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captions Language: en Okay. as soon as it hits. >> Is this like New Year's countdown? >> Can we please make ball? [snorts] >> Look at that. We got someone binding it out a 7:30. I am going to call to order the town board meeting of September 17th. Would you all please join me for the pledge of allegiance? >> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Mr. Would you please roll call? >> Supervisor Shadow. I am here. >> Counciloman Ka here. Councilwoman Wright >> here.

Councilman Hunter >> here. >> Councilman Wagner >> here. >> Attorney for the town Chi >> here. >> All right. Uh before we begin our normal uh September is childhood cancer awareness month. Um we have two families with us here who are unfortunately have had to go through this in their lives and we'll present with them a proclamation if they would like to join me at the podium up there. Please uh the I cannot print off the last name. Be the are they here? No. Okay. So, we have one family here today. But uh this is a proclamation in recognition of childhood cancer awareness month. Whereas the significance of honoring children and their families affected by childhood cancer cannot be overstated, recognizing September as childhood cancer awareness month serves to recognize the lives of those who have fought bravely to support survivors and their loved ones and advocate for research into treating and curing the devastating disease.

>> [clears throat] >> And whereas last year over 9,500 children under the age of 15 and nearly 5,500 teenagers between the ages of 15 and 19 in the United States were diagnosed with childhood cancer according to the American Cancer Society. The heartbreaking truth is more than 1,000 of these young patients are likely to succumb to the disease within the next year. And whereas cancer is a disease that knows no borders, follows no specific path, and shows no mercy, its impact hits close to home for many as it affects our community directly in the Rochester region where there were 61 newly diagnosed children along with five relapses and five losses last year.

We stand with the community in honoring their lives, confronting the harsh reality of this disease and its effects on our community. It is not int is not intended to devastate residents but rather to encourage greater awareness. And whereas our region has a tradition of standing at the forefront of significant national movements, organizations like cure childhood cancer association offer support and assistance to families and children facing the overwhelming challenges of a cancer diagnosis. Let this one serve as a strong call to unite with the bereieved families and those currently dying of cancer in the fight against this disease that will someday we will defeat.

And whereas there is no greater determination than that of a family and child who have faced childhood cancer, let us strive to honor the lives of those who have lost their battle with this terrible disease and support those who are still experiencing it as steadfast cheerleaders. And now therefore be resolved on behalf of the Webster Town Board and the entire Webster community, we recognize September and Webster's childhood cancer awareness month. I just want [applause] >> [snorts] >> I just want to say before we get started, one of the recipients of this award, Vivian, not going to cry. She spoke at the last town board meeting and I encourage anybody who wasn't here and didn't see it to watch the um open to the public from our last meeting.

I think Vivian had some tremendous things to say and I'm very proud [laughter] of how brave she was when she spoke in front of the community. Thank you. [applause] With that uh we will do our open to the floor section now. Um just so everyone is aware [clears throat] um you have some rules of conduct. I'm sorry I'm bothering the most terrifying thing in my life to think about. So so sorry for everything you guys have to go through. But you are speaking before the board. Please speak to the board and not the audience. Uh public comments are limited to 5 minutes to keep the meeting progressing. Uh at four minutes I will notify you that you are at four.

I used to wave my hand around but I don't think it's as effective as I wanted it to be. Uh we will not be answering questions but at this time but if you want your question answered you may provide your email address to the town clerk. Uh and please respect the speaker and refrain from disruptive behaviors or comments. They may not say something you agree with but they have every right to say it except that threatening statements will not be tolerated and may involve meeting room. [clears throat] Um with that I would like to uh first up have Dave Mlei. Dave, you haven't seen me in a while. >> Well, actually, you have seen me at your public meetings.

>> Yes. And uh thank you very much for holding us by the way. I really appreciate the one time there. Um more people should go there. We can discuss the library in depth then. Okay. So I'm here discuss uh transportation issues. Um there aren't very many outlet bridge really shouldn't have been built as far as I'm concerned but you know they really had nothing to do with that and uh other people did but you know I I just can't question why they did it. But uh the problem I have with it is I like to bike because uh biking saves me a lot of money and it gives me a little exercise. Um, I just heard on the radio the other day that uh costs over a dollar a mile for people to drive.

And my biggest uh question and concern about the uh um about the new library here discussion really isn't necessarily the cost of it, it's the location of it. Um because, you know, I really like to go for a bike ride. And if uh if you're talking about changing the location of the of the library substantially, that's going to affect me hugely because the library is just within my range to walk and walking cost me nothing and it gives me a lot of physical benefits. Um biking it's well within the range of biking. Um it's about a 5 mile round trip. Saves me about $5 each time I ride a bike versus walk versus drive my car to go to the library.

So consider that once. Um, Google knows everything, but I asked a few questions today I couldn't answer. Maybe you guys can. Um, where's the geographic center of the town of Webster? I think it's right around where we are here if I'm not. Um, but where's the population center? I think it's also around here. So, consider this. Where I live in West Street, if you move the library location to let's say the town of Wreck, Xerox campus, you've doubled the distance for me. So that $5 trip cost me $10. Okay. So I'm very sensitive to where the library is going to be and I would like some accountability for what is under consideration for location.

I mean I I shot the truth. Okay. Hiding it is just unfair and it's really disingenuous and in my mind it's lying. So let's let's make honest decisions or honest discussions about where the library is going to be. Okay. So cost is a varies a lot. You can spend a dollar to drive a car. You can spend $10. I don't care. Um but what I do what does get me is if people are driving a car gets in my way bicycling, you know, it's my wife that's on my wall there. I don't want to hear. So let's go back to the yellow bridge. Um, I don't really know the history of why the bridge was built the way it was. I know how it was sold as a compromise.

It was no compromise. All it does is it um it perpetuates conflict between motorists and boats, right? But there's better solutions than what we did at that. Here's one solution for me. Um, let's leave the bridge the way it is for now. You know, turning and all that, but let's build a pedestrian bridge right next to it. I think we can build one of those a lot cheaper. you built the library. Thank you. >> Thank you, Dave. Up next, we have Joe Loco. I hope I'm pronouncing that correctly. Okay. Uh, Jennifer Valinski. Uh, Jim That one I know. Good evening. Please bear with me. I got stung by knees this morning and uh the benadryil is really kicking in some.

[laughter] >> All right. Well, [clears throat] we will start your time now. >> What was that? Um I know that uh this board is not really the one. Uh I'm here to talk about the comprehensive plan and its effect on myself and my neighbors. And I know that this board is not really so some of the things that I say when I say this board I'm really talking to the people who have initiated and have enacted on u the comprehensive plans. First would would be uh why did the committee start the first meeting with pictures and drawings of the east side of five mile line road showing apartments and senior housing um highintensity residential.

It seems as though the conclusion uh was started at the beginning of the meeting um so that everybody already knew what was wanted on Five Mile Line Road before any meetings ever took place. Um, the next question I have is how will reszoning the east side affect the people and property values of the people on both sides of the street? Um, next question I have is where did these decisions come from? uh it seems it has been very very difficult to find out why a decision is made and who made it when in fact I went to all the meetings that I could find out about and these decisions were not made by the committee themselves but yet in the end they were made.

Have you talked to anybody on either side of Five Mile Line Road to see if in fact they want to be reszoned? And if so, why have you or why have you not? Why did no one on the committee uh speak uh about when the town engineer at the last comprehensive plan meeting said uh do we have any problems going forward with the map that we are proposing for the east and the west side of Five Mile Road? and nobody said a word. I was very disappointed in that. This is the third try for the east side of Five Mile Road to be reszoned. Um I talked to my neighbors, the ones that live there and they don't know anything about it and yet I understand that there are quite a few people who are interested in having it done, but they are developers who do not live in the neighborhood.

the map that is proposed um for my property uh good tree farm uh to reszone it to residential would literally take millions of dollars of value, force me to close my farm and my daughter to close their store. Um maybe we could support business growth instead of just tree growth as part of the new plan. I've grown plenty of trees in this town and I would also like to do uh some business in this town if I could. Um who could possibly think it is a good idea to take one of the best pieces of commercial property in the town of Webster and reszone it back to residential and say that it is is to the good of my family and to the good of the people of this town.

I do not understand how it can even be considered. I have asked for zoning help uh in this town from my friend Ron Nesbbit for many times. I asked town flity on many occasions. I've asked Alex on a couple of occasions. And I'm hoping that this board will do the right thing in the end. I think there are a lot of good people in this room and I hope that they make good decisions and I thank you for your time and I thank you. >> Thank you, sir. >> All right, up next, Ronet. >> I think I just came to Warren that number 14 has been taken off tonight. >> Yes, it is. Okay, I'm going to have to change board.

Um, first off, I like to agree with Jim on the comprehensive plan. Um, the last draft map did not have any LC prop LC2 property designations on the draft map. Somebody made that decision. Nobody discussed it with Jim. And how would you like to find out that your land was just devalued from LC2 to residential? And that's what happened. and it's not right. It wasn't right for Jim. So, having said that, I'll just go back to the workshop tonight. There's a few points I want to make. Um, first of all, you heard uh Adam talk about $4,500 that the study rooms rooms are being used. That's fantastic. My problem as supervisor, your problem now is they don't charge for those rooms.

You're going to see on tonight's tenative budget, I already looked park uh park and wreck brings in $440,000 a year in revenue. And yet the library brings in zilch. My HOA is going to have a meeting there next 23rd. HOA, we got money, but we're not even paying 25 or 50 bucks to clean up the room. Come on. [clears throat] You got to start charging a fee for those programs over there. The library is not totally free. Another point I like to make is Adam was talking about he's negotiating with the land with owner. Are you kidding me? Why isn't Paul Why isn't the supervisor sitting down and talking with the landlord?

There's no reason. I mean, nothing against Adam, but he shouldn't be negotiating. No way. Um, something else too that wasn't mentioned tonight was where's this building going? The rumor is it's going to park and wreck. It's not a good idea. Let me tell you why. Back years ago when I built uh when uh we're going to uh build the new Park and Wreck building, I told the Webster community chest that they were going to have to move out of this building because we're going to we were going to re uh remodel. Did two years and we built them two rooms out there, new park and wreck building. They had their own separate entrances and everything else.

the day we opened the building and they saw that they were so far out of town, they watched the community chest has never been in those buildings and to this day. We're making that move, but that's what it was. So, people are not going to like that way out there. You're going to have to work into that. Um Johnny had a good point. Who said 45,000 square ft? There's a lot of dead space over there. No, you can cut that. There's no doubt in my mind you cut that. Um, what else I have about it? Nope. Well, that I don't think I have anything else except that uh it's a long process to build a building, but I think they're out in front of this in a backwards way.

They went to the community first and that's wrong. They should have discussed it with you. They should have come up with a plan. Could have had some architectural designs done beforehand. Could have had some numbers done beforehand because $30 million bond with a revaluation coming up next year. Seniors get 3.5% COA in your social security. It's not going to cut it. And you have to remember one thing. A bond of 30 million is subject to a permissive referendum. And I can tell you right now, I went through two of them, got two turned down. I put up a $21 million permissive referendum for open space when everybody wanted it.

When the bond came in, they turned it down. Then they wanted a new rec center. So I put up a $30 million bond for this gorgeous thing. Guess what? They turned it down. So, a $30 million bond for a new library is subject to a permissive referendum, and I can guar guarantee you you will get one. So, be careful. Thank you. >> Thank you, sir. >> All right. Uh, up next, Desiree Moore. >> Hello. Hello. Um, I was going to spend a few minutes tonight speaking about something that's not on the agenda, but hopefully that's okay. Um, and I wanted to talk in support of a new library build. The Webster Public Library is uh really important to my family personally.

Um, and it's also vital for the whole for the last seven years. My family has used this library multiple times a week. My kiddo uses it to hang out on rainy days, find friends, look for new stories, and learn new crafts. Um, for me it's been an invaluable accessible workspace during inevitable power outages. Thank you, Jamie. Or when I just need a change of scenery. Book club is even the place where I met my best friend and where my husband found a rewarding job that allows him to support our family while staying rooted in the community. Um, so actually, I did some quick math and just by borrowing the 20 picture books a month instead of it's probably up to 40.

Um, our household alone saves approximately $4,500 a year in books. Um, multiply that, in fact, across our entire town. Nearly 200,000 annual visitors use the library's free public spaces, high speed, high-speed Wi-Fi, and quiet study areas. It bridges the digital divide for residents without reliable internet, and provides on tech tutoring for all skill levels. Furthermore, its volunteer tax program returns over 1.4 million in direct tax refunds to our community. money that goes straight back into the pockets of our lower income neighbors and seniors as a free service. Um despite this massive impact though, Webster only gets to allocate about half of what neighboring towns state raises and media.

And why is that? Because we're trapped in commercial lease. Right now, our programming relies heavily on the incredible volunteer efforts of the friends of the library just to get by. And worse, under our current lease, cluster, taxpayers, as you've heard earlier, are um financially responsible for building upgrades on property we don't even own. Taxpayer money builds equity for a private plaza landlord and not the town of Webster. Um to talk about fiscal responsibility, continuing to pour capital improvements into a building owned by a private company, I think it's the exact opposite of it. Over the next 30 years, we're on track to hand over roughly 22 million um in rent maintenance fees, and that disappears into a landlord's pocket instead of benefiting our community directly.

Um while a new build requires a higher initial investment, it's a permanent town asset. Just like we've heard before, buying a home is [clears throat] a smarter financial move than a renting apartment for 30 years, and owning our facilities is is the only fiscally responsible path forward. Once that construction is paid off, the baseline cost to run our library plummets, protecting Webster taxpayers for generations to come. Um, one thing that I wanted to point out while listening to Adam's um, presentation earlier is that um, it's a little confusing that one board member wanted more intricate plans without that initial commitment and some other board members wanted um, to figure it out in a few years down the line instead.

And I just want to hear my ad, I know he's not here right now, um, for all of his work on this and his commitment to what he believes is best for the community, even far far into the future, even into the future. Um, and I just want to stop paying a landlord and start investing in ourselves. Thank you. >> Thank you very much. All right, last here we have Monica G. >> I know nothing's going to make sense. >> Does it ever? [laughter] So, just give me a second just to get myself in order and well, whatever happens, it happens. Okay, stop the clock. I just say Oh, it's Monica from um Oh, tall birch trail.

I just to say that a couple >> You pull the mic closer to your >> Thank you. Appreciate it. >> Stop the clock. I'm getting started. >> Hard to say that a couple or a few of you will not take this personally. That's not the intent. that this is how some of you come across to others that are either here in person or view these town meetings on YouTube. The board comes across on occasion dysfunctional and at times antagonistic. Several people have approached me and asked me why there are members on the board that are continually opposed to and vote against agendas brought by the supervisor that will not cost the residents money.

some which would cost um some which would be costefficient in the long run and would benefit the town of Webster. I haven't any answer to give them except to reiterate what I've said in the past. Several members have an agenda of their own and need to take politics out of the equation and vote responsibly in order to benefit the town's growth. And no matter what Supervisor Skeleton puts forward, it will be voted against without good reason. I'm not sure if it's personal, but it sure comes across that way. Maybe it's how the supervisor enthusiastically approaches the subject matter, but his enthusiasm is coming from a good place, and he always puts the town residents before himself and wants the best for for all of us.

I get it, and I understand it because I get passionate about topics that I know will benefit my husband and me and go gung-ho into it. I also had approached my work enthusiastically and while doing so my clients liked it because they knew I was looking out for their benefit. To this day, those of you that know me know that I have no qualms expressing my passion and enthusiasm towards topics as I am expressing right now, but I'm keeping it lowkey. There are times one or two try to antagonize Alex. Most times are at the end before motion is about to be made to close the meeting. There will be a request for a round table and when Alex says no, the member pushes and demanding a reason why.

No means no and not always is a reason have to be given. Another time back in June, as soon as the residents left the room during a motion to close motion closing was the meeting interrupted to put forth a last minute vote to remove a flag from the flag p. This was not on the agenda and blindsided a couple of the board on and those of us that remain behind in the audience. These non-aggendered topics being put forth unexpectedly are nothing daunting them on YouTube. It's time to put politics behind you. Set aside your personal feelings and start thinking about the town and the residents. If you don't want to work together as a team to build a community that can be the envy of all other communities and reflects a town's motto that is written on the wall behind you where life is worth living, then perhaps you should look for another career, get out of politics and resign your seat so that someone can sit there and move Webster forward into the future rather than remain stagnant.

Examples of negative voting that I consider shortsighted and would have benefited Webster and the residents moving us into the future and be cost effective long term are the renewable natural gas project and climate smart community just to name a couple. Okay, this is where it gets a little screwy. I'm sorry. Um, if I'm understanding correctly, a vote is not coming up tonight regarding the new library lease renewal versus the new builds. Hold on. This would have been an opportunity for the entire board to do right by the residents and vote in favor um of whatever of the new build. Um it puzzles me why we throw good money into a winter when you can own equity and build on that.

In my opinion, it's a win-win for everyone and for Okay, I'm done almost to move forward and show everyone our motto is not just words thrown together, but words to live by that have true meaning. There's no excuse not to vote on a new library rather than continue postponing until we're all out of office. Um, I'm hoping what I said is taken construct as constructive and understand that this is not personal, but as a resident that pays an exorbitant amount in taxes, I want my town webs to work as a unit to make Webster where my life is worth living better. Thank you for allowing me time to speak.

And I still have some time over. >> You had uh three seconds. >> Okay. >> Trust me, we would have called it. >> I know. I know I'm not special. >> All right. >> And Monica, before you go, thank you for the spray tank volunteer over the weekend. That was a blast. >> Yeah. You know what? I owe you a hug. >> Okay. Wait. You know what? Don't let this happen. >> I volunteered. [laughter] >> I know. >> Jennifer. >> Yeah. >> Nobody else wanted to join me. I by the way I would have done it but um Russia so thank you. >> Yeah. No and I will say we raised almost $600 at $5 for free throws. So >> why is that you order one more?

>> All right. Moving on to regular town business. Uh we have two sets of minutes today to review. As last uh board meeting we were waiting for legal to weigh in. Uh they said everything is okay. So given the edits from Councilman Wagner for August 20th, I would uh move that we approve the minutes. >> Second. >> Supervisor Shadow. >> I. >> Councilman Ko. >> Hi. >> Councilwoman Wright. >> I. >> Councilman Hunter. >> Hi. >> Councilman Wner. >> Hi. >> All right. Um I have also reviewed the minutes from September 3rd. Uh and I would move that we approve those minutes as well. >> Second. >> Supervisor Sheldon.

>> Hi. >> Councilman Hunter. >> I. >> Councilman Ko. >> Hi. Councilwoman right by saying I was not here. Councilman Wagner. >> Hi. >> All right. Councilman Wagner, you had the honor of doing the first paperless process for these. >> I did. I did. I want to thank Paul, Karen, and Kim Department for all their work. It was a monumental task. I want to thank all the department heads and all the employees in town that were involved in this. It was a lot of work. Um I need to send the email to the board because I think I would really break the process into two pieces. One is how the finance team and the department headles handle this process.

They need to figure that out in the best interest of how they work. Completely separate is the board final control staff of signoffs. Um, UniCe has some limitations and challenges and we just need to discuss from a process control risk standpoint how we want to manage that the pros and cons because you know before we look at every single bill and work through the pie. Now we don't have a unified list to work through. You're kind of finding every invoice individually online. There's some things to think through as we go through that. I mean we got to balance time versus effectiveness. um you know, we only spend four hours every two times a month approving bills.

Um but we don't want to do it in five minutes and they kind of skip over everything. So I'll send everyone an email kind of letting them know here's how we went through, here's the things for us to continue to learn, evaluate, and figure out as a board. Um it's a new process and there's lots to figure out. So Jennifer, you're next month so we can chat as you uh as you go through. Yes. So with that separate piece, um again, thank you to the accounting team because they had to do so much so much work. Um Professor Grateful, I make a motion to approve the bills as submitted by the director of finance.

>> Second. >> Councilman Wagner, >> I. >> Councilman Kale, >> I. >> Supervisor Sheldon, >> I like to elaborate on on our prepaid warrants. >> No, no comment on the prepaid warrant. Then I will move that we approve our free paper warning submitted by the director of finance. >> Second. >> Supervisor Sheldon. >> I. >> Councilman Hunter. >> I. >> Councilman Ko. >> Hi. >> Councilwoman Wright. >> I. Councilman Wagner. >> Hi. >> Paul. Anything you'd like to discuss about purchase orders? >> No. What's on the purchase? >> Sorry. I want to make sure you get hurt here, but I'll move that we approve the purchase orders then as submitted by the director of finance.

>> Second. Supervisor Sheldon. >> Hi. >> Councilwoman Wright. >> Hi. >> Councilman Ko. >> Hi. >> Councilman Hunter. >> Hi. >> Councilman Wagner. >> Hi. >> All right. Budget time. Uh, obviously this is the point where what we would do is we would take the tenative budget uh as presented by the town clerk uh to make it the preliminary budget. We'll be subjected to a public hearing prior to the adoption of the final budget. Paul, would you like to uh talk your narrative on this? >> Sure. Yeah. This resolution is a formality, as Alex said, to make it the preliminary budget. There will be a public hearing.

I think it'll be on October 15th, uh, which will give the public a chance to weigh in and then there may may be a vote that night to approve it. But, uh, this year's budget, uh, the gross expenses are up about 3.2 million. Uh a lot of that is due to employee benefit costs and the debt service costs related to the various capital projects that we have in have in place. Um which really been going on since about 2023. The budget does include some contingent funds uh for the cost of employee compensation. Uh we're currently negotiating all three of the town's union contracts. Uh so we don't know exactly what the coal increase is going to be for 27 but uh we we think we have enough built into the budget.

Um we are utilizing a substantial amount of fun balance to balance this year's budget and to keep it under the tax cap. I think we for the 26 budget we had used about 6 million. For the 27 budget we're using about 7.8 billion. So that's basically the amount that's coming out of the town savings account to balance the budget. Um we are blessed with substantial fund balance at this point. So it's affordable. Uh it's not sustainable long term but uh the 27 budget it definitely works for us. So, the tax rates are should be about 576 uh for a town located outside the village uh versus 553 last year.

Uh the sewer rents actually dropped. We're going to be at about 200 $250 this combined capital charge rate and last year it was around 258. So, all in all, I think it's a good budget and u we'll send it out to the public hearing. Anybody have anything clarification wise? >> No. Paul, you've done a fantastic job of putting this budget together? Um there's a lot of discussion um around the budget with respect to breaking the tax cap and the 5-year outlook and um I I I appreciate very much the fact that you you've given us the information to make educated decisions. Yeah, I think you know, Paul, thank you for your work on this with the accounting team and I think it'd be good, Paul, if you can let the board know every time you change the budget, you know, how much work is that for you?

>> Uh, at this point it does take a few hours because we're also getting the publication ready for the Western Today magazine. So, it changes multiple uh narratives, uh, charts, graphs, and other articles that are going to appear in the magazine. So, um, yeah, when I made the last changes, it was a good good chunk of my day. >> I appreciate that. One of the things that you know those when someone else you don't do their job, you don't understand how much work it takes, >> right? >> So, that was a comment like it must not take him long. Like, I'm pretty sure it takes them a lot of time. >> Change one number, it blows up everything >> to flow things through.

So, Paul, I appreciate that. Um, it's not quick and so I appreciate that. But also, I think as a board member, like like you said, Paul, we're using the highest amount from the reserves ever. This is the highest budget ever before the final union numbers. And legally, we're allowed to do that. We're allowed to set the budget even not having numbers that make up 60ish% of our budget in there. It's legally allowed. It's also from a timing standpoint. So, I recognize that that this is a what's called a tenative budget and preliminary, but still has some numbers that won't be determined until maybe 2027.

All we can say is we're aware of that. >> Correct. goodness, we can't we're allowed to do it. It's doesn't always make sense that you can approve a budget with large numbers that are not yet done, but I should mention one other number we're not entirely sure of is the the increase on our health insurance. >> We're not going to know that for about two weeks, but I think I build in plenty of margin on that one. So, >> are we all set with the New York State retirement benefit numbers now? employee buckets. Yeah. I mean, they're up substantially. New York City retirement is up substantially year to year.

So, >> that was a big chunk of what we had to deal with. >> Yeah. So, thank you for the time, Paul. >> Yeah. All right. With that, I will move to approve the 2027 Town of Webster tenant budget as presented by the town clerk for the purposes of making it 2027 town of Webster Preliminary Budget, which will be subject to a public hearing prior to adoption of the final 2027 final budget. >> Second, >> Supervisor Shel >> I, >> Councilman Hunter, >> I. >> Councilman Cahill, >> hi. >> Councilwoman Wright, >> I Councilman Wagner, >> I. All right. Now, as said for the public hearing, um, for those of you I know in the past and Paul and I discussed this earlier this week, people wonder why do we hold a public hearing and then historically would able to vote the same night on the budget.

Um, and I found out that the reason is so that we can make sure that everything is published in the Webster today to give as many people eyes as possible on this because the Webster today goes out to every Webster resident. Um, so if that does occur again this year, if we cannot push it to the 1st November board meeting for the actual vote because we do want to hear from every resident, it is not any reason nefarious. It is solely because we want to get as many people eyes on this budget as humanly possible. Um, and with that, I would like to move to set the public hearing for the town of Webster 2027 preliminary budget for October 15, 2026.

>> Second. >> Supervisor Shield. Hi, >> Councilman Wagner. >> Hi, >> Councilman Ko. >> Hi, >> Councilwoman Wright. I Councilman Hunter. >> Hi. >> All right. Up next, we have the town's credit card acceptance and processing policy. And Councilman Wagner, thank you for catching a few things, including getting the wording in there that town employees are not to write down credit card numbers. >> Yeah. And probably the most important thing in there that is a huge, huge no no. It's easy to do, but yeah, I mean, I will confess I enjoy reading things. Um, and this is a, you know, one of those things to read and get right, but great job on the team together.

And I think Paul, to your credit, recognizing different departments have different processes and providing them some flexibility, but still ultimate oversight is important. >> That's right. Um, we actually have four departments, the town clerk, parks and wreck, and library. So, we thought it was a good time to shape a policy around it, not only to protect the data, but have a procedure in place in case that data is compromised. So, >> thank you for the effort. >> Good catch. >> I still talk a little later, but you said you enjoyed reading. >> Yeah. >> It's not an apple, sir. >> It's a page [clears throat] turn.

>> Yeah. [snorts] To each his own, John. Right. >> I know. I just had to >> Well, that's like in in a library board meeting or the times they ask like what's your like favorite thing to read or what are you reading, you know? mail had like these books, fiction, non-fiction, and I was like, you got contracts. >> Yeah. >> Okay. All right. With that, I will move to approve the town's credit card acceptance and processing policy. >> Second, >> supervisor. >> Councilman Kill. >> Hi, >> Councilwoman Wright. Hi, >> Councilman Hunter. >> Hi, >> Councilman Wagner. >> Hi. [snorts] >> All right. Up next, uh, is sign engagement letter for arbitrage calculation.

Paul, do you want to give a brief overview of what arbitrage is? I know we've discussed it here previously, but um just for transparency sake, do you want to give us a brief update on what this is? You >> um I guess projects we're able we were able to invest that money and earn interest. And when you do that since you're borrowing and investing to do a calcul guidelines has to be paid back is 2023 how much if anything needs to be paid that it's coming in about 45 on 23 through 26 I think it's a no-brainer the firm >> yeah I'm glad to see it's also >> it how much is it for the fee what do we pay the vendor >> you know even if that reason myself to do So >> I will move PFM as internal revenue service >> to fix the engagement letter but we can >> All right.

We can do that. Uh >> Paul is 29. >> Yes. >> I think about 7500 because there may be some extra amounts extra uh services that they need to provide >> not to exceed $7,500. >> Second. >> Councilman Wagner. >> Hi. >> Councilman Ko. >> Hi. Supervisor Sheldon. >> Hi. >> Councilwoman Wright. >> Hi. >> Councilman Hunter. >> Hi. >> No. Thank you. >> All right. The organizational meeting uh with the director of finance survey is the only thing that they're doing the legislative priorities. Um and some home preserving home rule get the state to lobby for more of what's the cost of this budgeted for because I did not >> Kim has gone through just forational purposes.

100%. >> It says >> milk protein. >> That's when you approve something after the conference when something >> previous conference correct you already mele I would start his representation from the beginning of the election. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> All right. So let's say K started a month ago and today I said number of come that meant we start he started his representation the month before and so Alex's appointment would have been when the application started. >> Yeah. >> John here tonight so we refer you because that's a minor thing anyway. So >> we just saying that >> you you started that. Go ahead and finish it.

>> All right. So I will make a motion a resolution that supervisor Sheldon be appointed delegate to attend the annual time. I might even try and say whatever that is again. >> Second. >> Councilman Wagner >> I. >> Councilman Taylor. >> Hi. >> Supervisor Sha >> I. >> Councilwoman Wright I. >> Councilman Hunter. >> Hi. >> All right. Moving on item number 10. All right. So this is uh just to declare the town board's intent to be a lead agent for the purpose of conducting uh the state environmental quality review for seeker for the comprehensive plan. Uh this is not making any sign any determination of significance.

This is also a type one action and Josh this is the most uh scrutinizing action we can make for this. >> Yes, type one actions require the highest level of environmental review. Um, and I I have no additional questions. I think that it's good that when we go forward, we're being proactive about this and looking at this from every lens possible. So, >> yeah, I question. >> Yeah, I reviewed this ear earlier in the week and um I I had a question of Josh with respect to the conclusion and um you know, he sent out a clarifying email. So, I appreciate that. >> Yeah. Given where the plan is at and changes being made and concerns raised by committee members, is this the right phase in the project to do this?

>> So, what this essentially does is it just starts at a 30-day clock. Um, so if the board would approve this tonight, we would send out letters to interested and involved agencies. Um, this action is just declaring that the town board intends to be the lead agent for conducting seeker. Uh there is no expiration clock associated with starting this process. So uh we're just trying to get some of the procedural steps uh in motion. >> Okay. And I appreciate the schedule you sent out of of future meetings move forward. Is the committee on board with those dates tenatively? >> Yes. I'm waiting to hear from a couple remaining committee members to respond back, but by and large the majority of them uh have indicated that they are available uh for their next two steps of the process.

>> And then final question kind of tangential. Do you think at some point the board might need to allocate additional funds to finish this project? >> Uh well, it depends on if additional meetings are required for the public. Okay. >> Thank you. All right, good question though. And with that, I will uh make a motion to classify the comprehensive plan update as a type one action and to declare the town board's attempt to be a lead agent for the purposes of conducting the state environmental quality review act, also known as seeker. >> Second. Supervisor Shell >> I. >> Councilwoman Wright. >> I councilman Ko.

>> Hi. >> Councilman Hunter. >> Hi. >> Councilman Ryan. >> Hi. >> All right. Up next is grant administration management with collars. This is not related to the comprehensive plan. Uh what this is is it was previously known as fast New York which was the grant funding source and has since turned into the Webster transportation infrastructure project. Um this is where the uh extension of Bolter Parkway out to 250 um is coming into play. Um this we knew this was going to be a uh very complicated process. Um that we are splitting the cost with the village. Um it has [clears throat] proven that will you know we're going to need some additional funds for the grant administration and management from me and Kimber.

But uh Keith is here to answer any questions uh based for if anyone has any clarification. So, this this you may have already addressed this and if I'm being redundant and I apologize, but um is the is the village of Webster contributing to these costs at all? >> Yes, they they've approved um a similar almost exactly the same proposal. >> Yeah, that's what I just want to confirm that. So, thank you very much. >> Yep. Yep. I just like to qualify Valter is being extended to Salt. >> Okay. Valter Salt and then we take dedication >> Yeah. and Chyota. to 50 just just to clarify. >> Yeah, I think overall this is a continuation of the current project going on.

It is approved by the village, the town, multiple peoples and groups. This is not any kind of like, you know, we're pushing someone in the rug. There's many people overseeing this and there's many signoffs. >> What's the amount? >> Good question, Jennifer. >> The resolution is not to exceed 35,000. Mine doesn't see that. >> It's in section 35,000 right here. >> Project and an amount not to exceed 35,000. >> It's even highlighted. Look at that. >> Jennifer, did that. So I will make a motion to approve the super supervisor to sign the contract with Calier's engineering and design for additional services associated with the Webster transportation infrastructure project uh grant administration and management in an amount not to exceed $35,000.

>> Second >> James Councilwoman Right. >> Hi. >> Councilman. >> Hi. >> Supervisor Sheldon. Hi, >> Councilman Hunter. >> Hi, >> Councilman Wagu. >> Hi. >> Now, we very rarely get a resolution involving the Justice Court. So, Councilman Cahill is the liaison. >> Do you want to talk about the JCAP program? >> Yeah, I don't know. I know that money from the state or is it made available on an annual basis? I talked to Judge Stler about this of up to $30,000 um to the the town as a grant application, we can ask for items up to 30,000. Maria, if I mess this up, please correct me. Okay. Um, so the judges got together and um put together a list.

So, they're going to apply for the grant to purchase these. Um, and next year we'll have a deeper conversation to try and bring that the items that we need in the court closer to that f $30,000 ask. >> Do you want me to tell you what they're asking for? >> Yes, please. >> John, >> I'm just so excited for the question. >> Okay. So, um I met with the court, the justice and the clerks and um listened to their wish list items that they wanted, >> right? >> I helped uh create the um helped get quotes for all the items. So, the items that we are listing as what they're asking for, >> right? um filing cabinets that lock.

Um rolling cabinets that make it a little bit easier for them to bring all the files they need to. >> Security film for the windows in the back. Um and uh security cameras uh into the front of the court area um out here parking lot. >> Um uh new chairs for the uh people in the courtroom as the judges chair. So, it's a a little haphazard, but a lot of it goes along with their security audit that they had done of items noted that would be beneficial. >> That's perfect. And I just want to comment on you personally because the more interaction I have with you and other department heads um the more I've learned the magnitude of your responsibilities and thank you that you do so much.

It's incredible. And this is just one one additional thing that you're responsible for. And I don't think people are really aware. >> The ceiling of 30,000 is >> they had to remove, >> right? >> So,000. >> Oh, I haven't got camera. >> That's kind of pocket. It's just money's already been allocated. Correct. >> So, 627 Justice Court request of the M >> Councilman Hunter. >> All right. my favorite thing in the world. My standard few questions here why we should not approve this bill process that we go through with the for these build permits is is is very responsible and I like the fact that we um highway department signs off on these and everybody takes a good hard look at it.

I do want to add a bit of a shout out to the the the property owner themselves. you know, when this first started, um, you'll see the application started in November of last year, and they've been very receptive, um, with them and McMahon and their engineer, Mcmal, come up with really what I feel is a very responsible approach to the challenging drainage concern that they have there. This is in an area that we've had other drainage issues. And really this this property owner has been very willing to work and I would say do want to do the right thing. So it's a it's a huge shout out to to the collaboration that we've had with them over the last 11 months.

So yeah, they've been very patient. >> Great point. Thank you to them, too. >> No one else has a question. I will move to approve the fill permit for >> Oh, do we need to do a secret for this? You do. >> Yes, >> it's a it's a >> type two type two. >> Type two. >> Okay. This is the we the town of Webster find that the fill that this is a type two action uh for the fill permit for 1636 Lake Road uh will have no environmental impact. >> Is there a motion? >> Yes. Second. >> Supervisor Sheldon. >> I. Councilman Kahill. Hi, >> Councilwoman Wright. >> I, >> Councilman Hunter, >> I. >> Councilman Wagner, >> I.

>> All right. So then I will move to approve the fill permit for 1636 Lake Road. Second, >> Councilman Cahill. >> Hi, >> Councilwoman Wright. >> I Councilman Hunter. >> Hi, >> Councilman Wagner. >> Hi. >> All right, last item on our agenda here. Uh, is about Gene O'Connell Grants. As we're talking, um, I did some asking around the town hall today about how this came about originally and, uh, you guys, uh, was informed that originally, uh, town clarity had sought a professional bandwager in-house. Uh, the thought was not very cost-effective. They then looked to hire, [snorts] uh, outsource it, which would then make it so that there would have to be a percentage return that we would pay them based on what they bring in, which is a lot of money.

Um and they went out and they found Gene O'Connell who has done absolutely terrific for us and Josh I believe we have the uh percentage that we gained from them. >> Yeah. So just a quick um summary of where we are to date. Um we [clears throat] have applied for a total of 15 grants. Uh eight have been successful. Three we're still awaiting um the answers on. So, as of right now, we have a 53% success rate for each application that we've submitted. We do expect that number to go up uh once we hear the results later this year from some of our uh current applications that have been submitted. Um but yes, when you do the math uh for what we've expended over the lifetime of our relationship with him uh and what we've actually been awarded through grants for every dollar spent by the town, we're receiving approximately $11.73 back.

uh which if you calculate it in in percentage terms we're getting an 1173% return on our investment and for those of you not aware it's not just a hey we want to do this they uh G works hand in hand with Maria and her office uh they meet with department heads every single year and they say okay what are you guys looking for and they do a deep dive into grants that are available but Maria since you are literally really working with them hand in hand. Is there anything you want to add to that? >> Um, also that uh Jean is an invaluable resource. She's got 35 years experience working with municipalities.

Um, she knows what grants work for municipalities. It's a we're a little bit of a a unicorn in the grant world as most are written for nonprofit agencies, um, community groups. Um, those are the traditional model. So Jean has been a great source in finding grants that work for us and our various needs from the uh department has. So I want to thank her. She's done great. >> Yeah, I think we can all appreciate the work that June has done. And you know, as I brought this up today, you know, my question has nothing to do with whether or not she's done a good job. This is a professional service contract for the town where we're spending taxpayer money.

And it's always good to think about is this the we get another quote? Is there another option? And also with this, is our future grant writing level going to go up or down? If it's going to go down, if we're going to submit less grants in the future, then renegotiating this with her in her level of service can be a good idea. If it's going to go up in turn, that can also be a conversation to be had. So, I have no problems and I'm not trying to say anything about her prior level of service or ready to return. Simply, as any contract is up to renewal, in my personal view, our job as a board is to think through, hey, should we evaluate other options?

should we get other quotes vendors or at a minimum to renegotiate the current contract because it's not in an hourly rate and it's a flex. So I have no problems with the work she has done. I also think if we're going to continue going forward, we should evaluate that like any other business. I think about that and then if she's really available to help us as best needs, I think when other solutions come up for grant options, we should be looking with her. Um the town has partnered with Webster Health and Education Network, a drug-free community coalition. Uh they have a town board liaison, which is me.

I've been a member of that for many years. Other drug free community coalitions are partnering with towns to find grant funding. Their mission is to start off the force use of drugs and alcohol by kids. A very worthy cause. They asked the town to look into grant options with Webster because other programs are looking at other towns. You know, that didn't go anywhere. And if we're going to pay her a fixed fee, I think we should continue to presume I'll presume all options on top of it. So that's my stance on why I raised the question. Professional service contract, I think we should look into it, put off a bid, and consider other options.

No problems with the service performed in the past, what we've got. Just my view on the due diligence of the board when it comes to spending. >> I I don't have a I don't have a problem with that either. Um, I think that in the past we've had arrangements with specific um, entities that have gotten comfortable and the price seems to be going up for general services. And it's always good to look at competitive bidding at a renewal of a contract. Um, when I was mayor, we had we were paying a certain amount of money to one copying company. Um, and and people did not want to look into an alternative because of the name for the company that we were using.

Well, after a year, I'm like, well, let's let's get a competitive bid because other municipalities had been using a different brand. And sure enough, the bid came in significantly less than what we were paying. And from your input, um, Okonnell and Associates are doing a fantastic job. Um, and it's a little bit late in the game to try and change this with the what I would ask the board to consider is rather than a two-year contract, consider a one-year contract if that would be reasonable. So, I'm open to input. Are we do shorter even or give time because it's coming up the end of this month, you know, do we just ask for a a two-month extension to renegotiate this?

I mean, there are no that's that's fine. >> It's my understanding. Are there any grants currently being written in the moment >> written at the moment? No. >> Managed. Yes. >> I mean, if there's a time crunch, once again, we should do our due diligence as board members for can we save money for the town? We want to fund the library. you know, we sometimes need to save pennies here or there where we can. >> I I will also point out that in this contract though, we do have the option of cancellation or without cost. So, we kind of look at it as well continuing on, >> but I think it's hard to renegotiate once you're in the term, but then just the threat to like you can just cancel in 10 days.

Yeah, it's an unpleasant negotiation tactic to take with someone like >> If I could quickly interject because um Paul and I about a year ago were approached by another grant firm and we entertained them. We met with them and they gave us a quote and Gene was actually >> that is correct and and that's great. I appre I appreciate you bringing that to our attention. >> Anytime that something like that comes up, I mean Paul and I work together on this, >> right, >> to make sure that we are getting the best deal. So I do understand that you know it's not necessarily about her report card. It's about the the value and the investment from the taxpayers which I am one.

>> So I also take that quite seriously to make sure that we are getting the value we're putting in. I would argue in the niche world of grants too, there's a significant value in the um I guess the longevity that Gan has working with us and understanding how the town of Webster works and its flow, what projects it has, what wish list we have. Um and I do think that that's a huge benefit as we look into things like grants for the library and other you know projects the um >> the dog kennel. Look at the congressional air funding that she applied for for us. We've gotten further than we've ever gotten with that.

We've had engineering firms apply for that on our behalf for the sewer department because they were a consultant on that project. >> Again, this is this this is not a question of her credentials or what she has put forward. This is this is a this is a a discussion about cost, right? And my question would also be, has anybody tried to renegotiate this contract to a lower rate prior to this coming for renewal? >> Um, no, we have not because her price went up $100 um per month from her original contract. >> Yeah. And on a professional, that's the hard thing to judge a professional service contracting and Kyle talk about this like there's always some squish in there.

if she's still happy. That that tells me she's quite happy with the arrangement if she only went up that much because that's not even the price of inflation. So, you know, once again, to the town's benefit, I'm a corner of trying to like look into our options. >> And just quickly, in regard to the number of grants that we're writing or will write in the future, you have to remember there's certain grants that are not offered annually. Some are offered in like a three-year cycle. So the TAP grant that we've reapplied for that we're waiting for. We have to wait three years to be able to reapply for that.

So there's always going to be some fluctuation in the number of grants that we can apply for based on the wish list of items from our department heads and departments of town. >> Yeah, I can see over the past couple years the fluctuations. >> Yeah, it's based on availability of the grants. >> Well, is this something that we want to have further discussion about and and consider rescheduling this? If we reschedule it, the contract runs out and we don't have a grant writer and she has the leverage. >> I mean, why would she get a 30-day extension then from that? >> Is do we know if she's even amenable to a 30-day extension?

>> I mean, I think she would be if she's happy with us, you know, like I tell you on my side when clients question the price and want a new quote, if they're questioning my firm and saying, "Hey, I'd like to read it and discuss this." I don't lose them as a client. I have no interest to like tell them no. And I tell them, "Absolutely. give you a 30-day extension. You can opt out anytime you want and let's talk about this. That's generally they don't want to lose out on business if she's happy. >> But there is no guarantee to that. Um I think I I'm certainly in a place I'm ready to to move forward on this, Jennifer.

I'm not sure how you feel. Um but I think there's an aspect of importance to pushing this through tonight. Um so that we can keep Jean on some of these grants that we have pending as well. Well, I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you, but I would most certainly like to see it at the minimum instead of a two-year contract or one year contract. I don't know if that's something you consider. >> I don't know if that's something that we have the ability to negotiate on the stand without for confirmation. Well, >> I guess we vote on the contract itself. If we can't do any adjustments, we can't reschedu.

>> I mean, did you do it quickly or did you do it right? You know, >> yeah, >> but I think you're making assumptions on on how to do it right. You know, there's a world in which we seek negotiating with Gene and she says no. We seek negotiating and looking for other vendors and they have a higher price and then we end up with this gap of coverage or we piss off, you know, an important person that's worked with us. Um, I don't know that that's logical. >> Well, I think in hindsight doing this 10, 15, 20 days ago would have been the right thing of figure it out before we get here last minute. So, we had no option now.

I think that's reasonable for sure. Um, your question came up at 8:20 last night. So, some of these pieces for sure should have been hashed out um with these questions. You know, I I was on board with moving forward with Okonnell um and the firm there. So, I I didn't have these questions, but you did approach the board last night at 8:20. >> Correct. Yes, it takes time between your day job and just to ask questions. I do ask questions occasionally. I rarely see you ask questions, Nick. So, I think it's a little disingenuous to call that out saying I should do it sooner. >> Ask questions as well.

>> You're assuming that I I don't ask questions to anybody within the government. That's that's where my questions are. I don't communicate to the board. So, I >> you don't communicate to the board. >> Holy cow. Gret >> Here's how I feel. Jean has done a great job. Um there was a competitive bid um back it was a while ago and Jean was the most Why are you looking at me funny? >> I don't recall >> this was a competitive bid. I remember when I was running for office there was a bunch of consultants that came and presented to the board >> and Jean was one of them. Jane was selected that the price of $4,000 a month for a grant writer is extraordinarily competitive because many competitors many grant writers will take a fee plus percentage of the the grant that they're writing and we just heard that the return on the investment is $11 or over $11 for every dollar.

So she understands the town. She's been involved in the list of projects that um that was built wish list for 2026 and genuinely I I would find it hard to believe that we could get this for much less than $4,000 a month. So for that I'm I'm in favor of moving forward and continuing with with Gene O'Connell. Again, this is nothing to do with the competency of what she's doing or >> the product that that she is putting putting out. >> I think everybody's on the same page. >> Y >> we agree she's doing a great job. >> I think at this point though, somebody needs to make a motion. >> I'll make that motion.

So, I make a motion to authorize the town supervisor to sign a 2-year renewal agreement with the J. Okonnell and Associates Incorporated for professional services of grant consulting. for proposal writing in the amount of $4,000 per month. >> Second. Councilman Hunter. >> I. >> Councilwoman Wright. >> I. Supervisor Shaone. >> I. >> Councilman Cahill. >> No. >> Councilman Wagner. >> Nay. >> All right. I just want to clarify one thing. All right. That I probably I'm reiterating. It has nothing, my no has nothing to do with what the competency and the product that she's put forward. I just think before the next contract is this contract is up, we owe it to the taxpayers of Webster to once again get competitive prices.

Fair enough. Uh we are bringing back the round table tonight. Um, all board members with the exception of John K. Hill are limited to three minutes. John, you have to have three minutes. Exactly. We will tell you to keep going until you have. [laughter] So I I I I kind of already had my round table with the comments that that I made with respect to a a project that was taken off the agenda um that I had taken a deep dive into all week and again to complement our different departments, their involvement, >> especially the building department and the integrity um that that our people have. Okay?

Because this could have gone south very easily given some of the pressures that were coming from a different level of government. Um, and there's a way to do things right and there's a way to do things wrong. and some of the pressures in my opinion were being put on our building department and also some of the board members including um the town supervisor that that I didn't think were quite fair. Um and I'm not afraid to [clears throat] point out certain things that need to be done properly. And with the backing of our building department, um I I I'm very confident of the integrity of our building department.

So I I don't want to get into fingerpointing. Um there was a lot of pressure, a lot of very difficult lot of conversations u that took place, but in the end, I think that we have done the right thing. All right. Since we're on that side, Councilman Hunter, >> you know, I don't have anything today. I just appreciate our our town. I appreciate the folks that work in the government and it is um government's complex. It's you spend the entire time in nuance. Um and it's hard to kind of see the big picture when it is that complex. So it's important to thank the folks that work in our town. Um there's a lot of them doing a lot of hard work, not getting paid as well as they could elsewhere.

Um so I just want to share that. But thank you guys for everything you do. Counciloman, right? >> Uh, a couple of things. One, along the lines of what Councilman Hunter was saying, I would like to thank the highway department. So right now the highway department isn't at uh maximum staff capacity and they are working very hard to keep up with the demands for the town and they are making a special run or several runs over the next couple of weeks to pick up the tree and brush and limbs from the tornado and the storm damage. I don't think has there ever been a tornado in Webster before? I think this was the first tornado that has ever touched down.

I was out of town, thank goodness, and it hit 3/4 of a mile from my house. My husband was out feeding the cats, and he said he had never been more scared in his entire life. And now I know why. Um, so I'm thankful I missed it, but for those that had to live through it, nobody got hurt, and there's some property damage that's being taken care of. And I want to thank the highway department for the extraordinary work that they're doing to help the community. And that is right um right ahead of leaf pickup which very quickly is going to turn into plowing. So um lot of lot of hard work going on there.

And then Garrett brought his shirt. The u >> Will I see you at the mud run? >> You will see me at the >> Are you going to do the mud run? I'm going to do the mud run. I'm trying to get my daughter who's coming in from out of town to do it with me. Nice. >> But we'll we'll be at the mud run although I haven't signed up yet and I don't have a fancy t-shirt, but I will definitely definitely be there and participate. And I hope uh a lot of people from the community come down and uh and and attend and take advantage of the parks and wrecks department and facility, especially for those who haven't been.

It's a great opportunity and a great excuse to do something fun and check it out. >> And with that, the mud run. I brought my t-shirt. I've gone for the past couple years. It is amazing. Parks and rack this Saturday starts at 10:00, goes to 1. It's only five bucks. And if you're thinking there's probably not mud there, it hasn't rained that much. Parts and rack makes mud. They work in the next couple days. They make mud, they make slime, they make obstacles. Like, you will be impressed. It's a mild course. It's not a race. The farming will be there. >> It is truly remarkable. I encourage everyone to come out and enjoy it.

>> Saturday. >> Saturday 10:00. Starts at 10:00. >> Yeah. >> Goes to 1. You can do as many laps as you want. >> Often they have free hot dogs, snacks, vendors. >> You say snacks. >> Hot dogs. Do you like hot dogs? My phone, >> John. He said free snacks. Free snacks. >> Okay. >> Also, um in the village this weekend, there's a fall kickoff and classic car show in the afternoon the village. Please check that out. >> That's Saturday too, right? >> Saturday 2. >> What time? >> 4 to 7. I think the car and the car show is earlier. I think Main Street will be shut down maybe from 12:30 on. Um there's probably a bunch of other events.

You know, once September hits, there's events everywhere. So, please just chill online. We'll do our best to share with you, but just enjoy the fall. It's a great time of year. And thank you to the town everybody for their hard work. >> Everybody turn. Uh I do want to bring to everybody's attention right now one of the things that I know a lot of people are asking is what's with all the power outages. Um I've been in talks with RG& over the last several days. Uh the helicopter that you may have seen was the lineman actually investigating. As of right now everything does appear to be uh contingent from the storm.

So they are still working to repair um damages done [clears throat] by the storm to some of the stations. If there is an update, the county is working with RG, so we can push out if we have a strong update, we can push out something there. But for right now, everything does appear to be storm related. >> Thank you. >> Um the bills, last I knew, we're up 14 to zero. So I make a motion to adjurnn. >> Second. >> All in favor? I use.

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