Planning Board Meeting
Planning Minutes 2024.03.05

Minutes

March 5, 2024 · 66 min read · extracted text · View original

WEBSTER TOWN PLANNING BOARD MINUTES

PLACE

Webster Town Board Meeting Room 1002 Ridge Road

TIME

7:00 p.m.

DATE

5 March 2024

PRESENT

ABSENT:

Anthony Casciani, Chairman

Dave Malta, Vice Chairman

Derek Anderson

Mark Giardina, Secretary

John Kosel

Derek Meixell

Peggy Maltman

Josh Artuso, Director of Community Development

Katherine Kolich, Recording Secretary

Kyle Taylor, Attorney

Anthony Casciani

Welcome to the March 5, 2024 Webster Planning Board meeting.

Please join us in the Pledge of Allegiance. Roll call

Anthony Casciani

The first two items actually, The Lochner Subdivision at 1854 Lake Road has

been tabled to the April 9, 2024 meeting and also Bella Terra.

Summary overview of outcome:

TABLED MATTERS

:

LOCHNER SUBDIVISION

Applicant

McMahon LaRue

Status

THIS APPLICATION IS TABLED UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE; PENDING

JURISDICTIONAL DETERMINATION ON WETLAND FROM ARMY CORPS OF

ENGINEERS.

BELLA TERA SECTION II

Applicant

Tom Thomas

Status

APPLICANT REQUESTED TO TABLE APPLICATION TO APRIL 9, 2024

SCHEDULED MATTERS

:

POPEYES RESTAURANT-925 HARD ROAD

Applicant

Liberty Restaurant

Status

APPROVED WITH CONDITIONS: FIRE FLOW TEST NEEDED FOR THE

ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT; SHOW BANKED PARKING.

Pg. 18 March 5, 2024 Planning Meeting

JULIANNA SALON-980 RIDGE ROAD

Applicant

Ralph Baranes

Status

APPROVED WITH CONDITIONS: ONLY LETTERS TO BE LIT.

POOL HOUSE AND IN-GROUND POOL-688 ADMIRALTY WAY

Applicant

Robert Neufeld

Status

APPROVED WITH CONDITIONS: NEED UPDATED PLANS.

SIGN-TO THE CORE LAGREE VERSA STUDIO-1028 RIDGE ROAD

Applicant

Erin Ferrente

Status

APPROVED AS PRESENTED.

(Mark Giardina read the first application):

LOCHNER SUBDIVISION

Located just west of 1854 Lake Road. Applicant McMahon

LaRue Associates is requesting PRELIMINARY/FINAL SITE PLAN & SUBDIVISION

APPROVAL (

PUBLIC HEARING

) associated with the re subdivision of a 21.8-acre parcel

into (2) 3-acre lots (to be developed with single family residences) and (1) 15.8-acre lot (to

remain undeveloped) having SBL# 037.03-1-36 located in an LL Large Lot Single Family

Residential District under Section 269-11 and 296-15 of the Code of the Town of Webster.

Applicant requested to table until further notice.

RESOLUTION 24-009 Anthony Casciani made a motion to TABLED

APPLICATION UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE

which was seconded by Derek Meixell.

VOTE:

Mr. Anderson AYE

Mr. Kosel AYE

Mr. Malta AYE

Mr. Meixell AYE

Mr. Casciani AYE

Mr. Giardina AYE

Mrs. Maltman AYE

(Mark Giardina read the second application):

BELLA TERRA SECTION II

Located near the southwest corner of Salt and Schlegel Roads.

Applicant Tom Thomas of 800 Phillips Road LLC is requesting FINAL SITE PLAN &

SUBDIVISION APPROVAL associated with the construction of 60 townhomes on a 26.8-acre

parcel having SBL # 065.02-1-40.222 located in an MHR Medium High Residential District under

Section 269-9 and 296-19 of the Code of the Town of Webster.

Applicant requested to table until April 16, 2024

Pg. 19 March 5, 2024 Planning Meeting

APPLICATION TO APRIL 9, 2024 MEETING

RESOLUTION 24-0010 Derek Anderson made a motion to TABLE

[ which was seconded by John Kosel.

VOTE:

Mr. Anderson AYE

Mr. Kosel AYE

Mr. Malta AYE

Mr. Meixell AYE

Mr. Casciani AYE

Mr. Giardina AYE

Mrs. Maltman AYE

(Mark Giardina read the third application):

POPEYE'S RESTAURANT

Located directly south of 925 Hard Road. Applicant Liberty

Restaurant Development is requesting PRELIMINARY / FINAL SITE PLAN APPROVAL

(

PUBLIC HEARING

) associated with the construction of a 2,532 SF restaurant with double drive

through lanes on a 1.19-acre parcel having SBL# 079.1 1-1-12.12 located in an HC High Intensity

Commercial District under Sections 269-11 and 350-19 of the Code of the Town of Webster.

(Mr. Kosel had a question regarding the agenda stating directly south of Hard Road, he thought it

should be west. Mr. Artuso explained it is to the south of the property located at 925)

Appearing before the board was Brett Steenburgh and I am the Engineer for the applicant,

Liberty Restaurant Development for Popeye’s Restaurant at 929 Hard Road. Since we were here

last, we have gone through a round of comments from the towns designated Engineer. We also

went to the Zoning Board of Appeals to request relief from the parking requirements which the

parking requirements for this site would have required 202 parking spaces for the restaurant and

we have 24 parking space proposed for the 24-seat restaurant with the double drive through.

The Zoning Board of Appeals requested one minor addition to the plan and that would be the

inclusion to show somewhere we have snow storage there, so banked parking spaces if

necessary. Every time I go through these restaurants, the parking is empty, and the drive thru is

full. It just seems to be the way the fast-food trend seems to be going in the United States

especially post COVID. I would rather leave that area green then pave it and have vacant parking

spaces and the Zoning Board of Appeals tended to agree but we did include showing the

additional ten banked parking spaces along the site there.

The latest round of comments are from the towns designated Engineer. (SEE ATTACHED

LIST OF COMMENTS;RESPONSES; PLANS) were dated February

20. We addressed those

and sent them back in and they were late coming in because....we responded to them as quickly

as we could from February 20" and I think we sent them back in on the 23" but there is a

response letter I can go through the responses if you like, or you can. I don’t know if you had

L Pg. 20 March 5, 2024 Planning Meeting

Tae Tat mas

EXTERIOR ELEVATION NOTES et) ic a

ef eae freeman nonusers

meron ormeensnne _. hi oe

er ————T ‘

roerer torr = =

Q — —

(1) ows erin ry rete were cL

nore (G2) 3 ae}

= HEE UL It SB - 8 a

r i anemone es =

4 @ LI i —

ae 13 erreur See a

Cd Slag carer meee eee ree

oe bac LA aem 2 LOCA Ade yrPa ere, oh HO COD Pa eR NC TA A Nae es oT Te CLL Pt PC

a ‘SC TaEA PE Li anc en raat a LEST PRICY npn rT 70.68 EMU = i —

= [i] mets nim — sae power 86 a t +—

es SeiRSee Rares ewer cm sintmermieseeeae| fm —

Qoaet ¥ Foren nagnsacry srvieiva Biewidanhd idl CORIDEATS Opa fee ¢o taba Ai ALTIER i 7O-DOUINMATY a

Forge ord reel een eenppe on

\ Lipo Le el ot APE AnD avandia PO PREC 9 Bre 7

j iC] = |—+ =

" GE cpgeem sng mer em rere ona arn

8. NOt RAPE PLOW Se TOMO J

ae bea a 08 —i ee E

a=

*s, [ol sarees ge meres orem ecmtron s courren ure 6 ro gman ols ts Sbirene TG coer

\ t ,| * wou ws {EP am

f : — [El cnteao ene sexcarm oor acer mene tamer

(it) cr commer carro,

it a LL. : LL} ‘ 6 ocamees

~--4 wie bkbet- (Fitts rons Errante Pere

e ag wee gee 5

(TY) PROPOSED REAR ELEVATION [a] memmeret en verm r ppnara = cbusETANS Gt 79 cranny ceive coaree

Saecrie Gawtacnuceorumae

‘ay a as = —

res —

eB Ls Pes, lel i ST ee A Ge

{9} ac mover ocr om

Scourcemsnenena

(i taeu tated SUPPLY daca AMY COMIN ;

(FD) mee rm ce Fy it Pree Lied ENORAEEN TS CONFORM TO ALL AAPUCABLL

(Sem orate ete iene =f

ce) ™ Bl i © Teatiemieer narra ee ewrocur como |e

O¢ © a= Ceensoreeumuarcesicin {f

[aj ous cen untertach AUPE TO LEENA ECHO OF THE ARCHSTECT And EMER OF MECORD e

= (© cqurpera newer G AAPOR TOT mn ' e

orem comer

a

Hi

rife zeae

erate ae |

stot HHhe

[SS Pees ee

ie |

i

LILA

AW

ff a saree Pi a &

; =

a ee ee = ce = es ea ose bee a Se Seely 4 4 s-e=4 we 214 PROTOTYPE

, { Perel

cs B & a d a tra j

PROTOTYPE <

T\_ PROPOSED SIDE ELEVATION 2124 (U.S) fs

boo tee CaTY, STATE 4

=_eorrrrrr e

EXTERIOR 5

ELEVATIONS Fy

GENERAL NOTES SYMBOL LEGEND . .

ber contmcvon wets ue CG) aperorarnce rte a |

fe) mee TE +

= 8 |

"

Lie

—— ELEVATION NOTES ee es

ra aS " ARI POS eRgTgTYrr nogam ert

FS tna anal) aT Aa, Call AO CP PS Me TG ae mance Mola ot ah PA UA [PO | = ee | es a eee

meen fp atta ema td eben? ETL SET ——" .

roemas =

2 seen PeTADEWRES. COLON weet wade APPPA TO POPIYTS ASTI KOMERLE

¢ wate 1 olen rhe 10 RAE TP mT cPLA

.

Bibi nad

Lomsl chin ililieaiaiall

- om Coorg

u Ls 0 Seder LAD Or Gh Cae OE NO Pere ane mero)

Firweos Shine reowassd HAO retail echoes WMD al som SIPeTICeN Bearer bs nut ha —

ary rear pert

1 DL OPP ACTUAL OFAN 4 MF OF Pal a liner fal

GEE 10) rae t socanone On & Ooi AA Taste 0 a

Srocserrarvancon mmchon i

_ ALLIS OF inte Coma FroTrmon —

mene Peenauas taba bre ru vempod acrid alien PACT Wedd Oh FTRETYALALL 9 Be PS eels mall

nnAge eeverre Mace fed CTY bet Orr Oe SPAS ae ls wr!

orsatie ‘nice ynornsnd eee ems DAMME REVISED AB PER td MALLET ON

, a | panera

CoP \ ve comers com copa ——

~ H 7 Ti | (et soya saan araaradt OC Nhat

Semen BAe a

s —

Hak

ac

oy Pore EA

a

[oa Sree OCA TO-GF ROOF RIAL RAR

ta ccna ne arts,

(a2) recone aon TR ine or ranaret meaismrriats .

TA) reread Pesce warring oievteet tae

ts PROJECT NOMTH

ane eens esa

cn AL =3] Me mermemda even Frm Baro LEOLMZCTON Non 9 Yocom ove recede iBone SSeS

Pee ee oe ry ory ee

t seers re er aes ma nmermaneses =

(> PROPOSED FRONT ELEVATION = Sanaa om SS

MAE wearer 7 rea anvem sat mw PRC OPED Do Ee eo lame

Soe HP CALATIVE Piva 9 LAPP © AOD ANTAL OO EIN Seareaanee QT gm Pima oer

3 acreenomne room acs ene

manent OF Prana me

THERE COCUMENTS Mae? Of COMPLETED AMD!

Ce see Sea Sure an deers Bem Eee SR MOOIIED BY A UC EMBED: ARCANTECT AMO

a 27) SPAR eT DOU TO OF em eT COMES TD COMPEOG TO ALL APPLICABLE

(in) 0 Tan H _ eLL AcOe GATY an mea vt Cae Sr Gnmaarnasarian nae on

Cas\ rene * 7; CPU TY ABC haa wadna, oe CPREESED THAT THE BE OSC MEENTE MEET

oe ee ay Gy ee Sere or BC APPR PO CTL THE APRUCABLE CODE AEGUAEMEWT SE

Ten AABEITY FOR THE DERION ANCANY ULE OF 1D

e TE COCLAENTS EB THE OLE RE RPDHULIT

a) raat BOOP eerie PR AG PLCC BOE OF Teef ateGoSTEGT AMD CCUMERN OF MECORD ie

fee \ ue wx U8) Conca Georeaan H GS) PEFR SORT RL iS

Cale al CPF eempoeay 0g sen ern AneE CaP mo Pa WETCas ORCA CH HUT A BR CONE AN =

eT en ed Commarare Le: fay

fangec, iS

fog 4

a i

} [+— ny

pad

A

F

—

ey

fed acon ts Fy

7

- = = ~ in

i

a a ae: <

* rs = F) eatpesapat a ‘fr. nha Ua i

7 on Ty ia

(— rh } PROPOSES. OTELEVATION aataenienor -

ASS emt ower nw wy

= f

PROTOTYPE

2124 (U.S,) g

CITY, STATE

ag To

jz

—

rs EXTERIOR 5,

iJ

ty GENERAL NOTES SYMBOL LEGEND ELEVATIONS Fa

i 7 waa co

Sarre nerrmeNce

ae

amen te pate tts mt

_

as rary ree — tae is

ier DEC 2001 hia

/T* SECTION DETAIL & TYPICAL —s tomnine iB

aay ser oer EIFS REVEAL ax AS i

Virus-free.www.avast.com

2. Revise the connection note to the following: “MCWA to excavate and install 2” PE service off 8-inch PVCO water

main with the curb stop located on the eastern ROW line of Hard Road. MCWA to perform permanent

restorations for a quoted amount to the owner.”

3. Include the following details, see attached: .

a. DME 18 - 2” Water Service |

b. DME 27 - 2” Water Service Notes

4. Call out the existing water main as 8” PVCO main, see the attached GIS Mapping.

5. Show the abandoned watermain as abandoned 8” Ct main, see the attached GIS Mapping.

6. Show the existing frontage easement on the Utility Plan filed under Liber 11428 Page 1.

7. Callout the address of Taco Bell (925 Hard Rd) on the property.

8. Show the proposed mechanical room with meter and backflow location labeled.

9. Show the foot print of the mechanical room.

10. Include a signature line for MCWA.

11. MCWA will require a backflow application prior to approving the Utility Plan, we will require the following:

a. Engineer’s Report (see attached).

b. DOH-347 Form (see attached).

c. Plan/Elevation View of meter and RPZ.

12. The Owner can install PE on the private portion if they prefer instead of Copper as PE is typically cheaper.

13. This location is in 610 zone the low water level in the tank {LWL) is

590. The elevation over the water main is

~414’. Hydraulic grade calc. is (590 — 414’) x 0.433psi/ft. = ~76 psi in the main. You can adjust the elevation over

the main based on the tap location.

Thank you,

Chelsea M. Strachan, Engineer Technician

MCWA

Engineering Department

(585) 442-2001 ext. 277

Monroe County Water Authority |]

n08

From

bsteenburghpe@gmail.com <bsteenburghpe@gmail.com>

Sent

Wednesday, December 13, 2023 10:24 AM

To

Chelsea Strachan <Chelsea.Strachan@MCWA.com>

Subject

Webster Popeyes

CAUTION

This email originated from outside your organization. Exercise caution when opening attachments or clicking

links, especially from unknown senders.

Chelsea,

Thank you for the return call yesterday. Please see attached the proposed plans for the Popeyes in

Webster. Please feel free to reach out if you have any questions.

Brett Steenburgh PE

Brett L. Steenburgh PE PLLC

2832 Rosendale Road

Niskayuna, NY 12309

bsteenburghpe@qmail.com

Mobile Phone

(518) 365-0675

To

bsteenburghpe@gmail.com

Subject

RE: Webster Popeyes

[“

.Ay apologies, | forgot to attach the GIS mapping, see attached. Also, see the attached document for the frontage

easement.

Thank you,

Chelsea M. Strachan, Engineer Technician

MCWA

Engineering Department

(585) 442-2001 ext. 277

Monroe County Water Authority

n0e

From

bsteenburghpe@gmail.com <bsteenburghpe@gmail.com>

Sent

Friday, December 15, 2023 7:26 AM

To

Chelsea Strachan <Chelsea. Strachan@MCWA.com>

Subject

RE: Webster Popeyes

CAUTION

This email originated from outside your organization. Exercise caution when opening attachments or clicking

links, especially from unknown senders.

chelsea,

| did not see the GIS map attached showing the Cl Main. Could you send. Also do you happen to have a map

or the deed that shows the existing frontage easement?

Thank you

Brett Steenburgh PE

Brett L. Steenburgh PE PLLC

2832 Rosendale Road

Niskayuna, NY 12309

bsteenburqhpe@qmail.com

Mobile Phone

(518) 365-0675

From

Chelsea Strachan <Chelsea.Strachan@MCWA.com>

Sent

Wednesday, December 13, 2023 1:19 PM

To

bsteenburghpe@gmail.com

Subject

RE: Webster Popeyes

Brian,

[tak for sending over the plan set, | also have some review comments for the new 2” water service:

1. Please fill out the attached Proposed Project Data Sheet.

To

bsteenburghpe@gmail.com

Subject

RE: Requested Flow Data - Hard Rd (WEB)

Brett,

See the attached Simulated Flow Data & Vicinity Map per your request.

Will this location be installing a fire service?

Thank you,

Chelsea M. Strachan, Engineer Technician

MCWA

Engineering Department

(585) 442-2001 ext. 277

Monroe County Water Authority

008

From

bsteenburghpe@gmail.com <bsteenburghpe@gmail.com>

Sent

Wednesday, February 21, 2024 4:19 PM

To

Chelsea Strachan <Chelsea,Strachan@MCWA.com>

Subject

RE: Webster Popeyes

CAUTION

This email originated from outside your organization. Exercise caution when opening attachments or clicking

links, especially from unknown senders.

Chelsea,

| provided the information regarding the pressure zone and tank elevations for this project; however, MRB the

town designated engineer has taken exception to it and wants a flow test (see their comment below)

2. Provide the results of fire flow test at the nearest hydrant along with the static and residual pressure. This

information shalt be obtained from the MCWA. The information previously provided regarding the pressure

zone and the elevation of the storage tank is not acceptable.

Is this something you can provide?

Thank you for all your help!

Brett Steenburgh PE

Brett L. Steenburgh PE PLLC

2832 Rosendale Road

Niskayuna, NY 12309

bsteenburghpe@gqmail.com

Mobile Phone

(518) 365-0675

From

Chelsea Strachan <Chelsea. Strachan@MCWA.com>

Sent

Friday, December 15, 2023 7:43 AM

bsteenburghpe@gmail.com

rom: bsteenburghpe@gmail.com

[ we Thursday, February 22, 2024 9:25 AM

+02 ‘Josh Artuso'

Subject

FW: Requested Flow Data - Hard Rd (WEB)

Attachments

RE: Requested Flow Data - Hard Rd (WEB)

Josh,

(In the latest comment letter from MRB8 has requested again that | get hydrant flow data from MCWA. | have

requested this a couple of times and they have sent me the theoretical low flow values. See their responses

below and the attached email. | am not sure how to proceed on this comment, but in my experience low

water level tank heights and a good hydraulic mode! typically accurately represents a worst case scenario for

low flow in a water system. Can you run this by MRB?

Thank you.

Brett Steenburgh PE

Brett L. Steenburgh PE PLLC

2832 Rosendale Road

Niskayuna, NY 12309

| steenburqghpe@qmail.com

Mobile Phone

(518) 365-0675

From

Chelsea Strachan <Chelsea.Strachan@MCWA.com>

Sent

Thursday, February 22, 2024 9:04 AM

To

bsteenburghpe@gmail.com

Subject

RE: Requested Fiow Data - Hard Rd (WEB)

Brett,

MCWA is confident this data represents our system accurately and is commonly given out to engineers for hydraulic

calculations.

Thank you,

Chelsea M. Strachan, Engineer Technician

MCWA

Engineering Department

(585) 442-2001 ext. 277

Monroe County Water Authority

nOoB

= Chelsea Strachan <Chelsea.Strachan@MCWA.com>

Sent

Thursday, February 22, 2024 8:58 AM

a reap rn ot en

Sta

£10: > 30n ae Sheen Shave i \e hs

inte ity? iMyerenn hi a\ 3 } 4 7 ;

*

Fs os eS

4 2 8 NL seus =

relat e561

9r6i ort oa noo",

ery, a oa Cre oni

a Sa fl

S794 -,005 cn Doe Leer

166 x ell r0Ger Tot

on +96

or OM partes ng03934 4 oS 3W0 wIIve rG67 67 ~ 200 fd AoA

woukimy sO +H fosto 610% — Sie NwuB THD OROL SSP mle pronkend

OW ON} O3Aa_0 Wag40 OG LL9 g sees 8

eestor ‘ad +7

= ane! - NHOda99e at

aesPelé _086 au Mvigd_ BO 3ONVA 2V0 Le

held mm as Gv0e I3Gr 795 =

agg | ANTS P00 J qncerl S.NH00939h 91* 1a 90ha AAI

; | | | S20 20557 CyOn Gav ae

1S341S¥] cRNA} 02

"1930 29MGd % Yt NMOL ! ,

| ae

7

(ef Ta 153 coor fPs FA

aera! CIZOEL f E] sates 3a i wee

. . (a AQIS oogs 99 Fé .

PD ye 7ia0er wiSNIS C2H) NYASSOHD GevHONs | SA nCcTaere e

= LKWEAYS de 40 sTiavis eva ST HOA

io) 5 * sr20e1 MOH ¢479 128 ‘ pale anova Syaava 30M

j 4, Sereblf 1 wagucny? LNwenWISTe OCCZ Bavnds €3.3834 HPO soay | 6088

TO da ce :

j em x Shay OA6 snuctt | At E ae

ass 30¥q sess 9167 franco) 3 . Wi¥id UaSESM 3 ' i

WBISBIM 9 MOL Asem ns eo ur, by a

JAGR ISE) 1M TA ‘7 Fe label on f) ADK

4 tse 986 ;

CIeMORDAV Ia MAY NIA —_ SNIM, b39H par *was Bn0d 2.4

* al20F |

Sowevs |

aan ena FWwsTICHm 8.78

iS¥7 HL OL Mave ONY rs

are wieaos OL gavegs P] | TN yard ;

Jue wkSa3K if i :

7 swwhes Sa =

i . :

ieee al FE n

20 N4QNI NWA L fs oral faa

1202 Nw Ey T * he

AeVHA) SAO HOt ~ ia

| AGG.

og

avn Ged *

SEN HSE IM det Jove 9609 5307 =

TOSS¥ Orta Ca! ———--

or CH 1 S505 LNONWAG I Od ¢|

TOSTO ALOE (s E

OM ONT O9h0 ‘

| sa [AR :

sroz wie

0661 (GR \ ests

cH -

°¢ A fy

Vv

os Ed

AgJS AOU ALE fs ty “GE Gov

beg Sepa sz6 .

wed NAO u¥EIMS AHIV

2 ON INJAIS) Or OM SEO 8102 ON INF

Vo3o¥q Gert waar LNINBDVIddy AM

1 on aber}

1 Fo Goer Bee

Ange) WGLSQ)M eM

;

Computer Simulated Fire Flow Test/Supply Curve

Location

964 Ridge Rd

Town of Webster

Main

8-inch

Elevation

433'

Pressure Zone

610

Supply Curve

Qa Psi A

0 88.5 204.4

4000 75.6 174.6

8000 51.3 118.5

12000 21.1 48.7

Supply Curve At 964 Ridge Rd (on Hard Rd)

Town of Webster

100

90

80

70

60

50

40

30 |

Pressure (psi)

10

0 2000 4000 6000 8000 10000 12000 14000

Flow (gpm)

The pressure and flow data provided herein represents a computer simulated average

estimated value at this location in the distribution system from known and/or estimated

system variables. The flow vatues indicated by the supply curve may vary greatly

depending on demands, operational parameters, system configurations, subsequent

modifications and other related criteria.

The building drain is a cleanout and has been labeled accordingly.

b. Does that black dot indicate a cleanout for the lateral? If so

then it should say on the plans “Cleanout”.

The dot has been labeled as a cleanout.

9, Plans show Ajr testing and Mandrel detailtesting. Where was

this to be completed?

The location of the what is to be air and mandrel tested has been added

fo the notes on sheet C-3

10. The Town Sewer Department will televise during C of O inspection.

This note has been added to sheet C-3

11, Provide a note that any floor drains in the kitchen must be tied into

the lateral going to Grease Trap.

This note has been added io sheet C-3

If you have any questions or require additional information please do not

hesitate to call.

Sincerely

Brett Ol enenseerio

au *ficen! ne i" gees,

Steen bur h Pav Rea Seance onus

g Date. 202407 7308 7531 S00"

Brett L. Steenburgh, P.E.

President

—_—s

ee |

properties are required to provide sidewalks or provide funds for the

equivalent length of sidewalk.

The applicant will provide the requested letter of credit. Anote has been

added to the site plan that the letter of credit is required prior to a

certificate of occupancy.

Provide a revised signage plan that eliminates the “Famous Louisiana

Chicken” on the south elevation and eliminates the “Love that Chicken"

on the north elevation. Signage for “Popeyes” is acceptable on the

north, south and east face of the building, which is in keeping with the

adjacent businesses (Taco Bell and Dairy Queen.

We have shown on the conceptual elevations that the signs will be

removed, Once an architect is chosen for this building they modify the

elevations submitted to the building department.

5. Review the neon chicken on the east face of the building with the

Planning Board.

Although the applicant is happy to work with the town as much as

possible, the corporate office has certain brand designs that they need

to comply with. That being said we would ask that the this sign be

permitted.

6. Provide provisions for additional “banked parking spaces” if necessary.

The banked parking spaces have been added fo the plans.

7. Page C-3: Pian calls for 6" SDR-26 PVC, that all needs to be changed

to 6" SDR-21PVC.

This has been modified.

8. Page C-3: Need details on how they plan to tie into the existing

manhole out front- inside drop or coming in just above ex invert-

depends on elevation.

The type of tie and a reference to the detail have been added.

9. Page C-3 plan states PROPOSED BUILDING DRAIN with a line and

arrow pointing to a black dot:

a. Please define what Proposed building drain is. Sanitary

laterat or other?

Brett L. Steenburgh, P.E., PLLC

2832 Rosendale Road

Niskayuna, NY 12309

(518) 365-0675

February 23, 2024

Mr. Josh Artuso

RECEIVED

Director of Community Development FEB 23 200%

Town of Webster TOWN OF WESTER

1000 Ridge Road PI OF COMMUNITY DEVEL OP HEw

Webster, NY 14580

Re

Popeyes Restaurant — 929 Hard Road

Dear Mr. Artuso:

Please find attached the revised site plans and the conceptual building

elevations. The plans have been updated as per the comments provided

by MRB Group dated February 20, 2024. Based upon those comments we

offer the following responses:

l.

Review the Total Area of Disturbance and revise accordingly. It appears

that the entire site is being disturbed during construction, which is more

than the 36,000 SF indicated on Sheet C-6, Note

8. Due to the size of

the parcel, include the total area as disturbed.

We have increased the area of disturbance to 45,500 sf. to include most

of the parcel. However, the existing asphalt service road bisecting the

rear, the property on the west side of the service road and the existing

bio-retention basin have been left out of the area calculation as they

will be no ground disturbance in those areas,

Provide the results of fire flow test at the nearest hydrant along with the

static and residual pressure. This information shall be obtained from the

MCWA.

The information previously provided regarding the pressure

zone and the elevation of the storage tank is not acceptable.

We have reached out to MCWA again io obtain this information. They

have informed me that it is their opinion that the computer model is

accurate to the existing conditions and that there is no need to perform

a field test. They did provide a graph of the anticipated residual

pressures during various flow conditions. | have attached their emails

and graph to this letter.

Provide sidewalk along Hard Road per Town Code. In lieu of providing a

sidewalk in front of the property, provide the equivalent length of public

sidewalk in the letter of credit to the Town of Webster. Commercial

CIVIL ENGINEERING

ENVIRONMENTAL ENGINEERING

STRUCTURAL ENGINEERING

;

time to review them but basically most of them were minor technical issues. (SEE BELOW

LIST OF COMMENTS)

1. Review the Total Area of Disturbance and revise accordingly. It appears that the entire

site is being disturbed during construction, which is more than the 36,000 SF

indicated on Sheet C-6, Note

8. Due to the size of the parcel, include the total area

as disturbed.

We have increased the area of disturbance to 45,500 sf to include most of the parcel.

However, the existing asphalt service road bisecting the rear, the property on the west

side of the service road and the existing bio-retention basin have been left out of the

area calculation as they will be no ground disturbance in those areas.

Provide the results of fire flow test at the nearest hydrant along with the static and

residual pressure. This information shall be obtained from the MCWA. The

information previously provided regarding the pressure zone and the elevation of the

storage tank is not acceptable. We have reached out to MCWA again to obtain

this information. They have informed me that it is their opinion that the

computer model is accurate to the existing conditions and that there is no need

to perform a field test. They did provide a graph of the anticipated residual

pressures during various flow conditions. I have attached their emails and

graph to this letter.

Provide sidewalk along Hard Road per Town Code. In lieu of providing a sidewalk in

front of the property, provide the equivalent length of public sidewalk in the letter of

credit to the Town of Webster. Commercial Properties are required to provide

sidewalks or provide funds for the equivalent length of sidewalk. The applicant

will provide the requested letter of credit. A note has been added to the site plan

that the letter of credit 1s required prior to a certificate of occupancy.

Provide a revised signage plan that eliminates the “Famous Louisiana Chicken” on

the south elevation and eliminates the “Love that Chicken” on the north elevation.

Signage for “Popeyes” is acceptable on the north, south and east face of the building,

which is in keeping with the adjacent businesses (Taco Bell and Dairy Queen. We

have shown on the conceptual elevations that the signs will be removed. Once

an architect is chosen for this building, they modify the elevations submitted

to the building department.

Review the neon chicken on the east face of the building with the Planning Board.

Although the applicant is happy to work with the town as much as possible,

the corporate office has certain brand designs that they need to comply with,

That being said we would ask that this sign be permitted.

Provide provisions for additional “banked parking spaces” if necessary. The banked

parking spaces have been added to the plans.

Pg. 21 March 5, 2024 Planning Meeting

7, Page C-3: Plan calls for 6" SDR-26 PVC, that all needs to be changed to 6" SDR-

21PVC. This has been modified.

8. Page C-3: Need details on how they plan to tie into the existing manhole out

front- inside drop or coming in just above ex invert- depends on elevation.

The type of tie and a reference to the detai! have been added.

9. Page C-3 plan states PROPOSED BUILDING DRAIN with a line and arrow

pointing to a black dot:

ror Please define what Proposed building drain is. Sanitary lateral or other? The

building drain is a cleanout and has been labeled accordingly.

b. Does that black dot indicate a clean out for the lateral? If so then it should say on

the plans “Cleanout”. The dot has been labeled as a cleanout.

9. Plans show Air testing and Mandrel detail testing. Where was this to be

completed? The location of the what is to be air and mandrel tested has been

added to the notes on sheet C-3

10. The Town Sewer Department will televise during C of O inspection.

This note has been added to sheet C-3

]1. Provide a note that any floor drains in the kitchen must be tied into the lateral

going to Grease Trap. This note has been added to sheet C-3

Brett Steenburgh

The one comment we were unable to address is, he requested that we get a fire flow

test from MCWA, and this would be the second time we requested the information. What MC has

provided me with is an interpretation based on a model of the water height in their tank and what the

flow rates would be for the hydrant in that area. Really looking at their data, they have more than enough

pressure to sustain any fire flow or any necessary fire flow conditions for the hydrants there based on that

and when I responded back to her this last time, she said you can assume that, that information is accurate,

and we don’t do flow test and we won’t be doing a flow test out there so but other than that [ believe we

have address everything else. We have added a note to the plan that the applicant provide a letter of credit

for the cost of sidewalk along the frontage since that is required as part of the zoning requirements. I

know there were some discussions here last time if we were providing sidewalks somewhere else and

how would we handle that because there are no sidewalks in that area. The applicant has agreed to provide

a letter of credit, it’s a 100.... 1 forget how many feet of sidewalk along the frontage line of 118 feet, 119

feet of Hard Road so that will be provided as part of the application.

There were a couple of signs and I think this board had raised a concern regarding the removal of the

signs of “LOVE THAT CHICKEN” and “LOUISIANA FAMOUS CHICKEN” and the applicant has

agreed to remove those signs and I did note that on the conceptual elevations and once we get site plan

approvals, we will get with the architect to do the final plans and it will be reflected in the plans that the

Building Department gets to issue a building permit. And there was a raised question about the neon

chicken on the east face of the building. We would like to ask that, that remain. The applicant,

Pg. 22 March 5, 2024 Planning Meeting

unfortunately, being a franchisee is kind of under some limitations with these changes that need to go

back to corporate, because corporate needs a certain branding and they requested that it remain. I did go

around, and McDonalds has 2-3 of the golden arches around their building; Colonel Sanders is pretty

apparent on Kentucky Fried Chicken, and this is something that is typical in their branding for Popeyes

and we respectfully ask that the board allow that to be constructed as designed and we went over the

banked parking. The rest of the changes were mostly minor changes, changing the pipe from SRS 26.1

which we have done; the manhole connection for sanitary sewer; adding labels to the clean outs; and

some of the sanitary testing which we be satisfactory addressed.

So, I think from an engineer review and technical review standpoint, I think we should be in good shape,

and I would be happy to answer any questions that the board may have at this time.

Mark Giardina

With regards to sign, are you talking about the chicken itself?

Brett Steenburgh

Yes

Mark Giardina

What about the sign next to it that spells the word CHICKEN because that was one of the

issues the last time they were here.

Anthony Casciani

Yes

Mark Giardina

Is that going or is that staying?

Brett Steenburgh

Which one spells chicken? I am not sure which one.

Anthony Casciani

When you are looking at the front elevation, when you are looking at Popeyes, it is to

the left of that. In the drive thru lane.

Brett Steenburgh

Looked at the plan and said no, that will not be there. It is actually a median island that

goes between the pass by lane and the drive thru lane. We found through experience that it just causes

problems with the snow blowing. It might work better in the south where they don’t get any snow but

that will not be included on the site plan.

Anthony Casciani

1 don’t really think the rooster or the chicken or whatever it is there is really all that

big. It is their trademark; it is not really anything obnoxious or anything like that.

Dave Malia

INAUDIBLE

Anthony Casciant

On the sign where you took off that chicken, what are those windows there, |

questioned that.

Brett Steenburgh

Those are actually just decorative shutters is all they are. That is actually the freezer

and rather making it look like a freezer, they want to make it look like it’s part of the building, integrate

it. They have gone through a couple different designs, but this is what they have gone with.

Anthony Casciani

Now the bio-retention in the front, what was the outcome of all that?

Pg. 23 March 5, 2024 Planning Meeting

Brett Steenburgh

We did an analysis on the bio-retention out front and what we found is it was designed

initially for an amount of impervious area. When Taco Bell was constructed, they constructed a

substantial portion of bio retention base and it had a significantly less impervious area then what was

assumed on that parcel and when we combine the two areas back through the bio-retention design

calculations, there is a lot of impervious area that is proposed for both Popeyes and the existing Taco

Bell. It has the bio-retention base, it has adequate capacity to treat the storm water INAUDIABLE for

the storm water for those locations.

Anthony Casciani

Do you have landscaping?

Brett Steenburgh

We have additional landscaping out front as you had requested just to mimic the

existing bioretention landscaping as it goes down in front of the site.

Anthony Casciani

What else...lighting is down Jit?

Brett Steenburgh

Everything is down lit. We did provide the town with a diagram with the lighting levels

basically not going over property lines and maintaining the recommended limits.

Anthony Casciani

I have one finally thing, your dumpster enclosure.

Brett Steenburgh

That is masonry. It matches the building very well. It looks just like the building

finishes, and they designed it to basically look like.......... because many times, we tuck in right in behind

the building and it’s detached from the building, so we want it to look like it is part of the design rather

than something that was added on after.

John Kosel

There is 24 parking spaces, how many employees will you have at one time?

Brett Steenburgh

Typically, the staff is about 8 employees. We have 24 seats in the restaurant. My rule

of thumb is one space per three seats plus one for each employee for the max shift and that would put you

at about 16 spaces and we are at 24 spaces which exceeds that a little bit which I think the Zoning Board

of Appeals was happy to see that.

Anthony Casciant

We did get a letter from the Zoning Board in regard to the banking space and I really

don’t have a problem with that. We have done that with other projects where it just comes along, and I

can’t even recall INAUDIBLE convert to parking....

Brett Steenburgh

And I will be honest with you, I have done these buildings with as little as 18 parking

spaces, and I have not see a problem as of yet. Like I said, the fast-food customer seems to be going more

towards....that is why we have a double drive thru because it seems to be going more thru that drive thru

then parking. People are just living their lives a little faster then they use to.

John Kosel

Do you have tables outside so that people can eat outside.

Brett Steenburgh

We do not, no.

Anthony Casciani

Paul are you guys all set with this? Most of the comments are ENGINEER comments.

Pg. 24 March 5, 2024 Planning Meeting

Paul Chatfield

It is just the one comment here for fire flow. I provided with a recommended note for the

approval.

Brett Steenburgh

If it is something INAUDIBLE this board. ..] have the equipment I just need somebody

to open the hydrant. I can drive up from Albany and take care of it. I feel confident that their data is

probably accurate enough, but we can.

Paul Chatfield

The water authority will not allow anyone from the outside (BOTH PARTIES

SPEAKING AT THE SAME TIME)

Brett Steenburgh

(BOTH PARTIES SPEAKING AT THE SAME TIME)

Paul Chatfield

But I have talked to water authority and the curve that was provided to you was inaccurate.

Brett Steenburgh

She sent me a new curve today.

Paul Chatfield

So, we would like a fire flow test and signature and just put that on the approval.

(BOTH PARTIES SPEAKING AT THE SAME TIME)

Brett Steenburgh

INAUDIBLE they will do a fire flow test?

Paul Chatfield

Just let them know it was a requirement. I will send them an email tomorrow and let them

know it was a condition.

Anthony Casciant

It will be part of Engineering approvals.

Paul Chatfield

Just have it added to the mylar.

Derek Anderson

(NOT SPEAKING LOUD ENOUGH) INAUDIBLE I know the lots to the north had

the two driveways tied into this parcel but is there actually an access agreement through the parking lot?

Brett Steenburgh

Yes. It is actually under one ownership. They are all land leases. It is a division of

Widewaters that INAUDIBLE parcels, so they have permission and that is why they have access

INAUDIBLE.

Dave Malta

(NOT SPEAKING LOUD ENOUGH) I think that was part of the approval.

Anthony Casciani

The road was stubbed there, wasn’t it?

Brett Steenburgh

It actually makes for a nice layout.

Anthony Casciani

Ok, I think we addressed it all. We went through the minutes and everything that

INAUDIBLE he already brought up and addressed them all. Is there anyone wishing to speak for or

against this application? Not seeing anyone, we will close the public portion and bring it back to the

board.

Pg. 25 March 5, 2024 Planning Meeting

Derek Anderson:

MOTION FOR AN UNLISTED ACTIGN - NEGATIVE DECLARATION

The Town of Webster Planning Board considered the request by applicant, Liberty Restaurant

Development to construct a 2,532 SF restaurant with double drive through lanes located at 925

Hard Road on a 1.19-acre parcel having SBL# 079.1 1-1-12.12.

The Planning Board determines that the proposed action is an Unlisted Action.

The Planning Board determined that the action is subject to a single agency review pursuant to

Part 617.6(b)(4) of SEQR and that it is the most appropriate agency for making the determination

of significance. The Planning Board therefore designates itself lead agency for the proposed

action.

The Planning Board has given consideration to the criteria for determining significance as set

forth in Section 617.7(c)(1) of SEQR, and has

|. considered the information contained in the Short Environmental Assessment Form Part

| dated January 17, 2024,

2. considered public comments directed to the Planning Board during the Public Hearing on

March 5, 2024, and

3. completed Parts 2 and 3 of the Environmental Assessment Form.

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT: RESOLVED that the TOWN OF WEBSTER PLANNING

BOARD hereby determines that the proposed project will not have a significant adverse effect on

the environment for the reasons set forth in the attached Notice of Determination of Non-

Significance; be it further,

RESOLVED that the TOWN OF WEBSTER PLANNING BOARD is authorized to take all

actions reasonable and necessary to file the Negative Declaration and discharge the TOWN OF

WEBSTER PLANNING BOARD’S responsibility as lead agency for this action, be it further,

RESOLVED that the TOWN OF WEBSTER PLANNING BOARD, based on the information

and analysis above, the referenced supporting documentation, and discussions of the action by

the TOWN OF WEBSTER PLANNING BOARD as documented by the Minutes for this

meeting, that the proposed action WILL NOT result in any significant environmental impacts, be

it further,

RESOLVED that the TOWN OF WEBSTER PLANNING BOARD, therefore makes a

DETERMINATION OF NON-SIGNIFICANCE, be it further,

RESOLVED, that the TOWN OF WEBSTER PLANNING BOARD, based on the above reasons

issues a NEGATIVE DECLARATION as evidence of its determination.

Pg. 26 March 5, 2024 Planning Meeting

f NOTICE OF DETERMINATION OF NON-SIGNIFICANCE

The Planning Board has reasonably concluded the following results for the proposed action,

when compared against the criteria in Section 617.7(c):

1. The proposed action will not have a substantial adverse change in air quality since it does

not include a regulated emission source.

2. The proposed action will not have a substantial adverse change in ground or surface

water quality or quantity since the proposed action does not include on site wells or septic

systems.

3. The proposed action will not have a substantial impact on water supply since it will

connect to the public water system which has adequate capacity to supply the action.

4. The proposed action will not have a substantial impact on the sanitary sewer system since

it will connect to the public sewer system which has adequate capacity to convey

wastewater from the site.

5. The proposed action will not have a substantial adverse change in potential for erosion,

flooding, leaching or drainage problems. Construction practices will conform to accepted

storm water management and controls.

6. The proposed action will not have a substantial adverse change in existing solid waste

production since the proposed action does not substantially increase solid waste

producing activities on the site when compared to the similar establishments.

7. The proposed action will not have a substantial adverse change in existing noise, odor or

light since the structures are consistent with the character of the surrounding area and

includes downward directed exterior lighting. A temporary increase in noise levels

consistent with normal construction activities is anticipated during construction.

8. The proposed action will not have a substantial adverse change, or cumulative change in

traffic since the proposed action provides internal traffic control that prevents stacking on

public thoroughfares.

9. The proposed action will not have a substantial adverse impact on the criteria listed under

Section 617.7(c)(1)Gi) of SEQR because no habitats or threatened or endangered species

were identified on or contiguous to the proposed site.

10. The proposed action is not located in an area designated as a Critical Environmental Area

by the Town of Webster or New York State pursuant to subdivision 617.14(g) of SEQR.

11. The proposed action is not in material conflict with the Town of Webster 2008

Comprehensive Plan.

12. The proposed action will not create an impairment of the criteria listed under Section

617.7(c)(1)(v) of SEQR since the action is not located in or adjacent to the listed

resources and is in character with the surrounding community.

13. The action will not result in a major change in the type or use of energy since the action

does not require an upgrade to the electrical distribution system.

14. The action will not create a hazard to human health since it does not contain nor is it

located adjacent to existing sources of hazardous substances or contaminants. The

project includes engineering controls that help prevent the release of cleaning solutions

off the site.

[_ Pg. 27 March 5, 2024 Planning Meeting

;

15, The action will not create a substantial change in use of the land since it consistent with

the types of structures already located in the overall commercial development. The

action is consistent with the existing community character, and the Town of Webster

2008 Comprehensive Plan.

16. The action will not attract a large number of people for more than a few days when

compared to taking no action since the action since the action, by its design, is a drive

through structure with limited parking.

17. The action will not create a cumulative impact on the environment as listed under

617.7(c)(1)(x), (x1), and (xii) of SEQR.

RESOLUTION 24-0011

Derek Anderson made a motion for an UNLISTED

ACTION which was seconded by Derek Meixell.

VOTE:

Mr. Anderson AYE

Mr. Kosel AYE

Mr. Malta AYE

Mr. Meixell AYE

Mr. Casciani AYE

Mr. Giardina AYE

Mrs. Maltman AYE

RESOLUTION 24-0012 Dave Malta (NOT SPEAKING LOUD ENOUGH)

PRELIMINARY APPROVAL

Subject to PRC comments

Subject to MCWA comments.

PWNS

Town of Webster.

made a motion for PRELIMINARY APPROVAL

Located directly south of 925 Hard Road. Applicant

Liberty Restaurant Development is requesting

PRELIMINARY / FINAL SITE PLAN

APPROVAL (

PUBLIC HEARING

) associated

with the construction of a 2,532 SF restaurant with

double drive through lanes on a 1.19-acre parcel

having SBL# 079.1 1-1-12.12 located in an HC High

Intensity Commercial District under Sections 269-11

and 350-19 of the Code of the Town of Webster

which was seconded by Mark Giardina.

Subject to the determination of the ZBA for requested variances.

All the improvements shall be constructed according to the specification of the

Pg. 28 March 5, 2024 Planning Meeting

5. All roadway construction to be in accordance with the specification and

regulations set forth by the Town of Webster.

All sitework is to be in compliance with the standards of the Town of Webster.

Comply with all requirements of any State, County, or Town agency.

mS

8. Address drainage, lighting, signage, landscaping, buffering, berming, and snow

storage

9. Approvals are subject to Drawing No:

Dated

OCTOBER 17, 2023

VOTE:

Mr. Anderson AYE

Mr. Kosel AYE

Mr. Malta AYE

Mr. Meixell AYE

Mr. Casciani AYE

Mr. Giardina AYE

Mrs. Maltman AYE

Dave Malta

(NOT SPEAKING LOUD ENOUGH) Should we reference about the signage?

Anthony Casciani

Yes

Dave Malta

(NOT SPEAKING LOUD ENOUGH) Ok, the drawing shows the signage “love

that chicken” is being removed and the INAUDIABLE the other sign is being removed and also

shows a vertical sign that shows “chickens” through the drive thru and that will not be allowed as

well.

John Kosel

Did you say about a letter of credit?

Anthony Casciani

The applicant agreed to post a letter of credit.

RESOLUTION 24-0013

Dave Malta (NOT SPEAKING LOUD ENOUGH)

made a motion for SIGN APPROVAL Located

directly south of 925 Hard Road. Applicant Liberty

Restaurant Development is requesting associated

with the construction of a 2,532 SF restaurant with

double drive through lanes on a 1.19-acre parcel

having SBL# 079.1 1-1-12.12 located in an HC High

Intensity Commercial District under Sections 269-11

and 350-19 of the Code of the Town of Webster

which was seconded by Mark Giardina.

Anthony Casciani

Now before, are there any other signs, entrance, or anything at all?

Pg. 29 March 5, 2024 Planning Meeting

Brett Steenburgh

There will be some directional signs and they are noted on the site plan. You

will see the are labeled, directional signage. Number 13 on key there so they will be in the drive

thru entrance and the entrance and exits just to guide people around the site.

Anthony Casctani

Ok, without looking at them, what do they say? Hopefully it’s not saying

chicken this way or that kind of thing.

Brett Steenburgh

No, it says drive thru and I think they might have....... no, I don’t think they

have anything other than entrance drive thru this way and exit. The only thing is only the back

side of the drive thru exit, it says, “thanks ya’ all” and I don’t know if that is something....on the

backside of the exit ones and I think that is the only thing that is somewhat branding because it is

southern.

VOTE:

Mr. Anderson AYE

Mr. Kosel AYE

Mr. Malta AYE

Mr. Meixell AYE

Mr. Casciani AYE

Mr. Giardina AYE

Mrs. Maltman AYE

RESOLUTION 24-0013 Dave Malta made a motion for FINAL APPROVAL

Located directly south of 925 Hard Road. Applicant Liberty

Restaurant Development is requesting PRELIMINARY /

FINAL SITE PLAN APPROVAL (

PUBLIC HEARING

)

associated with the construction of a 2,532 SF restaurant

with double drive through lanes on a 1.19-acre parcel having

SBL# 079.1 1-1-12.12 located in an HC High Intensity

Commercial District under Sections 269-11 and 350-19 of

the Code of the Town of Webster which was seconded by

Mark Giardina.

FINAL APPROVAL

DAVE MALTA (NOT SPEAKING LOUD ENOUGH)

1. Subject to Project Review Committee comments

2. Subject to Preliminary Approval conditions.

3. Subject to all applicable governmental fees.

4. Subject to Department of Public Works approvals.

5. Significant construction shall occur within one year, as deemed by the Pianning

Board, to expire on March 5, 2025.

6. The conditions of Preliminary and Final approval are depicted on the cover page

of the final designed plans.

Pg. 30 March 5, 2024 Planning Meeting

7. The Engineer for the proposed project shall provide a Letter of Certification

that all proposed work was completed, as per Planning Board resolution of

final approval before a Certificate of Occupancy will be issued.

Anthony Casciani

(NOT SPEAKING LOUD ENOUGH) You might want to put

INAUDIBLE it’s on the plan though, the area in proposed parking if necessary.

Brett Steenburgh

It is on the site plan but if you want to add that, yes.

8. A Letter of Credit to the Town for the project shall include the fee for the

Engineer's final certification inspection of the site.

9. All storm water facilities are to be constructed first

10. Subject to resolution of final approved minutes.

11. Approvals are subject to Drawing No: Dated: OCTOBER 17, 2023

VOTE:

Mr. Anderson AYE

Mr. Kosel AYE

Mr. Malta AYE

Mr. Meixell AYE

Mr. Casciani AYE

Mr. Giardina AYE

Mrs. Maltman AYE

(Mark Giardina_read_the fourth (SKIPPED THIS ONE TO PROCEED WITH NEXT

APPLICATION AND THEN CAME BACK TO THIS ONE AFTER 688 ADMIRALTY WAY)

JULIANNA SALON

Located at 980 Ridge Road. Applicant Ralph Baranes of Skylight Signs is

requesting SIGN APPROVAL associated with the installation of a 34 SF building mounted sign

for a new business within the Webster Plaza on a 17.03-acre parcel having SBL # 079.15-1-3.1

located in an HC High Intensity Commercial District under Section 265-7 A of the Code of the

Town of Webster.

Josh Artuso

There was a mix up with Skylight Signs. They inadvertently thought that tonight’s

meeting was on a different date, and they had a conflict, so they reached out to me this afternoon

and indicated that the salon owner was going to try and make tonight’s meeting which is why we

switched the order of the agenda items. It wasn’t a guarantee, but I think it is safe to say at this

point, that they are not going to be able to make it here tonight.

I did discuss the sign with them, and it does appear to meet all the code requirements. I tried to

ask a couple of questions that | anticipated that the board might ask about a particular sign to get

the verification and I can inform you that basically the sign that it is consistent of a black vinyl

material over the channel letters and they are internally lit with white LED lights so the sign

Pg. 31 March 5, 2024 Planning Meeting

during the day appears as you seen it on screen with black letters and then at night it is internally

lit and the black does shield and it’s not a bright white light that shins out and it does help the

brightness of the white lights but other than that, it meets the code requirements and if they were

not able to make it tonight, they respectfully requested if the board would approve the sign in the

absence of the applicant being present at the time.

Dave Malta

(NOT SPEAKING LOUD ENOUGH) So the white part will be lit and only that

spot just behind the sign INAUDIBLE words, right?

Josh Artuso

No. Each letter is individually lit internally so the raceway that the sign letters are

on will not be lit just the letters themselves. So again, because of the black vinyl that they have

the letters during the day light it will look just like it shows on black lettering and then at night,

just the letters that you see would be internally lit. So, I asked him, will they look white, and he

said they will have a white appearance but it’s not a bright white light shining because of the

black perforated vinyl over it. So, I told him I would relay this information to the board, and I

didn’t make any promises. It is basically up to the board on how they would like to handle this.

Anthony Casciani

Easy way to do that is what we do with a sign being there anyways, just the

figures are going to be lit, that’s it. That’s all, that is all they are proposing. Just make sure that is

all it is.

Dave Malta

I didn’t want to see INAUDIBLE.

Josh Artuso

Right.

Derek Anderson:

RESOLUTION

Town of Webster Planning Board considered the request by Applicant, Ralph Baranes of

Skylight Signs to install a 34 SF building mounted sign for Julianna Salon located at 980 Ridge

Road within the Webster Plaza on a 17.03-acre parcel having SBL # 079.15-1-3.1.

The Planning Board classifies the proposed action to be a Type II Action under Section

617.5(c)(2) of the State Environmental Review (SEQR) Regulations and therefore is not subject

to further review.

RESOLUTION 24-0014 Derek Anderson made a motion for TYPE II

SEQR which was seconded by Derek Meixell.

VOTE:

Mr. Anderson AYE

Mr. Kosel AYE

Mr. Malta AYE

Mr. Meixell AYE

Pg. 32 March 5, 2024 Planning Meeting

Mr. Casciani AYE

Mr. Giardina AYE

Mrs. Maltman AYE

RESOLUTION 24-0015 Dave Malta made a motion for SIGN APPROVAL:

Located at 980 Ridge Road. Applicant Ralph

Baranes of Skylight Signs is requesting SIGN

APPROVAL associated with the installation of a 34

SF building mounted sign for a new business within

the Webster Plaza on a 17.03-acre parcel having SBL

# 079,15-1-3.1 located in an HC High Intensity

Commercial District under Section 265-7 A of the

Code of the Town of Webster which was seconded

by Mark Giardina.

VOTE:

Mr. Anderson AYE

Mr. Kosel AYE

Mr. Malta AYE

Mr. Meixell AYE

Mr. Casciani AYE

Mr. Giardina AYE

Mrs. Maltman AYE

CONDITION:

e With the understanding that when lit at night the only thing that shows is the letters itself

(Mark Giardina read the fifth)

ADMIRALTY WAY POOL HOUSE AND IN-GROUND POOL: Located at 688 Admiralty

Way. Applicant Robert Neufeld is requesting PRELIMINARY/FINAL SITE PLAN

APPROVAL (

PUBLIC HEARING

) associated with the construction of a 565 SF Pool House

(Accessory Structure) on a 0.5l-acre parcel having SBL # 063.13-1-13 located in an WD

Waterfront Development District under Sections 269-11, 350-25 and 350-36 of the Code of the

Town of Webster.

Appearing before the board was Aaron Beyler with BME Associates and I am here representing

the applicant, Robert Neufeld of Neufeld Custom Homes. He is requesting site plan approval for

an in-ground pool and pool house at 688 Admiralty Way. The in-ground pool will be 14 x 36

feet and it will have 565 sf single story pool house accessory structure with private water and

private sanitary extended from the existing house.

We did need a rear setback variance from the Zoning Board to allow the construction of the pool

house...

Pg.

33. March 5, 2024 Planning Meeting

Anthony Casciani

One second, Josh, can you move the screen down a little bit.

Josh Artuso

Yes

Aaron Beyler

So, they did grant me the rear setback variance at our last meeting however, they

only granted 30 feet and the original 25 feet that was requested though. They just thought the

additional 5 feet would be beneficial to the neighbors and INAUIDBLE fit better, and the plans

will be updated to show everything 5 feet closer to the home.

The homeowner has also received approval from their HOA for the construction of the pool and

pool house. If the board has any questions, 1 would be happy to answer them.

Anthony Casciani

Yes, I was over there the other day, and you have an existing paver/patio?

Aaron Beyler

So, what the Zoning Board thought, is take out 5 feet of those existing pavers and

replace it with the concrete INAUDIBLE so in essence they are not losing any patio area.

Anthony Casciani

It’s too bad you have to do that.

Aaron Beyler

Yes, it’s unfortunate but we didn’t see a big deal on it and the Zoning Board really

wanted that INAUDIBLE.

Anthony Casciani

Because you are quite a distance in the back of the proposed pool house

because they are going back and there are trees. In leu of that, is there any possible way you

could change the design without having to tear it up? I think that is a shame to have to do that.

Aaron Beyler

That was my first thought but yes, there are two lamp post INAUDIBLE

Anthony Casciani

I know it. It’s beautiful setup there. What would happen if you took 5 feet off

of that post pool house and instead of that angle, just make it square. You would get your same

square footage but design it differently without having to tear that patio up. | think that is terrible

in my opinion anyways,

Aaron Beyler

Now, what corner are you talking about?

Anthony Casciani

Right there, you see where the pool house is.

Aaron Beyler

Yes

Anthony Casciani

I don’t have the dimension, but I think it was like...

Aaron Beyler

It’s 17 feet at that angled part.

Anthony Casciani

Ok, go down below at the lower part, yes right there.

Pg. 34 March 5, 2024 Planning Meeting

Aaron Beyler

That one is 19 %

Anthony Casciani

So, if you took off 5 feet and you would have 14 feet, do you see what I am

saying. Instead of that angle. It is just a thought; ] was just looking at it.

Aaron Beyler

I do have a quick markup here of the whole thing moved 5 feet if you just want to

look at it.

Anthony Casciani

You do?

Aaron Beyler

I do have the plans marked up because we didn’t get a chance to update the plans.

(THE APPLICANT APPROACHED THE BOARD WITH PLANS THAT WERE MARKED

IN RED) I don’t know how set the homeowner is on that design, we could talk to them and

maybe reconfigure it.

Anthony Casciani

I don’t know if the homeowners would prefer to do something like that.

Aaron Beyler

We have not had any discussions with altering that pool house design. We have

gone by whatever the Zoning Board wanted essentially.

Anthony Casciani

Yes because you have posts out there.

Aaron Beyler

It is unfortunate. After the Zoning Board meeting, we did reach out to the

homeowner just to make sure that was ok, and they were fine with it. I mean they would

probably prefer not to but that is what they needed to do to get the Zoning Board variance.

Anthony Casciani

And that is the design of the pool house they want so.

Aaron Beyler

That is the only print design that INAUDIBLE, and I don’t know if there is

alternative designs that INAUDIBLE.

Anthony Casciani

The exterior is probably going to match the house I would assume?

Aaron Beyler

Yes, and [ don’t actually have samples of the INAUDIBLE, but I am sure it is

going to match.

Anthony Casciani

That’s ok. Any questions?

Dave Malta

I have one question, INAUDIBLE. (EVERYONE TALKING AT ONCE)

It is written, PRELIMINARY FINAL SITE PLAN FOR AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE.

Why are we INAUDIBLE, isn’t this an accessory structure?

Josh Artuso

What is the question?

Pg. 35 March 5, 2024 Planning Meeting

Dave Malta

INAUDIBLE. NOT CLEARLY SPEAKING. ( He was questioning the way the

agenda was written and didn’t understand)

Josh Artuso

Well, they are one in the same.

Dave Malta

Not according to the checklist that I have.

Josh Artuso

I am not quite sure what you mean? We typically advertise that just like that, every

time.

Dave Malta

Well, what I am going to do is give preliminary approval for INAUDIBLE.

Josh Artuso

Right.

Dave Malta

We are not INAUDIBLE

Josh Artuso

Oh, I see, because accessory structures are exempt from the preliminary or from the

concept? We still have to

Dave Malta

INAUDIBLE

Josh Artuso

I don’t think it is really an issue.

Dave Malta

I want to make sure we are doing the right thing. (MR. MALTA APPROACHED

JOSH ARTUSO)

Josh Artuso

So, you are getting hung up on the site plan? Well, they are submitting a site plan.

Anthony Casciani

It’s really a site plan modification because it is not just a structure. You have

a pool involved so it is a site plan.

Dave Malta

INAUDIBLE

Aaron Beyer

Isn't it for 500 sq feet INAUDIBLE and that kind of pushed us into requiring an

approval INAUDIBLE.

Josh Artuso

Correct, yes.

Anthony Casciani

Anybody, any questions? It is a nice area of yard and fits in there. It will

look nice. The building structure that they are proposing is very nice. Ok, you guys are all ok

with it?

Board

YES

Pg. 36 March 5, 2024 Planning Meeting

Anthony Casciani

Anyone wish to speak? I guess not so we will close the public portion of the

meeting.

Derek Anderson:

RESOLUTION

Town of Webster Planning Board considered the request by Applicant, Robert Neufeld to

construct a 504-sf pool and a 565 sf Pool House (Accessory Structure) located at 688 Admiralty

Way on a 0.51-acre parcel having SBL # 063.13-1-13.The Planning Board classifies the

proposed action to be a Type II Action under Section 617.5(c)(12) of the State Environmental

Review (SEQR) Regulations and therefore is not subject to further review.

RESOLUTION 24-0016 Derek Anderson made a motion for TYPE

II SEQR which was seconded by Derek

Meixell.

VOTE:

Mr. Anderson AYE

Mr. Kosel AYE

Mr. Malta AYE

Mr. Meixell AYE

Mr. Casciani AYE

Mr. Giardina AYE

Mrs. Maltman AYE

RESOLUTION 24-0017 Dave Malta made a _ motion for

PRELIMINARY APPROVAL Located at

688 Admiralty Way. Applicant Robert

Neufeld is requesting

PRELIMINARY/FINAL SITE PLAN

APPROVAL (

PUBLIC HEARING

)

associated with the construction of a 565 SF

Pool House (Accessory Structure) on a 0.51-

acre parcel having SBL # 063.13-1-13

located in an WD Waterfront Development

District under Sections 269-11, 350-25 and

350-36 of the Code of the Town of Webster

of Webster which was seconded by John

Kosel.

Pg. 37 March 5, 2024 Planning Meeting

PRELIMINARY APPROVAL

1. Subject to PRC comments

2. Subject to Letter of Credit posted with the Town of Webster.

3. Subject to the determination of the ZBA for requested variances.

4. All the improvements shall be constructed according to the specification of the

Town of Webster.

5. All sitework is to be in compliance with the standards of the Town of Webster.

6. Comply with all requirements of any State, County, or Town agency.

7. Approvals are subject to Drawing No: Dated:

8. Proceed to Final approval.

VOTE:

Mr. Anderson AYE

Mr. Kosel AYE

Mr. Malta AYE

Mr. Meixell AYE

Mr. Casciani AYE

Mr. Giardina AYE

Mrs. Maltman AYE

RESOLUTION 24-0018 Dave Malta made

APPROVAL Located at 688 Admiralty Way.

Applicant Robert Neufeld is requesting

PRELIMINARY/FINAL SITE PLAN

APPROVAL (

PUBLIC HEARING

) associated

with the construction of a 565 SF Pool House

(Accessory Structure) on a 0.5l-acre parcel having

SBL # 063.13-1-13 located in an WD Waterfront

Development District under Sections 269-11, 350-25

and 350-36 of the Code of the Town of Webster of

Webster which was seconded by Derek Meixell.

FINAL APPROVAL

1. Subject to Project Review Committee comments

2. Subject to Preliminary Approval conditions.

3. Subject to all applicable governmental fees.

4. Subject to Department of Public Works approvals.

5. Significant construction shall occur within one year, as deemed by the

Planning Board, to expire on March 5, 2025,

6. The conditions of Preliminary and Final approval are depicted on the cover page

of the final designed plans.

Pg. 38 March 5, 2024 Planning Meeting

7. Approvals are subject to Drawing No: Dated: AS PRESENTED, SUBJECT TO

THE APPLICANT SHOWING A REVISED DRAWING WITH THE ENTIRE

STRUCTURE MOVED 5 FEET CLOSER TO THE HOUSE.

VOTE:

Mr. Anderson AYE

Mr. Kosel AYE

Mr. Malta AYE

Mr. Meixell AYE

Mr. Casciani AYE

Mr. Giardina AYE

Mrs. Maltman AYE

(Mark Giardina read the fifth)

TO THE CORE

Located at 1028 Ridge Road, Ste.

125. Applicant Erin Ferrente is requesting

SIGN APPROVAL associated with the installation of a 31.5 SF building mounted facade sign to

reflect a business within the Town Centre Plaza on a 9.1-acre parcel having SBL # 079.12-1-20

located in an HC High Intensity Commercial District under Section 265-7 A of the Code of the

Town of Webster.

Appearing before the board was Erin Ferrente. We are actually in the plaza right now and we are

just moving to a bigger space because we are expanding. We have been there since October

2021, and we are moving into this space and just need a bigger sign because our space is a lot

bigger. You can see us towards the back of the plaza.

Anthony Casciani

When you go in there, it’s like a lobby in there.

Erin Ferrente

No, that is not the space that you are thinking of. It is the one right next to Cold

Stone and it use to be a clothing store 21 years ago so to answer your question, yes, it will be our

lobby.

Anthony Casciani

Now, is that sign lit?

Erin Ferrente

Yes, it will be lit. All the letters individually and then the black underneath is like

a pill box.

Anthony Casciani

So just the letters are lit?

Erin Ferrente

Yes, and then the pill box underneath is [it to.

Anthony Casciani

Size is ok Josh?

Pg. 39 March 5, 2024 Planning Meeting

Josh Artuso

Yes, they are permitted 24 sq ft and they are proposing 31.5.

Derek Anderson:

RESOLUTION

Town of Webster Planning Board considered the request by Applicant, Erin Ferrente to install a

31.5 SF building mounted fagade sign for To the Core Lagree Versa Studio located at 1028

Ridge Road within the Town Centre Plaza on a 9.1-acre parcel having SBL # 079. 12-1-20.

The Planning Board classifies the proposed action to be a Type II Action under Section

617.5(c)(2) of the State Environmental Review (SEQR) Regulations and therefore is not subject

to further review.

RESOLUTION 24-0019 Derek Anderson made a motion for TYPE II

SEQR which was seconded by Derek Meixell.

VOTE:

Mr. Anderson AYE

Mr. Kosel AYE

Mr. Malta AYE

Mr. Meixell AYE

Mr. Casciani AYE

Mr. Giardina AYE

Mrs, Maltman AYE

RESOLUTION 24-0020 John Kosel made a motion for PRELIMINARY

APPROVAL

Located at 1028 Ridge Road, Ste.

125. Applicant Erin Ferrente is requesting SIGN

APPROVAL associated with the installation of a

31.5 SF building mounted fagade sign to reflect a

business within the Town Centre Plaza on a 9.1-acre

parcel having SBL # 079.12-1-20 located in an HC

High Intensity Commercial District under Section

265-7 A of the Code of the Town of Webster which

was seconded by Derek Meixell.

VOTE:

Mr. Anderson AYE

Mr. Kosel AYE

Mr. Malta AYE

Mr. Meixell AYE

Mr. Casciani AYE

Pg. 40 March 5, 2024 Planning Meeting

Mr. Giardina AYE

Mrs. Maltman AYE

ADMINISTRATIVE ITEM

Minutes were approved for December 5, 2023 and February 6,

2024.

With no other applications before the Board this evening Anthony Casciani concluded tonight’s

meeting at 8:00 PM.

Respectfully Submitted,

sionea” ELL Dyrater Dated AP Ree 7, 202.F

Mark Giardina, Secretary

Katherine Kolich, Recording Secretary

APR 11°24 ayesa

FILED WESSTER THR CLK

Pg. 41 March 5, 2024 Planning Meeting

End of document