of 13.3ft where 15ft is required in association with the
construction of a new 720 SF attached two-car garage on a 0.26-acre parcel having SBL# 063.15-
1-84 located in the R-3 Single Family Residential District under Section 350-12 of the Code of the
Town of Webster.
Appearing before the board was Michael Meyer. (DID NOT STATE HIS NAME) vehicles. I’d
like to build the garage, a little bit bigger, 24 x
30. We do have snowblower and all the other
stuff that we have to put in the garage also. I did give you guys a packet about all the neighbors
and I had them sign it and they stated that everything was okay and I would just like to get the
variance of a few feet.
Questions from the board? The intent for the look, I’m assuming its going to
match the house.
Yes
Single story?
Single story.
Okay, I’m going to open it up to public comment. Does anybody want to speak
for or against this project? No, bring it back to the board.
RESOLUTION 26-0020 Michael Short made a motion TYPE II
Chris
Centola.
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VOTE:
Mr. Short AYE
Mrs. Volo AYE
Mr. Spampinato ABSENT
Mr. Accorso AYE
Mrs. Damelio AYE
Mr. Centola AYE
(CHRIS CENTOLA)
The application as proposed would not have any impact to the essential character of the
neighborhood as they’re extending the garage. There is really no other spot on the property to
expand the garage except on that side. The variance is not significant. The property line is
somewhat wooded ! will say with the shrubs and trees. By approving this there’d be no physical
or environmental conditions that will be negatively impact. And although it is self-created, there’s
really no other choice for them to expand the garage without moving it entirely in two different
spots. So, in that respect, it is not entirely self-created.
Anybody else want to add anything else to it?
It is not excessive in size. It’s a two-car garage. It’s just enough to make it a two-
car garage and then going in a little bit deeper.
And I think the neighbors across the street, most of them have two-car garages.
Yes, there are a lot of two-car garages around.
1. This request is not out of character in the neighborhood:
2. There will not be a detriment created to nearby properties:
3. The benefit is not achievable by any other method:
4. This request is not substantial:
5. There are no adverse physical or environmental impacts to the site or neighborhood:
6. The difficulty is not self-created:
7. This is not an undesirable change:
RESOLUTION 26-0021 Michael Short made a motion for AREA
Located at 514 Klem Road.
Applicant Michael Meyer is requesting
AREA VARIANCES to allow a side setback
of 13.3ft where 15ft is required in association
with the construction of a new 720 SF
attached two-car garage on a 0.26-acre parcel
having SBL# 063.15-1-84 located in the R-3
Single Family Residential District under
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Section 350-12 of the Code of the Town of
Webster of which was seconded by: Chris
Centola.
CONDITIONS:
e The applicant must obtain all necessary governmental permits, including a Town
Building Permit.
e That one-year significant construction shall expire June 9, 2027
VOTE:
Mr. Short AYE
Mrs. Volo AYE
Mr. Spampinato ABSENT
Mr. Accorso AYE
Mrs. Damelio AYE
Mr. Centola AYE
Located at 423, 425 and 429 Ridge Road and 1036 and 1036A
Bay Road. Applicant Scott Measday is requesting AREA VARIANCES for the following listed
below in association with a proposed re-subdivision (lot line adjustments) of 5-single-family
residential lots into 4-single-family residential lots totaling 2.5-acres having SBL #s 078.18-2-9,
078,18-2-10.2, 078.18-2-10.1, 078.18-2-11.11 and 078.18-2-11.2 located in the R-3 Single Family
Residential District under Section 350-12 and 350-36 of the Code of the Town of Webster.
Lot 1:
a. Existing Front Setback of 22.3’ & 22.5’ where 40’ is required
b. Proposed Side Setback of 8.0” or 55.6’ where 15” is required
c. Proposed Rear Setback of 8.0” or 55.6’ where 50’ is required
d. Proposed Area of 10,919 SF where 22,000 SF is required
Lot 2:
Existing Front Setback of 9.8’ where 50” is required
Proposed Side Setback of 12.0’ where 15” is required
Proposed Side Setback of 7.5’ where 15' is required
Proposed Area of 12,647 SF where 22,000 SF is required
Proposed Lot Frontage of 92.22’ where 100.00” is required
3:
a. House - Existing Front Setback of 13.1’ where 50’ is required
b. House - Proposed Rear Setback of 45.4’ where 50” is required
c. Barn — Proposed Rear Setback of 8.0’ where 50' is required
d. Proposed Area of 10,624 SF where 22,000 SF is required
€, Proposed Lot Frontage of 79.42’ where 100.00’ is required
Lot 4:
a. Existing Front Setback of 27.4’ where 60’ is required
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Existing Rear Setback of 10.4’ where 50’ is required
Proposed Side Setback of 8.2’ where 15’ is required
Existing Rear Setback of 8.3’ where 50” is required
2 Residences (Main & Guest) where only 1 is permitted
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Appearing before the board was Tom Sutherland and I’m here covering for Walt Baker tonight
and here with me is Scott Measday, who is the licensed surveyor for the project. He is very
familiar with this property. And we are representing the owner, James and Lou and they own
all five parcels on this corner lot totaling roughly 2.4 acres.
Current uses on this property include the mechanic shop on the corner of Bay and Ridge as weil
as multiple residential homes and storage barns. The three buildings on Ridge Road are serviced
by public utilities including sewer, water, electric, and gas. While the tow properties along Bay
Road, they each have their own private septic system and all other utilities are public such as
water, electric, and gas. So, while this may appear as a large subdivision, it’s really just fixing
some lot lines. So, currently there’s some lot lines that go through existing buildings. And we’re
here tonight to kind of dedicate each building to it’s own lot.
So, we did receive preliminary planning board approval last week, and some of their concerns
were about the drainage on the southern lot or the neighbor to the south. So, we added in a 15
inch culvert to try and collect that water and drain water into he creek. So, the neighbor to the
south is very happy now that that dried up his lawn. Another one would be another concern they
had was the power from the lot three barn, the frame barn provided electricity to the metal barn
on lot four. So that connection has been removed. So, there’s no power going to that metal barn
on lot proposed lot 4 now. And the last concern that they had was the septic tank on the guest
house for the proposed lot 4 which would be 1036A. We went out there and we looked at the
septic, and it was very old. It was an old steel tank. So, we replaced that with concrete and
made sure that the leech field worked and it was good. So, we’re here requesting a variety of
variances, but we are here to improve pre-existing non-conforming to make it a little bit less
non-conformity.
Can you go back to the plan real quick because I was trying to study. I’m
familiar with the location and trying to understand, the red lines are what? The existing property
lines?
The red lines are the existing.
Okay what are the proposed property lines then.
The proposed are the thicker black lines so yeah, where that mouse is. So, lot
4 is the larger lot and then there’s three lots to the north.
So, is the metal barn on its own separate lot?
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The metal barn is with lot 4 and that lot consists of the one story building and
1036 Bay Road as well as the black and metal garage and 1036A. 1036A is a guest house. So,
we initially were going to put 1036A on its own lot. But the utilities for the house are in the
basement of 1036. So, the water meter and gas meter in the basement of 1036 and that’s what
we decided with the planning board that it would be better to keep it all on the same lot.
Okay, so this is where | struggled. I see the red lines really well. You said the
really thick other lines. I’m not...I’m starting to see them, but I’m struggling seeing them.
They are not very visible on the PDF on the plan.
I was looking at the plan as well.
(NOT SPEAKING LOUD ENOUGH) I agree there’s not a lot of differentiation
between the driveway and the property line. But the paper copy, I believe it is much clearer.
I remember looking at this and, but I had the same question. What’s red versus
the black? But I got it now. Okay.
Does this version help you see better?
It does, thank you.
So, Scott tried his best to keep the proper distances of 15 feet side setbacks,
but some buildings here only have 15 feet in separation between them . We believe that this is
the best configuration.
So, is the...1 mean, this is all one property now, correct?
Right now, it’s five different lots. So, you can see the red...some of the red
lines will go through the existing buildings.
So, I guess I’m going to summarize because this collection of properties was
recently sold and within that collection of properties, I have lot lines going through buildings
and so therefore some buildings were located on two lots as opposed to having each building
have its own lot. So, there’s no additional structures being added to this.
There is no proposed structure.
All we’re doing is neatening up the lot lines so that each building is contained
within a single lot and the lot lines are spaced as best they can apply to what are the preferred
setbacks or the code required setbacks to balance it so that should you need to sell one again,
you actually can because it’s legal and appropriate.
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That’s a very good explanation of it.
Is there access to each lot without some crossings from the joining lots.
Yes, each lot has it’s own access and utilities. So, utilities or access do not
cross through another lot other than the existing gravel, old gravel driveway. But that’s not
needed to access the lot
You’re saying that one where the cursor remains of gravel driveway.
Yes
So, the two story frame that come off of Ridge. The two and half story frame
off of Ridge one story block you can get from Ridge or Bay and then the one story block
including the metal barn including the block and metal garage and the one story frame all of
those access off of Bay through that large...
Correct.
That lot has two road accesses.
Correct.
The metal barn you said that is no longer getting power from the frame barn?
Correct.
Where’s it getting power from?
There is no power right now.
Okay got it. One story frame 1031 uh, 1036A the leech field you guys did a perk
test with it or...
So that is what we replaced septic tank. So that had the old steel in the tank...
Michael! Short: I though you indicated that you checked the leech field and it was working. I
was curious how you check the leech field.
Just by flushing it, making sure that it drains properly. B. Chamberlain came
out and did the septic system.
Are we now putting two houses on one lot? That lot 4, the big one. Because
before it looked like with the red line, although the red lines do have to move... have no
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questions. There’s no doubt about that. But it now looks like the one story frame and the one
story block. I’m assuming that is a house, the one story block ?
Yeah, so it’s 1038 one story frame is a guest house for 1036.
Now we have two houses on one lot.
And you were saying that the reason that occurred is because all utilities are
coming through 1036 to go to 1036A.
The gas meter and water meter are in the basement of 1036 for 1036A.
Actually, the water meter is shared. There is only a single water meter that feeds both. The gas
meters are separate. The electric meters are separate, but they are contained in the basement off
the forward house.
That is one of their requests to allow two residents is one the same lot.
Who issued the permits to begin with? LAUGHTER
I was going to say, it’s been there a long time.
I well and granted they were all sold as one collective sale, but how did this...how
did this sale ever go through with so many things not in compliance with town code.
It is a very unique 5 lots.
Any questions from the board before I open it up to the public? Does anybody
want to speak for or against this application. Please come on up. None, I will bring it back to
the board.
(NOT SPEAKING LOUD ENOUGH) I think it’s a good design with the intent
of potentially selling each structure, which would have been even harder if you did it
individually. Based on the existing lot lines so I think, it’s....they did a good job.
RESOLUTION 26-0022 Michael Short made a motion TYPE II
Corrine
Volo.
VOTE:
Mr. Short AYE
Mrs. Volo AYE
Mr. Spampinato ABSENT
Mr. Accorso AYE
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Mrs. Damelio AYE
Mr. Centola AYE
Before you do the findings, do you want me to keep this up there?
Yes
(CHRIS CENTOLA)
Overall, the action will not impact the essential character of the neighborhood as there are lot lines
and no one will even know where they exist. While there might have been other alternates
considered, this is probably the best solution to make sure that each building at least each
well,..each building I will say has at least a noticeable and minimal setback for a lot. The variances
requested are not substantial, especially when you consider that there are existing buildings going
over multiple outlines and there won’t be any potential impacts on drainage, traffic, dust, or noise
or public services. And the applicant has already stated that they’ ve added a culvert to improve
drainage for one of the lots. The application is not self-created. It’s been there for a while and
they’re doing the best job they can to make them as compliant as possible. With that in mind,
they...okay, that should do it. Sorry. We can do the setbacks under the motion.
] mean at the end of the day, it’s trying to correct decades of wrong, right is
ultimately what this is trying to do. Anybody else what to add anything to the findings?
This request is not out of character in the neighborhood:
There will not be a detriment created to nearby properties:
The benefit is not achievable by any other method:
This request is not substantial:
There are no adverse physical or environmental impacts to the site or neighborhood:
It self- created, but it’s not an oversized addition.
This is not an undesirable change: It is not an undesirable change.
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RESOLUTION 26-0023 Michael Short made a motion for AREA
Located at 423, 425 and 429
Ridge Road and 1036 and 1036A Bay Road.
Applicant Scott Measday is requesting AREA
VARIANCES for the following listed below
in association with a proposed re-subdivision
(lot line adjustments) of 5-single-family
residential lots into 4-single-family residential
lots totaling 2.5-acres having SBL #s 078. 18-
2-9, 078.18-2-10.2, 078.18-2-10.1, 078.18-2-
11.11 and 078.18-2-11.2 located in the R-3
Single Family Residential District under
Section 350-12 and 350-36 of the Code of the
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Town of Webster which was seconded by
Chris Centola.
Lot 1:
e. Existing Front Setback of 22.3’ & 22.5’ where 40” is required
f. Proposed Side Setback of 8.0’ or 55.6’ where 15’ is required
g. . Proposed Rear Setback of 8.0° or 55.6’ where 50” is required
h. Proposed Area of 10,919 SF where 22,000 SF is required
Lot 2:
f. House - Existing Front Setback of 9.8’ where 50’ is required
g. House - Proposed Side Setback of 12.0° where 15” is required
h. Garage — Proposed Side Setback of 7.5’ where 15' is required
i. Proposed Area of 12,647 SF where 22,000 SF is required
j. Proposed Lot Frontage of 92.22’ where 100.00’ is required
Lot 3:
Existing Front Setback of 13.1’ where 50° is required
Proposed Rear Setback of 45.4” where 50” is required
Proposed Rear Setback of 8.0’ where 50° is required
Proposed Area of 10,624 SF where 22,000 SF is required
Proposed Lot Frontage of 79.42’ where 100.00’ is required
4:
Existing Front Setback of 27.4’ where 60’ is required
Existing Rear Setback of 10.4’ where 50’ is required
Garage ~ Proposed Side Setback of 8.2’ where 15” is required
Existing Rear Setback of 8.3’ where 50’ is required
2 Residences (Main & Guest) where only 1 is permitted
of which was seconded by Corrine Volo.
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You have you variance and there are other things that you have to go through to
get this finalized.
Yes, we’ ll be at the planning board meeting next week for final approval next
month.
CONDITIONS:
e The applicant must obtain all necessary governmental permits, including a Town
Building Permit.
e That one-year significant construction shall expire June 9, 2027
VOTE:
Mr. Short AYE
Mrs. Volo AYE
Mr. Spampinato ABSENT
Mr. Accorso AYE
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Mrs. Damelio AYE
Mr. Centola AYE
Located at 1640 Lake Road. Applicant Michael Seversky of Triple
Family Asset Group LLC is requesting an AREA VARIANCE to allow a minimum lot width for
(LOT 1) of 162.45’ and a minimum lot width for (LOT 2) of 177.45’ where 250’ is required in
association with the subdivision of an 8.3-acre parcel having SBL #036.04-1-21 located in an LL
Large-Lot Single-Family Residential District under Section 350-13 of the Code of the Town of
Webster.
Appearing before the board was Bryan White with McMahon LaRue Associates. I’m here
tonight representing Michael Seversky of Triple Family Asset Group LLC who’s the applicant
of this application. We are proposing a two lot subdivision located at 1640 Lake Road. For
context, the property is approximately a tenth of a mile east of Salt Road between the north edge
of Lake Road and Lake Ontario. With our proposed subdivision, again it’s a two parcel
subdivision. Along this area will require two area variance for minimum lot width. By code, it
stipulates that the minimum lot width should be 250 feet.
For lot one, we’re proposing a lot width of approximately 162 feet and change. And for lot two,
we’ re proposing a lot width of approximately 177 feet. The exact dimensions are noted in our
application. For additional context, the applicant is proposing to purchase lot one and the
applicant also resides along the westerly side of this property. The owner of 1640 Lake Road
is currently selling the property and with that arises the opportunity for the applicant to acquire
this land east of where he currently resides. The parcels conform with the remaining
dimensional lot requirements. Minimum lot acreage of 3 acres. We meet that. We’re
requesting area variances for lot width.
It’s our opinion that this configuration is very consistent with the adjoining properties. It almost
stands out as it is today. It’s one of the last ones that hasn’t been subdivided historically. It’s
also noteworthy that the three parcels east of our subdivision were recently granted area
variances for lot width in August of 2022. So, they had similar same variance request similar
distances that were previously approved. The proposed lot line falls just north of a natural low-
lying area. So, it is a natural boundary. We’ ve chosen the lot width for lot one as it aligns with
an existing access easement that runs north and south along an existing driveway servicing all
these properties.
So, we feel that it’s a natural location as we’ve drawn it here tonight. Be happy to answer any
questions you have or provide additional clarification at your direction.
So, just clarification, current lot, current lot width without the subdivision does
not meet the code, correct?
Yes. The exact existing lot width as it is today 181 feet on all
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Yep. Understood. So...
Now I will note the large lot denomination, or numeration was added to the code,
I’m going to say approximately 30 years ago. This property was this property long before large
lot existed. So, the width was probably appropriate at that time.
So, the applicant to the west, uh the house...the house kind of in the middle
there, right?
1636
And it’s where the cursor is. Is that correct?
Nope. It’s just south of there. Are you referencing the applicant’s location?
I think you said the applicant is purchasing lot....
The applicant is purchasing lot one and resides at 1636 Lake Road, which is...
Got it.
Sharing the common line west of lot one.
Okay, so the applicant does not own the lot to the east of them.
That’s correct.
Okay.
So, we have approval for the subject property at 1640 Lake Road . The applicant
is not the owner of 1640 currently. He has, you know, arrangements. ...
Has arrangement to purchase lot one. He has arrangements to act in that owners
behalf to do the subdivision so he can purchase lot one.
That is correct.
Do we need a proof of the purchase offer?
We provided an owner authorization from the current land authorization. That’s
helpful Erika. I do have a similar hard copy of what Erika is depicting currently if that’s useful
to anyone from the board.
Can you clarify one thing for me, please? You’re saying that the buyer, the
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applicant, is to the west of the subject parcel. Doesn’t that mean that in order to connect the
two parcels, not that he’s going to want to connect them necessarily, but he’s got to cross the
driveway for the remaining parcel to go to the back? That’s the way it looks on the map.
Yes. So, there is an access easement existing over the driveway that’s there today.
The intent is to have a standalone new parcel know as lot one which would require the area
variance for lot width.
But who’s...is that an intent then to combine it with his existing property?
That’s correct.
Okay, thank you.
You said you provided the authorization from the current property owner, You
have that, Erika? Okay, that’s fine. We have it. That’s all the questions I have. Any other
questions from the board? I will open it up to the public. Anyone want to speak for or against
this? No. . Any other questions from the board?
RESOLUTION 26-0024 Michael Short made a motion TYPE II
Chris
Centola.
VOTE:
Mr. Short AYE
Mrs. Volo AYE
Mr. Spampinato ABSENT
Mr. Accorso AYE
Mrs. Damelio AYE
Mr. Centola AYE
(CORRINE VOLO)
1. This request is not out of character in the neighborhood: There are several parcels both to
the east and west of this that have done similar subdivisions. They’re all originally
relatively narrow, like lest that 200 feet wide and deep going from Lake Road all the way
to the lake.
2. There will not be a detriment created to nearby properties: The change is not going to create
a detriment to nearby properties. The only property that this would really impact is the
property to the west which is the purchaser of the lot one.
3. The benefit is not achievable by any other method: The benefit really cannot be achieved
by any other method. You could move the lot line, but 3 acres is the minimum that is
required because this is not a large lot.
4. This request is not substantial:
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5. There are no adverse physical or environmental impacts to the site or neighborhood: There
are none. The dividing line is roughly where there’s...I don’t know if it’s technically a
wetland, but it’s at the dividing line. It’s a wettish area. It’s the logical location to put the
break in. It’s not an undesirable change. And I will note that the lot width is substandard
based on the fact that these lots were put into the large lot district after long after they had
already been established as lots. So, they did not have an opportunity to comply with the
lot with from inception.
6. The difficulty is not self-created:
7. This is not an undesirable change:
RESOLUTION 26-0025
CONDITIONS:
Corrine Volo made a motion for AREA
Located at 1640 Lake Road.
Applicant Michael Seversky of Triple Family
Asset Group LLC is requesting an AREA
VARIANCE to allow a minimum lot width
for (LOT 1) of 162.45’ and a minimum lot
width for (LOT 2) of 177.45’ where 250” is
required in association with the subdivision of
an 8.3-acre parcel having SBL #036.04-1-21
located in an LL Large-Lot Single-Family
Residential District under Section 350-13 of
the Code of the Town of Webster of which
was seconded by Michae! Short.
e The applicant must obtain all necessary governmental! permits, including a Town
Building Permit.
e That one-year significant construction shall expire June 9, 2027
VOTE:
Mr. Short AYE
Mrs. Volo AYE
Mr. Spampinato ABSENT
Mr. Accorso AYE
Mrs. Damelio AYE
Mr. Centola AYE
Located at 1813 Halesworth Lane. Applicant Christian Lyke is requesting a
SPECIAL USE PERMIT to allow 8’ X 8’ chicken coop and no more than 8 hens on a 0.42-acre
parcel having SBL #081.01-2-84 located in an R-2 Single-Family Residential District under Section
350-40 and 350-103 of the Code of the Town of Webster.
Appearing before the board was Christian Lyke. I do have some signed signatures from some of
the neighbors as well as a packet I have for the board. I didn’t make enough copies. I apologize. I
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thought there was five board members that would be here. WALKING AWAY FROM MIC AND
TALKING) I know there was some neighbor concerns that I have to address and then kind of
going over the plan overall as far as what we’re looking to do. I know Mrs. Volo was on site
yesterday and kind of walked through as well with taking a look at the property and the proposed
plans.
BOARD MEMBERS SPEAKING WHILE APPLICANT IS.
My family and I are requesting to do six hens for eggs. Eggs for our personal
consumption as well as for you know teaching our kids and everything to go along with the garden
and everything like that that we have. So, there’s...I felt we put together a pretty good plan as far
as what we’re going to do to house them, protect them, make sure that they don’t get out. As well
as even down to the breed that we went with to ensure that it was aligned and didn’t take away
from the aesthetic of the neighborhood. And they would be as quiet as a hen can be, right?
There’s no roosters allowed. So, we put together, I think, a pretty good plan as far as what we’d be
looking to do. You know, I don’t know if there’s any questions from the board or where we’d like
to start with on the review process.
Can you identify when Erika has a chance to pull up the plan location? It’s going to
be in the back parcel where the red box is identified up on the screen. Is that correct.
And then if you look at photo three, that is exactly where like if you’re looking
from the shed to the left there, that is where it would be placed to kind of give you an idea of the
placement. I have 10 feet behind that fence due to an easement. So, there’ll probably be about 10
feet between where coupe and the run would be. And then that probably have about another 15 to
20 feet back of the property line. And then in photo seven it kind of gives an idea there as well
where you can see the gray box. The garden is located on the other side of the shed.
I apologize to the board. J...the plan didn’t download into the folder this afternoon
that I created. So, you’! have to look at the paper copy in your packet.
So, the neighbor support petition that you handed me. It looks like we got 1818,
1814, 1820, and 1809.
Correct. I had other that were on board, but I could not get their signatures
beforehand. So, and then it did turn into kind of a neighborhood situation between some folks, and
I didn’t want to involve anybody any further. So, I left it as of today. The lines you see was my
youngest daughter thinking her signatures would help. LAUGHTER
Okay, fair enough. How old is your daughter?
I have three kids. One is five, one is seven, one is
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Was it the five year old?
Yes, it was.
Did you have conversations with 859 Bannerwood Drive since you’re ....the coupe
is going to be identified in the back?
Yes, I did. Brian Lipa, him and I spoke in depth on Saturday. He’s fine with it.
He actually thought you could have chickens in Webster without having to go through all the
variances. He’s a contractor, so he gets that sometimes. Brain Lipa was on board. I did think
1817 was its to my understanding that they have sent in a letter otherwise, so I did not get a
Signature from them. And then 1811 there’s been a long dispute since our fence went in
unfortunately. So, they were not on board. We could put the Taj Mahal up there for them and they
wouldn’t be on board.
Understood. Okay. You said 1817 was one that you think was...
Yeah, we spoke to them originally the day I got the call I believe from Erika that
the postcards were going out, and the sign would be going up. I started knocking on doors then we
spike to them and they wanted to kind of see how we were going to secure then hens and then
what our plans was. We went over it and they seemed fine and then something changed
afterwards. So, unfortunately for them. I think a lot of it was around noise.
Yeah, I have 1817...these all become part of the determination or do they not.
Those are public comments made by neighbors.
They are public comments made by neighbors. So, to your point one of the
concerns that I’m looking at here talks about...I guess ultimately animal management not so much
the chickens in general and visibility. So, how are you...ultimately what is the coupe going to look
like? How are you going to maintain that coupe?
I don’t know if you have the pictures and the pamphlet. I provide two. ..the both
options in there that we’ve actually already...they’ ve been delivered. I can return. They were on
sale, so I did order them from Tractor Supply, but we will have a couple that will be able to attach
to a run, an 8 x 8 like run essentially that will have a roof over it that we can then put a...it’s like a
mesh tarp is the only way I can describe it. This will help with making so hawks can’t get in, they
can’t get out. We plan on having cameras, solar cameras like I have on the back of the house onto
the coupe as well. So that we’re able to monitor it as well as a lock on the door. So, kids can’t get
in, other folks can’t get in, and they don’t get out by accident. There will be a solar door for the
coupe to allow the chickens to come in and out at dusk and dawn and also help keep out predators.
So, some of the other options as far as what we’d be looking to do is also we'd be putting more
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arborvitaes around it. We plan on planting different flowers to help with the aesthetics of the coupe
so that it blends in more and it’s just not like an eyesore to some folks.
Just in terms of the approval, if we approve this tonight, it’s good for one year and
then he has to come back. Just to clarify.
Yeah, and it’s yes, still, you know, still has to maintain al! other town codes. If
there’s any issues, neighbors have the ability to call in if necessary. But yes, we have the ability to
provide a special use permit for up to 5S years. For a first time applicant, I would not suggest going
beyond one year.
So, it’s a trial period basically.
Yes, and Corrine kind of went over that the other day. If you go to exhibit D, I put
together the plan that we plan on doing as a family with the children for the daily maintenance, the
weekly, monthly, quarterly, as well as winter maintenance. We have found the coupe we went with
allows...it has a vent at the top so it can property vent throughout the winter. We will be using a
different type of bedding, a hemp bedding because it’s a little bit more dust free, it gives better
warmth and overall, it keeps any odors and anything down like that as well. We’re surrounded by
farms anyway in our subdivision there’s a cow farm right there on Ridge Road. I highly doubt the
chickens would create any smell if we can’t smell that large , you know, cow farm. So, I’ve
worked with the neighbor across the street. Her name is Tiana and she used to have 30 chickens at
her old resident. Christy Tummani on there as well. Had some at her residence on Lake Road.
They’ ve walked us through some dos and don’ts as well like 1 said right down to the breed. We
went with a bard rock. It’s one of the older chickens. I guess in American. I’ve learned more about
chickens than I ever thought I would in my life. But they are known to be extremely friendly.
They’re more like a pet. They like to be held like a pet. They coo...They’re quiet other than, you
know, when they lay the egg, you may hear something. But I plan on trying to do my best to put
more bushes, arborvitaes, things around it to kind of shield some of that sound the best I can. From
my understanding and the people, I’ve spoken to, I did have to put an order in for the eggs because
I wanted all hens. So, you have to pay extra. You have to wait time to get them. They probably
won’t be hatched and delivered to us by the end of June. I apologize and then my understandings
by the time they get to me, they’re 2 to 3 weeks old at that point and they’!] be inside somewhere
for three weeks until they get feathers and can go outside so that gives us time to get everything
properly set up. As far as food storage goes, was that gray bin that you see in the picture there on
the side. I have gotten some, you can get them for dogs, but it has a seal on the inside so that you
can seal it. This way no rodents or anything can get in there and start to go though the chicken
feed. I mean, you name it. I think this probably cost more then I ever anticipated, but I wanted to
make sure that I was not going to upset anyone further. Like I said, there has been issues when the
fence went up and that’s caused some disruptions unfortunately with the neighbors and I hope I’ve
shown that the property is upkept. None shown that the property is unkept of the stuff that I don’t
agree with in those statements is there. I even couldn’t get it my landscaper, and he sent a message
to me that he never confirmed that was never any dog waste. If there is, i's seldom. My dogs go
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in two spots really in the yard and it’s off to the side nowhere near the chicken coop. But I pay to
get the grass cut and taking care of through Pinnacle once a month. And also do extra treatments
for crane flies to make sure that we don’t have any issues with the June bugs coming up and
everything. And then I do have a landscaper that comes every single Thursday and mows the lawn
for me, front and back and week wacks all the way around. So, I’m a little disheartened by some of
the comments that I heard were put out there, but I think I’ve shown in the pictures as well that
there might be times where maybe there’s some, but I think every animal owner has had times
where I’ve seen everybody out there picking up extra droppings because they may have missed
one. But I have three kids like I said , who play, tons of kids who come over to play. It’s a very
busy neighborhood. And that’s keeping the backyard safe, for them is the highest priority. First
and foremost . So, like I said it’s dishearten to hear those statements, but I think I’ve shown the
pictures and that is how the property is upkept. My wife is a nurse practitioner. I’m finishing up
school. Ido network infrastructure for charter communications. We’re both respectable people in
our fields and with our friends. So, it’s just unfortunate that fence cause some people some issues
and it’s lingered for years now.
Erika, I think I saw no outstanding issues or anything if I recall correctly.
No, not on record.
You reference landscape plan.
Yes. That’s where I kind of referenced that I’m going to order I went on the
website this morning to pick out and I don’t know if I want arborvitaes or a different type. We
kind of like the cypresses better, but we are going to along the fence line there as well as because
of some of the disruption, I have contacted the company who put in our fence, and I’Il work with
the town to see what I can do. There’s extenders that I can do to give more privacy. It’s a 4ft up to
the property line and at the time when I did it, 6 foot wasn’t approved. I did find out there are
aluminum extenders I can put across the top to give privacy and then they can do like a weave on
the bottom with like a vinyl so that it pretty much gives me a blackout fence to do that, but I do still
plan until they can figure that because I don’t know cost to put more arborvitaes along that side and
then plant. If you look, that’s why I highlighted the swim spa there. Similar plan to that with he
landscaping. I read that certain flower were better for the hens like blackeye susans, like what’s the
one we put down for...to keep bugs out of the garden? Marigolds, blackeye susans, and some of
the others and then all around.
It’s good for color, doesn’t do much for screening though.
No, but I was trying to think of visually appealing. It’s BOTH PARTIES
SPEAKING AT THE SAME TIME.
It has potential to look really nice. My question, why I was asking, is it your
intention to put the arborvitae along the rear lot line or along your border with 87 or 1817?
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Both. There’s a giant lilac back there on the back side of the corner and then
there’s two giant pear trees right there behind where it’s going to be, but I do plan on doing both.
Then as far as compost, I do have a compost that I built in the back. I have to build a lid for it, but
I understand I can put it in compost and then let it do its natural thing and use it in the garden in
years to come. So, that was the other plan for the waste if that came up.
So, just for clarification, the chicken coupe and chicken run are going to go next to
the shed, based on the screen that we have here. Your plan is to plant and I’m going to call it
arborvitaes. I’m using it as a generic term, but some type of evergreen screening along the back
side of your fence on the, I’m going to say it’s the north side.
No, the opposite side there . So, 1817 has the pool over here and the one picture
that I took their...the house can’t even see where the coup’s going to be because of their 6 foot
privacy fence. I’m still going to put something there just in case they’re in the backyard on the
swing and they have no visual of it.
So, your plan is to put arborvitaes on the north property line and then on the east
property line.
Correct.
Anybody wishing to speak for or against the project? Okay, none and back to the
board.
RESOLUTION 26-0026 Michael Short made a motion TYPE II
Chris
Centola.
VOTE:
Mr. Short AYE
Mrs. Volo AYE
Mr. Spampinato ABSENT
Mr. Accorso AYE
Mrs. Damelio AYE
Mr. Centola AYE
(CORRINE VOLO) The Special Use Criteria.
(1)
The use will not prevent the orderly and reasonable use of adjacent properties or of properties in
adjacent use districts. They are all residential. Based on the location per my visit to the property,
where the coupe is going to go, it is really only going to potentially be visible to two neighbors
and the applicant has indicated that it and I guess | would agree based on my visitation that
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between his screening and the location, it’s not going to prevent anybody from using their property
in any way, shape, or form.
(2)
The public health, safety, general welfare or order of the Town will not be adversely affected by
the proposed use in its location. And | would agree as long as the chicken coupe is maintained as
proposed by the applicant.
(3)
The use will be in general harmony with and promote the general purposes and intent of the most
recent Comprehensive Plan of the Town and the Zoning Ordinance (Chapter 350). J would say the
direction that the town tends to be moving in. We’ve had I’m just going to side note in the past
two years, 8, 10,we do get three or four a year of this exact application. I think people are just
more cognizant of the quality of their food source and where their food is coming from. And it’s
certainly a good project for kids to learn responsibility and the whole food chain
(4)
The proposed use will not interfere with the preservation of the general character of the
neighborhood in which such building is to be placed, or use is to be conducted and that the
proposed use will, in fact, be compatible with its surroundings and with the character of the
neighborhood and of the community in general, particularly with regard to visibility, scale and
overall appearance. And again, it’s going to be screened appropriately between the shed and
plantings and it’s in a location that is at least 20 feet from the rear lot line and probably at least
that much from the other lot lines so it's not right up against anyone else’s property and the
location within the lot is really the most logical with respect to keeping it screened within buildings
and as far away from other residences as possible. And the use will provide the appropriate
landscaping to buffer this from surrounding land uses.
(5)
The physical characteristics and topography of the proposed site make it suitable for the proposed
special use.
(6)
The proposed special use provides appropriate landscaping and/or other forms of buffering to
protect surrounding land uses.
(7)
The property has sufficient, appropriate and adequate area for the use, as well as reasonably
anticipated operation thereof.
(8)
Access to facilities is adequate for the estimated traffic generated by the proposed use on public
streets and sidewalks so as to assure the public safety and to avoid traffic congestion.
(9)
Adequate parking and internal traffic circulation can be accommodated on the property in
compliance with other sections of the Code, taking into account adequate buffering and
landscaping.
(10)
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Adequate facilities exist or can be integrated into the site development to properly deal with
stormwater runoff, sanitary sewers, fire protection, electrical power needs, refuse or other waste
that may be generated, odors, noise or lights which may go beyond property boundaries.
(11)
The natural characteristics of the site are such that the proposed use may be introduced on the
property without undue disturbance or disruption of important natural features, systems or
processes and without negative impact to groundwater and surface waters on and off the site.
(12)
The proposed use can and will comply with all provisions of this chapter and of the Code which
are applicable to it and can meet every other applicable federal, state, county and local law,
ordinance, rule or regulation.
RESOLUTION 26-0027 Michael Short made a motion for SPECIAL
Located at 1813 Halesworth
Lane. Applicant Christian Lyke is requesting
a SPECIAL USE PERMIT to allow 8’ X 8’
chicken coop and no more than 8 hens on a
0.42-acre parcel having SBL #081.01-2-84
located in an R-2 Single-Family Residential
District under Section 350-40 and 350-103 of
the Code of the Town of Webster of which
was seconded by Corrine Volo.
CONDITIONS:
e The applicant must obtain all necessary governmental permits, including a Town
Building Permit.
That one-year significant construction shall expire June 9, 2027
Provide screening evergreen “plantings” along the north property and the east
property line around where the hens are.
e This is for one year. A special use for one year.
So, 1817 and 1856
EVERYONE TALKING AT ONCE.
Should you specify that it’s for one year?
VOTE:
Mr. Short AYE
Mrs. Volo AYE
Mr. Spampinato ABSENT
Mr. Accorso AYE
Mrs. Damelio AYE
Mr. Centola AYE
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You have your special use permit and it’s good for one year. You will have to be
back in front of the board one year from today to ultimately request an extension.
And then do I need to do anything once I get it up and running or ...
Just maintain it.
WATERVIEW APARTMENTS PHASE 3: Located at the northwest corner of Willow Point
Way and Nautical Mile Drive. Applicant Legacy Development Co., Inc is requesting AREA
VARIANCES to allow a front setback of 18.7’ where 75’ is required and to allow a single-
family district buffer of 38.5’ where 100’ is required in association with the construction of (6)
buildings plus a community center (total of 56 units), each 2 stories in height on a proposed
13.15-acre parcel having SBL# 093.06-3-64.11 located in an MHR Medium High Residential
District under Section 350-14 of the Code of the Town of Webster.
APPLICATION TABLED TO JULY 14, 2025
e Approval of minutes for May 12, 2026 ( VOLO/CENTOLA )
VOTE:
Mr. Short AYE
Mrs. Volo AYE
Mr. Spampinato ABSENT
Mr. Accorso AYE
Mrs. Damelio AYE
Mr. Centola AYE
Since there are no further applications before the Board, Michael Short adjourned tonight’s
meeting at 9:00 p.m.
Cn ne AACE A
Corrine Volo, Secretary
Katherine Kolich, Recording Secretary ey eae ae K
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