Planning Board Meeting
Planning Minutes 2023.04.04

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WEBSTER TOWN PLANNING BOARD MINUTES

PLACE

Webster Town Board Mecting Room 1002 Ridge Road

TIME

7:00 p.m.

DATE

4 April 2023

PRESENT

ABSENT:

Dave Malta, Vice Chairman Anthony Casciani, Chairman

Mark Giardina, Secretary Derek Anderson

John Kosel Derek Meixcll

Jennifer Wright

Kyle Taylor, Attorney

Josh Artuso, Director of Community Development

Katherine Kolich, Recording Secretary

Dave Malta

Welcome to the April 4" Webster Planning Board meeting. Please join us in the

Pledge of Allegiance. Thank you. A couple of notes tonight, we are missing three board

members, so we only have four which is enough for a quorum but if we have to vote on any

issue, it will have to be unanimous. Everybody presenting tonight has a right to be heard in front

of a full board, so if anyone wishes to table their application till next month they certainly can. |

don’t know if there is anyone here who would want to do that. If so, please say so now. If not,

we will keep going. (ALL. APPLICANTS WANTED TO PROCEED)

Tonight, we have two tabled matters and give scheduled matters. Do you want to read the first

one?

Roll call

Summary overview of outcome:

TABLED MATTERS

:

G & HAUTO SALES-SIGN-1021 FIVE MILE LINE ROAD

Applicant

DSB Engineers

Status

SIGN APPROVED AS PRESENTED. PLANNING BOARD WILL SEND LETTER

OF RECOMMENDATION TO THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS.

MARINA DODGE JEEP EXPANSION-943 RIDGE ROAD

Applicant

Al LaRue

Status

SKETCH PLAN REVIEW: PLANNING BOARD WILL SEND LETTER OF

RECOMMENDATION TO THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS.

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SCHEDULED MATTERS

:

LOWES SEASONAL OUTDOOR DISPLAYS-900 FIVE MILE LINE ROAD

Applicant

Hansy Araujo

Status

APPROVED DISPLAYS AND DATES AS PRESENTED

QUICKLEE’S -SIGN-873 HOLT ROAD

Applicant

Jim Colombo

Status

APPROVED AS PRESENTED

OASIS GROCERY HOUSE-SIGN-807 RIDGE ROAD

Applicant

Amy Catalano

Status

APPROVED AS PRESENTED

STUDCO BUILDING SYSTEMS-SIGN-545 BASKET ROAD

Applicant

Kirk Wright

Status

APPROVED AS PRESENTED

HARBOR FREIGHT-SIGN-950 RIDGE ROAD

Applicant

Kirk Wright

Status; APPROVED AS PRESENTED

(Mark Giardina read the first application):

G & H AUTO SALES: Located at 1021 Five Mile Line Road. Applicant DSB Engineers is

requesting SIGN APPROVAL to allow a 28.3 SF building mounted fagade sign & SKETCH

PLAN REVIEW associated with the construction of a 6-space front parking / display area for G

& H Auto Sales on a 0.74-acre parcel having SBL# 079.18-1-1 located in a CO Commercial

Outdoor Storage District under Sections 265-7 & 269-5 of the Code of the Town of Webster.

Appearing before the board was Walt Baker with DSB Engineering and with me tonight is Mr.

Haldon Inc, the owner of G & H Auto at 1021 Five Mile Line Road. As was mentioned by the

board, we are here tonight for sign approval and sketch plan review for a six-space parking area

located in the commercial outdoor storage area district which is allowed for auto dealerships.

Regarding the sign approval request, we submitted an clevation detail for the building mounted

sign illustrating the size and the proposed colors. The dealership sign does comply with the code

which requires the size not to exceed 10% of the building’s fagade. That would equate to the

building’s fagade 10% would work out to be a sign that would be 55.2 square feet and we are

proposing 28 square fect and that was noted on the plan as well.

As stated, the business sign would be building mounted sign and not have any lighting. There

wouldn't be any back lighting or ground mounted lighting proposed. The material would be

aluminum composite material with digital lettering in earthtone colors, which we submitted to

the board. The 8 ¥2 X [1 and it is also on our drawing which I brought with me tonight and the

detail sheet.

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The second part of our application is to review placing six parking spaces in front of the building

for display vehicles only. As the board is aware, the site was limited in size and per the code we

received variances ten years ago and we started this project and since then Mr. Haldon has been

working on the site but limited most of his advertising is done through the internet and basically

what he is requesting now is to display parking in front of the building so he can be more visible

and basically comply with the traditional car dealership where you see a vehicle displayed at the

sites.

Haldon can also attest to the fact that potential buyers are having difficulty recognizing that the

site is there and a car dealership and by having the sign which obviously he wants to have it

mounted and also to display vehicles which other car dealerships in the area are accustomed to

having. It would help his business grow and presently it is just advertising. He has stated to me

that he had some potential buyers that came to the site and couldn’t find it and they ended up and

the corner dealership. I can see where his frustration is coming into play, and I know he has

been there for quite a while. I would also like to say, the whole time that Haldon has owned the

business he has never violated the Planning Board approvals which he received ten years ago and

also (wo years ago when we were here for expansion of the rear parking area, he has never once

parked a vehicle or display a vehicle in the front yard. He has always adhered to the

requirements of the code. So, basically at this time we would like to have the boards approva! for

the signage and also get a positive recommendation because we do know, in order to park the

vehicles in the front, there is a fifty-foot buffer zone that is required in the outdoors display

district, and we will have to go to the Zoning Board to get that. So, do you have any questions?

Mark Giardina

Do we need an address for the sign? A numeric number.

Josh Artuso

Only if it is a monument sign.

Dave Malta

| am sure you probably have some kind of numbers on the building.

Walt Baker

We do have numbers on the building now.

Dave Malta

Ok, we should do the sign first. Does anyone have any questions on the sign?

John Kosel

Will it be illuminated?

Walt Baker

No sir.

John Kosel

Is there going to be any goose neck lighting or a spotlight or anything?

Walt Baker

Oh, ] know what you mean. No, he is going to comply with the requirements as

stated. We are not going to have a backlit sign; he is not going to have any kind of goose neck or

ground lighting. He primarily does his business during the daylight hours,

Dave Malta

I agree that he definitely needs a sign out there. Because no one would guess that it

is an auto dealership of any kind. So, definitely a sign is important.

Walt Baker

In the zoning district, he is actually north would be up so this auto (NOT USING

THE MIC, CAN NOT REALLY HEAR WELL) ts on the corner and then the American Legion

and he is there. The zoning is actually two more properties further north where the zoning line

changes so he is not at the edge of the zoning line.

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Dave Malta

Does anyone else have anything else? (Board: NO) Ok, why don’t we go ahead and

approve the sign and we will gel into the sketch plan afterwards. Does somcone want to make a

sign approval first?

Jennifer Wright

Do we want to do SEQR for the sign?

John Kosel

I don’t have SEQR for the sign. How about:

Town of Webster Planning Board considered the request by Applicant, G & H Auto Sales,

Located at 1025 Five Mile Line Road. DSB Engincers 1s requesting SIGN APPROVAL to install

two to allow a 28.3 SF building mounted sign.

The Planning Board classifies the proposed action to be a Type II Action under Section

617.5(c)(2) of the State Environmental Review (SEQR) Regulations and therefore is not subject

to further review.

RESOLUTION 23-035 John Kosel made a motion for TYPE ITSEQR

which was seconded by Jennifer Wright.

VOTE:

Mr. Anderson ABSENT

Mr. Kosel AYE

Mr. Malta AYE

Mr. Meixell ABSENT

Mr. Casciani ABSENT

Mr. Giardina AYE

Mrs, Wright AYE

RESOLUTION 23-036

Jennifer Wright a made a motion for SIGN

APPROVAL Located at 1021 Five Mile Line

Road. Applicant DSB Engineers is requesting to

allow a 28.3 SF building mounted facade sign

display area for G & H Auto Sales on a 0.74-acre

parcel having SBL# 079.18-1-1 located in a CO

Commercial Outdoor Storage District under

Sections 265-7 & 269-5 of the Code of the Town of

Webster which was seconded by Dave Malta.

VOTE:

Mr. Anderson ABSENT

Mr. Kosel AYE

Mr, Malta AYE

Mr. Meixell ABSENT

Mr, Casciani ABSENT

Mr. Giardina AYE

Mrs, Wright AYE

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Dave Malta

Ok, now we will get into the sketch plan. It has been brough up a couple of times

that the applicant is asking for a variance to allow parking in front when they were told that they

would not be able to park as part of the approval for the parking expansion. Actually, Fam the

one that probably stipulated that. If 1 remember correctly.

Walt Baker

I think it was.

Dave Malta

The reason for it was his business was not a retail business and set up like most

retail businesses. So, I didn’t want to sec cars parked on the grass. [fhe came in wanting to have

that space done in the beginning, fortunately | would have had no problem with it. So,

evidentially his business has changed, and now not only does he need the sign, but he needs

something that shows that, that is some kind of an automobile dealership. Right now, it is Justa

house, and nobody would know it. So, | just want to clarify the reason for that stipulation at that

time. Now, we are under a different time and business has changed and as far as a 25-foot

setback in the CO district, 25 foot is pretty much normal or less, An example would be the auto

dealership right on the corner. Which probably has five feet but up and down Ridge Road for the

most part, there is no more than 25 feet, so 1 don’t have any objection to that either. Those are

my feelings on it. I will certainly open it up to any questions or whatever,

Jennifer Wright

So, you have no objection to having the parking there now as long as it has the

appropriate setback, but you would like to see it paved, that is what I heard you say as opposed

to parking on the grass.

Dave Malta

Yes, not in the grass. It has to be either stone or paved and look like a display area.

Nothing on the grass at all and also probably some small amount of landscaping in the front to

kind of pick it up a little bit.

Jennifer Wright

| would tend to agree. | think that is a reasonable compromise.

Walt Baker

Again, the property itself because you all know it was previously a house and the

zoning changed over the years and now it is a commercial outdoor display area, and the house

was actually setback 57 fect from the right of way and the setback for the commercial zoning the

CO zoning is actually 75 feet so ten years ago we got a variance obviously because it was

preexisting nonconforming and also the CO district has a 50 foot buffer zone and again, as the

chairman mentioned, it is a little excessive and obviously these preexisting properties can not

really comply with that in order to have a traditional looking dealership and create it so it has

more of an appearance as that. We would like to have display parking in the front and not

customer parking. Customers will go around and park in the back and at least he will have

visibility and be known as a car dealership by having these vehicles out front and similar to what

is on the corner which basically used to be a gas station back in the day. | worked on that site

years ago as well. | have done the Doyle site; crossed the street when it used to be Phichler, I did

that site. Up and down the road basically.

Jennifer Wright

It already received the variance is thal or it needs to receive the variance?

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Walt Baker

We received the building variance because the existing building is 57 feet, and the

code is 75 so now the buffer is 50 feet, and we are just 57 feet with the building so our buffer

zone is consuming our whole front yard. So, we are basically looking for a 25-foot variance.

Dave Malta

And it is not consistent. Unfortunately, or fortunately, either way, itis pretty

consistent with what goes on in that area.

John Kosel

So, a 25-foot variance you would be able to get six cars.

Walt Baker

And a drive isle in order to maneuver and park them so they are perpendicular to the

road . So, yes, it works out to 25 feet with the town code parking. We could conceivably have

$1x spaces and then a drive3 aisle so he can maneuver the vehicles and park them. It would not

be for anyone turning around and no customer parking. That would still be in the back.

Jennifer Wright

So as long as it is, it sounds like it is an agreeable solution as long as the cars

are parked in a stone or paved area as opposed to on the grass, 1 don’t see why not.

Dave Malta

Nothing on the grass. What about and ] have not seen it at this place, but transports.

How do you transport the cars in? Does it come in carrier or small carrier?

Haldun Ince

The answer to your question Mr. Malta, small carrier sometimes or but sometime

the carrier we usually use American Legion parking fot.

Dave Malta

Ok, I just want to specify that absolutely under no conditions is there going to be

any loading or unloading of cars on Five Mile Line Road. We have issues up on Ridge Road

with some who still don’t comply. You cannot have any tractor trailers or carriers parked on

Five Mile Line Road loading or unloading.

Haldun Ince

J understand.

John Kosel

Do you have an agreement with the American Legion to load cars on their property?

Haldun Ince

Yes, basically when they need a parking lot during their fundraisers, I] allow them

to use my parking lot and then they have no issues.

John Kosel

(speaking to the board) Would he need to show an agreement with (he American

Legion to the town here?

Dave Malta

No, to INAUDIBLE onto his property you know, I don’t care if i's the American

Legion, but it has to be on their property, and they have plenty room in the back that a modern

size carrier can certainly turn around there. Any other questions?

Mark Giardina

Jog my memory for a moment, when we granted permission, did we include

preliminary final because I have an original document here and it says type of application, site

plan review with sign permit and then tt says below preliminary final with sign permit.

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Dave Malta

This is sketch plan tonight.

Mark Giardina

This is just sketch plan?

Dave Malta

Yes, no approvals tonight. He will come back with the preliminary plan, or the next

meeting and we will go from there.

Josh Ariuso

Yes, so this is scheduled to go in front of the Zoning Board next week so pending

the outcome of that we would bring it back and finish the process.

Dave Malta

What I would like to do is send a letter, if the board is along with me on that to the

Zoning Board that we agree with this particular situation,

Jennifer Wright

Yes, that makes sense and we have done that in the past.

Mark Giardina

Just a brief note.

John Kosel

Do we need to do a motion on thal note?

Jennifer Wright

No

Mark Giardina

I don’t think so, just send them a friendly, hi and this is what we did.

Jennifer Wright

[ think that is it until it comes back, right?

Dave Malta

So, we will just tet] you to proceed to preliminary and we will give a

recommendation to the Zoning Board.

Walt Baker

That would be great. | appreciate il.

Dave Malta

See you next time.

Walt Baker

Thank you very much.

{Mark Giardina read the second application):

MARINA DODGE JEEP EXPANSION

Located at 943 Ridge Road. Applicant Al Larue of

McMahon-Larue Associates is requesting SKETCH PLAN REVIEW associated with the

construction of a 3,379 SF addition to an existing auto dealership on a 4.82-acre parce] having

SBL # 079, 15-1-22.104 located in an MC Medium Intensity Commercial District under

Section 269-5 of the Code of the Town of Webster.

Appearing before the board was Al LaRue with McMahon and LaRue Associates. Good

evening, With me tonight is John Gabriele and John Spoleta. On the phone, if we need the

architect to answer any questions on the new building, we can catch him by phone but like a lot

of people this weck, he is on vacation, but he is available and expecting something. The former

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plan is 3,379 SF addition to the front of the building in an area that is covered by blacktop now

and they are going to change the access to the service department to accommodate the expansion.

The existing building 1s 18846 square feet, so this is about al7.9 percent addition. No change in

the impervious. Next weck we are going to the Zoning Board for the extension of the special use

permit so we will get that next week . (NOT USING THE MIC, HARD TO HEAR/SHOWING

ON THE PLANS) The plan in the grey area is going to be disturbed. The blacktop will be taken

out and the entrance into the service area and parking relocating and handicapped parking will

be down just to the south of where the existing entrance is into the service area and then there is

going to be a sidewalk and the hatched area in the blacktop up to this point and then there is an

area through the building over to the elevators in this location, Over on this side, are going to be

the other (wo handicapped parking spaces and this area is right over there will be reconfigured

grade wise to accommodate that. In the front of the building, very unusual, we have a really

steep grade there. The sidewalk will come across the front of the building. (PICKS UP MIC)

The area in the front is going to be concrete and what we designed in there is fake boulders and

so what is going to happen is... this is a jeep dealership and when the jeeps come in this is just

strictly for display, they will be up on their side; up and over and that sort of thing so! know

there is a steep grade here but that is perfect for showing off the product. As far as entering the

building there is going to be a door right here and it flattens off the sidewalk so that a jeep can

get into that display area. So, lots of fun. Do you have any questions for me or John or anybody

else?

Dave Malta

You brought this to us before, has anything changed since the last time you were

here?

Al LaRue

No.

Dave Malta

I didn’t think so. I thought we did a sketch plan already,

Josh Artuso

No, they presented it at PRC, not the Planning Board. So, I think you may have

been in attendance for ihat PRC meeting.

Dave Malta

You are right.

Josh Artuso

Yes, so this is their first trip here,

Al LaRue

Yes, this is the same as PRC.

Dave Malta

Back then, | commented that I like this plan and I like the new entrance into the

service department. | didn’t like the old one. I think it is conducive to that particular product. It

makes the service area a little more welcoming.

Al LaRue

Now going into the service department, itis straight in from the road vs. you come

down the hill and have to make that hard left turn and if there was a couple of people waiting, it

was kind of difficult. There will be a wall between the parking spaces where the jeeps are going

to be displayed on the conerete and so there is going to be a vertical wall there just because of the

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grade. We have got to get from the finished floor down to the floor of the existing service area,

so the wall is figured into it. There will be some electrical and that will all be reconfigured, and

we are working on that now with RGE.

Dave Malta

There were a couple of comments by another board member who is not here

tonight, but he gave me a few of these in writing so I will read them. First of all, Aas applicant

submitted a response to the PRC comments?

Al LaRue

I don’t know if [ have or not. I don’t know if | have received them. Ihave ali our

correspondence, so I don’t know if I received the PRC comments. Did I?

Josh Artuso; Yes, they were sent probably at the beginning of February, so it was a while back. |

have a copy if you'd like

Dave Malta

The other comment was There does not appear to be room for cars to access the

handicapped parking areas. Provide details on accessibility to the parking spots such as Auto

Turn results. (FY1- Auto Turn is an application that runs in AutoCAD that shows the path a

vehicle takes. It shows the tires and how the corners of the car overhang during a turn.)

Al LaRue

Ido remember these now. We did address those items on the plan but not officially in

writing, but we did address all these items. Regarding the issue of getting into these parking

spaces, we have removed some parking along (SHOWING ON THE PLANS) this area here so

that has been done. A 25-foot drive aisle. We have complied with all the requirements of the

Engineering Department.

Dave Malta

Where are the wetlands identified on the SEQR form?

Al LaRue

Pardon me?

Dave Malta

Where are the wetlands identified on the SEQR form?

Al LaRue

There are no wetlands on the site. That is automatically done with the SEQR. It was

downloaded from DEC. There are no wetlands in this area.

Dave Malta

And now my favorite. Where do the tractor trailers park for delivering cars?

Al LaRue

In the back.

Dave Malta

Do you have plenty of room in the back?

Al LaRue

Yes. (SHOWING ON THE PLANS) They come straight through, and | have seen

them park in here and John can maybe even answer better than that.

John Gabriele

For Marina Dodge. (SHOWING ON THE PLANS) So, the entrance off of Ridge

Road has always been the same.

Py. 89 /April 4, 2023, Planning Mecung

It allows for a tractor trailer from Ridge Road to drive down the driveway and they unload back

here and when they are done unloading, they drive out to Shoecraft and so they will exit that way

and go back oul to the expressway that way.

Dave Malta

Are the previously approved charging stations a separate business with separate

electric service and transformer? OR is that part of your business?

John Gabriele

That is a good questions so the level 3 charging stations that are now up in the

front of the building, they do have a separate service 400 amp service that took an act of god to

get RGE to actually hook up the electric and they are finally on line now so they come off the

pool (SHOWING ON THE PLANS} there is a panel box that is there that powers those two

charging stations and they each have two heads. They are level three chargers and those are the

ones that are first of their kind anywhere in this town and they are designed to charge a full

electric vehicle, 80% within 20 minutes and a 100% within an hour and they do require that an

individual either has an account with lets say, Tesla or you could just use your credit card, but

you do have to pay for the electric. Unless it is something that we are doing for ourselves, but

we don’t presently sell a full electric vehicle in any of the products that we sell but they are

coming so we are kind of head of the curve. We also have level 2 chargers on the outside of the

buildings and as part of this expansion, we will actually add a few more probably along the

building or along the back and some inside.

Dave Malta

He also takes about the green space. /s the existing grassy area actually green space

from an earlier approval? What exists? Your front 1s existing, and you do a nice job landscaping

it.

John Gabriele

] sure hope so. We sure spend enough on it. | take a lot of pride in that, and I

know you guys used us in the past as an example of what you would like to see landscaping look

like, We are not disturbing any of that up in the front or along the sides so. It all has to do

mostly with an area that has no landscaping at all or its asphalt or building.

Jennifer Wright

So, this is less to do with the plan but the sign, are you going to be making any

changes to the sign because I noticed the sign and I don’t know if it is weather damaged, or wind

damaged.

John Gabriele

The monument sign that 1s missing the letter?

Jennifer Wright

The building mounted sign.

John Gabriele

The building mounted sign, | am glad to see you are paying allention to

(LAUGHTER). So, what happened, that sign was recently...they put new LED lights inside of

that and for whatever the reason one of the letters that was holding it on with the one storm that

came through blew it away and itis maintained by the company so Thad to submit to Clinton

Signs and they will repair that as well if you look on my monument sign, there is a letter thal is

missing in that and I don’t know how or why that stuff happens.

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John Kosel

The entrance to the service area, how many cars can you keep there between the

garage door and the road?

John Gabriele

So, one of the big things that we are going there, we currently have this single

lane service drive. This is going to be a two lane and you can fit six cars inside there. So, itis a

substantial improvement from what we have now and plus when you pull into the garage, there is

actually some room there, there is going to be a new car delivery so we can actually deliver

people their cars especially when we get the inclement weather from the inside of the building.

That was one thing that we drew into the plan. | don’t know tf you have the full set of plans that

GLA has prepared if you only have this drawing. I believe they submitted. Whatever we

brought to the PRC meeting a month or so ago, it should be about the same. At present, the only

other building that looks like that in this area would be the brand-new Victor Dodge Chrysler

Jeep store in Victor and that was ground up. I have always felt that we have something that

is...I’m proud of and I hope the town is as well and I] think this is just going to take it to a whole

other level.

Dave Malta

I agree. You do a nice job there. It always looks look and it’s a good example. Are

there any other questions/concerns? Board: No. Ok, you can proceed to preliminary and will see

you next time.

Josh Ariuso

So, they are also scheduled to go to the Zoning Board next week because this is an

expansion of a preexisting nonconforming use so if the board wishes, they could also send a

Jetter of support.

Dave Malta

Ok, let’s send a letter.

(Mark Giardina read the third application):

LOWES SEASONAL OUTDOOR DISPLAYS

Located at 900 Five Mile Line Road.

Located at 900 Five Mile Line Road. Applicant Lowe’s Home Centers LLC, represented by

Hansy Araujo, is requesting permission to allow periodic seasonal displays of merchandise in

front of the building on an 18.21-acre parce! having SBL# 079.10-1-02.2, located in a HC High

Intensity Commercial District.

Appearing before the board was Hansy Araujo and I am the store manager for the Lowes in

Webster. I want to start out by saying Thank you for allowing my store to present tonight. As we

plan to seasonally merchandise product on the front apron of the store. Webster is known for

“Where life is worth living” and with your acceptance here tonight I would like to assist in our

community to beautify their homes and provide them with the right products. I provided you

with an tlustration of what this will look like in front of our store, and we plan to meet all fire

guidelines by not crossing into any fire lanes, keeping the area clean and organized and safe for

all our community.

As a fairly new resident of the town, | know how important it is to uphold the image that we are

trying lo portray, and I can ensure you that we will maintain the image throughout the season. If

you are open to any questions or comments, | would be more than happy to answer.

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Mark Giardina

This 1s a yearly thing al least for as long as I have been associated with the town

and this board. Personally speaking, I think that you folks do a very nice job. It is clean and nice.

The garden area is very well kept. There was one issue a while back and was taken care of with

regards to storing some stuff at the side of the, well actually it would be close to the turnabout

there, but it was taken care of. So, Tam just giving you my thoughts on it. As IT said, you have

been doing this for years and you do a very fine job.

Hansy Araujo

Thank you.

Dave Malta

| agree. It is an annual thing, and we make it annual just to make sure it is always

pretty nice, and it is, and you guys do a nice job.

Mark Giardina

They normally send a Jetter to the town making a request, did you do that?

Hansy Araujo

Yes, | did myself and [am new to the store and some of the associates, who do

live in Webster, made me aware that it was something that was presented to the board, Whether

or not it was, I just wanted to make sure that | made myself present because as a new store

manager there | wanted to make sure that we are not crossing any boundaries are crossing any

restricted areas so the last thing that I was to do is ruffle some feathers. So, I just wanted to make

sure we were all in line.

Mark Giardina

I] have a copy of the letter here. You are talking about and just for the record:

April 5-April 10 fer Easter

April 14-April 28 for Spring Fest

May 24-June 2 for Memorial Day

June 30-July 9 for Independence Day

August 29-September 8 for Labor Day.

Hansy Araujo

Again, from what | had heard from the associates in the store was that il was very

limited as far as the time of year we can merchandise out front. | would be more than willing to

do it all year around if you approve it, but these would be major promotional events that are

customers would be coming into the store and if I have the access to provide more merchandise

out front and make iu casier for them to pick it up out front, these would be the dates.

Dave Malta

Ok, any other questions or concerns?

Mark Giardina

We are going to need a SEQR on this.

John Kosel

| have one here.

Jennifer Wright

No SEQR, it has always just been a courtesy because | was on the board many

years ago when this first started and it was a courtesy that Lowes always does and the board

always appreciated it and appreciates how you keep the building and I think the displays are out

year around in front of the building it’s just there are extra things during those weeks that you

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hadn’t read, just to make sure that was clear because there are always displays in front of Lowes

but thank you.

Kyle Taylor

There is no motion required. Thank you.

(Mark Giardina read the fourth application):

QUICKLEE’S SIGN; Located at 873 Holt Road. Applicant Jim Colombo of Skylight Signs is

requesting SIGN APPROVAL for (1) 14.5 SF building mounted fagade sign to reflect the name

change of the mini-mart on a 1.529-acre parece! having SBL# 079.08-1-8./GAS located in an OP

Core Arca North Office Park District under Section 265-7 of the Code of the Town of Webster.

Appearing before the board was Lou Terraovoli and | am the Director of Real Estate

Development for Quicklee’s, and | am here tonight for Jim to present the sign permit application.

As you said in the introduction, the sign itself will identify the Quicklee’s convenience store with

just the word QUICKLEE’S at the Holt Road location.

The total height of the sign will be 24 inches, 2 feet with the width, 7 feet 3 inches and the total

sign area is 14.5 square feet and that represents about 8% of the frontage of the building.

Currently the site has no identification for Quicklee’s anywhere on the building or the canopy.

So, we would like to raise the visibility of our site and add Quicklee’s to the front and if you

have any questions, I would be happy to address them.

Mark Giardina

Is the white area opaque?

Lou Terraovoli

The white area, it’s a black out white so at night you will just see the Quicklee’s

letters.

Jennifer Wright

Has it been Quicklee’s?

Lou Terraovoli

Yes, it just hasn't had identification.

Josh Artuso

Is anything changing on the canopy?

Lou Terraovoli

No

Jennifer Wright

| think it looks nice and it is very well balanced on the building. | don’t have

any questions,

John Kosel:

RESOLUTION

Town of Webster Planning Board considered the request by Applicant, Jim Colombo of Skylight

signs to install a 14.5 SF building mounted fagade sign for Quick lees, located at 873 Holt Road.

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The Planning Board classifies the proposed action to be a Type II Action under Section

617.5(c)(2) of the State Environmental Review (SEQR) Regulations and therefore is not subject

to further review.

RESOLUTION 23-037 John Kosel made a motion for TYPE IL SEQR

which was seconded by Mark Giardina.

VOTE:

Mr. Anderson ABSENT

Mr. Kosel AYE

Mr. Malta AYE

Mr. Meixell ABSENT

Mr. Casciani ABSENT

Mr. Giardina AYE

Mrs. Wright AYE

RESOLUTION 23-038

John Kosel a made a motion for SIGN

APPROVAL Located at 873 Holt Road. Applicant

Jim Colombo of Skylight Signs is requesting SIGN

APPROVAL for (1) 14.5 SF building mounted

facade sign to reflect the name change of the mini-

mart on a 1.529-acre parcel having SBL# 079.08- |

8./GAS located in an OP Core Area North Office

Park District under Section 265-7 of the Code of the

Town of Webster which was seconded by Dave

Malta.

VOTE:

Mr. Anderson ABSENT

Mr. Kosel AYE

Mr. Malta AYE

Mr. Meixe!}l ABSENT

Mr. Casciant ABSENT

Mr. Giardina AYE

Mrs. Wright AYE

(Mark Giardina read the fifth application):

OASIS GROCERY HOUSE SIGN

Located at 807 Ridge Road. Applicant Amy Catalano of

Vilal Signs is requesting SIGN APPROVAL for (1) 29 SF building mounted fagade sign to

reflect a new business within the Webster Woods Plaza on a 3.54-acre parcel having SBL#

079.18-1-69.111 located in an MC Medium Intensity Commercial District under Section 265-7

of the Code of the Town of Webster.

Appearing before the board was Josh Palmer from Vital Signs and representing Oasis Grocery

House. We are proposing a 130° by 35.5”, 29 square foot sign. Itis not illuminated and there are

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existing goosenecks that have been on that building and go above cach sign for each business so

that will be the external illumination. These are raised letters off of this too and are /2 inch

raised letters coming off an aluminum composite panel, so it’s pretty cut and dry.

John Kosel

Was there an old sign up there?

Josh Palmer

I don’t know what is existing there right now. [kind of came in as a stand in who

was nol feeling well, so. [am not sure if there needs to be a removal, but I am sure there was a

sign there before

John Kosel

H the fagade needs to be repaired or whatever.

Josh Palmer

Are sign should be the sign size if not slightly larger. I think everything in that

plaza is 120 inches and the previous ones were 120 x 30, and they were five inches bigger so

anything that was there should be covered with what we do.

John Kosel; Ok.

Dave Malta

Any questions?

Mark Giardina

We don’t need any numbers for the sign, right?

Dave Malta

No

Mark Giardina

Just checking.

Jennifer Wright

I don’t have any questions. I was interested in Oasis Grocery House and

looking forward to seeing what it all entails.

John Kosel:

RESOLUTION

Town of Webster Planning Board considered the request by Applicant, Amy Catalano of Vita!

Signs to install a 13.5 sf building mounted fagade sign for Oasis Grocery House located at 807

Ridge Road, Building E.

The Planning Board classifies the proposed action to be a Type I Action under Section

617.5(c)(2) of the State Environmental Review (SEQR) Regulations and therefore is not subject

to further review.

RESOLUTION 23-039 John Kosel made a motion for TYPE IT SEQR

which was seconded by Mark Giardina.

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VOTE:

Mr. Anderson ABSENT

Mr. Kosel AYE

Mr. Malta AYE

Mr. Meixell ABSENT

Mr. Casciani ABSENT

Mr. Giardina AYE

Mrs. Wright AYE

RESOLUTION 23-040

Jennifer Wright made a motion for FINAL

APPROVAL Located at 807 Ridge Road.

Applicant Amy Catalano of Vital Signs is

requesting SIGN APPROVAL for (1) 29 SF

building mounted fagade sign to reflect a new

business within the Webster Woods Plaza on a

3.54-acre parcel having SBL# 079.18- 1-69.11 1

located in an MC Medium Intensity Commercial

District under Section 265-7 of the Code of the

Town of Webster which was seconded by Dave

Malta.

VOTE:

Mr. Anderson ABSENT

Mr. Kosel AYE

Mr. Malta AYE

Mr. Meixell ABSENT

Mr. Casciani ABSENT

Mr. Giardina AYE

Mrs. Wright AYE

(Mark Giardina read the sixth application):

STUDCO BUILDING SYSTEMS SIGN

Located at 545 Basket Road. Applicant Kirk

Wright of Sign & Lighting Services LLC is requesting SIGN APPROVAL to construct a 41

SF monument sign on a 11.80-acre parcel having SBL# 066.01-2-4.3 located in an IN

Industrial District under Section 265-7 of the Code of the Town of Webster.

Appearing before the board was Kirk Wright , Sign and Light Services 530 State Road, 104,

Ontario, New York. The board saw a similar sign, but it was non-compliant, it was (oo tall.

Went back to the customer and we redesigned it is the same materials. It is a diabond panel with

some standoffs with some white diabond panels that we will use as future tenant panels and the

sign ts lower and complics to the code.

Dave Malta

You did a good job taking our recommendations. I really like the siga.

Kirk Wright

Thank you.

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Jennifer Wright

Did you do the same sign on. There is one like this out on Salt Road too,

Kirk Wright

No

Jennifer Wright

There is a nice-looking sign on Salt Road that is very similar.

Kirk Wright

Oh well if it is nice then it's probably mine there then. (LAUGHTER)

John Kosel

And they have the address on their two.

Dave Malta

Ok, as far as I] can see, tt complies with everything as far as setback and size. Any

questions/concerns? Board: No.

John Kosel:

RESOLUTION

Town of Webster Planning Board considered the request by Applicant, Kirk Wright of Sign &

Lighting Services Inc. to install a 24.8 SF monument sign for Studco Building Systems located at

545 Basket Road on an 1!.80-acre parcel having SBL# 066.01 -2- 4.3.

The Planning Board classifies the proposed action to be a Type II Action under Section

617,5(c)(9) of the State Environmental Review (SEQR) Regulations and therefore is not subject

to further review.

Jennifer Wright

They only changed theirs. It’s a 41 and I think you said the last one was 29 and

this one is a 4 square foot sign.

John Kosel

Ok, ] am sorry, he has the wrong wording here. Yes, that is correct. Thank you,

Jennifer.

RESOLUTION 23-041 John Kose] made a motion for TYPE I] SEQR

which was seconded by Mark Giardina.

VOTE:

Mr. Anderson ABSENT

Mr. Kosel AYE

Mr. Malta AYE

Mr. Meixell ABSENT

Mr. Casciani ABSENT

Mr. Giardina AYE

Mrs. Wright AYE

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RESOLUTION 23-042 Dave Malta made a motion for FINAL

APPROVAL Located at 545 Basket Road.

Applicant Kirk Wright of Sign & Lighting

Services LLC is requesting SIGN APPROVAL

to construct a 41 SF monument sign ona 11.80-

acre parcel having SBL# 066.01 -2-4.3 located in

an IN Industrial District under Section 265-7 of

the Code of the Town of Webster which was

seconded by Mark Giardina.

VOTE:

Mr. Anderson ABSENT

Mr. Kosel AYE

Mr. Malta AYE

Mr. Meixell ABSENT

Mr. Casciani ABSENT

Mr. Giardina AYE

Mrs, Wright AYE

(Mark Giardina read the seventh application):

HARBOR FREIGHT SIGN

Located at 950 Ridge Road. Applicant Kirk Wright is

requesting SIGN APPROVAL for (1) building mounted fagade sign and associated tenant panel

on existing monument sign to reflect a new business within Webster Square Plaza on a 37.91-acre

parcel having SBL# 079.15-1-1.312 located in an HC High Intensity Commercial District

under Section 265-7 of the Code of the Town of Webster.

Appearing before the board was Kirk Wright with Sign and Lighting Service, Sign and Light

Services 530 State Road, 104, Ontario, New York and I do have the other sets if anyone wants

them. I’m working with Harbor Freight on their signage for their new build out. The existing

Kmart Store. The signage is consistent with other signs in the plaza currently and previously. It

will be illuminated channel letters; LED illumination with a tag line where the blue is opaque,

and the letters will illuminate and the same with the tenant panels and the white lettering will

illuminate and the background will be opaque as per town code.

Mark Giardina

I will go on record by saying their sign color is perfect. They really stick out.

White, blue, and red, you certainly can’t miss itand I know everyone seems to be happy about it.

Jennifer Wright

The door or like a cut out there, is that going to stay a door or are we just acting

on the sign right now?

APPLICANT APPROACHES THE BOARD

Kirk Wright: The door was relocated. They are

discussing the main entrance. (A LOT OF PAPER RATTLING)

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Matthew Millan

Printing Advisors: 8370 Wilshire Blvd, Beverly Hills, CA. Yes, that door

would be infield to match the existing materials that are there and then painted over to match the

national branding of Harbor Freight Tools.

Jennifer Wright

Ok

Dave Malta

You show a nice maroon stripe between the gray and the blue.

Matthew Millan

It is safety red.

Dave Malta

That is different then the other red.

Mark Giardina

Do you mean blue and red?

Matthew Millan

That is their national prominent color. It is very distinctive, and ] think they

even have a trademark on it. The city scape with the gray matter is background and then the blue

and red are backers, yes.

Dave Malta

I am concerned about the brightness of the safety red as far as conforming to the

rest of the building.

Matthew Millan

And to speak to that, there is a bit of gloss on the prints when they are printed

and it is milder, that is correct.

Jennifer Wright

I don’t have an issue with the colors either because they way that the building

is, it kind of allows it to be separated.

Matthew Millan

| drove by earlier and I saw how Ollies was set up. Tam actually from the area

originally. I] used to buy toys at the old Kmart, so [ had to go back just to make sure they were

the exact same and I saw what we were, and Ollies is down much further to the right.

Dave Malta

So, the red strip and the red for the front of the building is the same?

Matthew Millan

Correct, yes.

Dave Malta

That is what is shows on one of these drawings and the other one shows much

brighter.

Jennifer Wright

Yes, it’s hard with printers.

Matthew Millan

] was going to say, sometimes they don’t accept the print outs because of it.

They want the PDF.

Mark Giardina

When docs Harbor Freight expect to move in?

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Matthew Millan

We were anticipating starting construction at the end of this current month with

all our approvals from building and everything but the landlord had identified to us that they are

sull seeking their portion of their package being approved at the next Planning Board meeting so

we would probably start construction once that is approved. No later than the second week of

May, if everything gocs well.

Dave Malta

That is good to see a new business coming into that.

Matthew Millan

I was going to say, that space has been vacant for a long time.

Jennifer Wright

It is perfect for that spot.

Dave Malta

Any question or concerns?

John Kosel:

RESOLUTION

Town of Webster Planning Board considered the request by Applicant, Kirk Wright of Sign and

Lighting Services to install a 177.31 sf building mounted sign and replace the panels on two

pylon signs for Harbor Freight located at 950 Ridge Road.

The Planning Board classifies the proposed action to be a Type If Action under Section

617.5(c)(2) of the State Environmental Review (SEQR) Regulations and therefore is not subject

to further review.

RESOLUTION 23-043 John Kosel made a motion for TYPE IT SEQR

which was seconded by Mark Giardina.

VOTE:

Mr. Anderson ABSENT

Mr. Kosel AYE

Mr. Malta AYE

Mr. Meixell ABSENT

Mr. Casciani ABSENT

Mr. Giardina AYE

Mrs. Wright AYE

RESOLUTION 23-044 Jennifer Wright made a motion for FINAL

APPROVAL Located at 950 Ridge Road.

Applicant Kirk Wright is requesting SIGN

APPROVAL for (1) building mounted facade sign

and associated tenant panel on existing monument

sign to reflect a new business within Webster

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Square Plaza on a 37.91-acre parcel having SBL#

079.15-1-1.312 located in an HC High Intensity

Commercial District under Section 265-7 of the

Code of the Town of Webster which was

seconded by Mark Giardina.

VOTE:

Mr. Anderson ABSENT

Mr. Kosel AYE

Mr. Malta AYE

Mr. Meixell ABSENT

Mr. Casciani ABSENT

Mr. Giardina AYE

Mrs. Wright AYE

Matthew Millan

Iam sorry board; | have one other item. Josh and I were discussing the

removal of the nursey area on our plans and then the concrete loading dock, repaving for that

space as well. I did provide plans on the handouts there that I gave out to you guys earlier.

When I discussed with Josh in the background, the drawing were not quite ready on the 15" but

they were ready on the 17-20" I believe, and we had sent them over and we were hoping we

could discuss them so that this way we could have the planning aspect of that approved so this

way our building permit would still go in line with our anticipated construction. Josh said it was

at the discretion of the Planning Board and had discussed it previously.

Josh Artuso

What happened was, there were two proposals for this very same plaza. The

Widewaters owner of the plaza is going to be coming before the board next month for some

exterior changes to the parking lot and expanding of the curbs; reconfiguration of the loading

dock in the back so I had suggested that they join efforts (o try and combine the physical changes

to the site however, that was not feasible so because this was not advertised for a site plan

modification or site plan approval, I am proposing that this be considered as part of the

application that will be forth coming in May for the other exterior changes but that would not

necessarily require you (APPLICANT) to come back from California.

Matthew Millan

I would have a question, also if, is there any preliminary preview that could

conduct just to sec if there is anything that the board would like us to possibly address prior to

the next commission hearing just6 so this way we could have that in line for you guys.

Josh Artuso

So, you are looking to identify if there are any concerns ?

Matthew Millan

With the removal of the nursey area specifically and then the concrete loading

dock, just the repaving of it. (THERE ARE A LOT OF PAPERS RATTLING AND

CONVERSATIONS BEING HELD WHILE APPLICANT IS SPEAKING) Those were the two

concerns, right Josh?

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Dave Malta

I don’t think we are prepared tonight but we will certainly look at it over the next 30

days and discuss when you come tn.

Josh Artuso

So just to confirm, you are proposing to remove what was formerly the outdoor

garden enclosure and...

Matthew Millan

Yes, correct and where that loading dock currently is, just repaving that and

upgrading the conditions to the existing loading dock and then there would be a weather

enclosure there as well which is depicted on the exterior clevations thal we provided.

Dave Malta

INAUDIBLE request with your application and then we can certainly look it over

time, but I don’t think we can rightfully talk about it tonight.

Josh Artuso

[ will follow up with you and wil! review internally and we will get comments from

the board and go from there.

Matthew Millan

Ok, thank you for your time. Any other questions?

Jennifer Wright

No, | think we are good, thank you and have a good night.

ADMINISTRATIVE MATTER

Minutes were approved for March 7, 2023.

With no other applications before the Board this evening Dave Malta concluded tonight’s

meeting at 8:15 PM.

Respectfully Submitted,

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Mark Giardina, Secretary

Katherine Kolich, Recording Secretary

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