WEBSTER TOWN PLANNING BOARD MINUTES
Webster Town Board Meeting Room 1002 Ridge Road
7:00 p.m.
5 September 2023
ABSENT:
Anthony Casciam, Chairman Mark Giardina, Secretary
Dave Malta, Vice Chairman
Derek Anderson
John Kosel
Derek Meixell
Jennifer Wright
Josh Artuso, Director of Community Development
Katherine Kolich, Recording Secretary
Kyle Taylor, Attorney
Welcome to the September 9, 2023 Webster Planning Board mecting. Please
join us in the Pledge of Allegiance. Roll call
We did have Fairlife, Coc-Cola project was supposed to be the 3 item on
the agenda tonight, but they are not prepared to come in yel so what we have done in licu of that.
we have asked Hegadorns to come tn with their proposed project for just a review. Justa sketch
plan to show what they are doing and stuff and that will speed you up a little dawn the road. So,
with that, we can start. Now the first one was Puff N° Stuff and [don’t see them here so we will
wait until the end of the meeting, We have heard this before and we denied the application the
last lime and they are not here again and they are not here again, | don’t know why but. Alright,
we will wait Gli the end of the inceting and make a decision on it. So, the next one ts Burd
Physical Therapy Sign.
Anthony Casciani began reading the first application.
Summary overview of outcome:
SCHEDULED MATTERS
:
PUFF N? STUFF SMOKE SHOP-SIGN-950 RIDGE ROAD
Mohammed Alsalafi
APPROVED FACADE SIGN & PANEL ON MONUMENT SIGN
BURD PHYSICAL THERAPY SIGN-847 HOLT ROAD
Patrice Lesniak & Chris McCatlrey
APPROVED WITH CONDITION: WHIFE BACKGROUND TO BE OPAQUE
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HEGEDORN’S PLAZA REDEVELOPMENT-964 RIDGE ROAD
Matt Tomlinson/Marathon Engineering
FEEDBACK PROVIDED TO APPLICANT
IN-LAW ADDITION-457 PINEVILLE LANE
Robert & Jennifer DeVos
Status) APPROVED WAIVER FOR OVERALL SIZE OF 916 SFO WETH
MUST ADHIERE TO ALL OTHER PROVISIONS OF TOWN
CODE SECTION 350-50; FOR FAMILY USE ONLY; APPLICANT TO FILE
ACCESSORY APARTMENT AGREEMENT WITH TOWN AND COUNTY
PRIOR TO BUILDING PERMIT ISSUANCE.
VERIZON ROOF TOP MICROCELL-900-963 CHERRY RIDGE BLVD
Steve Fantuzzo/Nixon Peabody LLP Attorney for Verizon Wireless
APPROVED AS PRESENTED; PROCEED TO TOWN BOARD FOR SPECIAL
USE PERMIT
SPLASH CAR WASH SITE PLAN APPROVAL EXTENION-1013 RIDGE ROAD
Anne Riley, LLC Attorney
APPROVED 1- YEAR EXTENSION TO OCTOBER 4, 2024, WITH
APPLICANT TO RE-APPEAR BEFORE THE BOARD TO REVIEW
LIGHTING PLANS PRIOR TO BUELDING PERMIT ISSUANCE.
(Anthony Casciant read the first application):
PUFF N’ STUFF SMOKE SHOP SIGN: Located at 950 Ridge Road. Applicant Mohammed
Alsalali is requesting SIGN APPROVAL to allow the installation of a 24.8 SF building mounted
sign within the Webster Square Plaza on a 37.91 acte parecl having SBL# 079. 15-1-1.312 located
inan HC High Intensity Commercial District under Section 265-7 of the Cade of the Town of
Webster,
Good to see you are finally here. We have been watting for you for about a
month and half now.
Appearing before the board was Mohammed Alsalalt. T think we came to the wrong meeting one
thine.
Alright, so you are going to put the sign up out front.
Yes. store front sign,
Is this sign itor what is the deal with it?
Yes, iis LED.
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Is the sign lit?
Yes
So, it is all lit from inside. All the letters and all individual letters ?
Yes and mounted to a raceway.
Josh, this meets code, ok for size?
Yes, it meets all the requirements.
The only other thing is the fagade before the sign goes up. fs the sign already
up? It’s not up?
Itis not up and has been down for three months since they received the
notice from you guys, we Look it down.
That is the only other thing is when the signs are replaced, sometimes you can
see on the fagade so just inaking sure that the front of the building is freshly painted behind the
Sign.
We will have it covered, yes.
Are you proposing a panel in the monument sign for the whole plaza as well?
No
There was one there al one point and that was laken down, so you are nol going
to add that back in?
If they want to. Should we apply for another permit?
What is he talking about? A sign for the road? No, I don’t think you should
have to get another permit because that sign was there for tenants in there and you are a tenant in
there, I don’t see any issue. As long as if goes in, and itis nota separate sign,
IL is not a separate sign,
Anthony Cascianis Justa placard that goes in there, right?
Yes
Lam ok with thal Are you guys ok with that?
Board all agreed,
Do you have to get approval from the owner for that?
We got the approval from the owner of the plaza.
Ok, you are all set with that then.
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Derek Anderson:
RESOLUTION
‘Fown of Webster Planning Board considered the request by Applicant. Mohammed Alsalafi to
install a 24.8 SF building mounted sign within the Webster Square Plaza located at 950 Ridge
Road on a 37.91- acre parcel having SBL# 079.15-1-1.312.
The Planning Board classifies the proposed action to be a Type I Action under Scetion
617.5(c)(2) of the State Environmental Review (SEQR) Regulations and therefore is not subject
1o further review.
RESOLUTION 23-102 Derek Anderson made a motion TYPE TI SEQR
which was seconded by John Kosel.
VOTE:
Mr. Anderson AYE
Mr. Kosel AYE
Mr. Malta AYE
Mr. Mcixcll AYE
Mr. Casciam AYE
Mr, Giardina ABSENT
Mrs. Wright AYE
RESOLUTION 23-103 John Kosel made a motion for SIGN APPROVAL
Located at 950 Ridge Road. Applicant Mohammed
Alsalafi is requesting SIGN APPROVAL to allow
the installation ofa 24.8 SF building mounted sign
within the Webster Square Plaza on a 37.91- acre
parce] having SBL# 079, 15-1-1.312 located in an
HC High Intensity Commercial District under
Seclion 265-7 of the Code of the Town of Webster
which was seconded by Derck Meixell.
VOTE:
Mr. Anderson AYE
Mr. Koscl AY I:
Mr. Malta AYE
Mr. Meixel! AYE
Mr. Casctami AYE
Mr. Giardina ABSENT
Mrs. Wright AYE
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(Anthony Casciani read the second application):
BURD PHYSICALTHERAPY SIGN; Located at 847 Holt Road. Applicants Patrice Lesniak
& Chris McCaffrey of Ulrich Sign Co, are requesting SIGN APPROVAL to allow a 30 SF
building mounted fagade sign fora physical therapy business on a 4.89-acre pareel having SBL#
079,08-1-9.1 1 located in an OP Office Park under Section 265-7 of the Code of the Town of
Webster.
Appearing before the board was Andrew Warne, Ulrich Sign Co. [tis a pretly straightforward
request. There is an existing 3 X 10 box sign already on the building and all we are looking to do
is simply change the face plate on it as you can sce Burd Physical Therapy.
Same location and everything?
Nothing is moving. the box is slaying the same. We are just looking to pul the
hew face in,
Alright, anybody?
Is the sign hiv?
Yes, internally Lit,
Is the white opaque on it when it’s Tit?
The whole sign will be lit but the whole sign will be translucent and vinyl.
And the while is opaque
Yes
So, the white ts Mat.
No, the whole sign face will be It just like how the other one was before.
Should be just your letters or numbers should be lit and the white should be
darken so that the white doesn’t show the ight at night. The idea was to always tone them down
and that was away of doing it.
Ok.
Who is doing your sign?
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Uldrich Sign Company. That is just the material, [Cis just poly carbonate, so il
does allow light to pass through it, So potentially, if the board wanted, we could figure out how
to put a block out on it.
That is what we have done in the past.
That is not what the previous sign was. The previous sign just hacl...
That is probably something that they did later, gosh know but and actually the
code even calls for that. So, if you can do that, that would be great.
Ok.
Derek Anderson:
RESOLUTION
Town of Webster Planning Board considered the request by Applicants, Patrice Lesniak & Chris
McCaffrey of Ulrich Sign Co. to construct a 30 SF building mounted fagade sign for Burd
Physical Therapy located at 847 Halt Road on a 4.89-acre parcel having SBL# 079.08-1- 9.11.
‘The Planning Board classifies the proposed action to be a Type HW Action under Section
617.5(c)(9) of the State Environmental Review (SEQR) Regulations and therefore is not subject
to further review.
RESOLUTION 23-104 Derek Anderson made a motion for 'PYPE II
SEQR which was seconded by Jolin Kosei.
VOTE:
Mr. Anderson AYE
Mr. Kose] AYE
Mr. Malta AYE
Mr. Meixell AYE
Mr. Casciani AYE
Mr. Giardina ABSENT
Mrs. Wright AYE
RESOLUTION 23-105 John Kosel a made a motion for SIGN
APPROVAL Located at 847 Holt Road.
Applicants Patrice Lesniak & Chris McCallrey of
Ulrich Sign Co. are requesting SIGN
APPROVAL to allow a 30 SF building mounted
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fagade sign for a physical therapy business on a
4.89-acre parcel having SBL# 079.08. 1-9, 1 1
located in an OP Office Park under Section 265-7
of the Code of the Town of Webster which was
seconded by Derek Meixell.
VOTE:
Mr. Anderson AYE
Mr. Kosel AYE
Mr. Malta AYE
Mr. Meixell AYE
Mr. Caseciani AYE
Mr. Giardina ABSENT
Mrs. Wright AYE
The gentleman for the other sign is here. For the Puff N’ Stulf sign.
Ok, why don’t you just hold off Matt fora second. We will go back to the
beginning, Puff N° Saul?
(Anthony Casctant read the third application):
Located at 964 Ridge Road. Applicant Matt
Tomlinson of Marathon Engineering is requesting SKETCH PLAN REVHIEW associated with
the proposed redevelopment of the former Hegadorn’s Supermarket Plaza on a 6.68-acre parcel
having SBL #079.15-1-1.1 located in an HC High Intensity Commercial District under Section
269-5 of the Code of the Town of Webster,
Appearing before the board Appearing before the board was Matt Tomlinson with Marathon
Engincering and we are the Civil Engineers on the project Al Hazelwood is the Project Architect
and then we have various representatives of the ownership with us as well. We are excited to be
here and appreciate the board adding us to the agenda. We have liad some initial discussion wath
stall and wanted to bring this to the board because we do want to advance Planning Board
approvals. We felt that sketch plan discussion and getting some feedback on what are plans
would be a beneht to help us streamline the approval process as we come forward. We are
looking to submit at the next deadline which is in aboutla week and halfso we will be back in
front of Unis board relatively quickly assuming that we are not headed in the complete wrong
clirection,
So. as mentioned, the property is al 946 Ridge Road, down the streel, at the northwest corner of
Hard Road and Ridge Road . We are proposing some updates to the facade which | wall turn
over to Al ina couple minutes to talk through, but the site plan changes is that we wanted to
highhieht for the board and i you can see the cursor is primarily focused at the front of the plaza
oriented to Hard Road. As you know, there are some vacancies m the upper level of the plaza
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and the parking lot slopes very steeply from south to north which causes some issues with ADA,
Accessibility, parking in there as well. The majority of the parcel is currently paved with very
lite landscaping. So, we are really looking to dress the plaza up. Not juston the fagade and for
accessibility but also by adding landscaping and islands with some traftic common as well. So,
you will see a new green perimeter: a flattened access drive that brings vehicles to the rear of the
parking vs right along the front which allows for some cut through traffic which we will be
looking to avoid and then the addition of a retaining wall to help lift up that lower northern
portion of the plaza parking so that folks can more casily walk to the front door along the entirely
of the fagade, Those changes did necessitate in a loss of parking spaces, Right now, there is 308
parking spaces on the plaza and so in order to help clevate that and try and maintain as much
parking as possible, we have reconfigured and restriped within the existing pavement limits in
the lower parking and looking to provide some access or accessibility within the corner tower
with stair; clevator or combination of those that would allow for overflow parking on the lower
level to casily come up to that upper level on the plaza as well.
] neglected to mention, there is one row of parking added within some green space on the lower
level just to get us closer. So, the proposed number of spaces is 290 parking spaces in total at the
plaza with a net loss of 18 spaces. We think that a mixed-use development with multi tenants
and there will be sufficient parking for it number one, and number two, we have been able to add
alot of green to the plaza which has some stormwater benefits; some beautification benefits
without losing very many spaces. We think it will be a great addition to that, With that, | will
turn iLover to Al to talk about the fagade of the building.
The upper piece which will call the cast building clevation 1s onc that presents
itself to Hard Road. We have taken the original building that has some small additions and
canopies and some loading docks and those types of things anc have removed them and raised
the grade as Matt said to facilitate public and pedestrian access into, he plaza strip and the store,
the plaza itself can be broken out into numerous layouts but at this pot we have it somewhat
phased and into three or four layouls depending on how you want lo reference them. Over on the
right had side, which would be the north, is the and | have indicated that there is probably going
10 be a vertical evaluator lift that would provide access from the lower level of the site to the
main level. So, like Matt had said, we have access for folks lo vertical elevation without
somewhat of a hazard. Then we have the fagade improvement around to the south and has it
wrap some of the front of the building to soflen some of the harshness of just a flat building and
we have also added the stone, vencer that we are going to propose further down where the
loading dock is. On my drawing it indicates that the loading dock on the side of the south will be
modihed and will only be for boxed trucks. Ie wouldia’t be meant for any semi-trailer (ruck
access, “That loading dock would be towards the northwest corner of the property. fs there any
questions anyone would like to presen?
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At this point, | think itis moving along well. Jolooks good. When we spoke,
I inentioned the loading dock and you agreed to climinate the tractor trailers. Ithas been a
headache with those guys parking in the road and everything. So, box trucks are fine and then the
large trucks going around the back.
The box trucks would be able to stage that loading area without encroaching in
traffic and then tractor trailers can come down and loop around back and use the north portion
and thanks for bringing that up. One of the other benefits with potential users with not as a
heavy delivery as a grocery store or some others. We will expect a few less trucks delivery wise,
at least on the large side, so there would be some benefits related to just how many delivery
vehicles we are queuing in along the front on Ridge Road there and really help with circulation,
And the other issuc, Matt we spoke, E don’t know what is going to be required
for any detention or anything on that site.
Matt Tomlinsom So, the storm water requirements are, if you reduce your disturbance limits,
which we are not disturbing all of the plaza but the whole front forthe most part. Ifyou add 25
% greenspace from what is there today that satisfies all DEC all stormwater requirements and by
extension the towns MS4 requirements so we will have that detail for this board when we come
back in, but L anticipate that any stormwater treatment is required it will be relatively minimal
because of how much landscaping we are adding.
That area that you show to the north, where you have five...yeah. right there.
(SHOWING PLANS ON THE SCREEN) That area, if nothing else, somewhat of a containment
like what they have down in front of Taco Bell.
Yes, there is some bio retention there.
What do you call those retentions?
Bio retentions areas.
And they look good to, so you still have a decorative setting.
On the northeast corner, is the liquor store still going to be there?
That addition will be coming off the plaza.
The portion of the liquor store that is current there, or contained and the
northeast corner is going to be removed and the upper portion of it, if you follow the sequence,
will be an addition or part of the main floor and then we would be squaring off the building so
there 1s no projections lowards the east.
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Right now, along this fagade there is about an 8-foot grade change from the
existing grocery store entrance to where the liquor store ts, so we are looking to fill in that entire
fagade to have a level frontage to the plaza,
What about the corner, the southwest corner. Is that whole parking lot going to
be...... because that parking lot gocs down a hill a bit is all that going to be Hat as well,
im sorry, are you talking down here, northeast corner?
Southeast at Ridge Road right in the intersection where it goes to Shoccralt . |
am trying to envision that. Doesn’U that slop down as well. That area is not fat either,
It does slope down a bit and right now the pavement actually goes right up to
the sidewatk a little on Ridge and there is very lithe separation along Hard Road as well so, we
have pulled the parking areca back towards the building a little bit in order to slope up the lawn
Justa touch in that area so , it will fall away from the building just tike anormal parking lot like
Weemnans or anything like that but it will be much flatter than it is today.
| was just ying to picture how you will fll that in, “Phat is alot of Hil
It just takes money, thats i. (LAUGHTER) and yes, it will be a substantial
change lo that plaza.
On the west side, is that? ] feel like there is a slope to that to.
At the rear of the plaza?
Yes, on the west side of the building. ICs been awhile since | lave been back
there.
[Cs rchatively (Mat at the lower level.
That is where they do all the cross-counly car washes. [tis pretty fat back
there.
[t's flat bat in kind of climbs where the roadway goes.
Are you still going to have room for the cross country and the car washes back
there.
There will be plenty of room back there. Yes, we are not really changing the
pavement limits. Just restriping itand maybe some new lighting. we will see where tt fits. “Phe
only really change through the parking again ts the row there just to make up some of what we
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fost on the front so you can’t sce what Fam looking out but there will be an additional row of
parking and then right in the front of Warren’s we are putting some parking along the frontage
of the store for convenience and ADA accessibility as well right in here,
Now, is Warrens staying there and through the construction?
Yes
Ok, anyone else,
This looks fantastic. Some fill company ts going (o be very happy.
(LAUGHTER)
You have a pile of dirt over by... When they dug up Hard Road. Whatis all
that dirt over there. That is a major pole of it. Is that what that is for’? Ok, EF guess we are all set
then,
(Anthony Casctani read the fourth application):
457 PINEVILLE LANE IN-LAW ADDITION: Located at 457 Pineville Lane. Applicant
Robert & Jennifer DeVos for are requesting an ACCESSORY APARTMENT WAIVER
FOR OVERALL SIZE associated with the construction of a 916 Sk handicap accessible in
law addition to an cxisting single-family residence on a O.45-acre parcel having SBL# 050.03-
6-74 located in an R-3 Single Family Residential District ander Section 350-50 of the Cade of
the Town of Webster.
Appearing before the board was (NOT SPEAKING CLEARLY INTO MIC AND DID NOT
SIGN JN) INAUDIABLE Construction, The plan is to hopefully build this for Bob DeVos
and wife and mother in-law who is presently looking lo move in the proposed addition which
goes beyond your square footage requirement with the town. Essentially what this is, ts a
handicapped accessible in-law apartment that will have a small kitchenette; small, handicapped
bathroom; a bedroom and it living space.
There is access to the family through a doorway so thal they can share meals if they so desire
but al the same time, she can have her own space . We looked into meeting and conforming
with (he square footage requirement. Phe customer actually paid an architect to do a drawing
and we went through the process to see if the square footage that would conform would work
with what we were looking to de, and it became to cumbersome and not actually a comfortable
living space. Iwas really difficult, and we couldn't get her the square footage that she needed
if she potentially went into a wheelchair, which she is not but when we construct these types of
projects. we hike lo anticipate any future issucs that might arise.
I don’t see any other issues. The property is a farger property where it docs not obstruct any
ones view: the grade is such that we should not have any water drainage issues. We looked at
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other areas in the house lo potentially do this sometimes we wall build out a garage but thal
didn’t work in this particular situation. That’s the overview of what we are anticipating doing.
Josh, the waiver for a project like this, did they have to get a vartance at all?
No
They did not, so this would be parlof waiver that would be with the town,
Correct.
Ok, so if we are good with that and we move on with the size and so on
and so forth, can we do preliminary approval on it too?
Preliminary/Final is not required. It ts just an overall variance for deviating set
forth in the code with 35%. See section C-3.
Ok
7. ver Ir . ; . i srotoqe
How much bigger it ts.
1s quite a bit bigger
It is approximately 900 square feet going from your ordinances which is S00 square
fect,
Well, 500 is if it is detached and 750 if itis allached so 750 is usually the
maximum and they are proposing 916,
Ok, my concern was that they we didn’t have to show it as a public hearing
and obviously not then. OK, we are good with tt.
(nol speaking clearly The layout that is in the package is that the ultimate
layout that you are going with and the ramp, that must run on the side of the garage for aceess
lo the front of the house.
Essentially Cts nota ramp itnot a visible ramp. We are building on grade and the
pitch on that property is such so that there is a grade change on the back, so we got lucky there.
There is an existing walkway there so we can enter right into he addition at that level and it
actually Ges in with the level of their house. ft's kind of strange but we have some luck on our
side. So. there won't be a visible ramp but, in the negatives of that from the neighbors point of
view,
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Derek Anderson:
RESOLUTION
Town of Webster Planning Board considered the request by Applicant, Robert & Jennifer De Vos
for an accessory apartment waiver for overall size associated with the construction of a 916 SE
handicap accessible in-law addition to an existing single-family residence located at 457
Pineville Lane on a 0.45-acre parcel having SBL# 050.03-6-74.
The Phinning Board classifies the proposed action to be a Type 1 Action tinder Section
617.5(c)(9) of the State Environmental Review (SEQR) Regulations and therefore is not subject
to further review.
RESOLUTION 23-106 Derek Anderson made a motion for TYPE H
SEQR which was seconded by John Kosel.
VOTE:
Mr. Anderson AYE
Mr. Kosel AYE
Mr. Malta AYE
Mr. Meixell AYE
Mr. Casciani AYE
Mr. Giardina ABSENT
Mrs. Wright AYE
RESOLUTION 23-107
Anthony Casciant made a motion for
ACCESSORY APARTMENT WAIVER
Located al 457 Pineville Lane. Applicant Robert
& Jennifer DeVos for are requesting an
ACCESSORY APARTMENT WAIVER FOR
OVERALL SEZE associated with the
construction of a 946 SF handicap accessible in
law addition to an existing single-family residence
on a 0.45-acre parcel having SBL# 050.03-6-74
located in an R-3 Single Family Residential
District under Section 350-S0 of the Code of the
Town of Webster which was seconded by Dave
Malta.
VOTE:
Mr. Anderson AYE
Mr. Kosel AYE
Mr. Miatlta AYE
Mr. Meixell AYE
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Mr. Casciant AYE
Mr. Giardina ABSENT
Mrs. Wright AYE
SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS:
f. Zoning ordinance of 350-50 regarding accessory apartments.
2. Occupancy is for personal, family member and not to be rented out.
3. The same utilities as the home: no separate utilities
So, you have access to going into from the other on your Moor plan?
Yes
When you have it completed before you get a certificate of occupancy,
you will need paperwork to file this with Monroe County. So that is parl of it
(Anthony Casciant read the fifth application):
VERIZON ROOF TOP MICROCELL @ CHERRY RIDGE, Located at 900-965 Cherry
Ridge Blvd. Applicant Steve Fantuzzo, Nixon Peabody LLP Attorneys for Verizon Wireless is
requesting PRELIMINARY/FINAL SITE PLAN APPROVAL (#
PUBLIC HEARING
*)
associated with (he installation of a microcell facility and associated cquipment atop a building
in the Cherry Ridge development on a 39.21-acre parcel having SBL# 079.14- 1-40.11 Jocated
inan MEHR Medium High Residential District under Sections 130-8 and 130-11] of the Code of
the Town of Webster.
Appearing before the board was Robert Burgdorf with Nixon Peabody (DID NOT SIGN EN) also
with me is Mike Crosby who ts the RF Engineer for Verizon and Will Groover who is the Site
Acquisition Specialist lor Verizon. This ts an application for approvals fora cell site remedy for
the service deficiencies in what we call the five mile 104 INAUDIBALE geographic area that is
expericncing service difficulties. You probably Know [rom previous applications, by us or other
cell carriers. that there is limited Mexibility as to where you can place one of these Tactlities and
still make i work properly with the network.
We first looked for INAUDIBLE opportunities before we could before introducing a new tower,
In this case, we were able to find a location/opportunity that is on the rool top, 49 square feet
rool top, penthouse actually portion of the reef top at St. Anas Senior Home 900 Cherry Ridge
Road, You can see from the site plan, and this is up en the sereen rieht now, showing a pair of
about 4 2 fect antennas mounted on a poles and roughly about 10-foot total clevation on top of
the penthouse. ICs visually minimal. Exhibit K has photos. Hyou looked at the application,
there are some minor cquipment cabinets as well that are attached to the house electronic
equipment and that is all there is to this one, Procedurally, is requires a special use from the
Town Board and we have been tn front of the Town Board. and they reviewed it and also
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requires site plan approval from this board as well as County referral and of course, SEQR
review.
So, that is where we are right now. Let me stop there. [tis a pretty straight forward application
for one of these cell sites and let me see if the board has any questions.
Something like this, is this something in ficu of a regular cell tower
ordinarily...
Yes, instead of being on a tower the antennas are simply mounted on a
structure.
[ts more of a fill in type of site so of course you are familiar with our traditional
macro sites, like the one we have at the Police Department. We call that one Hard & Ridge and
of course one at the town highway garage so of course we have various, ccll tower macro Lype
sites that provide the blanket umbrella coverage area but because we have been building
coverage deliciencies and also because of the capacity needs [rom those big siles being
overloaded this is more of a densification effort to fill in the existing network arcas where we
are having coverage and capacity issucs. The coverage is related more to in building number one
and two, Verizon like other wireless carriers is licensed by the FCC lo operate is various service
bands so we have various [requencies that our service operates on and not all created equally.
Our higher frequency bands tn this case, this ts a what we call a mud-band coverage. site, Our
mid-band service when we add that to this site, which this site is designed to have, it will help to
olfload not only the existing mid-band in the area but also the low band that gets into the area
from the neighboring cxisting site. So, it’s like a three-dimensional puzzle that you put together
and there is different pieces that fit in different ways. This is a nice opportunity for us to use an
existing structure without having to have a major impact visually.
And this will provide the same service in terns of the user, it does the same
things as a regular macro would do
So, do other ...this is Verizon so would any other would have the opportunity
to co-locate? | don’t know bow these work.
Phis is not intended for....dhis is just for Verizon,
So, this is just for filling in basically.
Any of those other carriers at various points and time Pam sure, they do ful it type
siles as well and what we are doing does not prevent them from doing something similar, They
just may have a different way of doing it and we certainly cannot speak for them,
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If they wanted to co-locate on this building, of course we have no control over
that. They would have to go to St. Ann’s and work a deal with them and then come before the
town to get their approval.
Alright well, this is a public hearing. 1] guess we will bring it back to the
board. Does anyone have any issues or concerns with it?
This is a popular situation through out the town to be located on top of a building
like this. Which ! think is way betler than INAUDIBLE
It also ts set way back and you won't see tt. The other peak is about the same
height as the tower would be.
Josh, does this have to go to Town Board lor someone to be lead agent for
something like this?
In terms for SEQR? [dow t believe they declared themselves as lead agency [or
this.
Alright, in that case, we can keep moving forward with it.
Derck Anderson:
RESOLUTION
Town of Webster Planning Board considered the request by Applicant, Steve Fantuzzo from
Nixon Peabody LLP, Attorneys for Verizon Wireless, to install a microcell facility and
assaciated equipment atop a building in the Cherry Ridge development located at 900-965
Cherry Ridge Blvd on a 39.2 l-acre parcel having SBILL# 079. 14-1-40.
11. The Planning Board classifies the proposed action to be a Type TH Action under Section
617.5(c)(9) of the State Environmental Review (SEQR) Regulations and therefore is not subjcet
to further review,
RESOLUTION 23-108 Derck Anderson made a motion for TYPE II
SEQR which was seconded by Derek Mcixcll.
VOTE:
Mr. Anderson AYE
Mr. Kaosel AYE
Mr. Malta AYE
Mr. Meixell AYE
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Mr. Casciani AYE
Mr. Criardina ABSENT
Mrs. Wright AYE
RESOLUTION 23-109 Dave Malta made a motion for FINAL
APPROVAL Located at 900-965 Cherry Ridge
Blvd. Applicant Steve Fantuzzo, Nixon Peabody
LLP Attorneys for Verizon Wireless is requesting
FINAL SITE PLAN APPROVAL (FPUBLIC
HEARING*) associated with the installation of a
microcell facility and associated equipment atop a
building in the Cherry Ridge development on a
39.2 b-aere parcel having SBL#079.14- 1-40.11
located in an MHR Medium High Residential
District under Sections 130-8 and }30-11 of the
Code of the Town of Webster which was
seconded by Derek Meixell.
I, Subject to Preliminary Approval.
2, Significant construction shall occur within one year, as deemed by the Planning
Board, to expire on 9.5.24
Phat’s no problem, we understand. We INAUDIBLE construction schedule
and it depends on what is in front of it, and it should be done within a year or at least started.
It's a big company and we have a lot of projects going on and this is a key
steppingstone Tor us to get it into the build plan so of course once we vet our building permit
then it gets in the hopper for build plan, but we already have all of our sites that are im
construction for 2023 so it would be in 2024 and the minimuns that we would start would be
in 2024.
You should be ok within a year, Even if not, you would just came back
and re-apply and that shouldi’t be an issue.
These are things we dont know 100% sure sitting here but that sounds good,
Thank you
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VOTE:
Mr. Anderson AYE
Mr. Kosel AYE
Mr. Malta AYE
Mr. Metxell AYE
Mr. Casciani AYE
Mr. Gtardina ABSENT
Mrs. Wright AYE
(Anthony Casciani_ read the sixth application):
SPLASH CAR WASH EXTENSION OF APPROVAL: Located at 1013 Ridge Road.
Applicant Anne Riley, LLC Attorney for Splash Car Wash is requesting a 1-YEAR
EXTENSION OF SITE PLAN APPROVAL associated with the construction of a 7.000 SF
car wash facility and associated improvements on a 2.16-acre parcel having SBL# 079.15- |
16.003 located in an MC Medium Intensity Commercial District under Section 269-17 of the
Code of the Town of Webster.
Appearing before the board was Anne Riley. So, we had a varianee with the Zoning Board, and
they extended it last month, so we are just looking for this site plan approval to be extended for
another year. We are in Htigation, and PE represent the properly owner so we are in litigation, but
itis very possible thatit will be resolved shortly, and we don’t want (o loose these approvals if
we can get them extended.
So, let me understand, the approval HW itis updated again, is that for the
owners of the property or for the applicant who applied?
Iwas for both. [iwas applied to by both, The applicant and property owner.
It is for the car wash.
Ils for the property.
| am sorry?
Il is for the property, and we want these approvals to be extended for a year for the
site plan and subdivision, Everything was approved last year.
Yes, ] was reading itand there is Dave Clemons, and he was the original
applicant, so he received approvals. So. this is the update for him again.
Yes
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Along with Fox or whoever the owners are.
Well, the Foxes own the property. Their entities own the property.
OK. [just wanted to make sure that we had it, Ok, [don’t have any issues
with it.
I thought there was one thing with the lighting.
Last year was the approval and one thing that £ found after that this was
approved, that the location that they have in Geneva and down the road, Ethink itis Seneca that
they way the buildings are constructed while the lighting is on the inside of the building that it
spills out in the road and you can read newspapers across the street from the amount of light
pollution that these facilities put out and ] want to make sure that the lighting is corrected that i
does not leave the building. They put glass all the way around the wash bays, and they have a
big lower with glass on the top and this really, really bright pink neon lighting that wraps around
the whole building and we cannot allow that. It is like a beacon that goes off and you see it from
miles away. Is an eye sore,
In this approval for extension can you add that as a condition of that the lighting be
iddressed’?
Derek, suppose we make the approval for the extension, subject to them re
appearing before the board for any updated or whatever prior to getting a building permit. Ok,
are you comfortable with that.
Yes
That's a good idea because | can’t really address the construction,
So, we will put the burden on them, When they come in to get a building
permit, they would have to re-appear for a short review of what they are doing.
The site has a lighting plan on it, but the lighting plan did not show these neon
strips at their other facilites thal wrap around the entire building and windows.
Probably those other locates liked that.
Nobody would like this,
} don’t know, and Phaven’t see any of those.
You can see it miles away and you can read a newspaper across the strect.
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There is another one on 250 now in Pentield. They have replaced and rebuilt
where the old Perkins was.
I have not been by tt, but itis not a bad idea to put that in your approval, so they do
pay attention to it. TPyou are saying that their lighting plan that they submitted last year doesn't
show that, then they should have to comply with what they submitted because that is...
Well, sec the problem ts that we require is strictly like a fight pole and they
cume that way inthe plan. The problem is this is the type of lighting that is wound up being pul
on the side of the building and an example, Oaklee as he built the Country Max. They have all
this bright LED lighting that goes around the entire building, and it is not showing up in the
lighting plan and the other issue with this place, is the interior ighting in the wash bays and the
way they do it. They have big glass windows that pours outside in the street. So, it is not
something that would be caught on a regular lighting plan, i€'s the lighting concept for the
building that needs to change.
Ok, we will just do that and make that part of the resolution,
RESOLUTION 23-H1 Anthony Casciant made a motion for
MODIFICATION APPROVAL Located at
1013 Ridge Road. Applicant Anne Riley, LLC
Attorney for Splash Car Wash is requesting a 1-
YEAR EXTENSION OF SITE PLAN
APPROVAL associated with the construction of
a 7,000 SF car wash facility and associated
improvements on a 2.16-acre parcel having SBL#
079. t5-1-16.003 located in.an MC Medium
Intensity Commercial District under Section 269
17 of the Code of the Town of Webster which
was seconded by Derek Meixell,
CONDITIONS:
¢ Subject to prior to receiving a building permit, applicant should re-appear to the
Planning Board for review of update on their proposed project for site and fagade
lighting plan
Since this doesn’ Cexpire HI October 4, 23 should the other one capire October 4.
24)
VOTE:
Mr. Anderson AYE
Mr. Kosel AYE
Mr. Malta AYE
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Mr. Meixell AYE
Mr. Cascian AYE
Mr. Giardina ABSENT
Mrs. Wright AYE
No Minutes were approved.
With no other applications before the Board this evening Anthony Casciani concluded tonight's
meeting al 8:00 PM.
Respecttully Submitted,
i a Lge
Mark Giarflina, Secretary
Katherine Kolich, Recording Secretary
Signed
SEP 24°23 an7:07
FILED WEBSTER TWN CLK
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