WEBSTER ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS MINUTES
Webster Town Board Meeting Building 1002 Ridge Road
16 April 2024
7:00 pm
ABSENT:
Michael Short Chris Centola
Corrine Volo
Donald Hauza
Dan Lagoner
Rich Feola
James Spampinato
John DeMarco, Attorney
Katherine Kolich, Recording Secretary
Josh Artuso, Director of Community Development
Good evening and welcome to the Zoning Board Appeals meeting for April 16,
2024. We have one tabled matter and three scheduled matters, and we have proof of legal
publication.
Call Roll
Pledge of Allegiance
Summary of Application Outcomes
TABLED MATTERS
:
1599 RIDGE ROAD SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE
Joe Barone
TABLED TO May 14, 2024 MEETING
SCHEDULED MATTERS
:
POOLHOUSE AND ADDITION-286 COLORADO DRIVE
Scott Mitchell
APPROVED AS PRESENTED
ACCESSORY STRUCTURE- 671 WILLOW LANE
Bryan Bishchoping
TABLED TO MAY 14, 2024
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FENCE-541 GALBRO CIRCLE
Nathan Corr
TABLED TO MAY 14, 2024
ADDITION-1178 JACKSON HEIGHTS DRIVE
Don and Maggie Mooney
APPROVED AS PRESENTED
(Corrine Volo read the first application)
1599 RIDGE ROAD SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE: Located at 1599 Ridge Road.
Applicant Joe Barone is requesting AREA VARIANCES to allow front and side setback less
than what is required associated with the construction of 1,508 SF single family residence on a
0.62-acre parcel having SBL# 080.02-2-32 located in an R-3 Single Family Residential District
under Section 350-12 of the Code of the Town of Webster.
Applicant requested to table application.
RESOLUTION 24-0023 Michael Short made a motion for TABLED
APPLICATION TO May 14, 2024 which was
seconded by: Corrine Volo
VOTE:
Mr. Short AYE
Mrs. Volo AYE
Mr. Hauza AYE
Mr. Lagonor AYE
Mr. Centola ABSENT
Mr. Feola ABSTAINED
Mr. Spampinato AYE
(Corrine Volo read the second application)
Located at 286 Colorado Drive.
Applicant Scott Mitchell is requesting an AREA VARIANCE to allow a second accessory
structure where only (1) is permitted associated with the relocation (and expansion) of an
existing tree house built on 6-foot x 6-foot posts from its current location to the pool area on a
2.0-acre parcel having SBL# 078.10-{1-23 located in an R-3 Single Family Residential District
under Section 350-36 of the Code of the Town of Webster,
Appearing before the board was Scott Mitchell. So, we built a treehouse for our kids a couple of
years ago and they have since grown and it is not getting used. We would like to drop it down
and move it up to the pool and make it like a changing room for the pool.
Very nice treehouse...(laughter) The application says to remove the treehouse to
the pool and add an addition of 312 feet/176 sq ft covered. Can you explain that a little bit
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more. I was viewing the plans, and I am struggling on what you are trying to do. I see the
picture of the treehouse and said great and then | saw the elevation here and I believe the hashed
area was where the treehouse was and then I see the covered area.
So, I am just going to extend the roof line over, 22 feet over and 80 foot back.
So, it ts not enlarging the enclosure of the treehouse it is just extending the roof
line of the treehouse.
Yes.
And then my other question, so this plan (SHOWING ON THE SCREEN} this is
the roof framing plan I am assuming?
That is the deck because it is pitched down.
Ok. That 14-foot area, is that concrete?
No, just decking.
Ok. Unfortunately, I was not able to get to your site, do you already have sheds
on the property?
There is one out there.
Looking at this, it fooks like a framed shed but where it is it appears that there is
three.
Yes, the previous owner had sort of added on and added on.
Gotcha. Any questions or comments from the board?
Josh, is it considered a second accessory structure because of the added cover
area because the tree house would be shed size, but the added roof makes it ....
The footprint...
Considers it an accessory structure.
Correct.
So as far as enclosing accessory space there will not be anymore on the property
then it is right now with respect to square footage.
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(NOT LOUD ENOUGH) INAUDIBLE treehouse to a cabana INAUDIBLE.
Any other questions from the board?
I didn’t have a chance to speak with you, but I did peek over the fence. I know
there is a lot of trees there is that going to be interfering with having to take down any of those
trees.
No. There is no trees around the pool.
I am going to open it up to the public. Is there anyone wishing to speak? Ok, no
comments from the audience. I wil! close it and bring it back to the board.
RESOLUTION 24-0024 Michael Short made a motion FOR TYPE II
Corrine Volo.
VOTE:
Mr. Short AYE
Mrs. Volo AYE
Mr. Hauza AYE
Mr. Lagonor AYE
Mr. Centola ABSENT
Mr. Feola ABSTAINED
Mr. Spampinato AYE
CORRINE VOLO
I.
2. This request is not out of character in the neighborhood: It is not out of character. The
treehouse is already there, and it is just being relocated forward.
There will not be a detriment created to nearby properties: It is not a detriment to nearby
properties and where the pool is, it is not really going to be in line of site in any of the
contingent properties.
The benefit is not achievable by any other method: The structure is already there it is just
a relocation for it.
It is not substantial
There are no adverse physical or environmental impacts to the site or neighborhood: No,
will not. It is primarily open space with just the enclosed treehouse.
The difficulty is not self-created:
This is not an undesirable change:
This request is not significant:
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RESOLUTION 24-0025 Corrine Volo made a motion to APPROVE THE AREA
VARIANCE Located at 286 Colorado Drive. Applicant
Scott Mitchell is requesting an AREA VARIANCE to
allow a second accessory structure where only (1) is
permitted associated with the relocation (and expansion)
of an existing tree house built on 6-foot x 6-foot posts
from its current location to the pool area on a 2.0-acre
parcel having SBL# 078. 10-1-23 located in an R-3 Single
Family Residential District under Section 350-36 of the
Code of the Town of Webster which was seconded by:
Dan Lagoner.
VOTE:
Mr. Short AYE
Mrs. Volo AYE
Mr. Hauza AYE
Mr. Lagonor AYE
Mr. Centola ABSENT
Mr. Feola ABSTAINED
Mr. Spampinato AYE
CONDITIONS:
® The applicant must obtain all necessary governmental permits, including a Town
Building Permit.
e That one-year significant construction shall expire April 16, 2025.
(Corrine Volo read the third application)
Located at 671 Willow Lane. Applicant
Bryan Bishchoping is requesting AREA VARIANCES to allow a side setback less than what is
required and to allow the placement of the accessory structure to be nearer to the front property
line than the rear line of the main residence associated the construction of a 500 SF detached
wood-framed structure on a 0.46-acre parcel having SBL # 065.13-2-11 located in an R-3 Single
Family Residential District under Sections 350-12 and 350-36 of the Code of the Town of
Webster.
Application tabled to May 14, 2024 meeting.
(Corrine Volo read the fourth application)
Located at 541 Galbro Circle. Applicant Nathan
Corr is requesting an AREA VARIANCE to allow a 10’ tall privacy fence on the lot line where
a 15’ setback is required associated with the installation of approximately 147 LF of privacy
fencing on a 0.50-acre parcel having SBL # 078. !2-2-3 located in an R-3 Single Family
Residential District under Section 350-79 of the Code of the Town of Webster.
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Appearing before the board was (NOT SPEAKING LOUD ENOUGH) Nathan Corr and wife,
Alexandra LaLonde. I am looking to build a privacy fence in the rear of our property. There is
an INAUDIBLE as well. Eventually we want to enclose the entire backyard INAUDIBLE and
will connect to the pool fence that is not displayed on there, but it is the intent of that little piece.
We are requesting additional height and on the property line due to the differences in grade
between our property and the rear property. The rear property is like 3-4 feet higher
INAUDIBLE site so you can tell what we are looking at.(Note: the property to the rear is 941
Gravel Road) It is less than desirable so we are looing to build that fence to control our own
backyard privacy/view.
So, one of the pictures too is to... That picture right there, shows what our
backyard use to look like in August of last year. Basically our backyard neighbor has cleared out
those trees and brush that was on his property so I have included a few different pictures that
show different trailers; different trucks that are parked back there and currently right now, there
were more taken down and it’s kind of been more exposed but basically with the different trucks
and trailers coming in and out, that happens almost daily and the other equipment that is being
stored there and the height difference is why we are going for the fence. Just to be able to have
privacy in our backyard. We would like to enjoy our pool area and backyard.
(NOT SPEAKING LOUD ENOUGH) The previous owner tried to plant the pine
trees for all the shade and they kind of died so INAUDIBLE and a burning bush or anything like
that would only give us coverage for the summer INAUDIBLE.
Additionally, to that kind of area on our property, it does retain a lot of
water as well from just being at a lower grade so that is another concern as well with trying to
plant certain things and being able to INAUDIBLE. Looking for the fence and a permanent
solution all year around. So, like ] mentioned before, the owner behind us has taken down part of
his fence and unfortunately it has been down since last year INAUDIBLE (PAPERS
RATTLING AND APPLICANT NOT SPEAKING UP) INAUDIBLE.
I know he said my wife, but could you please tell us your name for the record.
Alexandra LaLonde.
Does anyone have any questions or comments?
(NOT SPEAKING LOUD ENOUGH) Visiting the site, I can see why they
applied for a ten-foot fence INAUDIBLE situation with your neighbor that is causing
INAUDIBLE, but I don’t like fences but, in this case, INAUDIBLE next-door neighbor to pay
for the installation of the fence for privacy INAUDIBLE doing on his own property.
Josh, do you want to give an overview of the content of what is going on from the
towns perspective so it’s kind of joined with the application,
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Sure. Yes, the property owner at 941 Gravel Road was issued a special use permit
many years ago for a major home occupation and within the past 8-9 months or so, the town
began to receive complaints from adjoining neighbors based upon the fill activity and the loss of
the vegetation that was one there. So, we do have an active/open code violation on the property
associated with the storage of the recreation vehicles and we are going to be exploring bringing
the owner of 941 Gravel Road back in for this board to re-review the special permit and the
conditions that were imposed back in 2011 which did require that all of the equipment that was
associated with the business must be stored in the numerous buildings that are out on the
property. So, it was heard earlier this month in court, it was adjourned to next month because the
owner indicated that they re-parked everything in a code compliant location but again, we are
exploring the original conditions imposed on the home occupation permit and bringing it back to
the board or next month for further consideration.
There wasn’t any code violations with respect to striking the vegetation.
No, there was no specific code violation associated with that.
So, even subsequent to a prosecution for lack of a better term with respect to the
adjoining property even if it comes into compliance with the visual that you see up on the screen
now. INAUDIBLE.
(NOT SPEAKING LOUD ENOUGH) All that based on my understanding
should all be marked inside INAUDIBLE the property.
Correct.
(NOT SPEAKING LOUD ENOUGH) INAUDIBLE that individual
INAUDIBLE on his property. Now screening is gone.
Between vegetation and the fence that was there. It was a 6-foot fence and
screened it for the most part from the neighbors. f don’t know if we ever received noise
complaints until recently, but the screening no longer hides the business. The fence and the
hedgerow were very dense.
When was the vegetation taken down?
| am sorry, the vegetation shown in that one picture that [ included, that was
taken down last summer at the end of August. There have been a fair amount of trees that have
fallen that as well as all the way down the property line within the last year or so there has been
three major trees that have fallen down and one has fallen and crushed my shed; one has fallen
and crushed our neighbors property as well and one actually fell on his property and there are
trees that are right on the property line. So, they are three big ones and then in the back of the
brush in that one picture has been cleared out since August.
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So, in the corner of the pool and fence there is a big empty spot on the ground that
is where the shed used to be, and it was screen over there a little bit as well and that is no longer
there.
And as far as noise complaints, I have definitely made some in the past and
I think there is a lot of other things with he special use permits. I know there are times when the
noise can start at 7:30 in the morning and I have documented it starting at 4:00 AM but for the
INAUDIBLE | guess that is a separate issue but we are really trying to look at it from a visual
perspective right now but there are definitely some other issues that can be frustrating at times
with the situation.
Even if they are parked and stored somewhere else, they can use that area as a
turnaround day and night so without a fence or anything blocking it, they go and turn their trucks
around and sometimes idling for 5-6 minutes on the side of our house and our neighbors house as
well.
As late as 9:30 at night and also, pretty early in the morning as well. Also,
there are trucks there, parked there. Whoever came out today, there were a truck parked back
there today and also a trailer parked back there today. Unfortunately, it seems like they are
always coming and going .
Yes, I feel for you. I am of the opinion that all is well, and I do believe good
fences make good neighbors on one hand, 10-foot fence is a big fence, and it is a 24—30-inch feet
difference between your property and the neighbor’s property but the special use variance is
definitely a component of this right. They were not using that for special use home occupancy
variance. They wouldn’t have trucks there or all that traffic at that location. So, Lam struggling
because I fee! for you and if I was you and standing in your situation as well but on the other
hand it’s not your call it’s them not following the special use that was outlaid for them. Again,
il’s a tough one.
1 went back there and I walked the property line between Galbro Road and other
parcels on Sunday afternoon and | went back there today with a tape measure just to make sure
to check the height for my own mind and the difference between the grade of the property at 541
Galbro Road and the rear neighbor at Gravel is at least 2 feet and for a good portion of itis a
good 36 inches and even if the equipment goes away the lot has been filled with a bunch of
construction debris with garbage and asphalt; scrapings from roads and concrete and pylons |
don’t think there is anything that is going to happen from the perspective of the rear property
owner that is going to make a view any better than the fence and when I read the application
initially, a 10 foot fence is obviously quite tall but when I stood there 1 don’t know that the 10
foot fence is quite tall enough but it will certainly buffer the headlights from the vehicle and
buffer the view and will at least not sce all the garbage. If you sit at their deck with a cup of
coffee, you are basically seeing and sitting next to the city dump. There is a lot of construction, a
lot of old tires and so separate from even the extra trailers parked there, | think the fence there is
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the only thing that is going to screen it, and nothing will grow there to shield it. Between the
water that is running between the backyards or the impervious surface that is behind it.
What style fence are you proposing?
Wood and to be a good neighbor, both sides would look the same.
With the board on board?
Yes
| kind of agree with Corrine, it is a sad situation back there. I do feel sorry for you,
and I do agree that a fence would help. A 10-foot fence like she was saying, it will help, and
buffer and you will still see the tops of some of the vehicles, but f do agree, | think a fence is
probably the only solution for what their situation is.
Any other questions from the board? Is there anyone from the public?
next door neighbor. {DID NOT SIGN IN) Lam at 545 Galbro Circle. (has a bit
of an accent and hard to hear) It is a nightmare and the one thing I will dispute is that it is only
in the last 8-9 months, and I have pursued the town multiple times over decades INAUDIBLE. 1
can tell you all the stories of what transpired, and it’s been 25 years and I know he was given a
special use permit, and he violated every single point of that, I understand that now he moved
his vehicles and that was the day of the court and I have zero confidence that he will comply with
that once everyone kind of moves on because that has been the case every single time. So, I get
the privilege of looking at that as well INAUDIBLE negative impact because my property is right
next to him.
Are you the property at the tree there?
Yes, my property if you want to bring that up.
I am trying to bring up your location.
one dealing with the side that is damaged because he was allowed to get this
permit (?) and not because he compiled with that permit and the trees are dying and I am trying
to rebuild my property, but he is (7) suppose to take down his trees which he didn’t and the
damaged trees INAUDIBLE. So, my point was is that 1 think geographically speaking, | think
IANUDIBLE, and I am for it because we have both suffered enough and just like INAUDIBLE I
literally have INAUDIBLE right to the town at 6:00 AM in the morning, dump trucks dumping
things; all the beeping; the front loaders; it's INAUDIBLE and it has only been in the last 8-9
months and with the new arrival of the new town code enforcement, Jin Montgomery has started
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taken care of it. INAUDIBLE. So, it is only getting worse and worse and worse. f am in full
support of them.
Thank you, I appreciate that.
Dave Malecki at 563 Galbro Circle: (NOT SPEAKING CLEARLY) I don't really know you very
well (SPEAKING TO THE APPLICANT) I think I may have talked to you. I have never been to
either property. The only thing [ know is where it is and that it is the property to the right and
five down from mine. I trust Olga, she is a real estate agent and we talked about real estate stuff,
so listen to her. 1 came here tonight to speak against the project. INAUDIBLE listed here and I
am against that. IT want more information. Josh, you may have responded to a complaint that I
had about the neighbor on Allegro at one point, and I was very pleased with the response and
the other thing | wanted to mention, | appreciate the conversation about what you really want to
do and also from the board, I have not changed my mind, Lam still against it.
Ok, do you mind telling us why you are opposed to it.
(NOT SPEAKING CLEARLY) I would rather see a 15 feet setback and whatever
the maximum height is. INAUDIBLE.
(NEVER SIGNED IN) I know nothing about this particular property but could
someone on the board just say, when we have this wreck of a property that ts interfering with the
enjoyment of neighbors, why is it not incumbent upon the person who made the mess to put up
the 10-foot fence rather than a young couple who just bought a house.
This is all coming to light. | know for myself, and I believe the rest of the board
as of recently, we are working through it at this point.
Someone in the audience speaking.
That would be my preference and J think 1 stated that earlier, I am not a fence
guy but looking at the situation, why should they pay to install a fence for something that he is
doing but unfortunately his application is not in front of us. We can only act on the application
before us.
My tissue with this whole thing is that] have 25 years of pent-up aggravation and
frustration with this property and the town and took a blind eye to everything he was doing. So, 1
understand that he came in front of you all and got a permit and he violated every aspect of it,
and he continues to completely laugh in everyone’s face, and he is playing a shell game where he
just keeps moving vehicles around and what not. Right now, my property is flooding and there
property is flooding and not to mention all of it. So, at what point is it the towns responsibility to
enforce what is happening. Like | said, you give him the permits and this whole time he has not
complied with anything, All the complaints from the neighbors were completely ignored. As T
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said, thanks to some of the new people that came on board, things seem to be moving and I know
Josh is trying different aspects but it seems like one person is allowed to affect the quality of life
of everybody else so ok maybe he doesn't have to pay for the fence but how about he level the
whole property right and take all the trash like Corrine was there and was taking pictures and
what I ant looking at is bare asphalt under the ground so make him take it all off | don’t need the
forest back but when he bought the house, it was a beautiful house and beautiful woods, and he
took the trees down, but it is not his right to do this. At what point does the town come in and
does something about it.
[ think we are at that point. He is dealing with the court system and from the
sounds of it from what Josh indicated earlier, he may have to come back in front of this board so
we will have a public hearing should they need to come back in front of this board, permits“are
granted, and permits are revoked also.
Exactly so one of the issues I have with this property as well, is the DEC and town
becatse when we came and we talked about elevation and now it’s affecting our drainage as
well as ail the garbage and debris that was buried there right, what are we going to do about it
because we don’t know what is buried there and you can see with your eyes the cement and the
asphalt right and the answer was well you have to go talk to DEC that is there responsibility and
! actually called DEC and they said it is the towns responsibility right, so where are we going. |
know live next to a landfill and the town has allowed him to do it for decades so who is going to
take responsibility for making sure that this is going to be done right. I don’t worry about the
fence, what I need is not to have the landfill. I have nothing against the fence as long as you
remedy the situation.
We still have more steps to take. I can not talk for the rest of the board, but 1
know ! was not there for that variance, and J think it was 2013, if ] remember correctly.
It wasn’t a variance; I was a major occupation
It is not that he was getting the variance, that variance allowed him to park his vehicles in
the barn that is not the issue here, everything else that has been done about it.
It was part of that permit. At least that is what I am considering,
The fill is different.
He is bringing debris from his jobs and dumping it on the property and then spreading it
around. ft is not part of his special use permit.
I understand.
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[ will say, I appreciate everything you said and all [I can say is for myself, I can’t
fix what | don’t know that its broken and I am not saying that you didn’t bring it to the towns
attention before, but I know this board was very active leading up to this meeting and trying to
understand what was happening and we have our triggers that we are able to utilize and as you
mentioned I will give kudos to Josh. Josh has done a phenomenal job as well and all I can say is
we are moving forward, and we are trying to help remedy this and we will do with whatever is in
our powers.
Exactly and it has just been with new management for a year.
Understood.
And it is only getting worst. So, and while the town decides how we can proceed further
right, if they want to put up a fence and again, | understand there is concern but he is nowhere
near that house. | am the only one going to be looking at it.
Thank you. Is there any other questions?
Concern with the other neighbors setback, the position of our pool and
shed, } don’t think the 15 feet would be feasible and also, it’s kind of hard to tell from this
picture but our property does continuously sloop down so I think the further in that you go the
taller you would need it to be able to get the coverage so that is just the one thing that I wanted to
point out. Because that permanent fence that you see that is not even on the property line that is
actually the fence that he put up and it’s not on the property line, its that one piece that is angled
that way in the back of the... guess the part closer to his property that is truer (o where our
property line is. So, the original fence was...that he put up was set back to the property line so if
we were going to try and put one and then 15 feet, then essentially you are going to be going
across our pool and it is going to be even lower elevation so I just wanted to point that out since
it's a little bit hard to tell on the pictures and I totally understand everyone’s concerns but I] just
wanted to provide some context of what we are looking for on the property line.
When do you plan on doing the install?
As soon as we can.
RESOLUTION 24-0028 Michael Short made a motion FOR TYPE If SEQR
which was seconded by: Donald Hauza.
VOTE:
Mr. Short AYE
Mrs. Volo AYE
Mr. Hauza AYE
Mr. Lagonor AYE
Mr. Centola ABSENT
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Mr. Feola ABSTAINED
Mr. Spampinato AYE
| have one additional comment, or question to the board, because of the situation
with the neighbor, again, | understand the need for the fence | suggest or consider putting a
duration on the fence. It being a wooden fence, which I believe that you mentioned on building,
it typically has a 15 +/- year lifespan. Is it possible that once that it “rots” out that this variance
ends up going away. Maybe the use of the neighbors property ends up changing special use and
is nol necessary in that area anymore then the fence isn’t necessary but then if it is another
variance could be done at that time, so ] am almost wondering, do we put a 15-year limit on the
variance on it otherwise it ts indefinite with this property.
Can we do that?
(NOT SPEAKING LOUD ENOUGH OR NOT CLOSE ENOUGH TO THE
MIC) That is what I have been looking at for the last 20 minutes. This precedent to do that I was
trying to find something specific in New York State but typically, variances go with the land and
stays with them forever. There is convenance that can be formative or restrictive associated with
he easement between joining property owners because I am not sure whether we are the authority
on what would be in the covenant or the time limit on it . ] am not saying that we can’t because
they do exist. Josh, ] don’t know. I was telling the chairman that ] haven’t had that issue come
up and I think here, in the context of the potential prosecution with the revisit and the special
permit and what goes on with that property. There may come a time and point when the fence
isn’t needed. I tend to think that if the current landowner were to agree with that, I don’t think
that there is anything prohibiting but ] can’t find anything.
Yes, I personally am not aware or experienced anything like that.
Rather than establish a time limit on that if there was a need to reconstruct the
fence the applicant would then need to come back in front of the board so the board can revisit
the situation rather than establish a time limit.
f would be more prone to be more agreeable with that. My forward thinking is if
in 15-20 years, the fence is no longer viable and needs to be replaced, if, a 10-foot fence is
expensive, 20 years from now it is going to be more cost prohibited if there is no longer a need
for it, | can’t imagine that the homeowner would want to replace it if there was no longer to
block a sightly view. So, it might just kill itself,
The good news is that Don will be here... (LAUGHTER)
I hope [ am.
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[ don’t know if the board has considered and [ don’t know if the proposal
includes a conventional fence that wraps around as apposed to some type of angled buffer, more
of a buffer than a fence per say. In the picture that is reflected on the monitor there is a fence
that wraps all the way around the pool. Is this contemplating just kind of a buffer to kind of ...
It would be forward of that wooden fence so that fence is actually back here.
(SHOWING MR. DEMARCO ON PLANS) 5 or 6 feet off of their property line.
(CONVERSATIONS AMOUGST BOARD AND LOOKING AT PICTURES)
I believe it was at least 5 feet and 1 will also mention is the property owner of 941
Gravel recently applied for a permit and was issued a permit to relocate the existing fence to the
property line, so it really doesn’t do too much to screen the view.
One thing, 1 also spoke to him, and he said he was going to use the existing
panels which are rotting and have been there for a while, so I think in this case too, obviously it’s
a cost that we don’t necessarily want to have to pay but I think us paying for it and putting in a
brand new fence is going to make that area look a litile bit better than just putting the existing
one back up.
Are you going to leave it natural? Paint it, stain it?
We don’t know exactly what color stain or color.
Basically, we are just trying to make it look cohesive. If there is something
that you guys suggest, when we are working on it but technically, we just are looking for
privacy. If there is stain or paint or what not that is more appealing, we are very much fine with
doing that.
Are there any other questions? Sorry, I brought it back to the board.
No, I can’t say that it typically runs with the land, and it is there for all time to
come.
The only reason that | put a time frame to it is, 15-20 years that fence is going to
be rotted and my original thought is when the fence is rotted out, you could replace it and then
and come back for a variance, if they want a 10-foot fence otherwise a 6-foot fence
But you have to get another permit to replace the fence and | don’t know if there is
a tickler note that we can put in the address that it needs to come back before the Zoning Board
before the higher than allowed fence needs to be.
This way we don’t establish a timeline (BOTH PARTIES SPEAKING)
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We have done that I think a couple of sheds over the years. When it comes time
to replace the second shed, you need to come back in front of the board and...
What constitutes replacing? Obviously, the fence is not going to degrade all at
once. Sections degrade. We plan on fixing the fence as it goes rather than waiting till it is all
falling down to replace it.
I will say, you would be shocked especially with a wood fence that they do
typically degrade, and | am not going to say completely wholesale but even if you look at your
neighbors fence, it is rotted in multiple sections and has fallen out in different sections and if you
do one panel a year, you will never be able to catch up.
Your posts are going to rot.
And your posts are to rot.
I think he is just asking that in case something falls down are we going to
have to come back in?
No. If you have a problem with a panel, put it up.
I am just trying to understand if that is the case.
When it comes time to replace the entire fence because it is not salvageable
anymore.
CORRINE VOLO
1. This request is not out of character in the neighborhood: It is semi not out of character.
There was a fence back there, but it is now gone. This is replacing the fence that was on
the other owners property but it’s taller and it is out of sight except for the neighbor at 545
and he is in favor of it.
2. There will not be a detriment created to nearby properties: So, as far as the detriment to
nearby properties, it will not create a detriment. At the one end of that it is connected up to
the chain link fence and in the back of someone else INAUDIBLE lot a couple of
subdivisions there is some kind of INAUDIBLE lines in there. As far as achievable by any
other method I guess I will say that | am not confident that the view will improve quickly
enough that there is any other besides the fence to block the mess that they are currently
dealing with.
3. This request is not substantial: It is substantial, but given the surrounding area, excess
height is required.
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7. There are no adverse physical or environmental impacts to the site or neighborhood: | think
this is actually INAUDIBLE an adverse environmental impact that was created by a
situation done by the original INAUDIBLE, but the fence is not in my opinion, not going
to impact the water table or the way the water is moving and it’s really not going to impact
anyone’s view but yours.
In this case I am going to say it is not self-created because
you wouldn’t need the fence if it were not for the difficulty that was created by someone
else behind you.
This is not an undesirable change: This will be a desirable change because it will at least
hide the view of the dump.
This request is not significant:
RESOLUTION 24-0029 Corrine Volo made a motion to APPROVE THE AREA
VARIANCE Located at 541 Galbro Circle. Applicant
Nathan Corr is requesting an AREA VARIANCE to
allow a 10° tall privacy fence on the lot line where a 15”
setback 1s required associated with the installation of
approximately 147 LF of privacy fencing on a 0.50-acre
parcel having SBL # 078.12-2-3 located in an R-3 Single
Family Residential District under Section 350-79 of the
Code of the Town of Webster which was seconded by:
Donald Hauza.
VOTE:
Mr. Short AYE
Mrs. Volo AYE
Mr. Hauza AYE
Mr. Lagonor AYE
Mr. Centola ABSENT
Mr. Feola ABSTAINED
Mr. Spampinato AYE
CONDITIONS:
The applicant must obtain afl necessary governmental permits, including a Town
Building Permit.
That one-year significant construction shall expire April 16, 2025.
The variance will be for the life of the fence and once the fence rots out the variance
is no longer in effect. If you need a ten-foot fence again you are going to have to
reapply or ask the board for an extension.
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(Corrine Volo read the fifth application)
JACKSON HEIGHTS DRIVE LIVING ROOM ADDITION: Located at 1178 Jackson
Heights Drive. Applicants Don & Maggie Mooney are requesting an AREA VARIANCE to
allow a rear setback less than what is required associated with the construction of a 196 SF foot
living room addition on a 0.77-acre parcel having SBL # 080. 13-2-3.2 located in an R-3 Single
Family Residential District under Section 350-12 of the Code of the Town of Webster.
Appearing before the board was Nick Mooney. I am representing my parents with this
submission. They are requesting a 38-foot rear setback for a living room addition and backs up
to acommercial district. That is pretty much it.
Questions from the board? .
Why couldn’t the addition go to east of the house?
Because of grade and there is a large tree. Also, there will be no need to have any
trees taken down.
There is currently a deck there, right?
Yes, there is currently a deck there and the addition will actually fit inside of the
footprint of the existing deck so there will not be any further than the existing deck.
Was there a variance issued for that deck?
(A COUPLE OF PEOPLE SPEAKING AT THE SAME TIME) INAUDIBLE
A deck receives a 10 percent or allowance?
| think it is 20 percent
It is 20 percent, and it backs up to Limelight Automotive.
And given , not that the Limelight property counts but because the way the fence
is with Limelight and the buffer space it’s not going to look like its really too close to the lot line.
Any questions from the board?
No
Any comments from the public? Ok, we will bring it back to the board.
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RESOLUTION 24-0030 Michael Short made a motion to FOR TYPE II SEQR
which was seconded by: Donald Hauza.
VOTE:
Mr. Short AYE
Mrs. Volo AYE
Mr. Hauza AYE
Mr. Lagonor AYE
Mr. Centola ABSENT
Mr. Feola ABSTAINED
Mr. Spampinato AYE
MICHAEL SHORT (HARD TO HEAR, A LOT OF PAPERS
RATTLING)
This request is not out of character in the neighborhood: It backs up to a commercial site
and the house is set far enough back and will not be visible from the main street
2, There will not be a detriment created to nearby properties: No detriment to nearby
properties because of the commercial and residential district. It is not achievable my any
other method.
3. This request is not substantial: No
4. There are no adverse physical or environmental impacts to the site or neighborhood: No
INAUDIBLE and not affecting the water ways or anything else in the area.
5. The difficulty is not self-created: Due to the way the property is situated
6. This is not an undesirable change: None. Will add value to the property and to the
residents.
7. This request is not significant:
RESOLUTION 24-0031 Michael Short made a motion to APPROVE THE AREA
VARIANCE Located at 1178 Jackson Heights Drive.
Applicants Don & Maggie Mooney are requesting an
AREA VARIANCE to allow a rear setback less than
what is required associated with the construction of a 196
SF foot living room addition on a 0.77-acre parcel having
SBL # 080. 13-2-3.2 located in an R-3 Single Family
Residential District under Section 350-12 of the Code of
the Town of Webster which was seconded by: Corrine
Volo.
VOTE:
Mr. Short AYE
Mes. Volo AYE
Mr. Hauza AYE
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Mr. Lagonor AYE
Mr. Centola ABSENT
Mr. Feola ABSTAINED
Mr. Spampinato AYE
CONDITIONS:
e The applicant must obtain all necessary governmental permits, including a Town
Building Permit.
e That one-year significant construction shall expire April 16, 2025.
ADMINISTRATIVE ITEM:
e 877 Maple Drive-one year follow up review. Board amended Special Use Permit
to allow 12 hens in total from
6. Corrine Volo: Read into record.
Was there a little twist in it?
No. So, the original approval states that it was a maximum of 6 hens and requires a
one-year evaluation on April 2024 Zoning Board meeting with a possibility of extending the
special permit and allowing more hens. That was the language of the original approval. Are you
requesting more hens?
1 would like up to 10 hens. We have 6 but at Easter we lost | so I was thinking
another batch.
That would put you at |} and you have to purchase 6 | believe. 1 know Tractor
Supply and most places don’t let you purchase anything less than
6. Nicholas Sereni: I wasn’t sure, I thought it was the total that you had,
No, unfortunately the stores that sell them are 6 and even at Country Max, | think
they are 6 as well but | could be wrong.
How large is your lot?
Mine is 2 acres a litthe under 2 acres.
And where is the coop on the lot itself.
We have a garage and touching the back wall of the garage.
It’s a long and narrow lot.
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Yes, it Just goes straight back on this picture and it’s almost the exact width of
the garage there, so it is just right behind
Is it directly behind or is it to the south of the garage and based on the aerial
photo that I have you have a pool in the back yard as well, correct? Is that on the side of the
garage or behind the garage?
Yes, behind the garage.
If you were to buy another 6 chicks is the chicken coop and run that you have still
sized appropriately to hold up to 12?
Yes. It is a pretty popular design, and many people say they have even more
than !2 but they recommend 8 to !4 in there. It’s pretty large.
And there are no neighbors.
There is a neighbors set back.
Are you going to have them back in a year, or not? Ok, here is my suggestion,
you can leave it the way it is and then that is the end of the review. If the board is comfortable
with increasing the number in exchange, review later if there are any concerns.
How do you fee! about that?
I am free next April....c(LAUGHTER)
You have 5 home now, right so the max is a dozen.
Do we need a motion?
(CAN NOT HEAR) Keep the original and just amend it.
1 make a motion to amend the variance granted at 877 Maple Drive,
078.11-1-28 from allowing 6 hens to a maximum of [2 hens. This property is located in a
residential district. Applicant to return in one year for a follow-up.
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CONDITION:
¢ Board will review in one year from today 4.16.25. If review is positive the board
will extend a 5-year follow-up.
VOTE:
Mr
Mrs
Mr
Mr
Mr
Mr
Mr
. Short AYE
s. Volo AYE
. Hauza ABSTAINED
. Lagonor AYE
. Centola ABSENT
. Feola ABSTAINED
. Spampinato AYE
¢ Minutes for January 16, 2024, February 13, 2024, and March 26 were approved.
Since there is no further application before the Board Michael Short adjourned tonight’s meeting
at 8:30 p.m.
Corrine Volo, Secretary
Katherine Kolich, Recording Secretary
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