WEBSTER ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS MINUTES
Webster Town Board Meeting Building 1002 Ridge Road
May 13, 2024
7:00 pm
ABSENT:
Michael Short Chris Centola
James Spampinato Corrine Volo
Adam Prescott
Anthony Moscaret; John Accorso
John DeMarco, Attorney (REMOTE)
Katherine Kolich, Recording Secretary
Josh Artuso, Director of Community Development
Erika Corsi, Planner of Community Development
Good evening and welcome to the Zoning Board Appeals meeting for May 13,
2025. We have a very full agenda tonight and we have 10 items. Well, 9 items on the agenda.
One of the items, has been tabled until June 10, 2025 and that is Mama Lors. So, we do have 9
items on the agenda, and I do have proof of legal publication for all items here.
The board does have the right to stop the board at 10:00 pm if it continues on so we do reserve
that right. There is also a limit of 5 minutes per person for public speaking so again with the full
agenda we are going to hold to that.
Call Roll/Pledge of Allegiance
Summary of Application Outcomes
SCHEDULED MATTERS
:
1. WICKERTON ADDITION-1023 WICKERTON LANE
PATRICK AUGINO JR
APPROVED AS PRESENTED
2. HART ADDITION-624 MAPLE DRIVE
WILLIAM HART
APPROVED AS PRESENTED WITH CONDITIONS
3. ARGENTO GAZEBO-1840 SCHLEGEL RD
JASON ARGENTO
APPROVED AS PRESENTED
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4, MAINTAIN CHICKENS-255 PRINCETON ROAD
JESSICA TIERNEY
APPROVED SPECIAL USE PERMIT WITH CONDITIONS: NO ROOSTERS
ALLOWED; ONLY 6 HENS; ONE YEAR FOLLOW-UP.
5. MAINTAIN CBICKENS-555 HILLS POND RD
DAVID AND MELISSA PHELPS
APPROVED SPECIAL USE PERMIT WITH CONDITIONS: HENS SHOULD BE
ENCLOSED; NO MORE THAN 5 HENS; ONE YEAR FOLLOW-UP.
6. GARDEN SHED-440 LOCUST HILL DR
CHERYL AND MATTHEW LAWLESS
APPROVED AS PRESENTED; 8 X 8 SHED
7. ERONT PORCH-6712 WILLOW LANE
BRYAN BISHOPING
APPROVED AMENDED VARIANCE WITH CONDITIONS: BUSHES AND
CONSTRUCTION MATERIALS TO BE REMOVED; PORCH NOT TO BE ENCLOSED;
NOT TO BE USED FOR STORAGE; ONLY FOR TABLE, CHAIRS, GRILL, AND TO
TO BE MAINTAINED.
8. FRONT WALKWAY INSTALLATION-297 WELLINGTON RD
EVA POLITO
APPROVED AS PRESENTED; 36 FEET FRONT SETBACK.
9. MAMA LORS’ SUNDIVISION PLAT-1315 LAKE RD
1315 LAKE ROAD LLC ON BEHALF OF JONATHAN OLIVA
APPLICANT REQUESTED TO TABLE TO THE JUNE 10, 2025 MEETING.
10. HOWLEY ADDITION-619 APPLE GROVE CIRCLE
JAMIE HOWLEY
APPROVED AS PRESENTED WITH CONDITIONS: DECK TO BE REMOVED;
REMOVE SOIL; PROVIDE GRADING PLAN AT TIME OF BUILDING PERMIT.
Before we go through the agenda and start the meeting, I just wanted to make a
reminder out to the applicants and the board, that the PowerPoint presentation is a one to one
with every application that was submitted for tonight’s meeting. So, it is the role of the applicant
to go through that five criteria that will be up on the screen. It’s the criteria that you filled out in
your application to obtain an area variance. So, I just want to remind the board and the applicants
of that before we get started.
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(ERIKA CORSI READ INTO THE RECORD)
1. WICKERTON ADDITION: Located at 1023 Wickerton Lane. Applicant Patrick
Augino Jr. is requesting an AREA VARIANCE to allow a rear setback of 45.10’ where
50’ is required, associated with the construction of an approximately 598 SF addition to a
single-family dwelling on a 0.43-acre parcel having SBL# 079. 16-3-20 located in the R-3
Single Family Residential District under Section 350-12 of the Code of the Town of
Webster.
Appearing before the board Patrick Augino. As mentioned, I would like to add about a 600 sq ft
to the rear of my house and it will require a 5 foot variance off the rear setback. Mainly adding
an extra bedroom upstairs. My family is getting a little older and I would like my daughters to
have separate bedrooms if possible.
So, the plan is not to change the character of the neighborhood. We will maintain the roof height
as it is now. Same siding, same, you know, no real impact to the lot or the house as it is.
Alternates, basically the proposed addition is to create the extra space for my daughters to have
their separate bedrooms. We really like the neighborhood, like the schools that we’re in, prefer
not to move. The housing market isn’t always the greatest and lack of affordable four bedroom
homes is a little challenging right now .
I think part of the intent was did you consider alternate locations or alternate
solutions (o what you are presenting.
Yeah, so the layout of the house creates a bit of a hardship that they way it’s laid
out we couldn’t go onto the other side of the lot . It’s got a cathedral ceiling. It would completely
change and mess up the layout of the house. So, requested substantial deviation basically no real
major effects to the neighborhood, it continues to function as the same and getting this variance
does not create any adverse effects on the value or desirability of any of the nearby properties.
There should be no impact to the environment you know, not contributing to any kind of flooding
or runoff, Gutters and whatnot will be maintained and connected to the existing drainage systems
where possible. Again, this isn’t sort of self-created due to the layout of the house, this is really
the only location that we can put it. The lot is a little kind of wonky with some of the angles. So,
it shouldn’t cause any major issues.
So, I will open it up to the board for questions.
Siding, everything is going to remains the same as what is in place now.
Correct.
So, this is a two-story addition, correct.
It is.
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Michael! Short: Height wise, there is a section here, we’re showing 8 ft ceilings; don’t have an
overall height. In retation to your current house, what would the height be. Right, I mean you got
three, four different eaves on the house. Where is the eve of this addition going to land.
The ridge of the addition will be no higher than the rest of the house.
When we say the rest of the house because the garage ridge is lower, or the
main....
The garage goes like this so we’re going to behind it like this, behind the garage
and only 4 feet will be extended out that you would see from the road and the roof would come
down...part of it would come down over the garage roof that goes like this.
So, it will be taller than the garage eve, but it will not be any taller than the main
house’s eve.
No. We will maintain all the soffit. The house has soffits on every roof line on
all four sides. Will maintain all the soffits to keep the character of the original construction.
So, if you can look at the screen here and we got the garage off on the left where
the cursor is, that is the highest ridge. Is that the ridge that you are talking about or is it actually
the lower ridge.
It’s not. Will be raising the height of the ceiling of the rooms. They’ll be equal
with the existing house and the roof pitch will be equal with the highest peak on the house that
you would see from the side.
Josh, can you go back to the aerial view real quick. So, if you can, see the cursor
there, Is that the ridge..,.and unfortunately, I did get to see the house, but I wasn’t able to meet
with anybody there, otherwise I would have asked these questions while I as there. There’s that
ridge where the cursor is and then there’s a higher ridge there. Which ridge is the addition going
to match. Because the addition is going to be closer to the lower ridge based on the locations.
Just give me a moment. (APPLICANT APPROACHED THE BENCH WITH
DRAWINGS TO SHARE) SEE ATTACHED. We did the drawings on this rather extensively.
We are hiring an architect for the final.
Yes, I did go through those.
This is the existing house, and this is the existing house . This is the garage roof
coming up high. This is the existing right here and this is our new roof . So, the ridge lines can
be equal to what you see on the side.
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| am just trying to figure out if this ridge is....there is essentially three ridges.
There’s this house, it has extensive roofs.
Ok.
So, what I maintain here it’s the same pitch so that the look is the same. This
wall goes up against this wall and this soffit where I have them checked like that. That part of the
soffit has to come out. That wall starts right there and then we come out 4 feet. You lock from
the road; we’re only 4 feet from the garage so everything’s behind and it’s really not changing
things.
Thank you. Another question I have, have you had any communications with
your neighbors to the rear. I believe it’s like 991 Jackson and 989 Jackson.
Not 989 but I have talked to 991 and they didn’t seem to have a problem.
Okay. Any other questions from the board.
It’s currently a three bedroom. You're going to four. I am sorry.
Yes
And the septic, I saw that you couldn’t do a certain area because you would have
had to reconfigure your current septic system. So, is that what I was reading.
Not septic, just the layout of the house.
I thought is said something about requiring the reconfiguration of a septic system.
No, we are on............ (EVERYONE SPEAKING AT THE SAME TIME)
Actually, I di have a question. The....it’s a bedroom on the second floor, what’s
going on the first floor.
Well, the point is we need the bedrooms upstairs and on the main living area.
We need four bedrooms. One of the smallest bedroom on this side that will be adjoining the
addition. Part of that is becoming a hallway into the new addition for the two bedrooms that are
upstairs. Thus, leaving the downstairs, large area. There’!! be a master bath put down there with
a guest room bedroom below.
Thank you. The addition does have three bedrooms in it though, correct.
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It has three now. One’s coming out to become partially a hallway to the new
addition. So, there will be four bedrooms upstairs and a suite downstairs for company.
This becomes a total of 5 bedrooms. The house when it’s all said and done.
Yes, 4 up and | down.
So, it becomes a total of 5 bedrooms when done. Right, cuz the addition will have
2 bedrooms upstairs and 1 bedroom downstairs and also looks like a laundry room upstairs and
then, I don’t know some storage sink space, shower I guess and some kind of on-suite type space
on the first floor.
Correct.
RESOLUTION 25-0020 Michael Short made a motion TYPE II
James
Spampinato.
Mr. Short AYE
Mr. Moscaret AYE
Mr. Accorso AYE
Mrs. Volo ABSENT
Mr. Spampinato AYE
Mr. Prescott AYE
Mr. Centola ABSENT
(MICHAEL SHORT)
Because of the location of the addition being in the rear of the property, it does not affect the
essential character of the neighborhood itself. Only a small portion of the addition will be seen
above the garage roof line. Due to the layout of the current house, this is really the only location
to be able to place the addition itself to be able to have the bedrooms location to the south would
not work with the current layout of the property itself. This is not a significant addition, I believe
it is about 500 square feet if | remember correctly so it’s not significant in any means.
Environmental and physical conditions of the area are not greatly affected in the area. Though this
is self-created, the layout itself and the desire again does not have a significant effect to the
neighborhood. Does anybody else want to add anything.
RESOLUTION 25-0021 Michael Short made a motion for AREA
Located at 1023
Wickerton Lane. Applicant Patrick
Augino Jr. is requesting an AREA
VARIANCE to allow a rear setback of
45.10’ where 50’ is required, associated with
the construction of an approximately 598 SF
addition to a single-family dwelling on a
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0.43-acre parcel having SBL# 079. 16-3-20
located in the R-3 Single Family Residential
District under Section 350-12 of the Code of
the Town of Webster which was seconded
by: John Accorso.
Mr. Short AYE
Mr. Moscaret AYE
Mr. Accorso AYE
Mrs. Volo ABSENT
Mr. Spampinato AYE
Mr. Prescott AYE
Mr. Centola ABSENT
CONDITIONS:
© The applicant must obtain all necessary governmental permits, including a Town
Building Permit.
e That one-year significant construction shall expire May 13, 2026
(ERIKA CORSI READ INTO THE RECORD) SEE ATTACHED
z GARAGE ADDITION: HART ADDITION: Located at 624 Maple Drive. Applicant
William Hart is requesting an AREA VARIANCE to allow rear setback of 46.3’ where
50’ is required, associated with the construction of an approximately 224 SF three-seasons
sunroom addition to a single-family dwelling on a 1.8-acre parcel having SBL# 063.16-1-
10 located in the R-3 Single-Family Residential District under Section 350-12 of the Code
of the Town of Webster.
Appearing before the board was William Hart. If you go to the instrument survey map, that’s
probably the easiest way to explain this. So, the addition will be at the back of the house. If you
look at the north side, you will see a current structure that used to be a hot tub room that is falling
apart and then there’s a deck. And then where the where the red rectangle is where we would
plan to build the house for the addition.
The deck is remaining.
Yes. By the way, the ridge line of the addition is going to be about 3 feet below
and perpendicular to the ridge line of the house.
Appreciate that, thank you.
Are you taking down the hot tub room that’s falling apart?
Yes, it won’t take much work. The character of the neighborhood, we don’t
anticipate any adverse effect to the neighborhood. The siding of the house or of the addition will
be the same as the siding on the house and J just want to point out that the entire house is
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surrounded by undeveloped woodland. Alternates considered, we considered one alternate and
that is where the existing hot tub room is However that would not work and if...could we just
go back to the map again. So, if you look at the map, the area where the existing how tub is, is
only about 10 feet and we are looking at building a 14 by
16. In addition, as was mentioned
previously, the septic system is there, the collection tank, and then piping into the leech field. So,
we would have to work around that and lastly, the connection point to the house would go right
into the master bedroom there. So, that’s not particularly desirable. If we go into sustainably ,
the room that we’re proposing to build is about 0.005 on a 1.88 acre lot so we think that the small
size of both the variance and the room would render it not particularly substantial . The impact
on the environment, we are going to put gutters on the room and tie that into the existing gutter
system. So, we’ll be using the existing drainage. Traffic I think is not applicable. I don’t know
what circulation means. Can somebody tell me.
It is the movement around your fine. It’s not applicable to this particular project.
Thank you. Dust and noise, obviously during construction there would be some
dust and noise so that would be short term. In addition, any dust or noise would be mitigated
from the neighbor perspective because of the surrounding undeveloped woodland. I don’t think
it is applicable; public services, we will have electrical in the room but that’s it and so we’ve
concluded that it shouldn’t have an impact on the environment. So, that created difficulty. It’s
really the pre-existing conditions and layout of the house. So, the house itself is about 71 feet,
and we’ve got about 10 feet at the hot tub room that’s going to be demolished and about 35 feet
of deck That leave about 25 feet where we are proposing to put the room in,
Ok, I will open it up to the board. Any questions, comments that you may have.
Did you have any correspondence with neighbors to the south or east of you?
I did with both of them and they’re both willing to support the variance.
Okay. Yeah, you’re deep into the woods. I think there’s quite a bit of wooded
property between you and our neighbors, so I don’t think there are any issues here.
RESOLUTION 25-0022 Michael Short made a motion TYPE II SEQR
which was seconded by: Anthony Moscaret.
Mr. Short AYE
Mr. Moscaret AYE
Mr. Accorso AYE
Mrs. Volo ABSENT
Mr. Spampinato AYE
Mr. Prescott AYE
Mr. Centola ABSENT
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RESOLUTION 25-0023 Michael Short made a motion for AREA
VARIANCE —: Located at 624 Maple Drive.
Applicant William Hart is requesting an AREA
VARIANCE to allow rear setback of 46.3’ where
50’ is required, associated with the construction of an
approximately 224 SF _ three-seasons sunroom
addition to a single-family dwelling on a 1.8-acre
parce! having SBL# 063.16-1-10 located in the R-3
Single-Family Residential District under Section
350-12 of the Code of the Town of Webster which
was seconded by: Anthony Moscaret.
(MICHAEL SHORT)
The essential character of the neighborhood, I don’t want to say deep in the woods, but you are
surround by a wooded lot in all areas. By making this addition, it’s really not going to affect the
surrounding neighborhood. As part of this project, you are going to be tearing down a small hot
tub addition as well so, this is a little bit larger. We are moving, trading one for the other. Though
you did look at the location of the hot tub which would keep you behind the 50 ft mark, that
location does not access the family space. It does only access the master bedroom, so it was not
an ideal location. The orientation of your house to the property line is not parallel. It’s kind of
.. off by about 5 or 6 degrees which is also causing some of the issues with the setbacks. This is
not a significant change. Again, we’re removing one addition, and we are adding another addition.
The physical environmental conditions are not changing. That area is not wooded, and you are
not really affecting anything in that particular area. Again, it’s self-created because it’s something
that the applicant desires, it is the most practical location and it’s not a detriment to the project
itself or to the property or surrounding areas itself.
Does anyone else want to share anything else on the findings.
No
Mr. Short AYE
Mr. Moscaret AYE
Mr. Accorso AYE
Mrs. Volo ABSENT
Mr. Spampinato AYE
Mr. Prescott AYE
Mr. Centola ABSENT
Pg. 92 May 13, 2025 Zoning Meeting
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CONDITIONS:
¢ The applicant must obtain all necessary governmental permits, including a Town
Building Permit.
® That one-year significant construction shall expire May 13, 2026
This also includes the removal of an existing hot tub/sunroom/three season room as
well.
(ERIKA CORSI READ INTO THE RECORD) SEE ATTACHED
3. ARGENTO GAZEBO: Located at 1840 Schlegel Rd. Applicant Jason Argento is
requesting an AREA VARIANCE to allow a 1,208 SF addition to a pre-existing non-
conforming 912 SF pole barn (totaling 2,120SF) on a 5.2-acre parcel having SBL# 066.01-
1-46.1 located in the LL Large Lot Residential District under Sections 350-13, 350-36,
350-95 of the Code of the Town of Webster.
Appearing before the board was Julie Hus and Kevin Feor (speaking): Jason was called out of
town and this is Julie Hus, his significant other. I am a retired contractor, so I offered to come
and speak on their behalf. We have a pre existing non-conforming metal pole barn, and they
would like to build an open gazebo or a picnic shelter where the roof line matches the existing
gabled roof line of the metal building The sides are open with pose and header typical shelter or
gazebo. There is no intention for concrete at this point. They haven’t decided if they would
hardscape it or gravel it, etc....etc... The reason for the structure is that not only do they have tow
dogs and they would like to be able to be out outside and entertain when it’s raining or extreme
sun. So, put a couple picnic tables in it. Where they’re located is all iarge lots. It’s pretty much
Webster East so it not as dense as Webster West these days. So, it’s not unusual to have accessory
structures or barns in that part of town. The building is pretty much sheltered visually from the
road because of four mile creek and ok so for those reasons we don’t really think it will change
the character of the neighborhood. We did consider alternatives, but this just seemed the logical
spot to put it where it would be the least visible from the road and from the neighbors. The east
side again, there is Four Mile Creek and all woods and the neighbor on the west side is not going
to be able to see it because it’s on the east side of the pre-existing non-conforming pole barn.
Substantially, I mean the variance is not really asking for a setback, but it is asking for a
reasonable size grant from the ZBA but the additional one structure at 900 some odd square feet
is pre-existing was there when they bought the house and this structure is open and it’s just a roof
line, post and a header. The impact on the environments negligible. It drains on grade; there is
no impervious surface being added at this point and time and honestly, everything drains to Four
Mile Creek. It is self-created, there is no question of that but given the size of the lot and just
putting it where it’s least visible from the road or have any impact on the neighborhood or the
rest of the neighbors, it seemed like the logical spot to put it where it would be least noticeable. I
would be happy to answer any questions.
Can you tell me what the height of the eve of the existing building is.
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going to say, is 15-16 feet.
That what I guessed when I was out there.
I built their addition but ’'m hazing and guessing memory. My memory is not a
great as it used to be, unfortunately.
No worries. Other questions from the board.
? (not sure who is speaking, camera is on applicant) you said he hasn’t decided
what he’s going to do for a floor yet. Gravel, concrete?
They’re going to remove the side and gravel it and then either pour concrete at some
point or hardscape it, meaning pavers.
? (not sure who is speaking, camera is on applicant) So, [’m assuming he would
have this all done before it’s finalized and everything and not just do that.
I think part of the floor ambiguity is a cost factor to be....] mean one’s probably
more than putting the structure up.
There is a small slope in the back if I remember correctly, right. It dips down a
little bit.
It will be leveled out.
So, it will be the same. So, the floor of the gazebo will be the same floor as the
pole barn itself.
Yes.
You have no intentions of enclosing this gazebo.
No
Okay.
? (not sure who is speaking, camera is on applicant) Are you running any electric
or planning on putting any lights hanging.
At this point in time, Jason and 1 spoke about it, and he doesn’t have any real plans
and I’m like, well, you can always do solar. It’s not going to be a workshop and it’s not going
Pg. 94 May 13, 2025 Zoning Meeting
to be enclosed. I mean, he’s got the pole barn and garage, and he does use those for that but at
best maybe it ends up with a couple of plugs and lights. I mean,
There’s existing electricity in the pole barn so I mean, I can see us maybe stringing
lights across but nothing significant.
Yeah, it’s literally 6 x 6 at 10 or 12 feet and microlam headers or treated headers.
Rafters on a metal roof to line up with the existing pole barn.
Erika, you had indicated that or it was indicated on the slide show that the existing
pole barn with the addition will be about 2200 square feet, I think is what it said, right.
Yes, that’s correct.
Yes, the pole barn is 900 and changes and the addition is 1200 so, it’s close enough
to 2200.
I don’t have any questions, anyone else? Ok, so we are doing......this is an area
variance because of total square foot of the building. Is that......... want to make sure that
we’re...that’s the or is it because it’s a pre-existing non-conforming structure.
I think it’s both. I wasn’t real sure myself.
It is an addition to a pre-existing non-conforming which has to be reviewed by the
board.
And then the total square footage exceeds what’s allowable, I think.
Yes
2500 I think is the max right ? For an accessory building I think is what it is.
Correct.
RESOLUTION 25-0024 Michael Short made a motion TYPE II SEQR
which was seconded by: Anthony Moscaret.
Mr. Short AYE
Mr. Moscaret AYE
Mr. Accorso AYE
Mrs. Volo ABSENT
Mr. Spampinato AYE
Mr. Prescott AYE
Pg. 95 May 13, 2025 Zoning Meeting
Mr. Centola ABSENT
(MICHAEL SHORT)
The essential character, this is in a large lot residential district and property of most of the
properties out there are 3 plus acres. This parcel is 5 acres. There are a lot of pole barn structures
out in this area so having an open gazebo attached to an existing pole barn structure is not outside
of the character of this area. There is no other remedy. Other areas were looked at and this is really
the best solution and most cost-effective solution to be able to provide the gazebo, and I am going
to call it open air pavilion for this property. Significance, it is a 1200 square foot open pavilion
that is being installed. It is not insignificant, however due to the large lot the surrounding area and
pole barns in that area, it is not a significant impact to the area and again, it’s not near any of the
setbacks or any of the neighbors as well. Physical or environmental conditions, they’re not
affecting any ground water, any drainage, they are affecting about 1200 sq ft of green area but
again, not significant and again, because it is a need that is a self-created element, but this really
is the best solution for this open area, gazebo area. Does anybody else want to add anything to the
findings.
RESOLUTION 25-0025 Michael Short made a motion for AREA
VARIANCE Located at 1840 Schlegel Rd.
Applicant Jason Argento is requesting an AREA
VARIANCE to allow a 1,208 SF addition to a pre-
existing non-conforming 912 SF pole barn (totaling
2,120SF) on a 5.2-acre parce] having SBL# 066.01-
1-46.1 located in the LL Large Lot Residential
District under Sections 350-13, 350-36, 350-95 of
the Code of the Town of Webster which was
seconded by Anthony Moscaret.
Mr. Short AYE
Mr. Moscaret AYE
Mr. Accorso AYE
Mrs. Volo ABSENT
Mr. Spampinato AYE
Mr. Prescott AYE
Mr. Centola ABSENT
CONDITIONS:
e The applicant must obtain all necessary governmental permits, including a Town
Building Permit.
e That one-year significant construction shall expire May 13, 2026
Pg. 96 May 13, 2025 Zoning Meeting
(ERIKA CORSI READ INTO THE RECORD) SEE ATTACHED
4. MAINTAIN CHICKENS: Located at 255 Princeton Rd. Applicant Jessica Tierney is
requesting a SPECIAL USE PERMIT to allow a 12’ x 8’ chicken coop and no more
than 6 chickens on a 0.28- acre parcel having SBL# 063.18-4-3 located in the R-3 Single
Family Residential District under Sections 350-40, 350-75 and 350-103 of the Code of
the Town of Webster.
Appearing before the board was Jessica Tierney. I am requesting this special use permit in order
to maintain 6 chickens on my property. This will be located in my fenced in back yard. The
exact location of the coupe would be something that I would decide when I get the materials.
Judging by shade and also level ground but it would be somewhere by the existing garage... and
that would be a coop at first that would have a small chicken run on it, but I could expand that.
That was part of the plans as they grow. This is something that you’re aware. It’s becoming
increasingly popular in residential areas and there’s a lot of different materials out there
researched on and how this can be done that would still be a nice hobby for people but also
something that could be done in a neighborhood and doesn’t affect the neighborhood.
So, you mentioned by the garage, the images that we were looking at, is that
rectangle the area that you were considering.
It could be, I’m just kind of now that I am looking into it more, I think it would
be better to have it closer to the garage just for the shade and just the lawn there might be better.
So, it’s kind of open ended with my end up.
Fair enough, but your backyard is fully fenced.
Correct. I have chain links all the way around.
You are not doing rooster, just the hens.
That would be something that is up to you guys. The research that I have done,
it does seem sometime without a rooster, the hens sometimes don’t have as happy as a life because
they rely on the roosters to protect the flock, and I understand there are noise issues with roosters
but the types of chickens that I am interested in are called bantam silky chickens. So, they’re
really small and they historically don’t crow as often and understanding that you can only have |
rooster in the flock anyways. So, there’s considerations there. I would like to be able to have a
rooster just for the well-being of the hens.
I will say, generally, we do not allow roosters for the noise. So...but we'll have
the discussion open here. Any other questions.
{not sure who was speaking) : Yes, have you talked to your neighbors about
this.
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I have not. One of the neighbors directly to the side of me, there’s renters there
and as far as I know, no one else has moved in and then my other neighbors really don’t come
out much, don’t talk much, but the sign’s been there, and I’ve seen a lot of slow down and look
at the sign. So, I’m sure if they had any questions, they would ask or they would be here. It’s
kind of just the neighborhood just that everyone keeps to themselves and minds their business for
the most part.
Are you planning on...so, you mentioned the first coop that you get will end up
having a small run to it. As that evolves, it is your intent to let them roam free in your backyard
and the reason I ask that is, though chickens don’t fly, they do jump with their wings, and they
will jump over a chain link fence and go onto your neighbors property.
Correct. No, I don’t plan on letting them free range for their safety as well, just
with predators around, I don’t want that for them. So, 1 brough a couple of pictures and J could
bring them up or just show. This would be kind of like coop that is prefabbed and then I would
either build an extra wood extension for the run or you can purchase ones that are made of chain
link that sort of attach to the coop to give them more space, but it would be enclosed so they’ re
not able to jump or fly.
Including a lid.
Correct.
Alright, does anyone want to see the picture of the coop?
If you go with whatever design you go with, protection for other animals
getting in because foxes can jump pretty high and everything. I assume there’s going to be a
covering over it.
Yes, and from our research, hardware cloth is the only way to keep out predators
so that is something that I am aware thai I will have to enclose everything in there to make sure
that they’re safe.
You will want to go down either 24 inches into the ground or 24 inches out, so
they don’t dig underneath as well.
Yes. Don’t you like fan it out underneath?
Yes. Alright, I don’t have any further questions. { will you know...I’ll leave it
up to the board, but J would recommend...I think you indicated no more than six hens or chickens.
Correct?
Correct.
Pg. 98 May 13, 2025 Zoning Meeting