captions Language: en yeah uh give us a couple minutes is this working yeah okay all right welcome to the zoning board of appeals for the town of Webster uh today July 9th 20 uh 24 um we have a total of three uh items on the agenda uh for tonight we um when we have public uh open public session we will limit the time for the public to speak to five minutes per per speaker um I have the proof of Le legal uh publication for all items here with me so everybody's been uh notified signs have gone up uh call for attendance Mrs Volo here Mr how here Mr short here Mr lagner here Mr spado here Mr artuso here all right uh stand for the Pledge of Allegiance Al of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands under God indivisible with liy and justice for [Music] all all right um this uh first item on our agenda tonight is 528 Lake Road uh DEC DEC addition and shed 528 Lake Road deck addition and shed located at 528 Lake Road applicant Frank and Rebecca tibio are requesting area variances to allow a deck extension with a front and rear setback less than what is required and the utility shed in the front setback which is not permitted on a05 acre parcel having number 0481 n-1 d80 located in an R1 single family residential district under sections 350-10 and 35-47 of the code of the town of Webster so start hi my name is Ann Hansen I'm the architect working with Rebecca and Frank on their addition and shed to their new property on 528 Lake Road um so you probably can see from the plans the house is currently within the front setback entirely it's very close to the road um so any modifications we do we would actually require a variance um so here we we are uh looking for a variance for the deck which is to the rear and a shed none of them are any closer than the houses now to the road but um they will definitely be in the front set back we are maintaining the side and the rear setbacks you can see on my um site plan I did kind of show as a dotted line where the setbacks are um and it's really just the front setback that we are um in ing upon um so I know we had sent you some drawings we had then added the shed and they've been working with Josh to get that um in the works here so we're actually going to be foot4 with the shed if that is allowed from the front set back from the front property line I'm sorry um guess that's all you can see now the house is actually in front of the property line the way that it sets now and obviously it's grandfathered in after all these years but um I have the clients here if we have any questions for them or for us in regards to the encroachment and RightWay um is there a agreement with the county to have that house there I don't know what do you mean by an agreement with the county is there a legal agreement with the county to have that wor house located in there right away I don't know the house was built in 1840 and due to the changes that happened on Lake Road I would imagine that some of those lines were changed over the years I know that there was originally Lake Road was a road and then when it when it was changed to a Highway by the Department of Transportation some of the uh setbacks were changed due to the fact that it's a highway well I'm not speaking of setback I mean the house is physically located in the RightWay that I don't know you may want to check with your attorney on that U I know it sounds like some something that's clumb some but uh you really legally should take care of it as soon as you can it's not so much something that affects our decision tonight but it's something that you may want to have you know in your possession to make sure you have that because again looking at the plan that line e goes through the front of your house is property this front set back or the you know so having that in hand will help you in the long run it may affect value in your ability to transfer the property that's right your point okay we just bought the house a year ago and it's changed hands your attorney didn't question that well no the attorney may have uh address that in his file and you may not be aware of it I would check with him or her so the application that I had originally received um the proposed deck is a different orientation uh which Josh shared with me that we've changed the orientation the orientation has been since changed because of the septic yes I'm didn't mention that yes yeah if you can talk to that a little bit and then my other question is the application I um the documentation that I have the drawings that I have don't show any shed so I that's also something else I'd like to understand a little bit more as well yeah um just scrolled through one of the things that was sent that had the sh on for I'm sorry for the shed okay yeah yeah I actually did make some fresh copies too because there was some kind of Ls on there should have been on there um which I will hand out uh the septic we did determine what the location is of the C and so we kind of cut that corner out and then I moved the shed back farther to the north so that um they would still have kind of enough depth to put a table or something there so can you speak to the mic because we need use that they have these already I just clear I did actually just exit shed out so you can see exactly where the shed is you don't have that part yet but the shed is that 10 by 15 where it says propos shed on the one drawing drawing so the shed is going to be built directly next to the house itself yes no space between the two correct um and then I was mentioning about the septic that you wanted me to um say in the mic so we did determine the cap location for the septic and then actually took the corner out there and mooved the shed or the deck I'm sorry a little bit further north so they would have enough depth to be able to put a table and stuff like that cuz before we had more depth that kind of squared off there and it gave more depth on that northwest corner but now we're just going to move it back a little further again start trying to stay as far away from the street and the front's Epic as we can how tall is the shed going to be the shed M within limits yeah probably like within the proposed within the the proposed limits of the ordinance because I I did a deck permit application and then they found out that we were coming for a variant for our deck so the shed application that I did they said that they would hear it at the same time and I submitted all that information um like plans for the plans and elevations of the shed no not cuz this is what this is this is the information that we have up on the screen was there more information than that yeah it was actually you were scrolling through it earlier so in the original elevations that I submitted it wasn't on there CU that was something added on okay since so it's not on the original elevations but something else because I went through these I have hard copy of this I didn't see anything in here it's not an old survey map that I submitted and it has a red square on [Music] it scen so we've got the dimensions that it's a 10 by 15 shed but we just don't have height height or or what it looks like yeah I mean it will be you know just a one story with a you know pretty shallow roof pitch I would think you're going to buy just buy something or build yeah it's going to be small is this going to be a pre- purchase shed or you going to build it stick built I'm going to buy a kit buy a kit put and put it together myself metal wood preferably wood okay I have a question about that though so if I put it if I put it on a foundation does that need a VAR if I either put it on gravel or I put it on slab you need a variance because it's beyond the front setback okay so that that regardless of what you put it on it's because you're beyond the front setback okay is what the issue ends up being um I mean personally being an architect having a gable roof next to a house having water run between two structures that you have no access to to causes concern for future rot and um you know other concerns from a structural standpoint that's beyond the purview of this board um but so I would question putting it right next to your house with little to no space between the two just so that you can maintain your resident structure resident structure that would make sense um reason next to the house versus anywhere else on the half acre plot just seems to be the most convenient that's actually if you look on the the the uh survey map that I've um gave you can see that the squared out the squared out portion to the right there used to be a garage on the property and sometime around 2000 between 2007 and 2012 well the the garage was in disrepair and they had to remove it so that's another reason why we wanted a small shed on the property is because the property doesn't have a garage okay any other questions from the board what's the exterior going to look like going to exterior of the shed it'll be just whatever the like a plat for can't has we will definitely when we do um submit for the building permit we get to that um we will definitely have something like you said to shed water we're not going to have it so it's you know draining back into the house so um and we'll submit that for the building permit too but I guess we were just I guess trying to get the footprint and um kind of nailed down now if that would be allowable to maybe get away from the problem of the two of the eaves running into the house maybe you could purchase a shed with a a shed roof a slant roof that would slant away from the house for sure that would help mitigate the water problem y other questions from the board no um at this point open it up for a public uh discussion comment if anybody has anything to say for against the project no I'll bring it back to the board um any other comments from the board all right um vote on uh Seeker so I make a motion um for a type two action under Seeker pursuant nycrr section 617 .
five of the environmental code second all those in favor I I all right um motion for the variance grin um want me to run through findings oh yeah sorry pleas um the location there there is no Place attached to this house where a deck could go that's not going to be in the front set back because the entire house is in the front set back um as shown on one of the architectural plans everything to be done to the structure is well within the front set back of the house just based on it was built in the 1800s and Lake Road was a tiny little Farm Road then and had no setbacks um the applicant has made accommodations to avoid the septic tank location which is the right thing to do and appropriate um the deck itself is not oversized I will say it's not out of character with the neighborhood a lot of the houses along Lake Road have decks it's just that a lot of the houses along Lake Road are located much further back um there will be no detriment created to nearby properties it's not going to be a line of sight issue um there's no one here from the neighborhood that's complaining about it excuse me the request is not substantial the shed itself is not oversized and the deck is not oversized um the location of the shed is roughly where there used to be a garage many years ago and is the most appropriate location based on the structure of the house and the structure of the lot um no adverse environmental or physical physical or environmental impacts to the site um and in this case I'll say the difficulty is not self-created since the house has been there for 180 years and none of us are that old can I add something to that absolutely if we make a motion to approve this can we make it that we're just approving the uh extension of pre-existing nonconformance rather than gr variance of 7 Fe 4 in I was going to ask that if is it can we consider it an extension of a pre-existing non-conforming structure obviously have to looking at the survey and the encroachment and the RightWay and whatnot I I just would feel more comfortable going that route rather than giving approval for variance right and then that forever with the property defining the extension as not coming any closer to the front the front property line then 7 feet and right yeah 74 in I believe the applicant said is that correct yeah yeah that sounds good does that make sense Josh think what's that section Josh on pre-existing I think it's 35094 somewhere around there used be 25 100 it's been a while since we've done that that's what it was yeah 186 dish 12 that's not helpful yeah yeah 350 uh 35091 35091 m looking so you can you good with that okay just repeat it now so they know exactly but we didn't um we were just doing a findings we didn't get to the conditions yet so then the motion would be to Grant an extension to a pre-existing non-conforming structure at 528 Lake Road to allow a shed within the front setback no closer to the road than 7' 4 in or to the property line I'm sorry the front property line and to allow for the addition of a 642 square foot deck to the rear of the structure per the architectural plan dated 78 of 24 a.2 revision what am I missing um it's 35094 not 91 the uh the parel number as well right 350 994 94 and 95 okay and that would be pursuant to town code section 350 -94 [Music] and do 95 cover that as well or no yeah for the exension it's really it's both sections of all right so we'll refer to both of them 35094 and 35- 95 of the code of the town of Webster uh and also can we limit that the height of the shed will fall within the restrictions of the code which is a 10 foot yep average roof height okay second second Mrs Volo I Mr short hi Mr St hi Mr how hi Mr light hi you have your variance for uh the proposed deck and shed uh do have um one year meaningful uh time for construction C you do have to get a u permit for your deck uh to be able to complete so congratulations and good luck thank you very much Josh thank you for all the back and forth appreciate it sure yeah really take a look at the the agreement with the county where they had encroachment yeah we'll have you'll save yourself a lot of headaches in the future c c is that who Clos it for you who theor the closing L Ste Stephen wi wi yeah just just give him give him a call okay thank you thanks guys thank you next up we have uh 857 Partridge Lane hot tub and gazebo located at uh 857 Partridge Lane uh requesting an area variance to allow a rear setback less than what is required associated with the construction of 144 square foot accessory structure gazebo over a hot tub on a uh4 acre parcel having SP d161 located R3 residential um District how's it going how's it going Mike Dan you both stopped by um so I have a proposed I'm putting in a hot tub and I'm putting a kazeo over it and I am infringing upon what's the number uh 350-2 that's right and 50 ft from your rear or your back property line I have total of 55 ft as you can see um as Mike and Dan were both at the house deg grading for the back of the property there's only one section that you really could put it um we can't really put it right up next to it because the door of the patio opens up and it would just not look proper um and there's no infringement on anybody I have supporting paperwork for um all my neighbors I did finally get a hold of my the back property neighbor guy he was on a vacation I had they're right here the kazia It's s I did not submit the plans for but I have them right here should I bring them forward yeah to Josh please and you said you have uh supporting document from Neighbors I only have one uh neighbor two I got 827 uh is what I have Woodcock drive you I don't I'm not saying that Josh doesn't I don't uh no we only had one let's see well I'm infringing on the rear guy that's his Dan and Ellen you should have because it's not in my folder and I submitted it I'm pretty sure anyways Dan and Ellen are not here right I don't see [Music] them so John John uh is is the neighbor to the rear is that correct John is yes John is okay Dan and Ellen are um as you come into the property to to the left and you do you have a c not saying do you have a copy with you do you have a copy um at home of Dan and Ellen's uh support I don't because I submitted it okay but get another one so if you could get another one I'd like to have it on record what it comes down to so um okay give that to you so you have that the hot tub is sitting on there's going to be a gravel pad okay so it's going to be 6 in of gravel the Footers are going to be within the 12 foot square so that you can see with the kazeo post they're going to be with inside that and they're going to align right to the um Sono tubes and they're going to be uh hurricane bracketed on okay I don't have any questions board have any questions no I your sh's going to be 12 by 12 it's 12 x 12 I mean you shed your gazebo I'm sorry and all right my question is for Mr artuso can we not consider this a shed because it's not enclosed it isn't a shed it's a gazebo it's aaz gazebo not a shed it doesn't really meet the definition of a utility shed okay and then we don't want to preclude him from being able to get a real shed in the future so it it's considered All right so we're calling it an accessory structure because it's right all right okay okay I was thinking the same thing all right any other questions no um at this point open to the public if anybody wants to speak for or against this project please come on up okay with uh no additional comments I'll as the board any additional comments here at the board I know we're considering it as a accessory structure um for the venience for the applicant in case he wanted to have a shed on his property in the future uh would anyone uh object to putting a condition on that it will not be enclosed I have no objection to that this way it remains as a gazebo rather than a sh enclosed enclosed structure that close to the property line do you have any objections to that either I don't I mean the only thing I might do is put a mesh in the back for privacy if it's only on one side it's still not enclosed so correct okay um with that I will um vote on 's I make a motion for a type two action under Seeker pursuant to nycrr section 617.980.9025 do the findings all right you got it you want me to take it oh that's you all right um this gazebo I I don't see it being uh at a character of the neighborhood um it's not going to uh create detriment of the uh the nearby properties and we have uh um letters from two of the uh the neighbors and we'll be getting a a third neighbor um that are in in that are for the for it so clearly not in detriment to the nearby neighbors um it's not achievable by any other methods because of the Topography of the the property and uh due to other variances V variables on the property itself so really the the location um that is being proposed is really the only location that is really viable for this uh it's not substantial it's a 12 x 12 uh gazebo that'll be housing a uh hot tub underneath uh the Gazebo is only being supported by four Sona tubes um and no decking and no um concrete slab is going down underneath it uh no adverse uh physical environmental impacts to the site um difficulty is not self-created because of the Topography of of the property itself um not undesirable change and uh like I said it's not not a significant um significant request for the property itself um with that uh see like to see 857 Partridge Lane hot tub gaze um provide a area variance to allow a rear setback of 16 ft for a 12T by 12T open air gazebo that will be supported by four sonat tubes um with the condition that uh the Gazebo will not be enclosed um the Gazebo will be used uh to cover a hot tub on a point 0.4 acre parcel having d161 located in an R3 residential uh District under section 350-12 of the coda Webster second Mr short hi Mrs Vol hi Mr lagner hi Mr how hi Mr span hi all right you have uh your variant uh you have one year of meaningful uh construction um I'm assuming do we need a um permit from I think it' be so you will have to get a permit for the uh yeah Josh gave it to Jos is very helpful and appreciate your all time we I think we all agree so um so thank you make sure you get a permit as well you bet I'll that thank you good luck have a good day thank you all right next one next 218 Dickinson Road garage and porch Edition located at 218 Dickinson Road applicant Stafford Smith is requesting area variances to allow a front and West Side setback less than what is required associated with the construction of an approximately 416 ft attached garage Edition and a covered porch addition on A51 acre parcel having number 7-19 located in an R2 single family residential district under section 350-1 of the code of the town of Webster good evening how you doing I just want to be able to put a wraparound porch on the front and add a garage and dress up the house a little it's kind of an isore we just bought it at Christmas time last year and we want to Spruce it up make it look nice put his garage in there and we're asking for the just a little bit of room in the front and a little that's what it looks like now and then that's what we're trying to do make it look like it's you know makes it look like it belongs in the area you know make it nice I mean the setbacks aren't I mean I'm still the closest spot is 10 ft and that's on the side porch other than that we got quite a distance on all the property lines all the way around in Paul's drawings here we have the actual what it will be setbacks will be at the end on the side it's actually it will be 10 10.3 ft from the property line after it's built and on the garage side I'll have 15 fo one and I don't believe that that's that's not in that's not encroaching and on the front we'll have 54 ft from the road so I think uh zoning is 55 ft if I remember correctly is there a reason why the extra foot excuse me the front set back I believe is 55 ft if I remember correctly I pull it up well Paul said I needed a variance for a couple feet right there on the front P so we can make you do if it's 54 you're going to need the variance I guess my question is is there a way that you don't need that variance no because of the garage the way that the garage is we got to get a man door in right there and we'll have the eball the the front set back is 60 ft I believe oh was it 60 ft I thought I remember I thought I was reading 55 somewhere yeah Paul couldn't make it tonight his wife's having a procedure I was reading the wrong part of the code sorry about that Josh um okay questions from the board really will this help you correct your uh violations on the property Excuse me yes they was it was just a trailer a couple trailers I had work trailers me and I moved them to my shop I got a shop for that like I said we just bought the property and I put a little uh like a tent up but it's it's Stak down properly so it won't take off and go through the neighborhood or anything like that MH and that's just so that I could store stuff and not make a eyesore out there so the stuff that's stored inside the um temporary it'll end up inside the garage and it's only a golf cart right now that's in there it's nothing really and then I just going to you know as we're building I can keep material under there until I get the garage built I would build the garage first that way I can keep the stuff for the porch and then the back addition is it's already undercover right there it's not really an addition in the back it's just it's a porch now it's a structure now a clean closed structure rure you doing the construction yourself yes I been frame a framer since I was a 15 years old frame numerous houses I did all the houses for Nick D'Angelo and a lot of different Builders throughout the area if you look on my website is uh DEC carpenter.com you can see the a lot of stuff that we're doing you're not intending on uh doing any mechanical work here as a a uh commercial uh operation oh absolutely not no this is just this it's residential only okay as long as you realize that now that's part of the record thank you other questions um I think the applicant answered that once the garage addition is added then a lot of the material that's currently stored outside will be able to be put inside the garage and yeah there's yeah there's no material yet there's a lawnmower and just little stuff right now but yeah that's what I need the space that's why I need the garage man okay all right and then after we bought the house I obtained an office at 1120 West Road so that we have parking spaces for our commercial trailers and our stuff and an office you know a showroom kind of deal so people can pick out different railings and stuff like that okay other questions comments this will take care of the vehicle that's temporarily stored outside now that'll be in the garage outside that's a 66 M staying under the cover yes and that it'll be gone it'll be in the garage so we could rebuild it it's not a spot of rust on that car all right uh at at this point I'll open it up to uh public comment if anybody speak for or against uh there is a 5 minute limit come on up um I I need you to speak into the mic got to come up you have to go up to the podium man I need you to state your name and address bar Marshall 800 Drive Webster and I live uh right around the corner and I can see their house and property and there's more things on their property two jet skis now are sitting there there were trailers cars that parked on the the lawn all winter um there are bags of mulch there's and right now there's all kinds of stuff sitting on the front and the backyard also is a mess so I wish you would clean that up it's all getting cleaned up that's why I need the garage right there so that I can do that and I inherited a lot of that I just bought the property Christmas okay I just bought the property Dan was over there today it wasn't a mess we had that whole Mr you should wait and address your comments to the board rather I went I'm sorry not a problem not a problem I went past it uh this afternoon and the jet skis were sitting there there's wood piles and and the back I can't see the back but my neighbor have said what a there are things all over the back the roof the roof has debris on the top of it um and it's very unsightly okay all I think all I can think is now they're going to have an extra driveway is that going to be for more cars to be sit on sitting in it trck so nothing's on the lawn or anything like that have a garage and then like all our vehicles are brand new ma'am can you address the board yeah just address the board please I'm sorry all the vehicles are brand new there 22 are newer the jetskis are brand new and I have a Do Slip Mr smth you'll get your turn back yeah we're get a chance to talk just just wait yep all right go ahead ma'am any other comments ma'am um no it doesn't make any difference the new cars or not I'm not it's just any cars that are sitting there constantly the driveway is filled with all kinds of cars it's very insightly if you go past there and I went there I looked specifically I drive in and out of there all the time and I have to look away because it's so distractful all right thank you very much you're welcome is there any other uh comments from the audience I wish the volume a little higher can't well they're not speaking into the mic and and they're not speaking loud enough yeah yep please if you angle the mic closer name and address Ellen santor I live at 7:32 Admiralty Way Webster okay and I border this property entirely along the back yard uh fence and there's there's a lot of encroachment of that property into that fence line um with a lot of trash I have pictures that I've taken and I can give them to you that's all I wanted to say okay thank you um and Ellen I believe you also sent us uh an email with comments as well correct yeah I just couldn't send the pictures that's fine okay well you can give the pictures to Josh yep and he'll give it to the code enforcement people okay thank you are those violations on the applicant's property those pictures is that just provided yes okay does the applicant have those no okay so we again we just bought the property so I'm sorry does the board wish to have information about those I'd like to see what the photos are right so the applicant should see the photos if you're going to question the applicant about those those or make any rulings light that are in part even in part based upon those photos so they should have them would you like them to see them yeah let me see them [Applause] I mean has it actually existed saw this for me everything was in the front front yard so I didn't walk around from the back yeah it's possible Mr Smith assume for a second that this was going to be approved what when do you want to start this work I'd like to be able to do the foundation for the garage as soon as possible as soon as I get a permit for it all okay well I'm I'm asking you I mean none of them cars are there right now at all that that trailer is now at my office I have area for my work trailer and the car was in the driveway so that I could clean out the area my tools and stuff and bring them to the office again we just bought the property in Christmas it was in J wa it was right at the end of the year we just made it for the beginning of the year it was the end of December we bought the property if you look it up so let me let me tell you what the concept is okay and and you know I really don't want to dig down necessarily tonight to the facts because it might not be the right time but just as as a general concept the board might I don't vote I'm just telling you what they might be thinking okay as a general proposition if there is a property that has violations upon it they may want to reserve making a determination until the property is in compliance and then make that decision I don't know and I don't want to get into a debate right now that's we did that Dan was over there today get into it anyway see okay um so um Josh the what's reflected in the photos it it may be unpleasant to the I but net net those appear to be code violations or not necessarily so no there are active code violations on the property and and and that conclusion is being drawn from What observations made by our code enforcement officer that's not reflected from the photos no at or about when um well a notice in order was last issued on July 3rd okay so Mr Smith here's here's my thinking and you can accept it rejected totally up you may want to get those resolved be hear me out before you ask the board to decide on this issue if you were to do that you might want to ask it to be table till next month when those issues have been addressed and the code enforcement officer has reported back that you're you're all set and good to go okay it may again I'm not Voting Act on un favorably on the application if you ask the board to act before those issues are resolved and you may say to me hey look we resolved them already nobody on this board knows that but the code enforcement will confirm it for us and then lastly I wouldn't really say this is a fifth amendment issue I don't know what's going to happen whether the town's going to prosecuted or not but you could consider to just take my recommendation work through the code resolutions without saying anything tonight and then come back with a clean slate so to speak in August and then move forward with the approval you can take your take your leave that's just a suggestion I'm going to do what you suggest I mean that would be the smart move right a lot of applicants don't respond that way I think to their detriment but I think that would well that's the whole point of my whole thing is so I can build a garage so I can bring it back and make it look beautiful I mean it's only own for 6 months understood understood and we although it's not a legal requirement we want you to be good neighbors and your neighbors will be good to you and I'm assuming that if all those issues are addressed they probably won't be here and your application May sail through I don't know I understand that's my that's my thinking I understand they're in a completely different neighborhood them streets aren't even touching or anywhere near them right but but nevertheless I understand I make as the general policy we don't want to give approval to to properties that are where violations are existing that' be kind of FO right the right hand not know what the left hand's doing I understand completely so are you asking us to table it until August to clear up any um have somebody come take a look because I everything is straightened out it's all beautiful Dan was there today okay was there today the back the back of it's been cleaned up considerably but as far as the violations I can't answer to that cuz right we're not I'm not the officer we're not the code officer I understand no but I guess the question that I have um I mean I was in the adex building a house for the whole time since that I own this house and I just got back I just literally just got back three days ago from building a house up on Big Moose when you you just purchased this property in December of last year yes ma'am um did the previous owners leave a lot of their there was a lot of stuff there was a lot of stuff I've taken away for dumpster so far okay cuz cuz I know that in the past there had been complaints that there was a lot of stuff in this property there four dumpsters full of stuff so far that I got rid of on the yard okay so you you are making I'm trying to make it beautiful I mean I'm going to put Cedar columns in I'm going to make it look like you don't even know it's going to be beautiful that's what I'm trying to do and I think one of the things the applicant's trying to do is by adding the third Bay to the garage that gives storage space to permit the things that are in the front of the house to be no longer located as well as driveway space and have that temporary structure removed because the stuff in the structure will be put away so I'm I I don't know I guess I won't tell the applicant to table or not to table but if we if the applicant tables it until there's space to put the stuff in where does the stuff go is is as far as what's in front the the back is cleaned up from again I didn't walk into the back so I don't know Dan you said you were back there yeah the back's cleaned up pretty good and what about the front the front was gorgeous the front is beautiful now I mean they put mulch out and everything I've been home for three days since I've been in Big Moose literally three days um I mean I guess I I'll ask the board do you know we still we do still have two outstanding violations uh the sidey yard and the um uh the temporary structure um I'm not saying they're not resolved I'm just we still have two open violations that's all I'm saying uh which I'm assuming by the Third 14th is when we'll be out there checking on that and getting that confirmed that it's been taken care of and they'll be gone so I guess this is the Chicken and the Egg uh scenario it is I agree with Karen um I think if the applicant starts this project the the quicker it's completed I think it'll resolve a lot of those issues it's not to say he W uh he still can't clean up the property or reorganize it so it's more palatable to some of the neighbors um I could be fast about building that too I I've been framing since I was a little kid I could show you pictures I built a houses I had my own crew since I was 15 years old I still got guys working for me to this day so please it's it's not even it's just the variance for the front and the little side it's only a little bit of area and it's going to open up a whole big path so I can take care of all the issues all the mess that anybody sees that there's a mess there I mean I could there's an unsightly shed in the back where're facing This Woman's property I could tear that down I could make it I can make it nice I I mean and this is just going to prolong me a month before I can pull even get a permit that's what I'm looking at the board could could issue an approval I me if it did and have a condition upon clean up the the resolution of the compliance and upon notification of the code officers effectuate M well we also condition that no C of to be issued until uh structure is removed and right complains yeah I promise you I'll make it beautiful I promise you it's going to be gorgeous we hear a lot of promises here it's going to be all Hardy siding on the front and Cedar and a black metal roof with copper it's going to be gorgeous be I have the money to do it it's not I'm not even I don't even need a loan that some yeah so I guess I I'm okay with moving forward if the board is okay yeah I I just what's going to change between now and then and if we put a condition of the and I don't like I don't know that I would condition the building permit but I would condition the is C the CFO is everything has to be put way and out of the way structure removed now it is I guess potentially going to delay resolution of no I'll keep cleaning I'm not going to stop cleaning because I mean I want the property to be beautiful I want people's property value to go up I don't want it to go down this when it when it's finished it's going to be a very attractive house that's our point and and I agree with your letter that it it's going to be beautiful I mean compared to what it was I mean if you show the two I mean look at that compared to the I mean go ahead no I was just going to ask speak in the mic please is there a limit on how many vehicles can be in the like on the property and the driveway they have to be reg registered right licensed and registered yep okay well we have three so I was just curious and they're all you know a lot of it is just Aesthetics yeah if you put it in you know line them up you know rather than park it in the middle of your front line right in the garage the extra garage will make the driveway wider which will make it look nice and right like it's supposed to be and not like you know a mess that driveway all all brand new if I can keep it going you know but you know lot like I say it's a lot of it Aesthetics just just line it up and make it look uh presentable make it beautiful we need more room just like in our front foyer we wna you want to add to it right extend it out just because everything when there's not enough room it becomes cluttered and we just want to resolve that one thing at a time yes we're trying all right then then I'm going to make a motion um on Seeker um I make a motion for a type two action under Seeker pursuant to uh nycr are section 61 7.5 of the environmental code check it all those in favor i i i c I'm going to let you do the honors on this one okay I I will I will say that the request will not be out of character with the neighborhood in that once this project is done the house is going to just be significantly better aesthetically than it is right now it's absolutely it's just yeah it's just flat I understand it's a m um the the end result will not create a detriment to nearby properties and in fact I think it will improve the condition for nearby properties because it's going to clean up the Clutter that's around the front of the house and the side of the house um and and have a very attractive house to add to the ne the Aesthetics of the neighborhood um the request is not substantial if we're looking at the front setback um to the garage is going to be 56 ft and to the porch will be 54t or 60 ft as required um houses within that neighborhood they're not all right in a row so it it will not be noticeable if the garage Jets out a little bit and in fact it will give a little bit of depth to the front of the house will which will make it it'll it'll just make it look better um and and having the different depth it won't look out of character just the houses are on several different setbacks along that street um no adverse environmental or physical impacts to the site or the neighborhood it will in fact improve the impact to the neighborhood um the difficulty is semi self-created semi not self-created um the house is located where it is the um house is biased on one side of the lot more so than the other so it the house not being centered means that I need a um a variance for the side setback for the porch but I do not need a side setback variance for the garage and there will still be adequate access to the rear of the structure going around the side of the garage and still staying within the lot because I will have 15 ft um the request is not significant it is only 4T out of a um 60t setback am I missing think you covered it you all right I don't even know if I can make a motion um I I would make a motion to Grant an area variance at 218 Dickinson Road for front setbacks that will allow a 54t front setback to the construction of a front covered porch and a 56 ft front setback to the construction of a third Bay onto the garage where 60 ft is required and additionally a 10t West Side setback for a covered porch addition to a house where 15 ft is required um on A5 51 acre parcel with SPL number 06371 -9 located in an R3 single family residential district under section 350-1 of the code of the town of Webster R2 R2 yeah did I not say R2 R3 R2 and um I would condition it that the CFO for the Gage would not be issued until the temporary structure is removed and the material that's currently outside of the garages can then be put away garage and porch and porch was any code violations and that any code violations will be remedied second Mrs v i Mr short hi Mr Stan I Mr how I Mr L hi you have your variances um you have one year meaningful Construction to be able to uh get it complete uh you do need a uh approval for the um for the building permit congratulations thank you so much good luck thank you thank you all right we have three sets of minutes to approve this [Music] evening I we start with make sure we have the right Personnel um I will make a motion for the approval of the April 16th 2024 minutes second all those in favor I I I all right I will make a [Music] motion I have enough people for that one um I will make a motion to approve the May 14th 2024 meeting minutes second all those in favor I and I will make a motion to approve the June 11th 20124 minutes check it all those in favor all right we are caught up on our paperwork all right that uh concludes our uh zoning board meeting uh on July 9th thank you everybody EXC I I'm here also Drive yes that was later determined that you actually don't need a variance oh wonderful um there were special setbacks uh that were given to that development okay and I believe you are meeting the 50 Foot rear set back because I think you're proposing to be 40 45 yeah I thought I thought so but yeah you guys caught that and yes beautiful I apologize that that wasn't communicated to you so we're good to go you are good to go we can apply proceed with a building permit okay great thanks so much y thank you all right right and our next meeting is August August something oh my God 10 I know I'm not ready to acknowledge August