WEBSTER TOWN PLANNING BOARD MINUTES
Webster Town Board Meeting Room 1002 Ridge Road
7:00 p.m.
| April 2025
ABSENT:
Anthony Casciani, Chairman Drazen Gasic
Dave Malta, Vice Chairman
Mark Giardina, Secretary
Derek Anderson
John Kosel
Peggy Maltman
Katherine Kolich, Recording Secretary
Frank Ciardi, Attorney
Josh Artuso, Director of Community Planning & Development
Erika Corsi, Planner of Community Planning & Development
Welcome to the April 1, 2025 Webster Planning Board meeting. Ok we can
get started. Our first one is just a tabled matter at Cobblestone.
Pledge of Allegiance/Roli Call.
Summary overview of outcome:
TABLED MATTERS
:
COBBLESTONE PLACE PHASE 2
EVAN VAN EPPS
SUBDIVISION APPROVED AS PRESENTED
SCHEDULED MATTERS
:
PEARLE VISION-SIGN
PEARLE VISION
APPROVED AS PRESENTED
NBT BANK-SIGN
RAPP SIGNS, INC.
APPROVED AS PRESENTED
SCOTTISH SHORTBREAD-SIGN
IAN MACDONALD
Status; APPROVED AS PRESENTED
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SHOECRAFT ROAD APARTMENTS
SHOECRAFT ROAD APARTMENTS LLC
APPROVED PRELIMINARY/FINAL
FINGER LAKES FEDERAL CREDIT UNION
JASON STANLEY
SKETCH REVIEW
(MARK GIARDINA READ INTO THE RECORD)
COBBLESTONE PLACE PHASE 2: Located at 1025 Ravenside Lane. Applicant Evan Van
Epps with Brickwood Management is requesting SUBDIVISION OF LAND in association with
the construction of a 3-story building containing 47 market rate apartment units on a 5,0-acre lot
having SBL# 079.15-1-8.003/SEN2 located in the MHR Medium High Residential District under
Section 296-18 of the Code of the Town of Webster.
Appearing before the board was Jake Calabrese with Marathon Engineering. (NEVER
SIGNED IN) I am here to present the subdivision for 1023 and 1025 Ravenside Lane in
preparation for the site plan of the 47 unit apartment complex.
To give a little background, we presented the sketch plan in November of 2024 to the
board and we were progressing with design and we found out that the initial Passero plans
that were completed or approved in 2015 for the 2 building 6 units senior living facilities
did not actually subdivide the property so we went to the Zoning Board last month to get
the appropriate variances needed for the that subdivision and I do have that list if anyone
needs to see that but the property line that we are proposing is the same exact one that was
approved in the plans back in 2015 in the Passero plans and we have submitted this for
preliminary review to Greg Bly in Monroe County Survey Department and the one note
that he had that he added into the plans is the extension of the existing easement because
we are subdividing the 2 properties. We need to now extend or create a smaller easement
just for what is the existing building on 1023.
Ok, you received all your vartances.
Yes, correct and those variances were created just because of the
subdivision line that was not actually subdivided so we had to formally go through those
variances.
And again, just to reiterate, you were in in November so there was a
sketch plan review by this board for the project; went to the Zoning Board and received
your variances and now you are back here for the subdivision.
We are back here for the subdivision to get the...
What is it, 1023 and 1025 correct.
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Yes, there is actually separate (ax parcel id’s already created but there is
just no formal subdivision.
Alright, anyone have any concerns or issues with this. It was originally
approved years ago for this type of operation. Anybody... Alright, do we need to do a
SEQR on this. Derek, do you think.
It’s administrative we just do it to cover it.
Ok, won’t bother okay.
Yeah. (SEE ATTACHED) ALL SEQR
RESOLUTIONS
FOR ALL
APPLICATIONS.
RESOLUTION 25-0027 Derek Anderson made a motion for
TYPE II SEQR which was
seconded by Dave Malta.
VOTE:
Mr. Casciani AYE
Mr. Malta AYE
Mr. Giardina AYE
Mr. Anderson AYE
Mr. Kosel AYE
Mrs. Maltman AYE
Mr. Gasic ABSENT
Ok, is everybody ok with this transaction.
Yes
Ok, then I will move it along and make a motion. Let’s see, the applicant
actually, previously appeared for sketch plan in November you said, I believe, right and then
appeared at the ZBA and received their necessary variances and now they are back here at the
Planning Board for the subdivision approva! so based on the comments from the board......
RESOLUTION 25-0028 Anthony Casciani made a motion for
SUBDIVISION APPROVAL of 1023 and
1025 RAVENSIDE LANE which includes
10 acres and creating 2-5 acre parcels and
all variances have been received by the
ZBA. SBL# 079.15-1-8.003/SEN2 located
in the MHR Medium High Residential
District under Section 296-18 of the Code of
the Town of Webster which was seconded
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DRAFT SEQR
RESOLUTIONS
THE PLANNING BOARD OF THE TOWN OF WEBSTER
1002 Ridge Road, VanIngen Court Building
April 1, 2025
DRAFT
RESOLUTIONS
SUBJECT TO DISCUSSION AND
APPROVAL BY THE PLANNING BOARD
TABLED MATTERS
1. COBBLESTONE PLACE PHASE 2
The Town of Webster Planning Board considered the request by Applicant, Brickwood
Management to subdivide an existing 10.0-acre +/- parcel having SBL# 079. 15-1-8.003
into two 5.0-acre +/- parcels for construction of a 3-story building containing 47
apartments.
The Planning Board classifies the proposed action to be a Type II Action under Section
617.5(c)(25) of the State Environmental Review (SEQR) Regulations and therefore is not
subject to further review.
SCHEDULED MATTERS
1. PEARL VISION SIGN
The Town of Webster Planning Board considered the request by Applicant, Elevated
Signs to instal! a 54 square foot +/- building mounted sign for Pearl Vision located at 900
Holt Road on a 7.5 acre parcel having SBL # 079.08-1-6.
The Planning Board classifies the proposed action to be a Type II Action under Section
617.5(c}(2) of the State Environmental Review (SEQR) Regulations and therefore is not
subject to further review.
DRAFT SEQR
RESOLUTIONS
THE PLANNING BOARD OF THE TOWN OF WEBSTER
1002 Ridge Road, VanIngen Court Building
April 1, 2025
2. NBT BANK SIGN
RESOLUTION
The Town of Webster Planning Board considered the request by Applicant, Corrine
Sands with Rupp Signs, Inc. to install a 43.4-sf building mounted and associated
directional signs for NBT Bank located at 1075 Ridge Road on a 1.59-acre parcel having
SBL # 079.16- 1-24.22.
The Planning Board classifies the proposed action to be a Type IY Action under Section
617.5(c)(2) of the State Environmental Review (SEQR) Regulations and therefore is not
subject to further review.
3. SCOTTISH SHORTBREAD SIGN
RESOLUTION
The Town of Webster Planning Board considered the request by Applicant, Ian
MacDonald to install a 32 square foot wall mounted sign for Scottish Shortbread located
at 700 Ridge Road on a 0.46-acre parcel having SBL # 079.17-1-2 .
The Planning Board classifies the proposed action to be a Type 1] Action under Section
617.5(c)(2) of the State Environmental Review (SEQR) Regulations and therefore is not
subject to further review.
4. 1048 SHOECRAFT ROAD
RESOLUTION
Unlisted Action.
by Dave Malta.
VOTE:
Mr. Casciani AYE
Mr. Malta AYE
Mr. Giardina AYE
Mr. Anderson AYE
Mr. Kosel AYE
Mrs. Maltman AYE
Mr. Gasic ABSENT
(MARK GIARDINA READ INTO THE RECORD)
Located at 900 Holt Road. Applicant Pearle Vision is requesting
SIGN APPROVAL in association with a 53.4SF internally illuminated LED wall mounted sign
on a 7.50-acre lot having SBL# 079.08-1-6 located in the OP Office Park District under Section
265-7 of the Code of the Town of Webster.
Appearing before the board was Collin with Elevated Signs (DID NOT SIGN IN) This one is
pretty straightforward it’s just a set of raceway mounted channel letters. The little lettering above
there with the green bars in non-illuminated, if anyone was wondering. They currently have a set
of raceway mounted letters. This is just the updated branding that he was sent from corporate,
so,
Is there something up there right now.
Yes, I don’t know if anyone can see this but...
Well, that’s ok but there is some
Yeah, there’s raceway mounted letters. The same exact sign type
that is there.
Alright. Simple request I guess, anything anybody...everybody okay with
that.
Yes
Anthony Casciani; Do a seeker and we'll move forward.
One place says it’s 900 Holt Road and one place says it’s 800 Holt Road.
The application has 800 but in fact the true address is
900. Derek Anderson: Ok. Holt Road or Ridge Road.
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;
Holt Road.
RESOLUTION 25-0029
VOTE:
Mr. Casciani
Mr. Malta
Mr. Giardina
Mr. Anderson
Mr. Kosel
Mrs. Maltman
Mr. Gasic
Derek Anderson made a motion for TYPE
Il SEQR which was seconded by Dave
Malta.
AYE
AYE
AYE
AYE
AYE
AYE
ABSENT
Josh, the size, it meets the standards for the fagade.
Yes. The overall square footage is within the allowable square footage based on
the area of the facade.
Okay, somebody want to make a motion for this sign.
RESOLUTION 25-0030
VOTE:
Mr. Casciani
Mr. Malta
Mr. Giardina
Mr. Anderson
Mr. Kosel
Mrs. Maltman
Mr. Gasic
John Kose] made a motion for SIGN
APPROVAL Located at 900 Holt Road.
Applicant Pearle Vision is requesting SIGN
APPROVAL in association with a 53.4SF
internally illuminated LED wall mounted
sign on a 7.50-acre lot having SBL# 079.08-
1-6 located in the OP Office Park District
under Section 265-7 of the Code of the
Town of Webster which was seconded by
Mark Giardina.
AYE
AYE
AYE
AYE
AYE
AYE
ABSENT
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(MARK GIARDINA READ INTO THE RECORD)
Located at 1075 Ridge Road. Applicant Corinne Sands with Rapp Signs
Inc. is requesting SIGN APPROVAL to allow (1) 43.90SF internally illuminated white LED
channel letter front fagade mounted sign, and (1) 43.40SF externally illuminated back panel, flat
cut lettering building mounted sign and associated directional and wayfinding signage on a 1.59-
acre lot having SBL# 079. 16-1-24.22 located in the MC Medium Intensity Commercial District
under Section 265-7 of the Code of the Town of Webster.
Appearing before the board was Corinne Sands. Good evening, Mr. Chairman, council and
follow board members. I am the Project Manager at Rapp Signs Incorporated. So, I am the
designated agent for NBT Bank, and I am here to request their approval for a signage package
for their new location at 1075 Ridge Road. At the moment they’re requesting a set of 24 in flush
mount channel letters with LED illumination on the front of the building; a 50” x 125” panel non-
illuminated letters but there’s already some gooseneck lamps on the back side of the building
replacing their monument signs with new faces that are reflective and that match their cotors
scheme and adding a clearance sign for safety purposes for anyone going underneath the drive-
through canopy covering the ATM surround with the new NBT bank logo and then door banding
across the front for the hours.
So, I guess the bottom line, what your doing is just replacing the signs that are
currently there with new names and so forth.
Correct.
There is no additional signage.
No.
Everything is the same
Yes
Everything meets the required size, are you good with that Josh. Everything’s
good.
Yeah, we did take a look at the previous variances associated with the last bank and
all of what they are proposing falls within what’s already been granted.
Ok. Now is this a new outfit or are you just going in with the bank that’s there.
So, they just opened it today actually.
Ok...alright anybody, any concerns. Basically, just duplicating what was
there. New names; same size, and same number of signs. Anybody have any issues with it.
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Nope.
Ok, this is going too quick.
RESOLUTION 25-0031
VOTE:
Mr. Casciani
Mr. Malta
Mr. Giardina
Mr. Anderson
Mr. Kosel
Mrs. Maltman
Mr. Gasic
Derek Anderson made a motion for TYPE
II SEQR which was seconded by Dave
Malta
AYE
AYE
AYE
AYE
AYE
AYE
ABSENT
And the approval for the sign I guess you go ahead John, you want to do the
approval.
RESOLUTION 25-0032
VOTE:
Mr. Casciani
Mr. Malta
Mr. Giardina
Mr. Anderson
Mr. Kosel
Mrs. Maltman
Mr. Gasic
John Kosel made a_ motion for
PRELIMINARY/FINAL SITE PLAN
APPROVAL Located at 1075 Ridge Road.
Applicant Corinne Sands with Rapp Signs
Inc. is requesting SIGN APPROVAL to
allow (1) 43.90SF internally illuminated
white LED channel letter front fagade
mounted sign, and (1) 43.40SF externally
illuminated back panel, flat cut lettering
building mounted sign and associated
directional and wayfinding signage on a
1.59-acre lot having SBL# 079.16-1-24.22
located in the MC Medium Intensity
Commercial District under Section 265-7 of
the Code of the Town of Webster which
was seconded by Mark Giardina.
AYE
AYE
AYE
AYE
AYE
AYE
ABSENT
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(MARK GIARDINA READ INTO THE RECORD)
Located at 700 Ridge Road. Applicant Ian MacDonald. is
requesting SIGN APPROVAL in association with a 32SF single face wooden wall mounted sign
on a 0.46-acre lot having SBL# 079.17-1-2 located in the MC Medium Intensity Commercial
District under Section 265-7 of the Code of the Town of Webster.
Appearing before the board was Ian MacDonald from Historic Sign and Restoration (DID NOT
SIGN IN) and I am representing the Scottish Shortbread Company, and I am proposing to do a
traditional style sign. Overlayed plywood with cutout letters the word shortbread would be cut
out of half inch PVC stock. I’ve got a painted border around the perimeter as you see. The lion
rampant logos on either end are hand painted. The top and bottom arcs will be separate pieces
cut out of the same material raised off the surface, so the entire sign has some dimensionality to
it. The letters are raised; those two panels are raised; kind of floating at the top and bottom. I'll
be installing it on the face of the building with hidden fasteners and | am going to make a French
cleat. It will just hook on and you won’t even see the fasteners and non-lit.
Ok. No outside sign, monument sign or anything in the front. This is just on
the facade right.
There is a monument sign already there for the 3 businesses that are there. I’ve
got some lettering on that and we’re probably going to take off and I want this to be the focus of
the business. As well as being the sign maker, I’m also the owner of the Shortbread business so
I’m kind of doing double duty here tonight.
Yeah, it’s a good deal. Anybody any issues with that sign.
No.
Seem pretty cut and dry. Okay, want to do seeker on that.
RESOLUTION 25-0033 Derek Anderson made a motion for TYPE II
ACTION which was seconded by Dave Malta.
VOTE:
Mr. Casciani AYE
Mr. Malta AYE
Mr. Giardina AYE
Mr. Anderson AYE
Mr. Kosel AYE
Mrs. Maltman AYE
Mr. Gasic ABSENT
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Ok, somebody want to make a motion for the sign.
Is this for the building mounted sign or are we doing anything for the monument
sign.
Just the building mounted sign is all he’s show yeah.
RESOLUTION 25-0034 John Kosel made a motion for SIGN APPROVAL
Located at 700 Ridge Road. Applicant Jan
MacDonald. is requesting SIGN APPROVAL in
association with a 32SF single face wooden wall
mounted sign on a 0.46-acre lot having SBL#
079.17-1-2 located in the MC Medium Intensity
Commercial District under Section 265-7 of the
Code of the Town of Webster Which was seconded
by Mark Giardina.
VOTE:
Mr. Casciani AYE
Mr. Malta AYE
Mr. Giardina AYE
Mr. Anderson AYE
Mr. Kosel AYE
Mrs. Maltman AYE
Mr. Gasic ABSENT
(MARK GIARDINA READ INTO THE RECORD)
1048 SHOECRAFT ROAD APARTMENTS: Located at 1048 Shoecraft Road. Applicant
Shoecraft Road Apartments LLC is requesting PRELIMINARY/FINAL APPROVAL in
association with the construction of four (4) 10-unit multi-family residential dwellings on a 5.20-
acre lot having SBL# 079.19-1-15 located in the MHR Medium High Residential District under
Section 269-11 of the Code of the Town of Webster.
Appearing before the board was Link Swedrock with BME, can you hear me good. With me
tonight is Nick Gracios and John Garcios from Shoecraft Road Apartments LLC and Megan
Sereni from BME, my office is with us as well.
We are here tonight (o talk about are request for preliminary final site plan review for 1048
Shoecraft Road. The proposed development is located at 1048 Shoecraft Road, and we are
proposing for 10 unit multi-family residential buildings with an existing single family house on
the site that will continue to be used as a rental with existing barn, garage, and the barn is to
remain and we are going to use that as amenities for the apartment project. This plan you guys
have seen a few times. We have been here a couple times for sketch plan, and we’ve been to a
bunch of multiple PRC meetings to work with staff. The plan has changed quite a bit over the
time and with the coordination with the town I am just going to go over and highlight a few of
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the revisions we've made. So, the big thing is the rental unit. We’re going to reduce that. The
existing house that has three units in it and we are going to reduce that to one unit and just to say
that the proposed project meets all the requirements of the code; road widths; parking areas lot
coverage setback requirements as well as density and the allowable green space is 42% when
allowable 75% . In coordination with the town, as you recall the road actually went off before to
the south and the road now with the...working with the town we’re now proposing a 26 ft new
access drive off of Shoecraft Road maximizing our distance from Meadow Ridge which ts across
the street the road here trying to maximize the distance there and a new...the access drive will
access Shoecraft Road now we’ve added a dog park amenity area which was added and we also
have added additional guest parking, relocated guest parking; added guest parking based on
conversations with just spreading it out throughout the site. The dumpster enclosure we’ve
removed, and we’ll be using individual totes. We have added a sports...we’ve added a sport
court area for the residents as well as the existing barn that we’re leaving and we’re going to keep
for an amenity area for the residents and the buildings wil! be served like I said, new access drive
off of Shoecraft Road will be proposing a exist a new private sanitary sewer to serve the 40 units
as well as a new private water main that would be coming in with a hydrant .
The system would be private. We would take the water service to the existing house and take it
off the new water service. The garages and things that we have proposed is all consistent with
sort of what we talked about, actually we pushed everything back. So, each one of these buildings
has 10 units like I said, each unit has it’s own garage and has a 25 foot wide or long driveway in
front of it. So, it has room for a car in the garage as well as a car in the driveway in front of it.
So, that’s one thing that we talked about earlier. The visitor parking, we've ...so basically that
provides two spaces per unit as well as like I said the 24 visitor parking spots that we provided
through the site area. Storm water, we’ ve collect with a combination of stormwater facilities with
the new ...using the new updated DEC design manual for bio retention areas a combination to
collect and detain and tret the post development runoff that drains to the east to an existing swale
within an easement that goes to the north.
We’ ve also proposed a turnaround at the end of this termination that meets New York State fire
code that we reviewed through the process with fire staff regarding the 26 foot wide fore access
drive as well as the turnaround at the end to make sure emergency vehicles can turn around at the
end. We also received town PRC review comments from the last review, and we provided written
responses addressing all those comments and I think we feel comfortable that we would be able
to address all those with revised plans and I guess we are looking to see if there’s any other
questions, we can answer from the board tonight and J think PIl stop talking now.
Question that I] have, in the October meeting it was asked what exit and entry
way you're going to have, and North Estates Drive was selected. Tonight, we’re talking about
switching that over to Shoecraft Road. Could you explain in depth why.
I think talking with PR...1 mean, it was really a coordination with town Staff
and I though that’s what we were looking at. The big thing was accessing off the other road was
giving us a lot of .....we’d have to provide a turnaround at the end of that drive and it make it
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very awkward to provide access to the site and provide emergency access into the site to make
sure emergency vehicles can get om there and access could be provided to get to these 40 units
was discussed that this seemed like a much cleaner way to get emergency vehicles in service the
40 units and also cleaner for the residents to come in and out and it was really coordination and
with the town on the direction we thought that you wanted to go.
Another item that was mentioned in the October meeting was the traffic study.
Mr. Casciani mentioned that as a suggestion. You have provided a traffic study for the board for
the sake of just public knowledge could you enlighten us as to what that traffic study indicates.
Yeah, we did a well...we did include a traffic trip generation analysis within the
engineers report that was included in the engineers report, and I don’t have that right in front of
me now, but we have analyzed the number of trips based on the background traffic and we
submitted that with out engineers report. I don’t know if the town has any more comments on
the information we provided.
As far as that goes, I spoke with the Town Engineer in regard to that today
and he was satisfied with it.
I think we provided him with what he was looking for.
] know there was concern on that and he was satisfied with it.
Like I said, I didn’t see any other comments from the PRC on that and it was
part of our information we tried to include in the engineers report.
Well, this has been in a few times now and it’s been modified and gone over
quite a bit. Again, tonight, this is a public hearing so if there is anybody here, neighbors that wish
to speak either for or against this.
Chelsea Gasper at 1044 Shoecraft Road: I have plenty of concerns. Pm a terrible public speaker
so I apologize. So, for one, changing the entrance and exit is there's the bus stop that ts right
there for both sides of the road. My son gets on the bus and then the other side is the middle
school and the high schoolers so it's morning and night and that would just kind of concern me
for the already existing traffic and you are going to add more, The other thing is, where they are
building the new road is flooded all the time, se 1 don't know...1 feel like that’s going to make it
maybe better or worse because of all the water is going to run off of it and I've tried to get that
fixed for the only 3 years that I have owned my house. [ve remodeled the entire thing inside, so
the outside was next, and 1 do doggy daycare and boarding it's like my entire life. So, when we
bought the house, we saw the land behind it as like potential. So now, that potentials kind of gone.
My son as my middle school teacher like Lam just so happy to be back in Webster and if this goes
through I’m so worried about like what's going to happen because | mean now they’re putting in
a dog park which is great and I'm so here for that but I’m worried that it’s going to be like more
and more problems and 1 am going to be pushed out of my home and Fam a single mom so it’s
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nat the easiest... don't know, | really don’t know what to say to these, | play with dogs for a
living. It's been my life for 8 years and longer than that because when I graduated from Webster
T went to walking dogs because I was terrible with speaking with people because I was in house
fire and I am covered with scars head to toe so that was just hard to deal with so I worked with
dogs and that’s why I’m like so overwhelmed too because I feel like this happens so fast and |
haven't even had the chance to be settled in in this home so. I guess 1 was okay with putting the
road somewhere else but now I'm like this is just going to keep getting closer and literally getting
pushed out and I feel like there’s so many other spaces that you could put it and that is my piece
on it, I guess. Thank you for listening to me and thank you for being patient.
Jen Fonseca at Forest Drive. | do not live on Shoecraft Road but l was born and raised in Webster
and Webster, if you look behind you is where life is worth living and I see another encroachment
not only on her property right there but that whole area is already developed tremendously with
apartments and all I see in Webster are apartments and apartments and apartments and yet
people are saying, “Where are the single family homes” and that has been a big issue not only
in Webster but across the United States as we know with things that are going on. So. to put
another apartment building right there at that corner where there are a lot of apartments already
going in, it encroaches not only on her property but the existing homes that are there right now
and as she said, just with the buses and with the school across the street that new entrance way
from Shoecraft. I travel on Shoecraft all the time because my church is over there and also in
Summit knolls area, and it is going to be a nightmare. Next thing you know we will have to put
up a light over there which is also going to be a hassle. So, 1 don't know what trip thing is stating
that it’s all within limits. If is a safety concern, but it is also a concern for her business which
these apartments will be over looking her business and her yard and her privacy. [imagine that
the drainage problem would probably be taken care of which would be a blessing for her but yet
on the other hand, another apartment building over there. [ just see that whole area....and if you
go down Ridge Road, I bet you any of you that go down Ridge Road just on a Saturday morning
at 9-10 o'clock is like crawling down Ridge Road. Now you're just adding more, and I keep
seeing it growing and growing and growing. We're starting to look like Irondequoit or Greece
and that is where we are heading. So, [ just want to caution you on approving this and putting in
yet more apartments over there which is already inflated and how long it is that going to last.
So, please strongly consider that and especially that additional entrance way on Shoecraft Road,
thank you.
I don’t think anyone here would actually disagree with you on this board. We
all feel the same way but see the problems come into this. This is what we read on the news, and
you see it on Facebook and everything. LEverybody’s complaining about it and we’re in
agreement, however. However, our hands are tied in that regard because the town’s zoning allows
thal area to have apartments, it isn’t like it was zoned for a building or a particular. It’s zoned for
apartments and if somebody has the property, the owners of the property, they have the right to
develop it. The best we can do is get the best we can get out of it that’s why...they didn’t just
come in and like that you know. It’s difficult situation but we’re tied in regard to that and alls
we can do ts minimize the size where we could on it; deal with the traffic situation as best as we
can; have traffic studies done and a lot of this, there’s other projects. I] mean in all the years
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there’s projects that have come in and “OH MY GOD, it’s going to be the end of the world in
Webster” and they end up not being as bad as what we assume they’re going to be . No guarantee
what’s here. The biggest thing when the young lady spoke was where the kids wait for the bus.
That may be something we’d have to look at with the school district to see what can be done in
regard to that. [ would make a not of that.
Yes, | fully agree that...l wouldn’t say so much hands are tied. Yes,
it’s zoning but zoning is created where. Here at the town level so I'm not blaming anybody I'm
just stating that looking at where life is worth living and seeing that growth and | did read Tom's
latest newsletter talking about how positive the growth ts since 1970's where we used to be 29,000
in regards to our population and where are we not, at almost 50,000 which does require housing
but what kind of housing and how can we also look at that zoning moving forward to ensure that
we are increasing our residential neighborhoods and that ability to buy and stay and become
part of this community and to maintain that Webster small town feel.
One of the good things right now is just currently getting started. There’s a
comprehensive plan, I don’t know if you’re familiar with it. That’s going to involve the town in
general. All the zoning and so on for the whole town. So, that may be a positive thing in a couple
years for properties that are remaining for how they get rezoned and so on and so forth but right
now, we are doing the best we can with what we have.
Thank you and I thank you for all of you that work so diligently on
this committee because I know it’s something that you do and give up your time for it so I’m not
trying to be negative or combative or anything like that. I’ve never spoken in front of this group,
right Frank, but it does concern me where we are going with out town, with our county and in
our State.
It was raised about the school buses and that is something that 1 should have
included in my comments as well but there are times during the day when the school buses are
pulling out of Schroeder or they’re coming down the road to pick up children, it does tie up traffic
and traffic is a problem. It’s going to be a bottleneck in certain hours of the day. Even in the
evening it’s a bottleneck.
As far as the school that may be something you can look al.
Yeah, we just looked up the trip generations so this projects projected to have
19 trips in the morning and 23 in the pm. Peak hours. So, that is the trip generations. Just so you
know but yeah, we certainly can look at it but also keep in mind that the proposed road is on the
driveway that is there. That exists so were keeping...we’re maintaining a driveway that there.
We are widening it because we need to make it 26 foot wide for emergency vehicles and access,
but we can certainly look at the school and the stops. We don’t want to conflict with any of that.
Okay.
Well, the young lady who was talking, the one that owns the house. She’s right
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about the flooding. That gets...it looks like Lake Ontario over there sometimes especially when
we get heavy rain and the other thing, I noticed is that there are some huge trees on the borderline
between the property that you want and her property and I’d like to know, what is going to be
done about those.
We’re proposing to keep them.
You are going to keep the large trees.
If unless we hear otherwise, we were trying to keep them unless they’re in bad
shape or anything, but we were trying...our plan was we moved the road all the way to the south
and we tried to maintain those trees on the border here (SHOWING LOCATION ON THE
PLANS).
So, if the water is there that’s actually... you’re showing a detention area there
anyways so that’s a plus.
(TALKING BUT CAN NOT HEAR HIM...NOT NEAR THE MIC)
So, that would alleviate some of the water problems.
We have a bio retention area proposed there.
As a result of this and I know your concern was with water, there should be
no more water coming towards your property than you get now from wherever. From the road
or from the other joining properties. This, what they’re designing here, should contain that water
in that area.
SOMEONE SPEAKING FROM THE AUDIENCE.
Chelsea Gasper at 1044 Shoecraft Road: Unfortunately, my house is the lowest spot of both sides
so the water flows from the back of the property and the side of the property and then you literally
add the road runoff too. It goes right there, and I don’t have a culvert in front of my house so it
literally just basically getting flooded. We installed a sump pump underground to pump out water
with a hose because we needed it but those trees that he was speaking of too, they’re dead
because of the water. Like if you look at Shoecraft and look at the houses, there’s a htge
blossoming tree, beautiful and 1 actually already spoke to them about cutting it dawn and they
said they were going to, and it didn’t happen yet but then you look kind of like a little bit to the
left and the trees have all fallen because they’re just so wet. So, the water all in there is just really
bad.
This should actually help it with that detention area.
Chelsea Gasper at 1044 Shoecraft Road: Yes, | mean from the side for sure but even from: the
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back you're going to put the pavement up there I'd be worried that it is still going to run down.
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Well again, not to be ...but they have drainage containment, you know
detention ponds if you will even to the backside of the property which is the low point so the
water should go that way. See that, you have become a better speaker, second time up.
Chelsea Gasper at 1044 Shoecraft Road: Yes, it's just a lot at first.
Anyone else wish to speak. Ok, no one wishing to speak than what we are
going to do Is we'll close the public hearing; bring it back up to the board. Any comments, board
members.
I would like to know how long they expect the project to take to fruition,
Once we get final approval, we are hoping to build all the buildings in about a year
and a half to two years max.
2027
Well, whenever we get approval, we'll have to have probably a few months before
we start so it really depends on when we get final approval but a year and a half to 2 years from
start of construction through completion. Including all site work.
Okay, thank you.
If you do take those dead trees out, will you replace them with anything to give
her some privacy.
We can talk to her directly and come up with a good plan and Chelsea after this
meeting, if you want to meet, we can meet in the hall and talk through some of the issues you
have, and we can address them.
Actually, I just have one question. The hot box for the meter and the backflow
preventor it’s necessary because it’s private service and all that good stuff. What I’m wondering
is, is that going to create a sight distance issue for people that pull out look to the right. Does it
have to come back farther into the parcel.
We can review that, bul the intent would be that it can be far enough back where
it shouldn’t be a problem with sight distance and we’re also trying to make it a nicer looking
structure not just a hot box structure so we have enough room to pull it back there.
So, you’re usually about 4 ft high right. The ones you are looking at.
It will probably be a litthe higher than that. It will probably be 6-7 feet because
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of ...it's going to be a big main going back there for the hydrant so the valves on those are about
3-4 feet themselves.
Yeah, so that’d be my only comment is take a look at the sight distance as
They’re pulling up and stop so you’re not looking at essentially a wall.
We will take a look at that for sure.
Anyone else?
No
Well again, this project has been in several times, and it’s been modified and
reviewed. I guess we can move forward with a preliminary approval on the project based on all
the information that has been presented.
(SEE ATTACHED)
RESOLUTION 25-0035 Derek Anderson made a motion for an UNLISTED
ACTION-NEGATIVE DECLARATION which
was seconded by Dave Malta.
VOTE:
Mr. Casciant AYE
Mr. Malta AYE
Mr. Giardina AYE
Mr. Anderson AYE
Mr. Kosel AYE
Mrs. Maltman AYE
Mr. Gasic ABSENT
RESOLUTION 25-0036 Dave Malta made a motion for PRELIMINARY
SITE PLAN APPROVAL Located at 1048
Shoecraft Road. Applicant Shoecraft Road
Apartments LLC is requesting PRELIMINARY
APPROVAL in association with the construction
of four (4) 10-unit multi-family residential
dwellings on a 5.20-acre lot having SBL# 079.19
1-15 Jocated in the MHR Medium High Residential
District under Section 269-11 of the Code of the
Town of Webster which was seconded by Mark
Giardina.
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TOWN OF WEBSTER PLANNING BOARD RESOLUTION
1048 SHOECRAFT ROAD - UNLISTED ACTION
THE PLANNING BOARD OF THE TOWN OF WEBSTER
1002 Ridge Road, VanIngen Court Building
SEQR UNLISTED ACTION
APRIL 1, 2025
MOTION FOR UNLISTED ACTION
Town of Webster Planning Board considered the request by Applicant, Shoecraft Road Apartments,
LLC to construct a 41-unit multi-family residential use community consisting of four (4) new 10-unit
two-story apartment buildings, and one existing one-unit building located on Shoecraft Road on a +5.22-
acre parcel having SBL #079.19-1-15.
The Planning Board determined that the proposed action is an Unlisted Action under Part 617: State
Environmental Quality Review (SEQR).
The Planning Board determined that the action is subject to a single agency review pursuant to Part
617.6(b)(L) of SEQR and that it is the most appropriate agency for making the determination of
significance, The Planning Board therefore designates itself lead agency for the proposed action.
The Planning Board has given consideration to the criteria for determining significance as set forth in
Section 617.7(c)(1) of SEQR, and has
1. considered the information contained in the Full Environmental Assessment Form Part | dated
March 7, 2025,
2. considered public comments directed to the Planning Board during the Public Hearing on
April 1, 2025 and
3. completed Parts 2 and 3 of the Environmental Assessment Form.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED that the TOWN OF WEBSTER PLANNING BOARD
hereby determines that the proposed action will not have a significant adverse effect on the environment
for the reasons set forth in the attached Notice of Determination of Non-Significance; be it further,
RESOLVED that the TOWN OF WEBSTER PLANNING BOARD is authorized to take all actions
reasonable and necessary to file the Negative Declaration and discharge the TOWN OF WEBSTER
PLANNING BOARD'S responsibility as lead agency for this action, be it further,
RESOLVED that the TOWN OF WEBSTER PLANNING BOARD, based on the information and
analysis above, the referenced supporting documentation, and discussions of the action by the TOWN
OF WEBSTER PLANNING BOARD as documented by the Minutes for this meeting, that the proposed
action WILL NOT result in any significant environmental impacts, be it further,
RESGLVED that the TOWN OF WEBSTER PLANNING BOARD, therefore makes a
DETERMINATION OF NON-SIGNIFICANCE, be it further,
RESOLVED, that the TOWN OF WEBSTER PLANNING BOARD, based on the above reasons issues
a NEGATIVE DECLARATION as evidence of its determination.
TOWN OF WEBSTER PLANNING BOARD RESOLUTION
1048 SHOECRAFT ROAD - UNLISTED ACTION
THE PLANNING BOARD OF THE TOWN OF WEBSTER
1002 Ridge Road, VanIngen Court Building
SEQR UNLISTED ACTION
APRIL 1, 2025
15. The action will not create a substantial change in use of the land since the action is consistent
with zoning for the land, the existing community character, and the Town of Webster 2008
Comprehensive Plan.
16. The action will not attract a large number of people for more than a few days when compared to
taking no action since the action involves the creation of nine new parcels and does not create
areas that will attract a large number of people.
17. The action will not create a cumulative impact on the environment as listed under 617(c)(1)(x),
(xi), and (xii) of SEQR.
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PRELIMINARY APPROVAL CHECKLIST
1.
on a re nd
10. I.
12.
13.
14.
15. Subject to PRC Comments
Subject to a Letter of Credit posted with the Town of Webster.
Subject to Conservation Board comments
Subject to Monroe County Water Authority comments
Subject to the determination of the ZBA for requested variances.
All the improvements shall be constructed according to the specification of the Town of
Webster.
All roadway construction to be in accordance with the specification and regulations set forth
by the Town of Webster.
All sitework is to be in compliance with the standards of the Town of Webster.
Comply with all requirements of any Federal, State, County, or Town agency.
Address drainage, lighting, signage, and landscaping, buffering, berming and snow storage.
The landscape, hardscape, site accessories, and associated finished grading design for the
development must be prepared by a NYS licensed Landscape Architect. The final landscape
plans shall bear the seal and signature of the Landscape Architect.
Approvals are subject to Drawing No: 2961 Dated: 3.11.25
Proceed to Final Approval
Project must conform to the letter from BME.
Pre-mytar drawings should be submitted prior.
And we should add a couple of things in there too. Wants us to conform with
a letter received from BME Engineering firm, and this is for the 1048 Shoecraft Road. Their
comments.
..they had some comments that they made. 1 don’t know if you’ ve gotten them but
yeah, that’s a......we will make it subject to those being all addressed and al! PRC comments and
engineering comments that were....you have stated you’re going to do them and one other thing
probably should put in there is that....well, we could put that in if we could put it now too. A pre-
drawing prior to your mylars being signed. A pre-mylar drawing presented to the town for
approval that everything is done, completed as requested. Okay.
VOTE:
Mr. Casciani AYE
Mr. Malta AYE
Mr. Giardina AYE
Mr. Anderson AYE
Mr. Kosel AYE
Mrs. Maltman AYE
Mr. Gasic ABSENT
RESOLUTION 25-0037 Dave Malta made a motion for FINAL SITE
PLAN APPROVAL Located at 1048 Shoecraft
Road. Applicant Shoecraft Road Apartments LLC
is requesting FINAL APPROVAL in association
with the construction of four (4) 10-unit multi-
family residential dwellings on a 5.20-acre lot
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having SBL# 079.19-1-15 located in the MHR
Medium High Residential District under Section
269-11 of the Code of the Town of Webster
seconded by John Kosel.
FINAL APPROVAL CHECKLIST
a GS
9.
10. All storm water facilities are to be constructed first.
Subject to PRC comments.
Subject to Parks and Recreation fees (if applicable)
Subject to Preliminary Approval Conditions.
Subject to all applicable governmental fees.
Subject to Department of Public Works approval!
Significant construction shall occur within one year, as deemed by the Planning Board, to expire
on 4.1.26.
The conditions of Preliminary and Final approval are depicted on the cover page of the final
designed plans.
The Engineer for the proposed project shall provide a Letter of Certification that all proposed
work was completed, as per Planning Board resolution of final approval before a Certificate of
Occupancy will be issued.
A Letter of Credit to the Town for the project shall include the fee for the Engineer’s final
certification inspection of the site.
Mr. Malta are the down spouts going to be connected.
They’re going to be. I don’t know they’re a lot of them......they are going to
splash blocks that are going to bio retention areas.
Okay.
So, in the rears because there’s bioretention areas in the rear and fronts, they will
have a connection.
11. Subject to resolution of the final approved minutes.
12. Approvals are subject to Drawing No: 2961
VOTE:
Mr. Casciani
Mr. Malta
Mr. Giardina
Mr. Anderson
Mr. Kosel
Mrs. Maltman
Mr. Gasic
3.11.25
AYE
AYE
AYE
AYE
AYE
AYE
ABSENT
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(MARK GIARDINA READ INTO THE RECORD)
Located at 71] and 715 Ridge Road.
Applicant Jason Stanley is requesting SKETCH PLAN REVIEW in association with the
demolition of the existing structures (two-story residential dwelling, barn and garage) and the
construction of a new 2,600SF banking facility with internal site parking on a proposed 2.26-acre
lot having SBL#s 079.17-1-78.111 and 079.17-1-79 located in the MC Medium Intensity
Commercial District under Section 269-5 of the Code of the Town of Webster.
Appearing before the board was Evan Gefell with Costich Engineering. (DID NOT SIGN IN)!
represent PW Cample and Finger lakes Federal Credit Union. I spoke with the president of the
credit union today and he had a commitment he couldn’t come but we are here for concept review
at the corner of Ridge and Hatch. So currently on the parcel there is an existing residential house
and two other accessory structures, garage, and barns. The two lots currently are about 2 acres .
The intent is to remove the structures and build the new banking facility. The building will be
25-2600 square feet. Do you have the site plan.
So, together the acreage is 2 acres. We oriented the structure to the corner of Hatch and Ridge
utilizing an access that will be off of the Country Max existing entrance Ridge as we don’t want
to have a separate connection to Ridge Road . I know Country Max has submitted a letter stating
that you know, during their approvals, the board wanted cross access. There is no easement sel
but the credit union has approached them and today based on that letter to start working thought
that discussion. The second entrance would be onto Hatch and again, we kind of oriented the
sight angle to address the intersection and allowed the parking to stay in the rear of the property
and then the, as everyone knows, the grade falls off pretty quickly to the south off Ridge. So,
keeping it up closer to Ridge mitigates or limits the amount of grading that has to happen there
and in the southern portion of the site there is also large vegetation buffer that the client definitely
wants to maintain as much as possible. (APPLICANT HOLDING RENDERING UP) You can
see the darker spot here So the drive up, there will be an ATM and 2 electronic tellers, and |
asked the question about the queueing and there is enough there for roughly for six cars. They
currently, Finger lakes Federal Credit Unit is currently down the road where they ...815 Ridge
Road, they currently lease that building and they’re looking to purchase this property of have
purchased this property to build their own and no longer lease.
So, speaking to the credit union, a person can drive in and utilize one of thee three drive ups and
not have to wait. They can be served immediately. So, I think we are going to sheet flow to a
couple of bioretention areas and then the drainage will continue to the south. Utilities will be
picked up off of Ridge and Hatch and I think the water we can get without being in the DOT
right away. So, yeah, that’s an overview of the concept of where we are.
J] think you’ ve done @ nice job with this. I think the whole plan is a nice plan.
I’m glad to hear that you are...that they are working along with Country Max to resolve that part
and the only issue I have is onto Hatch Road and I feel very strong if that connection should go
south and connect to the other entrance to Country Max. The reason, is I know there are some
difficulties involved but that section of Hatch Road is super busy and you are almost right across
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from Goshorn’s exit right there and he docs a lot of business and there's a lot of people
unfortunately take advantage of that because they come out, go north onto Hatch Road, cut into
his property and then go out to Ridge Road and then come back through that way using his
property to avoid the light and the traffic. I think that particular configuration in there should be
added to the southern entrance to the Country Max. Other than that, [ think you have a great plan.
Thank you, great. It is something that we can explore and discuss for sure. There
were also some building renderings kind of their brand and what they were thinking. So, it’s kind
of a mix of different materials. There is some bricks on it, some cultured stone, some aluminum
accents, and glass. So, pretty modern looking.
I think it’s an attractive looking building. It’s an asset to that whole area right
there actually.
I think it’s a great use for that corner.
Low volume of traffic We did have Burn Dairy, and they wanted to put a full
service station gas and that’s like yeah, I don’t think that is going to work and that was
discouraged. This is minimum traffic IT would just like to see that one issue resolved.
Hopefully they can work that out because the configuration that’s there now.
You were talking about people cutting the intersection, that would be an attractive way to cut the
intersection going east.
That is what they do. They’ll cut right though there to get out.
Because right now it stakes up really to Country Max’s driveway if not beyond
it,
And that section of Hatch Road is kind of a nasty piece anyways because it’s
actually got railroad timbers on the side there to right to widen and make a turning lane to go east
off of Hatch onto Ridge Alright, anybody have any other concerns. Ok, I guess we are all set
with it.
Mary Ellen Kimball at 1066 Hatch Road: When Country Max originally made their plans to build
there, that exit on Hatch Road was only to be utilized but that was a service read and not to be
used as an entrance or exit .
Really?
Yes, really.
It goes right into their site.
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f know.
(MR. KIMBALL, SPEAKING FROM THE AUDIENCE, CAN NOT REALLY HEAR)
It's a service road because they have their big trucks coming in there.
(MR. KIMBALL, SPEAKING FROM THE AUDIENCE, CAN NOT REALLY HEAR)
And there is a culvert there also on the right adjacent to your property and
I don’t know if it’s on your property or it it’s.........
(APPLICANT SPEAKING WITH THE NEIGHBOR) and in the spring time, it’s very active.
It’s that stream that comes down though there so I’m wondering what do you plan on doing with
that. (APPLICANT SPEAKING TO THE RESIDENT, NOT USING THE MIC AND HARD
TO HEAR) the original stream used to follow this path and when they built Country Max it was
diverted to that culvert that goes around so that will be part of our engineering to make sure that
it's ....going to handle what we’re putting in with the regulations that we have. We are not
allowed to add more than what’s going to it today and if you look behind the Country Max has a
larger retention ponds behind them and they and have to do the same thing where they have to
retain storm water and they can only allow so much to leave so they don’t............
Right along the side of Country Max property is where it doesn’t
(MR. KIMBALL, SPEAKING FROM THE AUDIENCE, CAN NOT REALLY HEAR)
(APPLICANT SPEAKING TO THE RESIDENT, NOT USING THE MIC AND HARD TO
HEAR)
Excuse me folks, this isn’t a back and forth thing. What they will have to do
is address what we are requesting when they come back in as far as that road connecting. They’ll
have to show the details. We're not going to resolve it right now. We are looking at it and we’re
all aware the drainage line going through there. I guess my question to you would be, what would
be the problem with them going and connecting to that roadway as opposed to putting another
driveway in. See what J’m saying, that’s why my suggestion is to eliminate that.
I understand that. Tam just concerned about
(MR. KIMBALL, SPEAKING FROM THE AUDIENCE, CAN NOT REALLY HEAR)
Wait a minute, she’s up here speaking please.
They said that that was just going to be a service road...a service road on that side,
Ok.
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Let me ask you a question, what would a service road be,
THE KIMBALLS ARE BOTH SPEAKING AT THE SAME TIME.
One or the other is to speak, this is not a public hearing. We are just giving
you the courtesy to express something. My question is what is the difference between that being
a roadway or a Service road.
The amount of traffic.
Yes, the traffic has increased.
Well, that’s good, I’m glad to hear that because that was the intent of it for
cars to go in and out. They could come out and go up to Hatch Road to the signal light to be able
to go out at a signal light as opposed to try and necessarily get out directly on to Ridge Road ona
heavy traffic day. That was the intent of that.
Well, you were just saying about the chiropractor up there how people are cutting
through. Well, that’s what they are doing at Country Max now. They cut through Country Max
to avoid the light. So is one good and the other one not good.
Alright, let’s end this conversation. We can not control that.
THE KIMBALLS ARE BOTH SPEAKING AT THE SAME TIME AND WALKING AWAY.
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With no other applications before the Board this evening Anthony Casciani concluded tonight’s
meeting at 8:00 PM.
Respectfully Submitted,
Signed
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Mark Giardina, Secretary ’ a4
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