WEBSTER ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS MINUTES
Webster Town Board Meeting Building 1002 Ridge Road
July 14, 2026
7:00 pm
ABSENT:
Michael Short
Corrine Volo
James Spampinato
Chris Centola
John Accorso
Stacie Damelio, ALTERNATE
John DeMarco, Attorney
Katherine Kolich, Planning & Zoning Secretary
Erika Corsi, Planner of Community Development
Good evening and welcome to the Zoning Board Appeals meeting for the July
14, 2026 meeting. We will have open forum for the public to speak, and we will be limiting the
time to the public to five minutes so please keep that in mind. We have two tabled matters and
three scheduled matters for tonight. What we are going to do instead of doing the tabled
matters first we are going to do the scheduled matters first tonight and then once we are done
with the scheduled matters we will move over to the tabled matters. Though I don’t anticipate it
happening the board does have the right to end the meeting by 10:00 pm and I don’t anticipate
that. If we do that, we will table the remaining items. I do have proof of publication here for all
the items.
Call Roll/Pledge of Allegiance
Summary of Application Outcomes
TABLED MATTERS
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1. ZONING INTERPRETATION-139 CARACUS
DEBBIE RICE
Zoning Board of Appeals found that Mr. Artuso’s interpretation of the Town Code
was correct; the Webster Solar Garden did not require a special use permit, as it is located in
an Industrial District
2. WATERVIEW APARTMENTS PHASE 3-NORTHWEST CORNER OF
WILLOW POINT WAY AND NAUTICAL MILE DRIVE
LEGACY DEVELOPMENT CO.
APPLICATION TABLED TO THE AUGUST 11™ MEETING
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SCHEDULED MATTERS
:
3. ADDITION-1249 MILLCREEK RUN
PETER PANKIW
APPROVED AS PRESENTED
4, FENCE-1084 BRIGHT STREAM WAY
RYAN TRENKLER
APPROVED AS PRESENTED
5. SHED-785 SOMERDALE DRIVE
RANDY POTUCK
APPROVED AS PRESENTED
(Erika Corsi, Town Planner presented a PowerPoint Presentation for each application and
read into the record)
Located at 139 Caracus Drive (AKA 750 Phillips Road, AKA
1460 Caracus Drive) SBL #065.02-1-40.11. Applicant Debbie Rice is seeking an interpretation from
the Zoning Board of Appeals to determine whether the Xerox Solar Farm should have been reviewed
under an Industrial Use Permit or a Special Use Permit in accordance with Sections 155-6, Section
350-22, and Section 350-101D (1) of the Code of the Town of Webster.
Appearing before the board was Mr. Sean Hanna. Good evening and thank you for allowing me to
speak. This matter as the chair suggested was on last month’s for consideration. It was adjourned
and tabled so that we could do some additional exploration on the issue of the statute of limitations.
As the Zoning Board of Appeals is probably aware, the code provides that appeals must be submitted
within 60 days quote and after the filing of any order, requirement, decision, interpretation, or
decision or determination of the code enforcement officer.
It was suggested at the last meeting that the board might want to consider the possibility that Mr.
Artuso’s announcement that the town board would be considering sending to the Planning Board an
application that was for solar panel development that was to be treated under an industrial use permit
only. That does not raise statute of limitations issues for three different reasons. First, that
announcement was a fallacy. It was a nullity. There was no application in Mr. Artuso’s possession.
There was no application before the board. So, there’s nothing in the announcement that was correct.
Now, secondly, because there was no application before Mr. Artuso or before this board, there wasn’t
an application that I could review either. Now, if I’m to challenge the propriety of any application,
I have to be able to read it. Otherwise, I mean, the application could have been treated perfectly
legitimately and appropriately. I wouldn’t know until I read it. And if you’re going to start the clock
before I have the ability to read an application because we don’t even have one, then Mr. Artuso is
unlawfully shortening my client’s statute of limitations. Simply can’t do that.
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Thirdly, nothing in an announcement of a public meeting of the Town Board constitutes the defi the
filing of decision or an order of the law enforcement officer. As Mr. DeMarco suggested at the last
meeting there’s nothing in the town’s procedures that technically satisfy that requirement and I have
used and I urged the board to consider an email that was sent by Mr. Artuso back on April 1°. The
only reason I did that is because it does explain his rationale for treating it as an industrial use
application. And we did file our appeal within 60 days of that. So, if we’re using that as a starting
point, then we've satisfted the statute. But in truth and in fact, the statute hasn’t even...the clock
hasn’t even started running because that also does not constitute the filing of a decision in order
relative to his decision was simply an internal email. So, untess the board has some questions with
respect to the statute of limitations issue that was brought up at the last meeting, I’d be happy to very
briefly review the merits of our appeal.
So, I guess...thank you for that. I guess ultimately the question to the board is
ultimately an interpretation of the zoning, right? That’s ...that was really the first point that came to
this board. At the last meeting there was question of timing and if it could even if it should be here
in front of us. I think honestly the board has the ability to take a look at and make a determination
on the merit of the interpretation and what was interpreted by the town. I know I had an opportunity
to go through documentations. And though the document that was presented on April has some
clarity, so do other documents. I would say in my opinion there’s no smoking documentation that
provides an earlier date so from my opinion, I think it would be more prudent for this board to move
forward with making a determination on the merit vs determining the timing of everything. I guess
I want to hear from everybody else. What your thoughts were if you had chances to review the
documents and if you feel differently.
I do tend to agree with you, but I just want to make a point of clarification. Because
I did pull up the document that we had discussed would was the resolution made by the Town Board
and the July 2025 Town Board meeting. There was actually an application submitted. So, I’m
just....[ just want to correct for the record or make sure facts are out there for the record that when I
pull it up right now from the town’s website, there is a June 30" application from Monte Solar that
was part of what was on the town website for the entire Town of Webster and anybody else that
cares to look at and it appears very similar to the information that you had also provided that was an
amended application from August. So, there is something that was there. It’s not like the Town Board
acted based on nothing.
Thank you for the clarification. The Town Board had a partial application that did
not even include a site plan. So incomplete was the material that was submitted to the town board
that the Town Supervisor was not even aware that it was being placed on top of a hazardous waste
site. He thought and this is in the record when he referred it to the Planning Board that is was being
built in a field somewhere. They had a very brief skeleton of an application. Nothing nearly even
approaching legal sufficiency for an application.
Typically, and I could be incorrect but typically I believe at the beginning stage of a
project this would be the information received and granted and I’m just doing it from my engineering
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perspective from an entirely different industry but the application that’s here is a rough site plan with
a recommendation to send it to the Planning Board, which is what any project would do within the
Town of Webster and then the details are filled in before anything is finalized. Final plans typically
are not the first and I could be speaking our of turn. For a project of this size, the first plan you see
is not the plan you end up with. You start with this is what I'd like to do, and then you fine-tune it.
The information that I’m Jeoking at and granted I’m just pulling it up today from your comments
has rough dimensions. It has the rough layout of the solar field. It has a short application. There’s
information here that’s too small for me to want to read on my phone, but there’s several pages so
there is information. It’s preliminary information probably.
And the Town Board accepted it as an application, I guess, was the question. Was
this just, hey, can we come by and talk about it or was an application made, formwork filled out.
It is a formal application. .....
That’s what I’m saying. So, it’s a formal application. So, the fact that it isn’t ready to
be built based on the information there doesn’t lessen the fact that an application was made.
And it doesn’t change the direction that the board is going to go with, but I just want
to clarify that it’s not as though the Town Board acted in total darkness. Based on the documentation
at least that’s available to me.
Yeah. I mean, and that’s what I saw as well, right? There was documentation out
there. It’s not...things aren’t being hidden from the public. It’s out there and the process is playing
out as should. So, thank you. Any other questions? Like I said, I’d rather....I think moving forward
with the basis of merit whether the town presented this project appropriately because of right now,
the town ....the site is an industrial site The town looked at this, and they looked out at zoning code
155-6, which is the approval standards for a large scale solar energy system. And a large scale solar
and it states large scale solar energy systems are permitted through the issuance of a special use
permit within all residential districts. The site in question is not an industrial district, so I guess my
question to the board is, does anybody feel that this needed a special use permit and the way I look
at this based on 155-6 a special use permit was not required.
I would agree. I came to the same conclusion.
Mr. DeMarco and Michael Short speaking.
The site that it is on is an Industria! District. If I misstated it that’s not what I meant
to stay. Other questions?
I concur with what you’ ve said.
Before the board makes up it’s mind on that point, the board really has to consider
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how the state courts require the Zoning Board of Appeals to view the zoning code. And you have to
understand, and I apologize, you’ re at something of a disadvantage because, and I’d encourage you
to tum to Mr. DeMarco for assistance but there are laws of statutory construction and interpretation,
and you need to sort of understand that to understand how the courts are going to view this thing.
First specific language in the statutory code always trumps general language and, in this situation,
he have two we two potentially applicable provisions of the code. One is industrial use and doesn’t
say anything about solar panels says something about public utilities but for reasons I won’t go into
it, this doesn’t qualify as a public utility. There isn’t any question about that. So, we have an
industrial use section that says nothing about solar panels developments, and we have a residential
section, excuse me, a solar law section that applies to residences that is very, very specific about the
development of solar farms. And it gives a whole bunch of criteria that has to be met. Now, the
courts have been very, very consistent in taking... making sure the zoning boards of appeal view the
zoning code as a whole. So, even if there’s specific language that applies to a residential district that
it does is not contained in the industrial zone. If the industrial zone impacts a residential area, then
you need to look to the more specific language that is a matter of statutory construction that state
courts simply require. And for special use permits, we looked to guidance in the Webster Town Code
and it says that they should be used for uses having some special impact or uniqueness which requires
careful review of their location, design, configuration, and spectral impact to determine against fixed
prescribed standards the desirability of permitting their establishment on any given site. There are
uses which may or may not be appropriate in a particular location depending upon a weighing in
each case of the need and benefit against the local impact and effect. That’s what the Webster Town
Code says and if that’s not the appropriate criteria for a special use permit, I don’t know what it is
and it’s not just my opinion, one second, it’s not just my opinion, Montante , when they submitted
the application and, in the letter, I showed you specifically said that they were applying for a special
use permit. They recognized that a special use permit is and was required. Not just me, the developer
did as well.
Thank you. So, I appreciate that. I know I’ve had the opportunity to go through the
code, and I’ve had the opportunity to take a look through the industrial code as well.
Mr. Hanna, Can you, in support of that argument that you’re making that the specific
versus the general, what is it between the two statutes that you believe are in confliction with each
other?
Well, for a special use permit, it requires that the Planning Board and the Town
Board give a great deal of consideration to many factors that are not required in industrial use. For
an industrial use permit, it gets a list of activities and says, “Okay, if the activity that’s proposed is
similar to that, it’s fine. It’s in an industrial area. We don’t really need to worry about it.” If it’s a
special use permit, there are a whole bunch of factors and considerations, some of which I just read,
that have to be considered by the Planning Board, have to be considered by the Town Board and
they weren’t. And Montante knew that those were the questions that needed to be asked, that was
information that needed to be provided and that’s why they acknowledged in writing to the town
board and to the Planning Board that they needed a special use permit.
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So, but you agree that the Zoning Board would have to find in order to agree with
your specific versus general construction argument that there is in fact a conflict between 350-22
and 155-6.
No, I don’t think there’s a conflict that is required. I think that as I said at the
outset, more specific language...if you have specific Janguage that’s applicable and general
language that’s applicable to a given application, the specific language trumps the general language.
So, it doesn’t have to be a conflict per se, there just has to be...the specific language has to fill holes
that the general language does not.
I respectfully submit, I think that the argument that you’re making is accurate when
there is a conflict and if they can be read in harmony with one another then I think the board has the
right to interpret it obviously as they deem, it should be applicable. So, I think the board, I think you
correctly stated the law when there’s a conflict. If the board doesn’t find a conflict and they can read
both statutes in harmony with each other, then it can make a determination based upon the
applicability of the statute, not that one excludes the other.
I respectfully suggest that it ....the law provides that if where one statute requires
more, you have to give more. You have to meet the higher standard. There’s a second and I don’t
know if we want to say....
I’m not an attorney and all the jargon going on back and forth has got my head
spinning a little bit to me honest. I don’t want to say. ....I’m a....I read things plainly. I looked at
155-6 I mean, that’s pretty clear language that a special use permit is required in a residential district.
It is silent on requiring a special use permit anywhere else. That’s how I’ve read it. I’ve had the
opportunity to go through 350-22, which is industrial use as well and again, in certain sections in
there believe that it’s allowed within there. Is it explicit? It is not explicit but the way I have read
it, for me it’s pretty clear, I guess with that, I’m going to open it up to the board with questions and
there’s a lot of things going on with the code and everything else and back and forth. So, questions
from the board?
The only question I have is that if he’s....if the applicant is concerned that certain
things that might come out or be pertinent to the to the design and moving the project forward that
they’d have a better chance of getting what they needed out of the application process. The Planning
Board is most likely going to consider those issues anyhow. Anything that’s required under a special
permit, it’s not like they’re wearing blinders necessarily cuz it’s not a legal issue if Planning Board
says, “Have you considered rotating the project or moving the driveway here or there?” So, my
thought is that any of the applicants concerns that somehow, they’re getting less of a review then
they think they need or want. I don’t know if I find that valid because like I said the Planning Board
would I think naturally look into all those items whether or not they were tasked to by code. Did
that make sense?
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It did. Other questions or comments from the board?
I well, I just ....l have one question for the applicant that I guess I’m assuming is a
typo throughout the application, but I just want to make sure. Under most of your sections, you’re
referring to a section 151-1 for a section within the code that is not part of the current code. I could
not find it historically and I’m assuming that that’s just a typo, but I guess I just want to confirm that.
Probably so. I’m sorry.
Okay. So, you’re actually looking at it and should be 155-1 through 155-10.
Correct.
Other questions from the board? Mr. Hanna, do you want to make one last comment?
Yes, there’s one more point that I'd like the board to consider with respect to the
application. The classification whether it should have been special use or industrial use is only the
first issue. The second issue is whether the town board approved the same project that the planning
board approved and it did not.
I don’t think that’s for this board as....I don’t think that’s our...
Yeah, that’s accurate. The issue is the appeal of Mr. Artuso’s refusal or failure to
put the other special use permit before the town board and that I think it stops there. You may be
accurate in the point that you’re trying to make, but I don’t think that issue is before this board.
Oh, there are several issues that I’ ve not raised before this board that are in fact in
the article 78 and they would be prosecuted there if necessary. However, I think that this board is
entitled to determine whether the permits that had been approved were of the same project.
I think....1 think you know that goes more to the arbitrary and capricious standard
that the supreme court judge will look at this. Our duties here in the appeal capacity that you’re
asking us to look at here relating to the notice and the recommendation. I don’t think it goes further
than that. Otherwise, we would really be stepping into the shows of the supreme court. We don’t
get paid enough for that.
Thank you. So, I guess I'll bring it back to the board. For questions or any other
dialogue after hearing everything that Mr. Hanna had presented plus any ...all the documentation
what we received over the last month or so. ..any other questions? Anything else we want to discuss?
Let’s be clear. We have Mr. Hanna’s application which is a notice of appeal, and I
believe a memoranda law or the equivalent. I know all the board member ave that. I have a series
of documents that are entitled. I think it’s a letter from ...Montante to Josh Artuso or is that
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something that I had?
That was the additional information.
And then the board has looked at the resolution from July of 2025...it has reviewed
chapter 155 which is the energy chapter. It has reviewed the industrial, I’m sorry
350-22.
Correct zoning 155-6 in the corresponding sections under the town code. Obviously,
it’s heard oral argument from Mr. Hanna. My comments, I just want to make sure that the records
clear as to what you’ve all reviewed before you make any determinations. Anything else that I’ve
left out?
Besides the application, the short EAF, ....
There’s photographs. I would encourage the board to address the merits of the
application. You certainly have the right to make a determination as to whether the notice is timely.
If you decided that it was not, you don’t have to get to the merits. If you decide that it is, you get to
the merits. I would only caution you that you know when you look at the law 267A and it references
that each decision made by an administrative official charged with enforcement of zoning laws and
it talks about filing and then it goes into what constitutes notice. I think Mr. Hanna raises some
colorable claims as to the ambiguity of whether that notice is sufficient. You know, the very nature
of notice in that context of a staff person at a municipality who doesn’t have necessarily official
orders, but is corresponding by email, memos of law, directives of the board, and whether or not that
is sufficient notice, it could be interpreted a different ways by different folks. So, I think it dangerous.
Not saying that you can’t but I’m saying it’s fraught with the potential that it may come back to you.
And I guess that’s the question. If ....let’s say we went down that road and said it
wasn’t timely, it goes before...I suspect it would go before the New York State Supreme Court. At
that point they could tum around say it was timely and kick it back to us anyway.
And come back to make a determination. So, that’s not a reason to not to do it but
that certainly is a reason why you may want to consider if you feel you have a sufficient record and
sufficient information and you’re positioned to make a determination on the merits. I don’t see any
reason why you should not If you want to short circuit it and wait for that order, if that order comes,
you can put it off for another day. My sense of this is that based upon the record that exists now, I
can’t imagine that coming back around another day, you’re going to have anything further to
evaluate.
Yeah. So, I mean, again, with what I’m hearing, the grey area of the timeliness of it
of the notice, to me, it makes more sense to make a determination on the merit. I think we have more
than enough information presented to us, both in writing as well as, verbally, by Mr. Hanna, to be
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able to make that determination. I guess I’m looking to the board to agree or disagree.
I think we...we’ve heard it a couple time now and you know, depending on how
much you may have individually looked into it. I think there’s nothing that would presented
differently that would be enough to move the meter at this point and time other than just like.......
Let’s consider it based on the merits of the interpretation and see where it goes: from there.
Does everybody agree with that?
YES
This is new to me. So, is it just making a motion to make the interpretation as I see
and let the board decide from there?
Just make sure you make it clear which interpretation you’re putting forth.
Okay, let’s see. So, I make a motion for:
A zoning board interpretation regarding 139 Caracus Drive with an SBL # 065-02-01-4-11 whether
let’s see......whether the Xerox solar farm should have been reviewed under an industrial use permit
or a special use permit in accordance with sections 155-6. Sections 350-22 and section 350101 DIof
the code of the town of Webster. I make a motion that based on 155-6 which reads of the town code
(AS SHOWN ON THE SCREEN)
Large-scale solar energy systems are permitted through the issuance of a special
use permit within all residential districts, subject to the requirements set forth in
this section, including site plan approval. Applications for the installation of a large-
scale solar energy system shall be reviewed by the Commissioner of Public Works
and his/her division heads or agents or designees and referred, with comments, to
the Town Board for its review and action, which can include approval, approval
with conditions, or denial. The Town Board shall refer site plan approval to the
Planning Board prior to granting any special use permit. [Amended at time of
adoption of Code (see Ch. 1, General Provisions, Art. |)] B. Large-scale solar
energy systems are permitted.
That plan language indicates that a large scale solar energy system can be installed in the industrial
use site without the special use permit application process.
Just add, the also known addresses. ...since we’ re being all legal here... 750 Phillips
Road and 1460 Carcus Drive.
And we do not find any conflicting revisions of the code. So, sorry, say that one
more time Chris.
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Just add the other addresses just to....750 Phillips Rd, 1460 Caracus Dr. even
though the SBL is the same.
Alright
Be diligent about our...
Do I need to restate that?
NO
Do we want to poll each board member for their comments or additions to it.
I’m good with that. Do you want to start?
Okay. Well, I just....I want it to be understood that every member of this board has
considered this. There’s been a lot of information before us. There’s been a lot of sections of code,
alot of prints and a lot of it. It’s not a decision that I think the board makes lightly, but based on
the wording of the code with which the town is required to live within...
Bound by
Bound by. I don’t see where we could come to any other conclusion. The industrial
use is permitted with respect to looking at section 350-22. The process is very similar regardless
of how it goes through. It goes to the town board. It goes to the planning board. It gets analyzed
and revisited and rehashed. Then goes back to the town board for approval. I....based on how the
solar code is written, I only see the special use permit required for residential uses. Large scale
solar and an industrial use is not deemed as specifically being required of a special use permit.
And it does actually go into the next section that says, large-scale solar is permitted in commercial
districts just simply by site plan review through the town board or the planning board. And it just
has to comply with all setbacks.
I agree with Corrine and would add that even though there might be a little more
scrutiny given a special use permit based on a residential district, I have full faith in the planning
board that they would have looked at any conditions required by the residential district for that
import them into their review and final decision-making process for it. I mean that’s what they
are there for and I think they do a generally good job of it.
I agree with what’s been said already. I don’t know how I could repeat everything.
In agreement also.
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Can I get a motion?
Second.
Before we move forward, if any public would like to speak for or against, please
come up.
Geraldine Breschard at 632 Pine Lakes Trail: (NEVER SIGNED IN I have been to almost every
meeting there has been regarding this solar project. I heard a lot tonight and a lot of rational and
reasoning. The one thing I did not hear is how it is going to affect the people that live right on top
of this project. And I have not heard the word toxic which is what that industrial permit is allow
you to put a solar farm on toxic waste. My home is adjacent to that, and I won’t suffer the
consequences nearly as much as some of my friends back there. Some homes a that are being built
by a builder that’s right now being built and some of them are going to be about 200 ft from this
solar panels. And they don’t know that. Nobody has told them that. And you don’t expect that the
builder is going to tell them that. After all, he’s out to sell homes. The problem I’m having here
is, you probably know from my voice, I’m not from here. I’m from Long Island. I moved up here
and had a custom home built on a beautiful piece of property. Was not aware that Xerox existed
behind me and it was solar waste. It wasn’t bad enough, that I built a house there, but I think at
that time there was surrounding farms all around there. The town went ahead and let a builder go
ahead and build homes there so close to toxic waste. I’m sure the builder didn’t know that a solar
project would be funded by New York state and no cost to Montante, no cost to anybody, but that
the residents would suffer. There’s a lot to be considered here. And I really, really hope that you
take into consideration that a special use permit could have listened to my concerns. My concerns
are, I don’t want that in my backyard, 17 acres of trees are going to be cut down for this solar
farm. I thought Webster was all about green space. That doesn’t sound very green to me. We
have lots and lot of wildlife back there, that live back there. They’re the only things that can live
in toxic waste. And you’re taking that part away from them and a lot from me. So, when you
consider this, make sure that you consider the people that live around it just like you consider the
people with the cell phone towers that are being subjected to this. I came here eight years ago to
Webster because it reminds me of back home. Back home has no elbow room. And now you folks
are allowing these ridiculous things, and those solar panels are ridiculous where they’re being
put. Solar panels are great. I’m for clean energy. I think they’re great, but not where you're
putting it. Please consider the residents. Just this one time, consider us. Do the right and let it get
shut back and do a real assessment on what this mean to the residents there. Thank you for your
time.
Thank you, appreciate it. Does anyone else want to speak for or against the project?
No, okay, J guess back to the board. Should I restate them or what was already stated?
No, if the rest of the board...EVERYONE SPEAKING AT ONCE.
I will second it.
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RESOLUTION 26-0028
VOTE:
Michael Short made a motion Located at 139
Caracus Drive (AKA 750 Phillips Road, AKA
1460 Caracus Drive) SBL #065.02-1-40.11.
Applicant Debbie Rice is seeking an
interpretation from the Zoning Board of
Appeals to determine whether the Xerox Solar
Farm should have been reviewed under an
Industrial Use Permit or a Special Use Permit
in accordance with Sections 155-6, Section
350-22, and Section 350-101D (1) of the Code
of the Town of Webster to and the Zoning
Board found that Mr. Artuso’s interpretation of
the Town Code was correct; the Webster Solar
Garden did not require a special use permit, as it
is located in an Industrial District which was
seconded by: John Accorso.
Mr. Short AYE
Mrs. Volo AYE
Mr. Spampinato AYE
Mr. Accorso AYE
Mr. Centola AYE
WATERVIEW APARTMENTS PHASE 3: Located at the northwest corner of Willow Point
Way and Nautical Mile Drive. Applicant Legacy Development Co., Inc is requesting AREA
VARIANCES to allow a front setback of 18.7’ where 75’ is required and to allow a single-
family district buffer of 38.5’ where 100’ is required in association with the construction of (6)
buildings plus a community center (total of 56 units), each 2 stories in height on a proposed
13.15-acre parcel having SBL# 093.06-3-64.11 located in an MHR Medium High Residential
District under Section 350-14 of the Code of the Town of Webster.
Appearing before the board was Chris Nadler and I’m general counsel for MarkV Enterprises.
It’s nice to see you all again and nice to be back here with you all. I am here for a renewal of
some area variances that the project was received from the Zoning Board of appeals last year.
They’ ve now expired or about to expire. We were set for the Zoning Board meeting agenda last
night, but I understand last month, but I understand there was some notice issues, so we got
bumped here and that was obviously fine with us.
Waterview at Willow Point Phase 3 has received site plan approval from the Planning Board
and it was just was renewed two months ago, I believe. We received certain area variances
related to our driveway length from this board and we’re proposing 56 townhouse units to
complete the existing town home development at Waterview off of Bay Road. We own and
operate 62 of the townhouses currently and there is a homeowners association in the front of the
project with 35 units, some of which MarkV owns and operates. So, what we’re requesting is a
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is a renewal of our variances for a front setback of 18.7 ft where 75 ft is required and a single
family district buffer to McEwen of 38.5 ft where 100 ft is required. These setbacks match the
existing driveway setbacks, front setbacks throughout the town home development in both the
homeowners association and the apartments for rent section and are necessitated in large part
because of the unique shape of the parcel. There’s roads on three sides of this parcel and given
the topography and the location this is...everything is a front setback, so we don’t have any rear
setbacks really. Either way, we would want the shorter front setback because people don’t want
a 75 ft driveway. We don’t want to build it, and our residents don’t want to live on it, and the
town doesn’t want us putting that much asphalt right here in a sensitive environmental area.
As you can see from our PowerPoint the character of the neighborhood won’t be affected. This
is a variance first of all that this board has granted in the past and it matches the setbacks on the
existing town homes and the driveway distances. We will be as much as 85ft between the
proposed town houses and the house along McEwen. Which is similar to where we are now
with the existing town houses. From a substantiality standpoint again, these are the same
setbacks that we have existing and we’re proposing the same driveway distances. Granting the
variances will reduce runoff because there’ll be less impervious pavement and it will increase
green space that will have a positive impact on the environment. From a self-created difficult
standpoint, as I mentioned, this is an odd, shaped property with difficult topography. It is
surrounded by roads on three sides; The property is encumbered by easements and utilities.
Not just for us. There’s a sanitary sewer line that runs through it that feeds the adjacent part of
the parcel on the other side of our existing town homes so it’s not a self-created difficulty.
Nothing has changed since this board did grant the variances a year ago. The conditions in the
neighborhood and the community remain the same. Our proposal remains the same and
therefore we would ask that the board renew our variance.
Thank you. Any questions from the board.
Ido. I can’t....1 don’t have a site plan, so I’m a little bit confused. Where is the
18 whatever feet setback? Is it on McEwen?
So, roughly it’s all the driveways are about that. What the town instructed us to
do when we filed this variance request two years ago probably was take the shortest front
setback which was 18.7ft. We have similar setbacks, that the setback next door is 19.2 ft. The
setback next to that is 20.4 ft as an example. So, the 18.7 is the smallest and I believe as you
were looking at it, it would be on the southeast corner of, or which is Willow Point Way and
Maritime Drive. It’s one of those driveways. But the general answer is they’ re all about that
distance.
It doesn’t....within your development, the setbacks aren’t bothersome to me.
What is bothersome to me is that along McEwen because directly across the street you have some
very nice single family homes and what you’re proposing to me is that it is not in character with
that neighborhood particularly because it’s so close. I mean going from a 100 feet setback to 18,
I think it’s rather significant.
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Oh, sorry. I misspoke. While the setback is 18 feet of the driveway. The driveways
Are 18 feet to the property line. There’s then, and I’m ballparking here cuz I’m a lawyer, not an
Engineer, but there’s, I believe, 20 feet of right of way before you hit pavement of McEwen
Drive.
If you can zoom in onto McEwen Drive. Building 4 the one right in the middle...
can you zoom in. It’s 59.9 feet from the building face to the edge of McEwen Drive. So, still to
your point, not 100 foot setback, but it is a 60 feet from the edge of the road, which then there’s
right ways and other things there. So, it looks like 41.8 feet from and I’m assuming that big fat
black line is the property line, is that correct?
I believe that is correct.
So, it looks like 41.8 feet from the property line and then 38.5 feet to the building
to the left and that was 54.7 ft building to the right.
So, if you drive by the property earlier today, our trees, you know, it’s an overgrown
parcel, our trees come right to the edge of McEwen right now.
Well, that’s a mood point. They’re all disappearing.
Yes. No, I absolutely no. My point is the property line is not actually where out
trees stop. The property line is 10 — 15 feet back from that which is where we have to measure
from...which is what Mr. Short just pointed out.
I guess I um....just to give a little bit of history of the project. The first time this
project was before the board, and I can’t tell you how long ago it was, this was an eight-story
apartment building and then that changed to I think two...three story apartment buildings that
were much long that what is permitted by code and then I think those were 90-100 units and
between this board and I don’t know if the planning board.... It was, the applicant was continued
go back try again, go back and try again so the last proposal that was brought before the board
was to make them two-story town houses to be more in line with the rest of the town houses
within that complex as well as more matching the area of the surrounding homes that are also
single and two story homes. So that’s just how we got here. Whether it’s right or wrong, it’s
expired. So.
What are the circumstances with respect to the expiration?
Well, the Town of Webster, variances automatically expire and there’s no renewal
process. So, the only way to get a renewal is by reapplying.
No, I’m sorry. My question is, a year passed by what were the circumstances?
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Why did I miss it? Well, in December of 2024, I had a heart attack, which was
about 3 days before the town mailed the notice. And so, I didn’t give it to my assistant to calendar
it. It expired and um, that’s on me. That being said, we are still waiting signatures on our site
plan approval. We do have site plan approval. The DEC is stalled in giving it’s wetland
jurisdictional determinations and so that’s why the planning board granted a renewal.
There were substantive reasons outside of your medical situation for the delay.
Correct, yes. But the reason we missed the deadline, well, I guess there wasn’t a
a deadline. We would have had to reapply either way.
Concerned about the deadline, just substantively what’s gone on in the last 12
months following.
Yeah, we’re waiting for jurisdictional determination from the DEC. A court out of
Albany told the DEC they couldn’t issue those determinations anymore. So, the DEC is in a
holding pattern and not issuing them. Which is frustrating to all the civil engineers in Rochester
who would like to get these signed and moved on.
Other questions from the board. I would like to open it up to the public. Anybody
wants to speak for or against?
There was a letter?
There was. Yeah, we’ll hear from the public first.
George Kugler at 449 McEwen Drive: I'm sort of kitty corner to the project there. I know Chris
quite well, Mr. Nadler. I have a couple of my letters, one of ones that I submitted prior to the
previous scheduled meeting, and I know there were several other submitted from other neighbors
on McEwen Drive that have numerous concerns. One of the, you know, points Mr. Nadler made
that this is similar to the existing town homes and similar setbacks, which I would respectfully
disagree with. Um, 56 units, if you look at the map, they have 62 units over their entire project
or the entire phase two of the project. This is on a much smaller parcel than what these 62 units
currently are on and you could not fit; you know 62 units of the design that they currently have
on this parcel. So, I would disagree that they are similar to what they already have built on that
point and the....... I also you know, I haven’t seen any elevation drawings of what these buildings
are actually going to look like. We have a 10 unit town home across, direct across from three
single family homes. So, you know, you’re triple the density in the same area that you currently
have. The setbacks that the town requires are there for a reason and that’s to provide a buffer
between the single family low density you know in areas and these you know higher density
projects. I would also say I know the project only now fits the acreage requirement by adjoining
two parcels that were previously separate. And as you can see from the site plan and the easily
90 % or more of the project is still on the original parcel that did not meeting the acreage
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requirements. So, while it’s within the uh technically within the law, it’s not necessarily within
the spirit of it. You know, they're skirting around those issues by doing that. And that he’s
talking about the three roads. Well, two of the roads that are on the project are their privately
owned drives. So, you know, those are their own construction. They can do it with those what
they want. And whether it’s self-created, this is their design. This is a pretty wide open lot.
There’s no reason they couldn't build town homes, fewer town homes with the setbacks that are
required. You know, situated differently on the property than they're currently proposing. He
also talks about the setbacks to, you know, my property on McEwen Drive, 449 next to the
existing town homes. Well, that’s not a face to face, front to front setback. That's a side, you
know, from side lot to side lot, which is much different than someone who is directly across the
street, you know, looking at it now this, you know, 56 unit complex that is all of a sudden being
put up on this, very compact area.
I apologize, you said you were what number?
George Kugler at 449 McEwen Drive. I would also ask if they, you know, I know part of the
issue with the original project or some of the projects that they’ve was whether they had an
easement through the private town home access from Bay Road, you know, and_I don’t know if
they have been able to negotiate that with the existing town homes. But now you're looking at a
signofocamt increase of traffic to this medium residential property through the single family, you
know, dead end road that only has seven homes on it. We've already seen a significant increase
in traffic over the last few years, you know, since they’ve posted that ...that is a private, you
know, the privately owned town homes have, you know, posted signage on that drive. So, I
would, you know, hope a lot of those would be considered. I know I’ve heard in the planning
board and such they talk about stretching the rubber band and how far we're willing to go in
granting easements and what, you know I know they say that these are supposed to all be
considered on an individual basis but at what point you know do we set some sort of precedent
to you know for other developments that we’re having, or you know cutting these requirements
by half or 34 of what the town code that was designed and approved for reasons are you know,
going to bypass basically. So, I think my letter and some of the other letters express most of
those concerns pretty well.
Thank you, I appreciate it. Any questions from the board?
George Kugler at 449 McEwen Drive: Just a quick question, I haven’t...I don’t know if the
application has been updates at all, but I don’t believe there was an elevation drawing. I mean,
I think that’s very important to be actually visually interpret what this project is going to actually
look like from the perspective of these single family homes.
There wasn’t an elevation drawing for the planning board?
We don’t know.
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There have been multiple elevation drawing submitted to the town, including for
this application. It’s going to look like a townhouse. If we haven’t seen them, it’s going to look
like townhouses and very similar to the existing townhouses that are right there.
(everyone speaking)
And let’s make it clear that you’re in your nonofficial capacity.
I just have a question in regard to the private drive, the Nautical Mile. The
private road, I’ve driven down a number of times especially in inclement weather when it snows.
And my concern is Emergency vehicles having access to the buildings that are right along and
are not on either side of the public roads. I do know that personally that road is often not plowed
and it’s often very dicey and very hazardous where a number of people don’t even do down it.
This is Williow Point you’re talking about?
No, nautical mile drive behind the one building that’s a two story. So, I’m just
saying there that I know that when it comes to the wintertime many people don’t even like going
down there because it’s more treacherous than an access.
I am going to need you to state your name.
Stacie Damelio.
Where does Nautical Mile.
Here’s Nautical Mile.
Wait, no, that’s Maritime.
EVERYONE SPEAKING AT ONCE.
It’s listed in the plans as Maritime Drive. It’s listed in our GIS system as Nautical
Mile.
And for my clarification, that’s a private drive, not for through access of the town
homes. I’m confused.
The town Fire Marshal I believe has required that that be for through access for
emergency vehicles and school buses and the like. It is used without....we’ve not had any
objection in I don’t know, a half a dozen years probably to anybody else using it. There’s multiple
points of access to this entire development. So, there is through access there as required by the
Fire Marshal of the Town of Webster.
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Has the Fire Marshal seen the current layout that was approved the last time?
Yes
Because I know there used to be the fire chiefs of the different departments used
to look at the plans just to verify that they can actually get a fire truck and access to all sides of
the building unless of a concern with the two story perhaps that if you can have a multi-story but
I just want to make sure that we do still consider emergency vehicles.
Just to clarify, these plans haven’t changed, correct, from when they were approved
previously.
That’s correct. Thank you, Erika.
So, if I recall correctly there were some conditions that we put on this last year.
If I remember correctly.
I sent you copy of the approval from 2024 via email, so you should have it. And if
you don’t, I have a hard copy here.
I don’t know if this applies or not, how does this since the approval has expired,
ow doe is fit within the moratorium that was just enacted by the town board for new
developments?
So, because this project received final approval already, they don’t fall under the
moratorium. It’s for projects that have not received a preliminary or final approval.
Okay? So, the variances expired but the final approval did not expire.
Correct. They received an extension of that approval I believe last week....
Right before the moratorium, I believe.
So, conditions that were placed on granting the variance the last time; building
facing Nautical Mile Drive to have an 18.7 ft setback; the building facing McEwen Drive needed
to be shifted by 2 feet to the south and driveway. So, the building to be shifted by 2 feet and the
driveway to be shifted, to be moved south by 5 feet to create a 5 ft district buffer and front set
back to the building of 43.8 feet. The wester 10 unit building fronting Willow Point Way was to
have a front setback of 38.5 feet and district buffer area of 30 and a district area buffer of 38.5
feet and increase of the total vegetation in the buffer zone and to work with the town to provide
buffering in McEwen Road right of way. So, I guess my question, all the conditions that were
previously presented no issues with any of those conditions then?
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No issues.
Just to note, the plan that is on the screen right now that’s October 2024 was not
the final plan that was approved. There was actually a connector road so that there were not six
different driveways out onto McEwen one entrance and all six of those are connected.
This came from your PowerPoint.
Sorry, I just pulled up the other one.
EVERYONE SPEAKING AT ONCE
That’s another feature that we did do to.
I think that was with the Planning Board that that came out of , if I remember
correctly.
Mr. Short, Can you please reread the setback from McEwen Drive again?
The building facing McEwen Drive shall be shifted south by 2 feet and driveway
shall be moved south by 5 feet. So, ...
So, well I guess the question for the applicant is we have in our possessions
drawings dated May 2026. Are these drawings....have they addressed moving those ....those
addressing those conditions?
Those were addressed prior to approve...... of receiving site plan approval from the
Planning Board.
Thank you.
Other questions from the board?
It’s not our role to do site plan approval, but....
But it......
I would have done this different, but it’s not our role.
Do you have any plans on developing the rest of the acreage that’s part of this lot?
Absolutely not . It’s a 45 degree angle down.
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I guess I want...would like to add that as a condition if this board does approve it
that there will be no further development, and do you think you can get it started within the 12
months that any new variances would be accomplished?
Yes.
What about DEC.
She just asked him that. If he doesn’t think so, he could say no...
I have talked to the owners about this, and they said they’re not building anymore.
It would be prohibitively expensive. This is enough here. This is a good solid, you know, this is
a good stopping part.
Michael, I think there was a letter that came in this afternoon that was supposed
to be read.
There are several... Do you mind. Can you pull up the letter that came in this
afternoon.
It doesn’t have to be read in, as long as everybody now Is...
Is there something specific?
No, I just didn’t know if It had to be read in.
No, no there’s several there and they are going to be part of the application.
EVERYONE SPEAKING AT ONCE.
That’s all I was concerned about.
Just mention that we’ ve mentioned the correspondence and they’ll be part of the
official record.
Is this the one you are referring to?
Is that July 14",
This is the only one that I got today.
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This is pulled up so you guys can read it into record or just reading it for your own
personal...
Can you go to the bottom of the letter for a moment? Okay, the board is seeing
the letter from Dorothy Fait which is dated July
14. Has everybody on the board had a chance to
review that letter.
Yes.
There’s been several others as well.
You should at least title them and the record seems like the board has
acknowledged...each board member that they’ ve read that.
I can pull them up or Erika you can. Whatever is easiest.
I don’t have the letters.
We received one on July 8" from David Guyer at 400 McEwen; June 2" from
Deborah Cuz at 446 McEwen;
Did you get the June 9" one?
June 9 I have minutes. I have a June 1* ...no, that’s chickens. George Cougler
at 449 in which the applicant is speaking now.
June 8" Charlie Johnson. So, I guess it looks like three online forms were
submitted. Has the board had the opportunity to read and take those into consideration as well?
YES
Other questions from the board? Can we have the other view up Erika. Thank
you. Appreciate it. I guess if there’s no other questions from the board, I’m going to make a
motion. I have to do SEQR again right because it’s a ......
And I want to be clear here that the board is not relying on any information of
which the previous approval was based. If these board members, you know, weren’t present at
the prior approval, I don’t know.
This is a new application is essentially what this is.
It is but I want to make sure that inferentially either from the applicant standpoint
or the board standpoint that they’re not relying on information that wasn’t specified in this
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application, but they are familiar with from a previous application and I don’t know and I don’t
know who was a voting member at that time.
The three of us were...
Four out of the five board members were here for the previous application and
the board member that was not here, is there any information that wasn’t presented tonight that
you’ re relying on to make any decisions here?
No, I’m relying on my own feels about the thing. It’s a question of when someone
buys a house, and they look at the property across the street, and I was on a planning board too,
so, I know it’s not a question whether you can’t build that there because your going to block my
view. I’m not looking at that. It was zoned one way, so it’s res...it’s unlit family residential, so
to speak. But they’re also looking at certain setback required. But if you know it’s going to be
across the street, but it’s going to be setback so far and I think that’s what you’re counting on. I
mean, if it was me living across the street, I wouldn’t be happy. And that’s the way I feel about
it. Cuz going from 100 feet to 43 is a big difference. And I just have a problem with it personally.
RESOLUTION 26-0029 Michael Short made a motion TYPE II
Chris
Centola.
VOTE:
Mr. Short AYE
Mrs. Volo AYE
Mr. Spampinato AYE
Mr. Accorso AYE
Mr. Centola AYE
Does anyone want to do findings? You know, the question is this request out of
character in the neighborhood.
(MICHAEL SHORT)
1. This request is not out of character in the neighborhood: We have two different
neighborhoods essential is McEwen which is essentially a single family residential and
then you have the multi-housing area and town home area adjacent to it. Being out of
character for the town home this project is not out of character for the town home
properties. However, looking at the single family residential across the street there is a
potential for this to be out of character. The presentation of these bring two story. The
intent is to make these look more characteristically similar to a single family residential as
evident through some of the site plans of the town homes themselves. They have proper
offsets to really present themselves as single family homes although there are 10 units per
building.
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2. There will not be a detriment created to nearby properties: Is there a detriment created to
nearby properties the argument could be made that there is not a detriment created to nearby
properties having a residential house, residential structure on a residential street is not
necessarily a detriment to nearby properties. These are residential not commercial
properties.
3. The benefit is not achieved by any other method: It is not achieved by any other methods.
The benefit of building on this site. There is already additional town homes on the site, so
it is a continuation of what is already on the site itself. Could other means have been able
to achieve it to provide the buildings identified on the site and due to the topography of the
site other means were not feasible in the layout. The only way to make it feasible to
eliminate one or more of the buildings.
4. This request is not substantial: It is not substantial and falls in line with the existing use of
the site to the, I guess that would be the east of the site.
There are no adverse physical or environmental impacts to the site or neighborhood: None
Is it self-created again, the site is vacant plot and reducing
the amount to structures would reduce some of the requirements due to the topography of
the site both all the way down to the water’s edge as well as the topography of the site
where the structures are identified makes it more difficult so that is why the structures are
identified and shown as they were in the plans.
7. This is not an undesirable change: Again, continuing the existing structures throughout and
is this request significant. The request is asking for setbacks on multiple frontages to
accommodate the new site; to accommodate the new structures to align with what the
existing town homes are built to the east of the site.
Sn
Does anybody else want to add anything into the findings ?
7 Make a motion for Waterview Apartments Phase 3 located at the northwest
corner of Willowpoint Way and Nautical Mile Drive an AREA VARIANCES to allow a front
setback of 18.7’ where 75’ is required and to allow a single-family district buffer of 38.5’ where
100” is required in association with the construction of (6) buildings plus a community center
(total of 56 units), each 2 stories in height on a proposed 13.15-acre parcel having SBL#
093.06-3-64.11 located in an MHR Medium High Residential District under Section 350-14 of
the Code of the Town of Webster.
WITH CONDITIONS:
© For the building facing Nautical Mile Drive to have an 18.7 foot front setback.
© The building facing McEwen Drive shall be shifted south by 2 feet
e Driveway shall be moved south by 5 feet to create a 5 foot district buffer and front setback
to building 43.8 feet.
© The western 10 unit building fronting Willio Point Way to have a front setback of 38.5 feet
and district buffer area of 38.5 feet.
e Increase of total vegetation in the buffer zone.
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¢ Work with town to provide buffering on McEwen Road right of way.
e Developer consents to no further development on the remaining parcel all the way down
to lake edge.
e In addition to the condition, the Zoning Board makes a recommendation for the town to
evaluate a traffic control device at Maritime Drive and McEwen.
I think I covered everything. Is there anything else? Any other conditions that I ate
Someone from audience asking for stop lights.
I’m not sure that’s within the board’s ...
EVERYONE SPEAKING AT ONCE.
Can we make that recommendation to the planning board because that’s...we
can’t dictate that but....
That’s not even a potentially a planning board issue. That’s a road. It’s a traffic
engineering issue.
No, they already received their extension for the site plan. So, once they get their
variances....
They are done and can move forward.
Correct.
The town can still require that.
Correct. The town can still review the plans and based recommendations that there
be a stop sign. But that is not something that this board can condition. But the town will be re-
viewing the pre-mylar phase so it’s still technically in the review.
Can this board make a recommendation to the town for that statement.
Yes
In addition to the condition, the Zoning Board makes a recommendation for the
town to evaluate a traffic control device at Maritime Drive and McEwen.
What is the new roads name? The connector road because I would also do one there.
I don’t know that we have a name yet.
And the new road to the west of the property in McEwen.
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I think that might just be an extension of Willow Point Way.
Anything else I’m missing? I need a second. I need a second from the board if the
board so desires.
Under New York State Law, variances aren’t required to be passed by motion. You
don’t technically need a motion. The recording secretary can at the direction of the chair call the
question. That being said, I think if there’s not sufficient votes, we may want to have discussion,
as I mentioned before, the application is identical and there have been no change in circumstances.
While it is a new application, there’s a standard in New York State Law that the arbitrary and
capricious standard where you would have to explain why something was different than when the
same board granted the same variances. So, at this point, I guess if there’s....... maybe you want
to talk to your attorney.
Well, it’s a different board, of course and as a matter of practice, we have always
had a second. I don’t think I’ve had a situation where we haven’t and that it’s gone to a vote. You
may be right. It would be a matter of first impression from me, but that may be in fact the case.
Pll second it.
Well, before I go any further, I guess my question is, do you want to table the
matter for further discussion?
Yes, thank you. I request that.
So, we’re going to table this matter for further discussion and go from there.
Well, I think if we’re going to table it, we need to tell him if we’re looking for
something specific or what.
Okay. Let’s clean up where we were first of all.
Okay, I am going to remove my second.
So, John, next steps from where we’re out right now.
So, there’s a motion and there is not a second. While we await my counsel on that
issue, the applicant is seeking to now table the matter. Is that accurate?
Yes please.
You can take that up if you choose.
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So as a motion to table the matter.
Yes
So, I’m going withdraw my motion for Waterview Apartments and make a motion
to table the matter until further notice.
RESOLUTION 26-0030 Michael Short made a motion to TABLE
APPLICATION UNTIL FURTHER
NOTICE of which was seconded by John
Accorso.
VOTE:
Mr. Short AYE
Mrs. Volo AYE
Mr. Spampinato AYE
Mr. Accorso AYE
Mr. Centola AYE
(THE BOARD IS PRESENTING ALL
SCHEDULED MATTERS
FIRST)
Located at 1249 Millcreek Run. Applicant Peter Pankiw is requesting an AREA
VARIANCE to allow a rear setback of 43.4ft where 50ft is required associated with the construction
of a 1,044 SF addition on a 0.41-acre parcel having SBL# 065.13-2-29 located in an R-3 Single-
Family Residential District under Section 350-12 of the Code of the Town of Webster.
As anyone is up at the podium please speak into the mic, we do use it for public
access and close captioning and everything else.
Appearing before the board was Peter Pankiw and my beautiful wife is Crystal. We have been
in Webster all our lives. Our Mothers live in Webster and I’m not sure you care about that stuff,
but it matters to me.
So, I’m looking to add an addition on the back of my house. Do I just go page to page, is that
the best way to do it?
Yes. I am just going to scroll through and discuss the character of the
neighborhood and your responses etc. with the board and then once we get to the end they will
ask any additional questions.
Okay, thank you. So, I’m asking for a setback of 42.4 foot from the rear of the
property line. The project location, so we have it outlined right there. The sides are fine it’s
just the rear of the property line is 50 feet. Do I have to go though this? What do you want me
to do, just read this?
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So, what the board needs to understand is how, if at all, this project, the
variances is going to affect the various things that are on here. So, you can read it. You have
already provided this information to the town so you can read it. We want it on public record,
and you don’t have to read it verbatim. You can present the information but ultimately the
information that you presented to the board and the town, through your application. That is the
information that we are utilizing and then any additional information that you have and want to
share like you’ ve been a resident your entire life Your family...... it’s information helpful to
the board to hear as well so, again, feel free to read verbatim but ultimately these are the items
that we need to understand is really what it comes down to but again you really don’t have to
read them verbatim, if you don’t want to.
Okay, thank you. The character of the neighborhood, if you look down at my
neighborhood almost every house has the information on the back and my house is where the
painters lived when they built the neighborhood. So, I have a very small 1,000 sf ranch and
surrounded by 2,000 sf houses. I did try with my contractors the addition work without a
variance but the roof pitch, it’s over my head, he can’t do it from the width. So, that’s why I
had to ask for the 8 feet.
The request is not significant. I am not sure what or if it is or isn’t but all I’m asking for is that
8 feet. No physical and environmental issues will result from construction of the addition.
And this kind of explains it, so I do live in a 1,000 sf ranch with beautiful wife; three kids; two
dogs and a wonderful guinea pig that....1f you want him, you can have him. LAUGHTER
It’s the guinea pig that put you over, right? LAUGHTER
Yes, although my seven year old wants a fish so that might happen. Moving, I
want to stay in Webster. That is where we are comfortable. So, we’ve looked in Webster, but I
know we are all aware of this 150,000 over asking, that’s kind of ridiculous. So, we decided we
are comfortable where we live and the neighborhood we love. The schools are good and all we
want to do is make that addition and stay there for our life and have it for our grandkids.
Thank you that was nicely done. I appreciate that. I do have a question on one
of the surveys that we were provided. It indicated a proposed addition and proposed pool. So,
are you proposing an indoor pool .
That is in the air. Possibly, yes.
That doesn’t apply to this board. You guys don’t ....he doesn’t need any approvals
for that.
No, I’m trying to understand what I’m looking at, and I was just trying to
understand it, that’s all.
So, I grew up. The guy who owns Auto Finishers, Anthony, near the Publishers
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Parkway, the house right across the street. Indoor pool and that was awesome. It would be kind
of cool to have one for my kids because their fish and my grandkids. If that happens.
Yes, understood. Okay, other questions from the board. No, okay, I will open it
up to the public. Does anyone wish to speak for or against this project. Nope, bring it back to
the board. Any other questions from the board? No......] did drive by the house earlier today,
as you said, the smallest house in the neighborhood. Very tight back yard. Any communication
with your neighbors at 1246 Holley OR 1253 Millcreek.
Next door, then have been in Paris for a long time and they don’t care, they are
cool as heck. The neighbors behind me that are on Holley, they don’t care either. I didn’t go to
their house and get autographs. They all have kids so we all kind of hang out in that corner.
If you look at the view that’s on the screen right now, four of the houses have
additions already on the back. We have had several variances for that neighborhood. It makes
the most sense to put additional living space off the back of the house. There is really no other
place.
These pie shaped lots make it real difficult. If there are no other questions or
comments from the board, I would like to make a motion.
RESOLUTION 26-0031 Michael Short made a motion TYPE II
James
Spampinato.
VOTE:
Mr. Short AYE
Mrs. Volo AYE
Mr. Spampinato AYE
Mr. Accorso AYE
Mr. Centola AYE
(CORRINE VOLO)
1, This request is not out of character in the neighborhood: I don’t know if it’s quite 90% but
there’s a lot of houses along that subdivision that if you had additions added specifically to
the back of the house.
2. There will not be a detriment created to nearby properties: Wil! not create a detriment to
nearby properties. The addition is really only going to be seen by the neighbor immediately
to the rear and to your side and from their house I don’t think it’s going to look like it’s out
of place as far as the distance from the rear lot line.
3. The benefit is not achievable by any other method: As you had indicated, when your
architect worked in trying to find a less impactful location or addition and the roof line of
your house would not work with the roof line of the new addition.
4. This request is not substantial:
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5. There are no adverse physical or environmental impacts to the site or neighborhood: That’s
self-stated.
6. The difficulty is not self-created: It’s really not self-created. I will say it’s not self-created
in that you probably do have one of the smallest houses within that subdivision so, to build
a house to code with current webster you couldn’t build a 1,000 sq foot house, I think it
would have to be at least 12 to 14,00 sf so
7. This is not an undesirable change: Certainly not. It will give you guys extra space and I am
assuming it will look as nice as the rest of the house.
RESOLUTION 26-0032 Corrine Volo made a motion for AREA
Located at 1249 Millcreek
Run. Applicant Peter Pankiw is requesting an
AREA VARIANCE to allow a rear setback
of 42.4ft where 50ft is required associated
with the construction of a 1,080 SF addition
on a 0.41-acre parcel having SBL# 065. 13-2-
29 located in an R-3_ Single-Family
Residential District under Section 350-12 of
the Code of the Town of Webster of which
was seconded by Chris Centola.
Wait, hold on Corrine. It’s advertised for 42.4, you said
44. Corrine Volo: My mistake, I’m sorry.
VOTE:
Mr. Short AYE
Mrs. Volo AYE
Mr. Spampinato AYE
Mr. Accorso AYE
Mr. Centola AYE
CONDITIONS:
e The applicant must obtain all necessary governmental permits, including a Town
Building Permit.
e That one-year significant construction shall expire July 14, 2027
Located at 1084 Bright Stream Way. Applicant Ryan Trenkler is requesting an AREA
VARIANCE to allow a 6-foot privacy fence in the front yard of a corner lot on a 0.59-acre parcel
having SBL# 064.08-2-79 located in the R-2 Single Family Residential District under Section 350-
11 of the Code of the Town of Webster.
Appearing before the board was Ryan Trenkler. Good evening. I am not nearly as prepared as
Peter was and he seem like he had everything in front of him. I am not nearly as prepared but
born and raised in Webster. I spent some time out in Ontario but didn’t like it out there. Not
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the same character. So, came right back to Webster about two years ago and moved into he
property into question.
We have a three year old golden retriever that loves to run and get her energy out and we now
have a seven month old, who will very soon be looking to run as well and the current back yard,
while quite large, is not protected in any way and I would hate to have the dog or baby run out
into the street so we are looking into installing a 6 ft white vinyl privacy fence around the edge
of the yard and due to the nature of it being a corer lot, there is a concern property line over
yonder where that is encroaching on what would be considered a front yard but I think we can
all agree, that it’s really not a front yard other than zoning. So, looking to get a variance to get
that project started.
Questions from the board.
Just to confirm that you won’t be removing any of the existing trees.
No, the treen line will be staying exactly as it is. Those trees have been there
since the property was built in 1987 and no plans in removing those.
The fence will be in the inside of that?
Yes. Actually, I do have photos of the property just taken the other day if I
could just pass them out to the board. (SEE ATTACHED PHOTOS) Showing either side of
the tree line. So, the first photo will be from inside of the property towards the street and then
the other photo will be from the street side looking to the property and hope you can see, not
much visibility on either side of the property into the yard.
The other question I have for you, on the right side of this image are you
bringing the fence line back to the house to...
So, there is already a few sections of the fence of the previous owners has put
in.
BOTH PARTIES SPEAKING THAT THE SAME TIME
I drove by today and I didn’t see it because those trees were on that site.
............ definitely coverage, just not protection.
Understood. Other questions from the board. I would like to open it up to the
public if anyone would like to speak for or against the project. Seeing none, I will bring it back
to the board. Any other comments from the board. Since there are no additional comments.
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RESOLUTION 26-0033 Michael Short made a motion TYPE II
Corrine
Volo.
VOTE:
Mr. Short AYE
Mrs, Volo AYE
Mr. Spampinato AYE
Mr. Accorso AYE
Mr. Centola AYE
(CHRIS CENTOLA)
1.
2:
6.
7. This request is not out of character in the neighborhood: The variance will not impact to
the neighborhood.
There will not be a detriment created to nearby properties: Wil] not be a detriment to the
nearby properties. If alternates were considered, it is a corner lot so you want to be able to
use as much as your lot as possible so it makes sense and if fact, he is placing it behind the
screen and not taking as much land as he possibly might want to by putting the fence within
the tree line.
The benefit is not achievable by any other method:
Not substantial or significant, Once again, it being on a
comer lot he’s trying to utilize as much as the yard as possible for his family and his pets.
There are no adverse physical or environmental impacts to the site or neighborhood: There
are not any physical or environmental conditions that are being adversely affected but
granting of the variance by putting the fence up.
It’s really not self-created. It is self-created but is a
response that allows him to and his family utilize the yard as much as possible.
This is not an undesirable change: There is no undesirable change to the character.
I would just like to add that, as Chris has already mentioned, the fence is going to
be on the interior side of the existing vegetation. They have to be 20 plus foot pine trees and it’s
a very thick vegetation so by putting the fence on the interior side it has no impact on the visual
esthetic of the neighborhood whatsoever. As I drove by earlier today, I did even know there was a
fence back behind there. So again, no impact to the community for this project.
RESOLUTION 26-0034 Michael Short made a motion for AREA
Located at 1084 Bright Stream
Way. Applicant Ryan Trenkler is requesting
an AREA VARIANCE to allow a 6-foot
privacy fence in the front yard of a corner lot
on a 0.59-acre parcel having SBL# 064.08-2-
79 located in the R-2 Single Family
Residential District under Section 350-11 of
the Code of the Town of Webster of which
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was seconded by Chris Centola.
VOTE:
Mr. Short AYE
Mrs. Volo AYE
Mr. Spampinato AYE
Mr. Accorso AYE
Mr. Centola AYE
CONDITIONS:
e The applicant must obtain all necessary governmental permits, including a Town
Building Permit.
e That one-year significant construction shall expire July 14, 2027
Located at 785 Somerdale Drive. Applicant Randy Potuck is requesting an AREA
VARIANCE to allow a shed in the front yard of a corner lot on a 0.68-acre parcel having SBL#
079.05-3-13 located in the R-3 Single Family Residential District under Section 350-12 of the Code
of the Town of Webster.
Appearing before the board was Randy Potuck and I am the resident of 785 Somerdale Drive
and I’m filing for an area variance for a shed. I have been a resident there 18 years and it is a
corner lot. As you can see on the screen. It’s outlined in yellow. The area that I am requesting
is within the 30 ft setback for the southwest portion of the lot right there and the shed is
approximately 10 by
20. All right, so I’ll just go into standards. I don’t anticipate any negative impact to the character of
the neighborhood. It’s brand new construction, professionally built and it should not encroach
on any of the neighboring properties. Alternates considered, I did explore other options on the
lot and unfortunately or fortunately I have mature trees vegetation and the areas where we could
do it within the boundaries would require probably removing some of that or it would impede
the open grass area where the kids play. So, I was not looking to do that if possible.
Substantiality. It’s a corner lot, so it is considered frontage and within that 30-foot setback. But
it would be approximately 8 foot from both property boundaries. No environmental impacts
expected and last self-created difficulty, it’s a corner lot and like I said, if it was normal single
frontage, it would fall within the boundaries. In this case, it does not.
Michae! Short: I do have a quick question, I drove by earlier today and off on Huckleberry Way
you have a berm, and you have a hand full of trees there. So, you’re going to keep it close to
within 8 foot of the property line on the rear sides is where it’s going to go. I’m trying....when
I drove by, I’m trying to envision where physically where it’s going to be.
I had flags up and I actually removed them to mow but...So, did you notice the
new berms? So, it would be approximately 8 foot from each of those.
What determined the 8 feet? I mean....I don’t know because like you said
there’s berms there you obviously want to keep it on your property line but was there a specific
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reason for the distance or it just ....
It was arbitrary.
There’s nothing wrong with it. I am just curious.
I just wanted to keep it far enough away from the property line and from those
berms where you can mow around it.
You’re not running electric or anything out there ?
No sir.
I went by it last Friday; I could have swore I saw a trailer parked in that spot.
Yes sir.
What are you going to do with the trailer.
That is just to load materials and because I have to prep the sit if it does get
approved for gravel and make a pad there.
So, will it be gone after the. I mean where are you going to park it?
I have another property.
I mean it’s going to be hidden again by the tree line so no one will know it’s
there unless you go looking for it within the property.
I will open it up to the public. Anybody want to speak for or against the project?
None.
RESOLUTION 26-0035 Michael Short made a motion TYPE II
Chris
Centola.
VOTE:
Mr. Short AYE
Mrs. Volo AYE
Mr. Spampinato AYE
Mr. Accorso AYE
Mr. Centola AYE
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(CHRIS CENTOLA)
This request is not out of character in the neighborhood: Will not impact the essential
character of the neighborhood. It will not produce an undesirable change in the character
of the neighborhood mostly because there’s existing buffering between the applicant’s
property and the street with both berms and the vegetation and the shed is located so that
it works with the existing vegetation and the applicant’s planned use of it. The applicant
did state that they did look at other alternative locations, but that this was the best one for
both his use and for the screening aspect of the berm along North Huckleberry. Because
the requested variance is not substantial or contextually significant, once again because of
the depth of the corner tot and the existing berm and vegetative buffer it'll be significantly
screened and the application will not have any potential physical environmental impacts
upon the lot or the neighborhood. While the application is self-created, it does appear to
be the best location for the lot, especially it being a corner lot with essentially two 30 foot
required setbacks.
1. There will not be a detriment created to nearby properties:
2. The benefit is not achievable by any other method:
3. This request is not substantial:
4. There are no adverse physical or environmental impacts to the site or neighborhood:
5. The difficulty is not self-created: It’s really not self-created.
6. This is not an undesirable change:
RESOLUTION 26-0036 Michael Short made a motion for AREA
Located at 1084 Bright Stream
Way. Applicant Ryan Trenkler is requesting
an AREA VARIANCE to allow a 6-foot
privacy fence in the front yard of a corner lot
on a 0.59-acre parcel having SBL# 064.08-2-
79 located in the R-2 Single Family
Residential District under Section 350-11 of
the Code of the Town of Webster of which
was seconded by Corrine Volo.
VOTE:
Mr. Short AYE
Mrs. Volo AYE
Mr. Spampinato AYE
Mr. Accorso AYE
Mr. Centola AYE
CONDITIONS:
The applicant must obtain all necessary governmental permits, including a Town
Building Permit.
That one-year significant construction shall expire July 14, 2027
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Approval of minutes for June 2, 2026 (VOLO/CENTOLA)
VOTE:
Mr. Short AYE
Mrs. Volo AYE
Mr. Spampinato AYE
Mr. Accorso AYE
Mr. Centola AYE
Since there are no further applications before the Board, Michael Short adjourned tonight’s
meeting at 9:15 PM
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Corrine Volo, Secretary
Katherine Kolich, Recording Secretary
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