WEBSTER TOWN PLANNING BOARD MINUTES
Webster Town Board Meeting Room 1002 Ridge Road
7:00 p.m.
3 January 2023
ABSENT:
Anthony Casciant, Chairman
Dave Malta, Vice Chairman
Mark Giardina, Secretary
Derek Anderson
John Kosel
Derek Meixell
Jennifer Wright
Kyle Taylor, Attorney
Josh Artuso, Director of Community Development
Katherine Kolich, Recording Secretary
Pledge of Allegiance/Roll call
Welcome to the January 3, 2023 Planning Board meeting. We have five ttems
on our agenda. There was a publish in the paper that there was an oil change place or something
that was supposed to be coming, can you hear me, ok? I’m sorry, an oil change place was going
to be coming in and there was controversary on Facebook and about more crap coming into
town, but that thing has been withdrawn. It is not coming in today. It is not in at all. They have
withdrawn their application. So, anybody that is listening, instead of writing and complaining
about how we do things wrong, just be aware that it is not true. Its gone.
So that is not coming tn at all?
it’s not coming in at all. They have withdrawn their application. Ok, so with
that said, why don’t you go ahead and start with the first one.
Summary overview of outcome:
915 HARD ROAD-FAIRFIELD INN BY MARRIOTT/SIGN
Rebecca Toombs
APPROVED ON CONDITION: ADD STREET ADDRESS TO MONUMENT
SIGN
1170 RIDGE ROAD-FRONTIER KITCHENS/SIGN
Elevated Sign Solutions
APPROVED AS PRESENTED
927 HOLT ROAD-NAUTICAL BOWLS/SIGN
Jamie Sclazo
APPROVED AS PRESENTED
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189 BASKET ROAD-ACCESSORY BLDG
Timothy Lawton
APPROVED AS PRESENTED
169 PHILLIPS ROAD-SUBDIVISION/SKETCH REVIEW
169 Phillips Road LLC
CONCEPT REVIEW
1045 RIDGE ROAD-TAKE 5 OIL CHANGE
Betsy Brugg
APPLICANT WITHDREW APPLICATION
(Mark Giardina read the first application):
Located at 915 Hard Road. Applicant Rebecca
Toombs of Roc Signs is requesting SIGN APPROVAL associated with the replacement of (3)
existing building mounted signs and (1) monument sign to reflect rebranding of the Fairfield Inn
on a 2.19-acre parcel having SBL# 079.1 t-1-21.2 located in an HC High Intensity Commercial
District under Section 265-7 of the Code of the Town of Webster.
Appearing before the board was (never stated her name but going by what is on the application)
Rebecca Toombs. Like he said, we are going to replace the existing channel letters. So, there are
three sets on each side of the building, and they are going to be 30-inch sets which is the same as
one of the other sets. The other set was a 24-inch set and it's going to be a 30-inch set and same
with the third and we are also going to be replacing the monument sign. There is not going to be
any digging. We are just going to be replacing the top cabinet with a brand-new cabinet.
Now, the monument sign is going?
It is the same exact place so the base and everything was there. It is just that
top portion with the Fairfield Inn part on it that gets replaced.
Yup, ok. I don’t see any issues with it. The letters just look a little bit better,
Fairfield Inn by Marriott and the other one...
Yes, it 1s actually less letters and new LED’s, more efficient.
Yes.
Can they put the address on the monument sign or the street numbers anyways, is
that possible?
Let's see, we are putting them on the building . Is it not on the monument?
It doesn’t show it on the monument.
But you would like the 915 on it?
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It’s got 915 but I don’t know where...
The 915 is on the building.
It is on the building,
The 915 ts on the building and that is newly being added to the building. It
looks like.
Yes, but the trouble ts, you have to drive in under the canopy in order to
know that itis at
915. If you already found the place, you don’t need the address. So, really the
ideal place would be to have it on your monument sign so people going down the road.
Do you want that to be eliminated or can it just be vinyl?
No, personally, ] don’t think it needs to be illuminated. Just as long as it’s on
there because it will be noticeable to people.
It going to be just white with the blue background?
Yes, we will probably just do white, and we can either stick it right under
Marriott or we can put it on the base, so it’s separate from the sign.
Whatever works. Just somewhere in the area of the sign.
Ok. Do you want me to just get a new drawing to you?
No, just put it on and mark it and have it for the record.
No problem.
It would probably be better on the base since there is nothing on the base
anyways and then it keeps the sign clean.
That is what I was thinking and then they don’t have to change anything they
would just be adding.
Ok, that is fine. Anything else?
RESOLUTION
Town of Webster Planning Board considered the request by Applicant, Rebecca Toombs of Roc
Signs to replace three (3) existing building mounted signs and one (1) monument sign for
Fairfield Inn focated at 915 Hard Road on a 2.19-acre parcel having SBL# 079.1 1-1-21.2.
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The Planning Board classifies the proposed action to be a Type II Action under Section
617.5(c)(2) of the State Environmental Review (SEQR) Regulations and therefore is not subject
to further review.
RESOLUTION 23-001 Derek Anderson made a motion for TYPE H
SEQR which was seconded by Derek Meixell.
VOTE:
Mr. Anderson AYE
Mr. Kosel AYE
Mr. Matta AYE
Mr. Meixell AYE
Mr. Casciani AYE
Mr. Giardina AYE
Mrs. Wright AYE
RESOLUTION 23-002 John Kose! a made a motion for
Located at 915 Hard Road.
Applicant Rebecca Toombs of Roc Signs is
requesting SIGN APPROVAL associated with the
replacement of (3) existing building mounted signs
and (1) monument sign to reflect rebranding of the
Fairfield Inn on a 2.19-acre parcel having SBL#
079.11-1-21.2 located in an HC High Intensity
Commercial District under Section 265-7 of the
Code of the Town of Webster which was seconded
by Derek Meixell.
VOTE:
Mr. Anderson AYE
Mr. Kosel AYE
Mr. Malta AYE
Mr. Meixell AYE
Mr. Casciani AYE
Mr. Giardina AYE
Mrs. Wright AYE
CONDITION:
ADD STREET ADDRESS TO MONUMENT SIGN
(Mark Giardina read the second application):
Located at 1170 Ridge Road. Applicant Elevated Sign
Solutions is requesting SIGN APPROVAL associated with the installation of a 44 SF building
mounted sign to reflect a new business within the Jackson Crossing Plaza on a 3.05-acre parcel
having SBL# 080.09-3-1.31 located in an MC Medium Intensity Commercial District under
Section 265-7 of the Code of the Town of Webster
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Appearing before the board was (never stated his name) So we are working with Frontier
Kitchens to put up a set of new LED channel letters. They are not officially in the building as of
right now from what | understand. It is the old Rochester and Linoleum and Carpet place, and I
believe it is getting subdivided into a couple different spots. So, they are just going to occupy the
area that you can see on the drawing on the right side of the old building. So, proposing channel
letters on that bottom orange section. That is what was there previously . Rochester Linoleum
and Carpet had two sets of a little bit smaller letters there and they used to be yellow, so these are
just going to be backlit; stud mounted; and we are going to go with gray vinyl on the faces just to
match all of their branding. Frontier Kitchens has another facility out in Batavia with similar
signage, so we are just trying to match that in the new location.
What do they sell? Obviously, kitchen stuff or do they...
So, they do kitchen cabinetry .
I am going to give you some commercial time here.
My father actually owns the business but yes, they do kitchen cabinetry stuff.
Now the color in the picture I think that is fine, but the color hardly shows.
It’s a little bit hard to tell in the picture and especially what kind of printer you have .
So, it will have a black trim cap around it as well so it will kind of outline. It’s a little difficult to
show in a drawing but you can kind of see what | was going for there but again, once they are
illuminated, | don’t think there will be any issue with the contrast there so.
Ok, anybody? Any questions or concerns?
No, i(s great something is going in that building finally, it’s been vacant for a
long time.
Ok, want to do a SEQR on it?
RESOLUTION
Town of Webster Planning Board considered the request by Applicant, Elevated Sign Solutions
to install a 44 square foot building mounted sign for Frontier Kitchens located at 1170 Ridge
Road on a 3,05-acre parcel having SBL # 080.09-3-1.31.
The Planning Board classifies the proposed action to be a Type I] Action under Section
617.5(c)(2) of the State Environmental Review (SEQR) Regulations and therefore is not subject
to further review.
RESOLUTION 23-003 Derek Anderson made a motion for TYPE II
SEQR which was seconded by Derek Meixell.
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VOTE:
Mr. Anderson AYE
Mr. Kosel AYE
Mr. Malta AYE
Mr. Meixell AYE
Mr. Casciani AYE
Mr. Giardina AYE
Mrs. Wright AYE
RESOLUTION 23-004 Jennifer Wright made a motion for
[170 Ridge Road. Applicant
Elevated Sign Solutions is requesting SIGN
APPROVAL associated with the installation of a
44 SF building mounted sign to reflect a new
business within the Jackson Crossing Plaza on a
3.05-acre parcel having SBL# 080.09-3-1.31
located in an MC Medium Intensity Commercial
District under Section 265-7 of the Code of the
Town of Webster which was seconded by Derek
Meixell.
VOTE:
Mr. Anderson AYE
Mr. Kosel AYE
Mr. Malta AYE
Mr. Meixell AYE
Mr. Casciani AYE
Mr. Giardina AYE
Mrs. Wright AYE
(Mark Giardina read the third application):
Located at 927 Holt Road. Applicant Vital Signs, on behalf of
Jamie Scalzo, is requesting SIGN APPROVAL associated with the installation of a 33 SF
building mounted sign to reftect a new business within the Towne Center Plaza on a 6.40-acre
parcel having SBL# 079.12-1-19.122 located in an HC High Intensity Commercial District under
Section 265-7 of the Code of the Town of Webster.
Appearing before the board was (did not stated her name) we are just requesting exterior channel
lettering for our sign. It is where the old Yankee Candle used to be.
What was there, I’m sorry?
It was Yankee Candle. They were there about 2 2-3 years ago. So, we have started
our build out process working with Vital Signs. They are 34.75 in height and the sign width is
210 inches, it will be white back lit channel letters.
What is the background? Are you putting a new background on it?
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No, we are just going to put iton what they have there currently. It is going to be
flush mounted,
Does the fagade need to be cleaned up where the old sign was ?
No. Everything has been cleaned up and looks good. It is ready for install.
Ok. What is Nautical Bowls, what is that?
So Nautical Bowls was started in Minnesota and by husband and I bought into the
franchise, and we are bringing it here. We are actually the first ones in New York to open. The
goal is to have about 12 locations between here and buffalo. It is all acai bowls and all organic;
gluten free; soy free bowls and they are different flavored patatas and they are really, really
good.
You should have brought one of your menus. (LAUGHTER)
I do have “coming soon flyers” menus. (LAUGHTER) it has a QR code with our
menu on il.
Good luck with it.
Thank you we are very excited.
Ok, no issues. Let’s do a SEQR.
RESOLUTION
Town of Webster Planning Board considered the request by Applicant, Vital Signs on behalf of
Jamie Scalzo, to install a 33 square foot building mounted sign located at 927 Holt Road on a
6.40 acres parcel having SBL# 079.12-1-19.122.
The Planning Board classifies the proposed action to be a Type II Action under Section
617,3(c)(2) of the State Environmental Review (SEQR) Regulations and therefore is not subject
to further review.
RESOLUTION 23-005 Derek Anderson made a motion for TYPE H
SEQR which was seconded by Jennifer Wright.
VOTE:
Mr. Anderson AYE
Mr. Kosel AYE
Mr. Malta AYE
Mr, Meixell AYE
Mr. Casciani NAY
Mr. Giardina AYE
Mrs. Wright AYE
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RESOLUTION 23-006 John Kosel a made a motion for
927 Holt Road. Applicant
Vital Signs, on behalf of Jamie Scalzo, is requesting
SIGN APPROVAL associated with the installation
of a 33 SF building mounted sign to reflect a new
business within the Towne Center Plaza on a 6.40
acre parcel having SBL# 079.12-1-19.122 located in
an HC High Intensity Commercial District under
Section 265-7 of the Code of the Town of Webster.
which was seconded by Derek Meixell.
VOTE:
Mr. Anderson AYE
Mr. Kosel AYE
Mr. Malta AYE
Mr. Meixell AYE
Mr. Casciani AYE
Mr. Giardina AYE
Mrs. Wright AYE
Good lunch with your project.
Thank you very much, I appreciate it.
(Mark Giardina read the fourth application):
189 BASKET ROAD ACCESSORY BUILDING: Located at 189 Basket Road. Applicant
Timothy Lawton is requesting PRELIMINARY / FINAL SITE PLAN APPROVAL
(
PUBLIC HEARING
) associated with the construction of a 1,200 SF accessory building on a
1.19-acre parcel having SBL# 051.01-1-3.15 located in an LL Large Lot Single Family
Residential District under Sections 269-11 and 350-36 of the Code of the Town of Webster.
Appearing before the board was Timothy Lawton. Good evening, | am Tim Lawton, and this is
my wife Marie Lawton, Happy New Year. So, we are requesting for review of the accessory
building. It is 24 x 50, and it will have 10-foot-wide lean-to off one of the long sides on the north
side and the building will be £0 foot tall.
INAUDIBLE barn,
Yes, that is a representative. They are kind of hard to come up with drawings
of those.
Is it the same colors that you are going to have?
Have not picked the colors yet. We are kind of working on that.
Is there going to be water or electricity out there, gas?
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It will have electricity.
And the purpose of it is?
Basically storage. [am a car, motorcycle, and boat guy so. Just trying to get it
under cover and other things... (LAUGHTER) it’s really more for her.
[ am going to ask Josh, on the paperwork here, it shows it as a concept and a
subdivision approval, but we have it as preliminary final.
It’s for 169 and Phillips Road is the next item.
Ok.
For 189 Basket Road the application is circled concept so, maybe that was a
mistake.
Yes, but it was publicized correctly
It is preliminary and final?
Correct and it’s published correctly. Ok, so where are we? It’s meets all the
setbacks ok now; you have a ten foot over hand you are showing on there, right?
That is correct.
You are including that in your square footage ?
That is not in the square footage. That would be an extra ten on the northside
of that building. I didn’t know if we had to include that or not, if it’s not enclosed. It’s just a
roof, is what It is.
Is it the same height?
It will be eight foot at ... it’s ten at the wall and eight foot the other way.
So, there is no intention of closing that in then?
No.
Now how far are you from the actual wood deck from your house?
I would say it is about even with he wood deck looking at it from the ... I
think the deck is 16 feet wide.
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From the looks of it, and [am looking at the side of your house, the way it
scales out and where it shows 21 foot, that is about the same space, so I am guessing it ts 21 foot
from your house.
I think we measured 16-17 feet.
From the house, right? Yeah, it looks like it’s close.
Yes, I did my best to scale this thing.
Well, it looks like the lot is large enough to accommodate that size.
Yes, as long as it doesn’t interfere with anything. Are you on sewer there or
septic?
Septic
That doesn’t interfere with it?
No. The septic is actually on the INAUIDBLE of the house and then the leech
fields are actually in the front of the house.
Ok.
It’s an engineered leech in front of it.
Ok. | don’t have any issues with it. Anybody?
If the open area was enclosed would that sull be within the allowed use?
Yes, he still fits ok.
INAUDIBLE
He is quite away from the lot line.
I calculated and it’s...
Ok, this is a public hearing if there is anyone here wishing to speak for or
against this project. | am not seeing anyone so we will! close it and bring it back to the board.
Anybody have any questions or issues with 1t? Now, are you building it yourself or is somebody
doing it .
We are still talking to contractors. A contractor will build it.
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Alright, I] guess we can make a motion to it. Does anyone want to do SEQR
on il, Derek.
RESOLUTION
Town of Webster Planning Board considered the request by Applicant, Timothy Lawton to
construct a 1,200 square foot accessory structure located at 189 Basket Road on a |.19-acre
parce] having SBL# 051.01-1-3.15.
The Planning Board classifies the proposed action to be a Type If Action under Section
617.5(c)(9) of the State Environmental Review (SEQR) Regulations and therefore is not subject
to further review.
One correction | would like to make to that, is the name. You have Lawson
and its Lawton.
Yes, that is what I have on the sheet here. Ok, we will make sure it is
corrected.
RESOLUTION 23-007 Derek Anderson made a motion for TYPE II
SEQR which was seconded by John Kosel.
VOTE:
Mr. Anderson AYE
Mr. Kosel AYE
Mr. Malta AYE
Mr. Meixell AYE
Mr. Casciani NAY
Mr. Giardina AYE
Mrs. Wright AYE
RESOLUTION 23-008 Tony Casciani a made a motion for
927 Holt Road.
Applicant Vital Signs, on behalf of Jamie Scalzo, is
requesting PRELIMINARY APPROVAL
associated with the installation of a 33 SF building
mounted sign to reflect a new business within the
Towne Center Plaza on a 6,40-acre parcel having
SBL# 079, 12-1-19.122 located in an HC High
Intensity Commercial District under Section 265-7
of the Code of the Town of Webster which was
seconded by Mark Giardina.
VOTE:
Mr. Anderson AYE
Mr. Kosel AYE
Mr. Malta AYE
Mr. Meixell AYE
Mr. Casciani AYE
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Mr. Giardina AYE
Mrs. Wright AYE
Tony, we need to do a final on it.
(calling applicants back tn to make a final approval) Applicant came back
into the room.
RESOLUTION 23-009 Tony Casciani a made a motion for
927 Holt Road. Applicant
Vital Signs, on behalf of Jamie Scalzo, is requesting
FINAL APPROVAL associated with the
installation of a 33 SF building mounted sign to
reflect a new business within the Towne Center
Plaza on a 6.40-acre parcel having SBL# 079. 12-1-
19.122 located in an HC High Intensity Commercial
District under Section 265-7 of the Code of the
Town of Webster which was seconded by Derek
Meixell.
VOTE:
Mr. Anderson AYE
Mr. Kosel AYE
Mr. Malta AYE
Mr. Meixell AYE
Mr. Casciani AYE
Mr. Giardina AYE
Mrs. Wright AYE
(Mark Giardina read the fifth application):
Located at 169 Phillips Road. Applicant 169 Phillips
Road LLC is requesting SKETCH PLAN REVIEW of a proposed 4-lot single family
residential subdivision and site plan on a 1|1.9-acre parcel having SBL# 050.01-1-65 located in
an R-| Single Family Residential District under Section 269-5 of the Code of the Town of
Webster.
Appearing before the board was Don Lewis with DH Lewis representing the three owners of this
property. There intention is to subdivide the property into four residential lots . One for each of
them to build their own homes and then another to sell off to promote some capital to do their
development. We have been working at this project for probably about a year. If you are familiar
with the location the property is at the corner of Lake Road and Phillips Road on the southwest
corner and there is a house on the corner that was subdivided off by this board a year before, so
this is the remaining lot with a horse barn that was left on this property. So, one of these lots will
have a horse barn as one of the subdivided lots for one of the new houses that is the tot that is
intended to be sold off and again, if you are familiar with this location the sewer 1s all around this
property but there is hardly any sewer access that is why it too so long to get something before
you to review, We attempted to do perk tests; pul in septic systems; the soils out there are terrible
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and not only that, all the surrounding ... this is a low point as far as grade goes so if was very
difficult to deal with some ground water issues there as well. So, we had meetings with
neighbors to see if we can get into the gravity sewers that are in the adjacent subdivisions and
that didn’t work, We ended up with the help of the Sewer Department and some meetings, we
are going to access the gravity sewer that is across the street, across Lake Road and Creeks Edge
subdivision. They have a manhole and it’s up by the right of way and it dead ends coming up the
hill to Lake Ave where their main access road ts. We are going to bore under the road and
connect onto to that and then everything we have will gravity to that and then that ends up
getting...round about, it goes around and pumped back up in the sewer pump and it’s right
across the street, which is ironic, we can’t get to it but that is how it ends up being.
As far as the site layout, it’s pretty simple. There is a common drive for two lots that will be in
the back off INAUDIBLE (applicant not using the mic but showing plans) two bigger lots back
here and like I said, there is an existing pole barn that site here and there use to be a stable with
house on corner and that had subdivided off INAUDIBLE smaller lot off of Lake Road.
So that lot will and that is the one I am looking at I believe, it’s a 125 foot
Yes, when they subdivided that off, they made sure that they subdivided off to meet
the lot minimum.
Does that meet the requirement?
It was a 125 feet.
It is a 106 in the back. So, what is the mean lot width of that to make it legal.
| think we did work previously with an engineer that the origina! owners had, and
Planning Board and PRC was involved. We did determine that it meets the minimum
(INAUDIBLE speaking at the same time as Josh)
Right.
Walt Baker did it and Doug INAUDIBLE
Correct
And he did the survey for this as well.
Ok, so lot one is 339 feet deep. Lot two, that has the barn on it and that
driveway wil] be coming off of Phillips Road there.
That is correct. (Not using the mic) there is an existing driveway to that barn for
INAUDIBLE (plans rattling)
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Anthony Casciani; Ok, so now when you come in and then you have lot three and four, why are
they triangles? Why not.... ] mean the driveway is going across both lots anyways.
INAUDIBLE (not using the mic) They have a common driveway with the required
fire access turn INAUDIBLE water services along that driveway and turn off INAUDIBLE
which is required .
Just the way you are coming in, how could you do anything other than a triangle
because you are coming in...
At one time they were going to have a fifth lot and they decided...(both parties
speaking at the same time)
It goes north to south
Two of the owners will live on large lots and the third owner is going to live on the
Lake Road lot and they were going to have a fifth lot out front, there was going to be two new
lots on Phillips Road and then ended up with one because they didn’t want to look in the back of
the new house.
Well, how would you square it off?
Well, just north south and just divide it right there.
Because it is land locked.
No, you have the driveways coming in off of Phillips Road here anyways.
You have the same thing only thing, instead of the line going long like this, it would just be north
to south, Cut it in half, see what I’m saying?
No
(not using the mic) The layout of the houses has to do with the topography and the
way the trees are now and the views that they wanted. They didn’t want to have two long skinny
lots like this. They were trying to take advantage... this lot here sits up a little higher (showing
on the plans) then the other ones and this one, it’s a real low area (paper rattling) INAUDIBLE
here and keeping all the buffers along here and he is not touching any of this. The grading stays
really tight around the houses, and we don’t have septic to deal with either, so we don’t have to
do a Jot of yard drainage and grading, and they are just into the trees there now where the
development is, so they are only going to be doing some limited backyard stuff. They are trying
to do minimal grading as possible and dealing with some drainage and finally get relieved and
get out to the county, the counties drainage system because it is kind of landlocked in there now.
It's kind of a bowl and we are going to grade it and get it out to the counties drainage system.
Even though we are at concept stage, John Ravens already looked at this plan and gave me
minimal details and a couple changes and the county is good with almost everything that is on
the plans, including the road bore and like I said, we met with the town, not the town Highway
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Department but just the Sewer Department and their maintenance guy and that is where we got
the idea to. The sewer is going to be dedicated back to here with... behind lot 2 INAUDIBLE the
barn and it would be a sewer and easement owned by the town. Its going to be installed and paid
for by the owners but that gives them access for al] three of them or all four lots to have gravity
drain.
I see on you grading plan where you are locating the houses.
Yes, and that was...
Yes, that makes sense.
Yes, it’s hard to depict on site layout.
Your right
Trying to maintain all the buffering from around there because it has been like this
for years without disturbing neighbors that are all INAUDIBLE surrounding everything. Its a
piece of property that never got developed with the rest of the stuff. Because the owners before
this had used this as a horse stable. It has been a well-maintained property over the years. (NOT
USING THE MIC) When they subdivided this property off, they had to do the septic in here and
it is not the best shape as it is, so we are leaving a stub off of this main INAUDIBLE (both
parties talking)
To connect, smart move.
And I don’t know what the situation is along here. (Showing on the plans and not
using the mic) for these people. ] am assuming they are connected to sewers because sewers run
along this.
] was going to ask you, if the current houses are along Lake Road, they must
be on sewers.
I think they are still on septic. We are going to leave a manhole by the request of the
Sewer Department (not using the mic) bringing it across the south side INAUDIBLE so the town
if they wanted to create another district to pick these people up. These are force main that comes
here and there 1s a pump station somewhere in this neighborhood and like I] said, the sewer line is
right here.
Yes, the pump station is down over the hill there in the back.
(not using the mic) Lam sorry, the force main comes across. INAUDIBLE (both
parties speaking at the same time)
The pump station is down more. This isn’t a public hearing but if there is
anyone wishing lo speak. Come up and give us your name and address.
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John Lauff at 1386 Meadow breeze: and that abuts the south side of the development almost
right behind the house that is proposed on lot
3. My concern is with drainage. As you noted,
this area is wet all the time. My backyard right now, the last ten feet in the spring is usually
underwater for a week or two and when we have a bad rain fall, you can’t even mow the lawn
there, so lam concerned about any additional drainage coming in from lot
3. Jennifer Wright: Can you talk into the microphone so everyone can hear you please.
The topography, if you are along one of these lots to the south (showing on the
plans) this is a high point right here. Everything right now, currently, with the wet condition you
are talking about on this property, this is all low. This whole property here, this property is up so
everybody else drains onto us, so we are not contributing anything.
(not using the mic) but are you building up the property? INAUDIBLE will it be
higher
(not using the mic) Only like a person would to build their house above grade so
that... you know, grade drains off but the way I have it shown there is a high point in the back
yard and side yard of this house and it still drains in the back INAUDIBLE. Everything is
designed is drained to go into the county DOT collection system. So, it is already low in here as
it is, and the problem is there is a little hip in the property here (showing on the plans) so now
there are ditches on both sides of the long driveway, and it comes off to where the DOT already
has the whole drainage system that runs north and south on this road.
The drainage system that you are connecting to is on Phillips Road?
(not using the mic) Correct and I believe there is drainage and there is just a ditch
along the lake right here and there is drainage stations and it crosses over Phillips and keeps
going to the east. Everything collects along Phillips Road, crosses here and INAUDIBLE this
way.
(not using the mic) and this is what you are building new?
(not using the mic) that is correct and like I said, INAUDIBLE building that he has
here INAUDIBLE doesn’t want to do any more disturbance. They like what is there (papers
rattling) INAUDIBLE put in INAUDIBLE and what ever is in the back of your yard. There is a
whole row of trees between the existing fot and up on Lake Road to and most of it’s on the
neighbors to the west property and we are not touching any of that and the only thing we are
really moving is, as far as the existing mature trees, is where the sewer comes through so we can
get the last manhole in.
By the looks on the drawing, they are not disturbing anything in your
backyard and that looks like it will all be untouched.
(not using the mic)INAUDIBLE high and dry and the most desired
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Is there anything that can be done as that is being developed to help him
through the drainage situation in his backyard?
No, his drainage goes to the south.
Ok, thank you. Ok, anyone else?
Scott Feltrinelli at 1396 Meadow Breeze Lane Anthony Casciani: Ok [am with you now: J am
just behind the south piece of this property being proposed.
What ts your name again?
Scott Feltrinelli (there was no sign in at 1396 Meadow Breeze Lane: John is like five houses
down same side of the street. I am two in off of Lake Road.
Ok | am with you now.
(not using the mic) INAUDIBLE
Hey guys, hold on, you are holding a private conversation. Let me ask you a
couple of questions. Scott, correct? I see where John is over here, John Lauff but I don’t see your
name.
They take my tax dollars, but they don’t know where I live. (LAUGHTER)
They have the names on here but there are no addresses.
Scott Feltrinelli; So, 1396 is going to be off of Phillips Road and it will be the north side of
Meadow Breeze Lane, two houses in off of Phillips.
(not using the mic) His backyard is the town dedicated parcel that was with Lake
Breeze INAUDIBLE
Ok. So, he is not actually backing up to this.
INAUDIBLE (both parties speaking at the same time)
There is a resident just north of me that has a property there that has been
there for quite some time. It is just.a single standing home.
Now we know where Scott fives, what is the issue?
It is not a very big one, but it is just a quick conversation. We almost settled
it on a side card here, but I will voice it. So, my concern is kind of the vantage point right. We
buy these nice homes with these beautiful, wooded lots and you hope they stay that way forever
and of course they don’t but we would like to preserve as much of it as possible and so my
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feeling is so when I sit on my deck, I probably won’t see a whole lot going on with that house
that is currently there. There is an older home that has been there for quite some time. Just
behind this parcel that is considered green space or I am not sure of the terminology they are
using for it, but it’s town property so I don’t think I will be missing to much of a vantage point
there but as I lock to the left towards Johns house, the woods get a little thinner and that
corner starts to kind of creep into this neighborhood a little bit and pinches a little bit more off
of that green space as you go deeper into these lots and we may actually see lights; cranes;
construction; noise and the vantage point might erode to some degree so Iam just kind of
wondering if anyone could speak to the preservation of the green space in general and in the
hopes that we maybe more John than me, but we look out the back window that we don’t see a
skyscraper above the tree line and things of this nature. You kind of know where I’m going
with this, I think.
Anthony Casciani; Yes. The code only allows a maximum height of 30 foot anyway. Which
would be a normal house or Jess, you know and from where you are and I’m guessing, lam
looking and there is that house, Francis Dodd by the corner here and that is the one that is right
on the corner on the drawing.
He is the one behind me.
So, ] don’t think you are going to see anything. That house is in the woods,
and they really aren’t disturbing much of the property other than where the house goes.
And the other piece of this conversation might be werth a quick venture is
the runoff for all the properties and Johns included, they all shallow down to my back yard
where I have an easement or some sort of a tube, drainage kind of thing that the town put in
so like John, I get a lot of water build up back there in the spring and really, year around. It
sounds like we have relayed these concerns, but I will through it out there again, if there is
any disruption to or addition to run off. We build these houses up and it sort of falls into the
wooded area, and it finds the lowest ground and it runs down through these back yards we live
in and then into my trough or my area there and I don’t know what that would look like but
Why don’t we do this; ] am going to make a suggestion. When you come in
for your preliminary approval, why don’t you show how you are containing it so that there is no
runoff and just elevations.
(not using the mic) INAUDIBLE
That is what ] am saying. Because the way it shows, really all that we can do
1s not have them put water onto your property, Johns, or anyone else’s so they have to show that.
That is how they have to design in so will do that.
Ok, perfect.
With preliminary we can just get into that a little deeper.
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What is the next submittal deadline?
Do you have that up there?
January 18'" for February 7" meeting and then the following one would be February
15'" for the March 7"" meeting.
And because of the holiday, when this was submitted this has not been reviewed by
PRC yet because of the way the cycle went. We also sent the 30-day referral to Monroe County,
and we are awailing those comments. So, I will get the board more material, obviously before it
comes back for a vote. I just wanted lo get that on the record.
I know on the 18" 1 won’t be here.
That is just the submittal deadline. The meeting is not till February 7".
Ok, | guess we are set, and we have some minutes to do.
TAKE 5 OIL CHANGE: Located at 1045 Ridge Road. Applicant Betsy Brugg of Woods Oviatt
Gillman LLP on behalf of Quattro Development is requesting SKETCH PLAN REVIEW of a
proposed 1,610 SF 3-bay oil change facility on a 1.25 acres parcel having SBL# 079.15-1-8.009
located in an MC Medium Intensity Commercial District under Section 269-5 of the Code of the
Town of Webster.
APPLICANT WITHDREW APPLICATION PRIOR TO MEETING.
Minutes were approved for December 6, 2022. (John Kosel
and seconded by Anthony Casciani)
With no other applications before the Board this evening Mr. Casciani concluded tonight’s
meeting at 7:45 PM.
Respectfully Submitted,
Signéd CA Petts A Dated 2/7/23 _
Mark Giardina, Secretary FER T2 ‘23 7eilis
Katherine Kolich, Recording Secretary FILED WERSTER THN CLK
So ieee kA, May Mn
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