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captions Language: en Mhm. >> Webster. And the rules are for the person who receives it, it needs to be in the front of their house or barn so that it can be seen. Uh those of board board members, I gave you a map. You have a packet, I think, with the map in it. It's just for your information, but you can go to the webstermuseum.org and you can find the map of the location of all of those properties. So, uh the criteria. Does anybody here live in an old house? Nobody lives in an old house. All right. Thank you. Uh some of the criteria is it needs to be 50 years or older. Uh and there are other things that have to have mean that it would look today like it looked when it was first built.

And that's what these properties all qualify for our plaque. So, uh this property, oh, I don't have my picture here, but this property that we're giving today, when we started out in 2008, we had 10 properties. And then the plaques got rather expensive. Uh thank you. The plaques got very expensive and they were paid for by the town. This is a a venture of the town of Webster, all of you, and our Webster Museum. So, plaques, like everything else, have increased in price, and so we have fewer. But, that's okay. So, today are the house that we're honoring is in the village at 121 East Main Street.

It's right on Main Street, and uh you also should have a picture in your packet of what the house looks like. So, this house was built in 1913. So, it qualifies. Originally, I believe it was a doctor who lived here. Is that right? What was his name? Stanton. Dr. Stanton. Stanton. Stanton. And so, the house was built in eight you can kind of still see his office space in there, where it was. And I believe is the lab in the basement? Okay. And so, it has a history, but it's architecturally interesting, as well. And that's important, too. So, this house was lived in by Mr. Jake Swingley's family.

Wave. >> [laughter] >> You probably most of you know who he is. And his family lived there a long time. But, it has been recently sold to a Mr. Boyer, Mr. and Mrs. Boyer. And Mr. Boyer, would you mind up here? Well, I don't know. Welcome to Webster, where life is worth living. Okay. So, it's kind of fun to have former owner and new owner. So, tonight and we have a few representatives from our historic properties committee, too. >> [laughter] >> Thank you. Okay. So, this house as I said, was built in 1913 and we have a plaque to present. Eventually, it will get to Mr. Boyer. >> [laughter] >> But, right now this gentleman represents the Village of Webster.

Yes. >> The house is in the village. And so Would you like to hold this? Sure. Thank you. And Does Do you know everybody? Do I know Mr. Boyer? Yes. No, I mean it I'll be here. >> Okay. So, >> [laughter] >> I guess you all know who this gentleman is. If you don't, it's Mike Brennan. >> [laughter] >> So, he's a part of our presentation tonight because the house is in the village. When we started out, we were only in the town. But, there are wonderful houses in the village as well. And so, now we've kind of branched out into the village. So, tonight we just want to welcome you as the new owner. And we thank you.

Do you have some words you'd like to share? Well, I would just like to say thank you to the town, the historical society and the the museum. I think it's wonderful that we recognize these historic homes and we recognize and preserve uh what started in this case in 1913. So, thank you to everybody and I like to present it to the new owner. Mr. Boyer. Thank you so much. And you have to put this where it can be seen from the street. >> Okay. Thank you. >> [laughter] >> That's important. >> [snorts] >> All right. >> Okay. Thank you and thank you very much. >> Thank you. >> THANK YOU. >> [applause] >> ALL RIGHT, IT IS OUR OPEN TO THE FLOOR.

Each speaker will be allowed 5 minutes and you will be seeing me waving my hands at 4:00 and then cut off at 5:00. Please respect the speaker and refrain from disruptive behavior or comments. You may not agree with what they have to say, but they have every right to say it. Except threatening statements will not be tolerated and may involve you being removed. With that being said, we do only have one speaker tonight, so Kevin Lockhart. Where did everybody else go? It's summerish. Everybody, my name is Kevin Lockhart. I'm here today to address the Manor County Bay Road revision set to begin on June 15th for several weeks through April and just to preface this, through April and May I knocked on thousands of doors including Stunningdale Rise, Brookwood, Robindale, Spring Meadow, Bay Meadow, and Heathland Circle to hear resident concerns.

And in that neighborhood, the Bay Road diet came up a lot. The number one issue in the Bay Road revision that I hear about constantly from people living near Bay Road and on any of those subdivisions is resident safety and traffic safety. The administration has been doing a really good job communicating with the town supervisor. The the town board hasn't exactly been involved as much as they probably should have because it with the county communicated to the administration who communicated to the town supervisor, and then the town board just seems to have been kind of left out of that circulation, possibly.

And that's something that I think I would like to see the town board members much more involved in because they interface so often with residents, with taxpayers, and they could effectively ease concerns related to this change. The change is uneasy because it relates to safety concerns and affects residents' daily lives. The residents are they have expressed concerns about how they are going to adjust to the roadway changes, and it's definitely a emotional position that they're taking. It's not a logical position necessarily just because I'm not going to go and persuade anybody to not feel nervous about this whole situation.

So, in that regard, my role and my context that I'm speaking with residents is very clearly, and this is what I tell them, I'm trying to inform you on what's going on in the town, and I trust that you counsel me on your issues, and that what you tell me is sufficient to address your quality of life and your satisfaction living in your neighborhood. And so, number one issue, traffic safety. Whether if if the road diet change and the revision makes people safer, then that's probably the best thing to do. But, we really have to make the case to the residents that statistically it's a whole lot safer to change the lanes.

Also, I had a question about the 2-ft shoulders, that which are unusually thin shoulders. Uh cuz normally shoulders are 3 ft. Right? So. Um I think residents just want to be reassured. And uh relating to the safety outcomes, the [clears throat] traffic flow, things like emergency access, the neighborhood quality of life, and the long-term planning impacts. Well, if we're not communicating uh clearly to the residents to address their specific concerns, then the emotional position that they're in is not really being addressed um because you can talk at them, but really we need to be listening to them about what their concerns are, how their daily life is affected.

And um just have that feedback. Uh just be receiving that feedback constantly. I'm not totally convinced that the feedback mechanism was fully sufficient just because I don't understand what the how many neighbors were actually or residents were actually adjoining the area where the uh where the uh letters went out. So, the last thing that we want people to do is be uninformed or be caught by surprise and have their minds racing about waking up the next morning and going to work and not knowing like which whatever. It's like I said, the key takeaway is it's an emotional posi- position that they're in.

And the only way to really resolve the emotional uh state of mind is to uh just make sure that we are listening sufficiently and addressing their concerns and having them understand that uh the number one goal is to keep them safe, keep the Bay Road safe, and reduce their anxiety any way that we can. Thank you, Kevin. >> Thanks, Kevin. >> [clears throat] >> All right, on to regular town business. I have reviewed the minutes for the May 7th meeting as we did not have a workshop and I would make a motion that we approve said minutes. I'll second. Supervisor Sheldon? Aye. Councilman Hunter? Aye. Councilman Cahill?

Aye. Councilwoman Wright? Aye. Councilman Wagner? Aye. All right, Councilwoman Wright, you had the dubious honors of the bills. Yes, I have reviewed the bills and it was a light week. Um and they are all in order and I move to approve the bills as submitted by the director of finance. Second. Councilwoman Wright? Aye. Councilman Wagner? Aye. Supervisor Sheldon? Aye. Councilman Cahill? Aye. Councilman Hunter? Aye. All right, I would make a motion that we approve the prepaid warrant as submitted by the director of finance. I'll second. Supervisor Sheldon? Aye. Councilman Hunter? Aye. Councilman Cahill?

Aye. Councilwoman Wright? >> Aye. Councilman Wagner? Aye. >> [snorts] >> I would also make a motion that we approve purchase orders as submitted by the director of finance. Second. Supervisor Sheldon? Aye. Councilwoman Wright? >> Aye. Councilman Cahill? Aye. Councilman Hunter? Aye. Councilman Wagner? Aye. >> [snorts] >> All right, John. All you for the next phase of Vosburgh. Uh so I'll move to uh see resolution from the sewer department to authorize supervisor to sign contract with MRB Group 4 $311,250 to prepare a bid packet and provide construction administration and observation services um the Vosper pump station.

So, just to elaborate a little bit, I read the contract and the supplement that was submitted. I did have a question that I emailed to Rick, copied everyone on the board and on with respect to the master schedule. Rick, where's Rick? Rick contacted the gentleman that sent over the information. You confirmed it. The master schedule will be part of the RFP that is sent out. So, that's my motion, but I just wanted to clarify the question I had earlier. Thank you, John. I'll second. Councilman Kayal. Aye. Supervisor Sheldon. Aye. Councilman Wright. Aye. Councilman Hunter. Aye. Councilman Wagner. Aye.

All right. Up next, we're looking for the construction administration services for our salt barn. Councilwoman Wright, as you are the liaison to highway, would you like to expand on it or just make a motion? >> Well, Pat's here. Pat, would you like to provide overview of what's what's happened or what changed with the construction administration? Uh sure. It was uh this particular contract was a bit of a process. Uh we we started a process with an RFP um to try to minimize the cost of this as we as we always do. Uh there was a little bit of segmentation of it where we considered uh pulling in multiple uh consultants to do different pieces of this scope.

Uh during that process, uh we basically um learned that there's a there's a very strong legal obligation between the structural designer uh of the of the project and some of these construction services. So, basically that means if if you're the designer of record for a project uh or the engineer of record for a project, there are certain legal obligations that you have as that designer to verify the construction of your design. And that responsibility is not easily transferred from one firm or one engineer to another. Um so we ended up regrouping, uh putting everything back into one package, and uh connecting with the engineer of record, which is MRB, uh to get a proposal.

Now, that's the proposal that's presented here. Um this we had we're always hoping to, um you know, improve and and get bids that are under the budget. This one is within the budget, just barely. Uh so it's it's on the higher end of what we had hoped for, but it does track with the outline for the project. It doesn't cause any overages with our our uh planned budget. And I believe it will fulfill the needs of the project. So that's why we're bringing it here tonight uh for signature. Thanks for the clarification, Pat. Um you bring up a very important point, and that is that we hire a firm with respect to a project, our options with respect to construction administration, construction management is very limited due to the contract itself, which makes it even more important that we before we embark upon a project of these magnitudes, that we send out RFPs for the engineering services, because essentially they own the drawings.

And if you're going to bring in a different company to to consult, to manage, to oversee, um they don't own the drawings. And and that that's that's that's the what is at the issue with respect to some of these fees, um which which are fairly significant. So, going forward, and I applaud the finance department for putting forward a policy that mandates us to send out RFPs for engineering services if it reaches a certain level estimate. Um I would say that as a board um we don't necessarily have to go to the 50,000 if we feel that it's a significant enough project, but the engineering services are going to be a little bit under the 50,000, we have the latitude to request an RFP for those services.

And if you look at some of these numbers, it's something that is to be taken into consideration in my opinion. But thank you, Pat. Yep. Yeah, thank you. >> something new every day. I think Pat overall I really appreciate the work you put into this. Like there's a lot of moving pieces in this, and you've done a good job trying to lay it out and and everything that happened, and it gives me a lot of faith going forward that you're going to be in the best spot to manage this actively so it doesn't have other issues. Um yeah, clearly we've had a little some, you know, MRB, and even in this MRB contract they state that like part of the contingency of this is we had to pay them the thing we agreed to last time for a certain time frame, so that they're on it.

And yeah, it seems like the whole engineer of record caused a little bit of a rub where now like we're not going with the lowest bid, we're going with MRB because of the engineer of record, and that causes but friction per se, but because of the engineer of record legal I have legalness kind of legality I guess that like that gets us that gets us around our legality. What about I'm not sure if I like that doesn't sound the most like elegant, but like you get it. But yeah, so you know, Pat, I really appreciate all your work cuz this is a lot of moving complex pieces. Okay. All right. Well, thank you, Pat, for the explanation.

And yes, going through this process was like many things, it's a learning opportunity on how to do things better in the future. Um from a contract negotiation perspective, I would say that's not on your part, Pat, either. I I accept some of that responsibility cuz I laid in the tracks for this one. Um >> [clears throat] >> But with that, I move to authorize the supervisor to sign a contract with MRB for construction administration services on the salt barn truck wash out building in the amount of $214,800. Second. Councilman Wright. >> Aye. Councilman Kehoe. >> Aye. Supervisor Sheldon. Aye. Councilman Hunter.

Aye. Councilman Wagner. Aye. All right. Up next, we've done the audits for a couple of our smaller departments, but this was the audit that Bengle Metzger Bar & Co. LLP put together, but Councilman Wagner as our director of finance is not here and you are the CPA. Would you like to give a little brief explanation of this one in your presentation? >> I've I've coordinated with Paul. And Alex, just to clarify, we had was done agreed upon procedures done before, which is less in scope. The audit does the full town and so our finance records Um so if you ever want to see it, it it shows the whole the assets, the liabilities, the income and expenses of the town by department.

It's a fabulous fabulous read. It's like 60 pages. I mean, there's charts, there's graphs, there's numbers. You'll like it. If you get a physical copy, it's got a really nice cover, too. Yes, but they bind those well. The biggest thing that I agree with what Paul you wanted to say is the town was issued an unqualified opinion and no material weaknesses were identified. The town remains in excellent financial position with substantial surplus available. Those are some accounting words that essentially say when they did the audit, they didn't have any findings. An unqualified opinion means they found no issues with it.

And no material weaknesses means they didn't identify any problems in our accounting or controls to raise to our attention. So, that's really the best report we can get. So, that's a good thing. Any other questions from the board on the audit? Nope. No, it was a good audit. I agree. Oh, yeah. And Paul and his team do a wonderful job for us. They sure do. Yes, they do. Oh, absolutely. He deserves his vacation at the moment, but um Councilman, would you like to make the motion? >> I'll make a a motion to accept the 2025 basic financial statement audit report dated May 5th, 2026 as prepared by Mengel, Metzger, Bar and Company, LLP.

Second. Councilman Wagner. Aye. Councilwoman Wright. >> Aye. Supervisor Sheldone. Aye. Councilman Cahill. Aye. Councilman Hunter. Aye. Up next, we have a uh this is one that I've been informed happens a lot for restaurants for it. Um but, Demeanes, since this came through your office, would you like to give a brief explanation of why restaurants require or request these? Yeah, so um occasionally we will have a uh restaurant come through applying for their New York State liquor license. And typically with the process, they have the option to wave the 30-day um notification to the municipality that they're located in.

And it's not really like shortening that 30 days, it's just saying we acknowledge the 30 days, but we're also going to send our application to the state to sort of shorten up that time frame. Rather than waiting the full 30 days and then applying, they're giving their 30-day notice and applying at the same time. Um I did check with Josh Artuso, um the director of community planning, and there are no zoning issues. They're really just taking up space from a prior restaurant that it's you know, same space. It's nothing new. Um so there's no, you know, issues as far as zoning. Um and that's pretty much all of the information that I have.

All right. Councilman Wagner, as liaison. Would you like to do the honors? Sure. I will make a a motion to accept the resolution requested from the town clerk's office to waive the New York State Liquor Authority on premise alcohol beverage license 30-day notification period requirement for Tempo Italian Kitchen and Bar Inc. at 807A Ridge Road, Webster, New York. I'll second. Councilman Wagner. Aye. Supervisor Sheldrake. Aye. Councilman Cahill. Aye. Councilwoman Wright. Aye. Councilman Hunter. Aye. All right. Up next, uh and this is a good one to have for historical preservation. So, Webster Union Cemetery, been around for a very long time.

They have Revolutionary War veterans actually buried in this in this property. And I've had to learn a great deal about cemeteries, abandoned cemeteries, and municipal responsibilities involving cemeteries. So, one of the things I learned was a cement cement Oh my god, I have this word. Cemetarian uh can basically, if they were to say they don't want to do it anymore, it 100% falls onto the town. Um and so we thank them for all the work that they do in this. And we've had a precedent of every time, especially in this cemetery when it has been uh up for an expansion that we waive the $120 fee. And I you know, I feel it's a good neighbor for this.

They're doing this. It's not a typical nonprofit. This is something that if it doesn't if they don't do it, it's our responsibility. So, um I just would like to make a motion to waive the $120 fee for a site plan application before the planning board associated with the proposed expansion of Webster Union Cemetery located at 345 Webster Road. Second. >> [clears throat] >> Supervisor Sheldon. Aye. Councilman Cahill. Aye. Councilwoman Wright. >> Aye. Councilman Hunter. Aye. [clears throat] Councilman Wagner. Aye. And for anyone interested, we will be doing tours of Webster Union Cemetery soon. Uh In the fall.

Coming up in the fall. In the fall. Yes, that one's in the fall. The headstone cleaning is coming up. Uh but in the fall we'll be having tours of those led by George Baker, the cem- cemetarian. >> [laughter] >> On there and it's it's it is truly truly fascinating going through there. So. Um up next, John, this is sewer. Cahill make a motion to authorize the town clerk to advertise to solicit bids for poly Palmer chemicals to dewater sludge at the wastewater treatment plant. Um the advertisement to be in the Webster Herald on 527 with bids due no later than 6/8. [clears throat] Second. Councilman Cahill.

Aye. Councilwoman Wright. >> Aye. Supervisor Sheldon. Aye. Councilman Hunter. Aye. Councilman Wagner. Aye. All right. We are coming back up to the chief of police to salary. Now, um last week they board very nicely tried to stop me from becoming destitute. Um I figured that mind so we all got together with the director of finance to find a proper way to deal with it this year and then find the nice legal way to adjust for the compression issues. Um so Nick, we found a nice little line item that director of finance did that is due for a surplus and the board agreed and I thank you guys for your attentiveness to this matter and the work that you've all put in.

So, Nick. Yeah, I just want to add just real quick before we go, you know, thank the whole team for coming together. This is important issue. You know, John, Jennifer, and Kelsey did a lot of work. Paul and Kyle leaned in as well on kind of what was the right legal and accounting way to do it. Cuz it's important. Some of these things are you know you know Jennifer you know I've talked about this complex and hard and like this is one where we want to fix it but we want to do it right. We want to do it legal. We want to take care of our people, the taxpayers, everybody. So great job everybody. Yeah, so this is going to take care part of it.

Part of it. Yes, we're going to affix the rest of it. >> So the the issue that created this compression was what's called the COLA. The cost of living allowance. So both the chief and the captain are classified as white collar employees of the department. They're not hourly, they're white white collar. >> [snorts] >> So COLA exists in what's known as the thousand club which pertains to um the rank and file of the police department. Their COLAs are typically 1 to 2% higher than the department head white collar COLAs. So that's the issue. You had the chief was in the white collar COLA. You had the the captain was in the 1000 club COLA.

So as time goes on the pay pay compression exists because of those two issues which is an issue that is not part of this resolution at this time because it's going to come up as part of the budget issue in 2027. Which is the vehicle I have been instructed by our attorney that is the proper manner to address that. We don't have to agree who should be in which COLA aspect the thousand club or the white collars at this time. But I'm pretty sure there's going to be some robust conversations going forward of who should be in which. So, I just wanted to clarify, edify a little bit as to the fact that this issue is not closed yet.

Yeah. Thank you. Thanks, John. Um so, I'm I'll make a motion to set a resolution to do a budget transfer of $5,943 from account A3120.40128, the vehicle gasoline, to A3120.10035, the chief of police salary. I'll second. Councilman Hunter. I. Supervisor Sheldon. I. Councilman Cahill. I. Councilwoman Wright. [clears throat] I. Councilman Wagner. I. All right. This seems to be all sewer all the time today. Councilman Cahill, you're up. Okay. Make a motion to approve the following for recycling from the sewer department. I'm not going to go through every one. I'm just going to reference the list that was provided.

That's my motion. >> I'll second. Councilman Cahill. I. Supervisor Sheldon. I. Councilwoman Wright. I. Councilman Hunter. I. Councilman Wagner. I. All right. This next one's coming from my office. Um I've never actually seen this wooden desk. It was from the previous administration. I guess it was in storage, and they're finally looking to get rid of it. Um so, my assistant, Kim, asked me if we could get this taken care of the right way. So, I would like to make a motion to approve a wooden desk for recycling from the supervisor's office. I'll second. Supervisor Sheldon. I. Councilman Hunter. I.

Councilman Cahill. I. Councilwoman Wright. Hi. Councilman Wagner. Hi. All right. Thank you all for coming. Uh I will now close the meeting. Have a good evening.

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