Planning Board Meeting
Planning Minutes 2025.10.07

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WEBSTER TOWN PLANNING BOARD MINUTES

PLACE

Webster Town Board Meeting Room 1002 Ridge Road

TIME

7:00 p.m.

DATE

7 October 2025

PRESENT:

Anthony Casciani, Chairman

Mark Giardina, Secretary

Dave Malta, Vice Chairman

Derek Anderson

John Kosel

Derek Meixell

Josh Artuso

Erika Corsi

Frank Ciardi, Attorney

ABSENT:

Peggy Maltman

Anthony Casciani

Welcome to the October 7, 2025 Webster Planning Board meeting. We have

4 items on the agenda this evening.

Pledge of Allegiance/Roll Call

Anthony Casciani:

Summary overview of outcome:

TABLED MATTERS

:

POLE BARN

Applicant

Joseph Giorgione-895 County Line Road

Status

APPROVED W/ CONDITIONS: Not to be used for personal use.

SCHEDULED MATTERS

:

DOCK AND BOAT COVER

Applicant

Bradley Roehrig-237 Inspiration Point Rd

Status

APPROVED AS PRESENTED

PIRANHA RENTS

Applicant

Patrick Young-Five Mile Line Rd

Status

FEEDBACK PROVIDED

CARE A LOT SIGN

Applicant

Connor Ewing-369 Phillips Rd

Status

APPROVED AS PRESENTED

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( Mark Giardina will read all application into the record)

POLE BARN

Located at 895 County Line Road. Applicant Joseph Giorgione is requesting

PRELIMINARY / FINAL SITE PLAN APPROVAL (

PUBLIC HEARING

) associated with

the construction of a [,536 SF metal pole barn on a 2.7-acre lot having SBL# 081.01-1-46 located

in the LL Large-Lot District under Sections 269-10, 350-13 and 350-36 of the Code of the Town

of Webster.

Appearing before the board was Damen Castanza appearing for Mr. Joseph Giorgione. I was

here last time. Based upon our discussion last time, Joseph Giorgione reached out to Landtech.

B They have completed a survey map which I believe the board has and that was done in an

attempt to address some of the questions that the board had last time. I would remind the board,

and this is something that is probably clear from the survey map that one of the concerns last time

was the height of the pole barn. The pole barn is at a location where there is at least a 5ft

differential from the height that the house is at to the height where the pole barn is going to be at.

So, when accessing the height that the pole barn will be in comparison to the house, I would only

ask that the board remember that.

The only other thing that I would add in and just in a brief attempt to refresh the boards memory

with regard to the rationale for why Mr. Georgoni wants to do this. Mr. Giorgione was a victim

of the COVID 19 situation. Mr. Georgoni was in a coma for 2 months and has sustained

permanent damage to his lungs as a result of that. As a result of that injury, Mr. Giorgione

business, which is in Ontario, New York, he was really forced to completely cut back on the work

that he used to do there and have done there for more than 20 years. As a result of that, he now

has to rent out most of that property to other businesses that are now in that location because of

the damage done to his lungs he is now looking at the very real likelihood of an early

semiretirement. Beyond that, Mr. Giorgione’s father died last year. Mr. Giorgione father was

a mason throughout his whole life and lived out in the country. He has several, relatively large

pieces of equipment as well as some material related to his lifetime as a mason. Some of those

items that he had he had for his whole life, and they have certainly a significant amount of

sentimental value for Mr. Joseph Giorgione. In that these are the last things that his father left

behind.

So, rather than sell them for whatever worth they may have, including a tractor, Mr. Giorgione

has elected that he wanted to build a small barn on his property to keep some of these things from

his father’s life as well as prepare for the increased amount of time he’s probably going to be

home within the next year or two because of the injuries that he sustained as a result of the COVID

19 infection. I believe now that we have submitted the survey map that the board has requested

and I would only add that at each step of this matter that Mr. Giorgione in the position that he is

in as a resident of Webster has reached out to the staff of the Planning Board and they have

assisted him at every step and if there is any question as to whether or not Mr. Giorgione has

made every effort to comply with everything that has been asked of him in order to get this job

done. ] would ask that the staff certainly be called upon as necessary to talk about the fact that

Mr. Giorgione has been here and has at all times been open to cvery suggestion that has been

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given to him and [ can state, although I am not any seer or predictor of the future that should this

board or should the town have any requests with regard to making this structure something that

would be in compliance and approved by the board so that he can do what he is now required to

do because of his health and because the death of his father. Simply ask it and Mr. Giorgione

will deliver it. That is all |have. Thank you. And the only other thing, chairman is if there are

any negative comments, I would simply as for a short period of time to respond to them. Thank

you.

Anthony Casciani

If I recall, I think the biggest issue we had back when you were in was the

location on the site and how big is the site when we do have the map. You do have...this is quite

nice actually. You've got it engineered right out. You did a nice job with this. The size of the

building and it’s in conformance. Anybody see anything in question?

Derek Anderson

The map definitely clarifies the location and that is all we really needed to see.

Drazen Gasic

Yeah, it identifies the location just one thing missing I think is the access to it

because I think in the aerial, we saw that it was already under construction. So, how access is

coming to the back pole barn. Is it off the existing driveway or how is it being connected.

Anthony Casciani

Are you putting a driveway back to it from the house or....

Damen Castanza

He did and that was upon instruction when he arrived here in November. He

was told that that would be something that he needed to do. Need to put an access. |

Dave Malta

That lot as ] remember is pretty heavily wooded around the perimeter of the lot.

Anthony Casciani

Is it heavily wooded around the....

Damen Castanza

It depends on the season, Mr. Chairman of course.

Anthony Casciani

Is it heavily wooded around the area?

Damen Castanza

It would depend upon the season obviously.

Anthony Casciant

There are trees there.

Damen Castanza

Yes, there is. It is my understanding that it is on both sides of the creck or the

stream. That there is a wooded area.

Anthony Casciani

Ok.

Damen Castanza

That there ts a wooded area.

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Anthony Casciani

Okay, we did receive a letter from Deborah Specsgoul...(not sure of the

spelling) we just got this tonight, and 1 was just glancing through it a little bit and some of your

concerns, your conclusion, I read, reducing the height and excessive footprint. Well, he’s in

conformance with the size of the building, the height of it. You’re wanting to reduce the two

overhead doors. I don’t know what that would be for. They’re 10x

10. It’s a building, why you

needed to have smaller doors, I don’t understand that. Upgrade the look of the...

Damen Castanza

I’m sorry, Mr. Chairman, additionally, because there is no electric in the

structure the doors are large, so there can be some light.

Anthony Casciani

Okay, I’m just looking at what we...

Damen Castanza

I understand sir....

Anthony Casciani

Drainage, your drainage should be okay, it?s on your own property and you’ re

right in the middle of a large parcel. Again, this is a public hearing. I don’t know if there’s

anybody here wishing to speak either for or against. Not seeing anyone....We have your letter,

and I will put the letter into the record. So, we will keep a copy of that. Okay. Anybody have any

concerns or issues with it. I think they’ ve accomplished what we asked for in the site drawing

here.

John Kosel

Is the siding going to match the house.

Damen Castanza

My understanding is that it is black metal. He has a brick house.

Anthony Casciani

Yes, and this is quite a ways in the back there.

Damen Castanza

As it 1s represented on the map.

Anthony Casciani

Alright, move on with it. Nobody wishing to speak so we will close the public

hearing and bring it back up to the board.

Drazen Gasic

Did we get a cross-section view of the pole barn just with the heights how we

typically do to the rooftop and the bottom?

Anthony Casciani

I think when they first came in, he had all that stuff. It’s just he had the

drawings, but we said just this is what we needed to complete it. Ok Derck, do you want to do a

SEQR on this.

Derek Anderson:

The Town of Webster Planning Board considered the request by Applicant Joseph Giorgione to

construct a 1,536 SF pole barn on a 2.7-acre lot located at 895 County Line Road having SBL#

081.01-1-46.

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The Planning Board classifies the proposed action to be a Type IT Action under Section

617.5(c)(12) of the State Environmental Review (SEQR) Regulations and therefore is not subject

to further review.

RESOLUTION 25-0074 Derek Anderson made a motion for TYPE II

SEQR which was seconded by Mark Giardina.

VOTE:

Mr. Casciani AYE

Mr. Malta AYE

Mr. Giardina AYE

Mr. Anderson AYE

Mr. Kosel AYE

Mrs. Maltman ABSENT

Mr. Gasic AYE

RESOLUTION 25-0075 Dave Malta made a _ motion for

PRELIMINARY APPROVAL (PUBLIC

HEARING) Located at 895 County Line

Road associated with the construction of a

1,536 SF metal pole barn on a 2.7-acre lot

having SBL# 081.01-1-46 located in the LL

Large-Lot District under Sections 269-10, E

350-13 and 350-36 of the Code of the Town

of Webster which was seconded by Mark

Giardina.

PRELIMINARY APPROVAL

1. Subject to PRC Comments

2. Subject to the determination of the ZBA for requested variances.

3. All the improvements shall be constructed according to the specification of the Town of

Webster.

4. All roadway construction to be in accordance with the specification and regulations set forth

by the Town of Webster.

5. All sitework is to be in compliance with the standards of the Town of Webster.

6. Preserve all mature trees on site, where possible, and mark said trees by the developer's

engineer prior to the commencing of any site work.

7. Comply with all requirements of any Federal, State, County, or Town agency.

Anthony Casciani

Dave, I prefer you...[ highlighted some stuff that’s in the resolution in the code.

Dave Malta

And the code in it for accessory buildings states that in no case shall the accessory building

exceed 2500 square feet in size. So, it’s definitely under that.

8. Address drainage, lighting, signage, and landscaping, buffering, berming and snow storage.

9. No accessory building shall be higher than the main structure.

10. No circumstances shall the zoning district maximum height be exceeded.

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11. No circumstance shall such building exceed 20 feet in height. Which it doesn’t. And actually,

since it’s lower than the house, it’s...1t goes well with that. [

12. Approvals are subject to Drawing No:____ Dated: AS SUBMITTED

13. Proceed to Final Approval

VOTE:

Mr. Casciani AYE

Mr. Malta AYE

Mr. Giardina AYE

Mr. Anderson AYE

Mr. Kosel AYE

Mrs. Maltman ABSENT

Mr. Gasic AYE

RESOLUTION 25-0076 Anthony Casciani made a motion for

FINAL APPROVAL (PUBLIC

HEARING) Located at 895 County Line

Road associated with the construction of a

1,536 SF metal pole barn on a 2.7-acre lot

having SBL# 081.01-1-46 located in the LL

Large-Lot District under Sections 269-10,

350-13 and 350-36 of the Code of the Town

of Webster which was seconded by Dave

Malta. [

FINAL APPROVAL CHECKLIST

1, Chapter 350 of the Zoning Code of the Town of Webster, 350-26 regarding accessory

buildings and the applicant is in conformance with that part of the code.

2. To be used for personal use only

John Kosel

Do we have to say it’s for personal use only, not for business use or...

Anthony Casciani

Yes, that’s good. You can add that in there too.

VOTE:

Mr. Casciani AYE

Mr. Malta AYE

Mr. Giardina AYE

Mr. Anderson AYE

Mr. Kosel AYE

Mrs. Maltman ABSENT

Mr. Gasic AYE

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Someone speaking from the audience. (audience commenting that they cannot hear anything)

SCHEDULED MATTERS

:

DOCK AND BOAT COVER

Located at 237 Inspiration Point Rd. Applicant Bradley Roehrig

is requesting PRELIMINARY / FINAL SITE PLAN APPROVAL (

PUBLIC HEARING

)

and LWRP CONSISTENCY DETERMINATION associated with the construction of a 200

SF steel dock and 384 SF covered boat lift on a 2.03-acre lot having SBL # 078.13-1-9 located in

the R-3 Single-Family Residential District under Section 350-12, 350-27, 331-4 of the Code of

the Town of Webster.

Appearing before the board was Brad Roehrig. I am looking to, as stated, build a steel dock and

also a boat lift attached to it. The plans are as shown in the documents that were submitted. The

images that were shown and that can be shown again are of the exact same structure built by the

exact same company at 211 Inspiration Point. So, just a couple doors down. So, that’s a real world

picture of exactly what ] am proposing to be built.

Anthony Casciani

In your paperwork, I see you’ve already gotten your permit from DEC, Army

Corps of Engineers. So, you got everything. So, all you are needing now is approval from this

board. That dock, that’s driven down and not a floating.

Brad Roehrig

Yes, that’s correct.

Anthony Casciani

Alright. [ts not excessively long, you’re only what, 50 feet ! think it read.

Brad Roehrig

Correct.

Anthony Casciani

What’s the depth of the water there underneath you?

Brad Roehrig

It varies. It starts off...1 mean during the deep...the deepest water I had some

measurements at the shore, maybe it’s a foot at the end of a proposed 50 foot dock you’re at I

think 54 inches at high water. Right now, it’s much shallower,

Anthony Casciani

Yeah, you don’t even have a whole lot of depth at the end do you.

Brad Roehrig

No. As much as I'd like it longer to be within the regulations it needs to be no

more than 200 square feet so we’re at 50 foot long by 4 foot wide.

Anthony Casciani

Yes, okay. Anybody any questions or anything on this.

Derek Anderson

] just have one question, on the site plan that showed for the setback, | just want

to verify that the setback requirements for the lot are satisfied because the boat dock itself is right

up next to the property line. It looks like the extension of the property line because I’m looking

for a clarification.

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Anthony Casciani

If Tam not mistaken, it just can’t cross the lateral line from the shore, you

know, the lot line going. It has to be inside that line. Am I right, Josh? I think that’s the way it

Josh Artuso

It also has to be minimum of [0 feet from the property line. It looks as though the

dock is 15 feet so that...to allow for the dockage envelope to not cross over the property line. So,

we believe it is consistent with the cade setbacks.

Anthony Casciani

Okay.

Derek Anderson

So, the 15 feet applies to the dock. The covering for the boat lift is allowed to

be within that 15 feet.

Josh Artuso

Correct.

Anthony Casciani

Alight, I don’t have any issues with that. Okay, I just recall it, any docks had

to come in and had to be within the straight line of a lot going out into the water. It had to be

within that range. Anyways, it’s a public hearing so if there is anyone who is here wishing to

speak either for or against. Not seeing anyone, we close the public hearing and bring it back to

the board. We’ve had similar to this come in and we’ve had a lot of them would do it and never

come in so, for what that’s worth, ’'m sure you know.

Dave Malta

That is a first class dock.

Anthony Casciani

It is, absolutely. Okay, we’re all okay with that then why don’t you do a

SEQR on it. Keep it moving.

Derek Anderson:

The Town of Webster Planning Board considered the request by Applicant, Bradley Roehring, to

construct a 200 square foot dock and 384 square foot covered boat lift located at 237 Inspiration

Point Road, o a 2.03 acre lot having SBL #078. 13-1-9,

The Planning Board classifies the proposed action to be a Type II Action under Section

617.5(c)(9) of the State Environmental Review (SEQR) Regulations and therefore is not subject

to further review.

RESOLUTION 25-0077 Derek Anderson made a motion for TYPE II

SEQR which was seconded by John Kosel.

VOTE:

Mr. Casciani AYE

Mr. Malta AYE

Mr. Giardina AYE

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Mr. Anderson AYE

Mr. Kosel AYE

Mrs. Maltman ABSENT

Mr. Gasic AYE

RESOLUTION 25-0078 Anthony Casciani made a motion for

PRELIMINARY APPROVAL (PUBLIC

HEARING) Located at 237 Inspiration

Point Rd. Applicant Bradley Roehrig is

requesting PRELIMINARY SIFE PLAN

APPROVAL (

PUBLIC HEARING

) and

LWRP CONSISTENCY

DETERMINATION associated with the

construction of a 200 SF steel dock and 384

SF covered boat lift on a 2.03-acre lot

having SBL # 078.13-1-9 located in the R-3

Single-Family Residential District under

Section 350-12, 350-27, 331-4 of the Code

of the Town of Webster which was

seconded by Dave Malta.

Anthony Casciani

This project is consistent with Webster Town Code and is also subject to any

PRC comments which may arrive with this and comply with all the requirements of any state,

County, or town agency. That would be preliminary approval. |

I. Subject to PRC comments.

2. Subject to Parks and Recreation fees (if applicable)

3. Subject to Preliminary Approval Conditions.

4. Subject to all applicable governmental

RESOLUTION 25-0079 Anthony Casciani made a motion for

LWRP APPROVAL (PUBLIC

HEARING) Located at 237 Inspiration

Point Rd. Applicant Bradley Roehrig is

requesting LWRP APPROVAL (PUBLIC

HEARING) and LWRP CONSISTENCY

DETERMINATION This falls because of

its proximity to the water, in

the water on the shore of it is require to have

an approval for the LWRP, Local

Waterfront Revitalization Plan. The project

will not detrimentally impact groundwater,

streams, wetlands, flood zones or water

table. And the project will not offend any;

will not affect any threatened or endangered

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species, plants, or wildlife. Therefore, this

project at 237 Inspiration Point is consistent

with the Webster LWRP which was

seconded by Mark Giardina.

VOTE:

Mr. Casciani AYE

Mr. Malta AYE

Mr. Giardina AYE

Mr. Anderson AYE

Mr. Kosel AYE

Mrs. Maltman ABSENT

Mr. Gasic AYE

RESOLUTION 25-0080 Anthony Casciani made a motion for

FINAL APPROVAL (PUBLIC

HEARING) Located at 237 Inspiration

Point Rd. Applicant Bradley Roehrig is

requesting FINAL APPROVAL (PUBLIC

HEARING) and LWRP CONSISTENCY

DETERMINATION associated with the

construction of a 200 SF steel dock and 384

SF covered boat lift on a 2.03-acre lot

having SBL # 078.13-1-9 located in the R-3 |

Single-Family Residential District under

Section 350-12, 350-27, 331-4 of the Code

of the Town of Webster which was

seconded by Mark Giardina.

FINAL APPROVAL CHECKLIST

1. Subject to Preliminary Approval Conditions.

2. Subject to Department of Public Works approval

3. Significant construction shall occur within one year, as deemed by the Planning Board, to expire

on 10.7.2026.

VOTE:

Mr. Casciani AYE

Mr. Malta AYE

Mr. Giardina AYE

Mr. Anderson AYE

Mr. Kosel AYE

Mrs. Maltman ABSENT

Mr. Gasic AYE

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PIRANHA RENTS

Located at Five Mile Line Road in Lowe’s Plaza. Applicant Patrick Young

is requesting SKETCH PLAN REVIEW associated with the construction of a 4,600 SF

equipment rental store, featuring a 41,700 SF gravel storage yard enclosed by a chain link security

fence on a 7.94-acre lot having SBL # 079.10-1-2.1 located in the HC High Intensity Commercial

District under Section 269-5, 350-19 of the Code of the Town of Webster.

Appearing before the board was Rafael Barretto with Marathon Engineering and I am here with

Patrick Young, the owner of Piran Rents. So, we are here for sketch plan approval for an

equipment rental store located on Five Mile Line Road. It currently does not have an address

today. It’s been a vacant lot, and I can give you a little bit of a background about this property.

You will see the Lowe’s that is currently on that road. This was constructed as a larger project

with several other parcels. The ponds that you see on the project have been sized initially with

the intent handling any additional storm water runoff for future projects such as this. We have a

couple of design constraints on this project, and ] am going to kind of go down the list of them in

terms of severity. So, because there is a lengthy easement agreement that exists between our

parcel and the Lowe’s parcel and the other surrounding parcels. That easement agreement has a

lot of dictation on what kind of businesses can be present and most notably where we’re allowed

to make curb cuts into the existing private drive that runs through the lowest part.

So, we are restricted in where we can make driveway cuts to access the site due to that easement

agreement so that’s been one of the key factors in where we’ve decided to put this building and

yard and where we’ ve decided to make our entrances and driveway cuts. The second factor that’s

gone into this has been just conforming with all the zoning regulations. We are at corner lot.

We are fronting two roads. We are fronted by Five Mile Line Road and New York 104, and I

think that’s something worth noting because while we are technically making a driveway cul onto

the private drive that services the Lowe’s parcel, our main entrance is going to be considered the

shared access drive that connects onto Five Mile Line Road. Because we are fronting those two

roads, we have set back our building so that we don’t need any zoning variances. We are

conforming with all setbacks. Another key point that came up and this was a point of note that

was very important as we were looking into this project. There is a FEMA flood plan that is

running through this site. There is a class C creek that runs through that wooded area in the center

and crosses at the culvert at Five Mile Line Road. So, because there is a floodplain, if I can just

expand on what that means, FEMA as a government body essentially performed an extensive

study of this area of the creek. I believe the date was around 2008 and determined that in a 100-

year storm, an extreme storm event, they can expect water levels along that limits of that creek

to reach as high as 400 fect in clevation.

Now, if you were to read the FEMA flood maps, which are provided at no cost, our project, not

nothing in our project actually touches the visual limits that were found in that study. However,

when we went and did a proper survey of the land, we found that there was a small portion of the

site which was above that 400 foot limit. 1 want to show that if | can. Yeah, that little loop there

is our 400 foot elevation and while | think that visually looks like a large area, that is only a

couple of inches below that 400 foot elevation. So, because we are filling in the flood plane, we

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want to perform some compensatory storage in order to....if we're filling in the flood plane, and

we wanl to give back an equivalent volume of storage so that in the event of a large storm event,

that entire flood plane that the storage area is going to contain the same amount of water in it and

we are not going to have anything over topping in an unexpected fashion. And that is what we’re

proposing there. You can see on the northeast existing retention pond where we’ re proposing to

widen...sorry, the northwest, that little blue spot. That’s where we’re going to be widening the

existing detention pond basically just enough just to get that compensatory storage.

And the last large thing of note, before I'll rattle off a couple of the smaller things is wetlands.

So, there was a wetland delineation that was performed a few years ago by Dia lux. There are

formational wetlands on the site. What that means is that the DEC believes that there is a likely

hood of wetland present that they may take jurisdiction over. We’ve been in touch with DEC

through a wetland consultant. They’re going to be on site doing their evaluation within the next

week or so and | think we should have a result or at least a proper determination from them.

There are no exceptions inherent...there are no inherent exceptions for man-made ponds for this

jurisdictional process. So, we have to go through the process with DEC in order for them to

decide whether to take jurisdiction of these ponds or not. These are man-made ponds. It is

required of the owner that they take care of these ponds so that they continue to function for the

benefit of the load site and all the out parcels.

And lastly, just to kind of go through my list. So, all of the ponds that are on the site that we are

draining runoff have already been sized with the intent of a comparable project of this size. So,

we don’t need to provide any extra storage, however we are choosing to provide some green

infrastructure to provide some water quality. That would be the bio retention area that you see |

there as well as the street trees which are matching existing trees within the Lowe’s parcel. Let’s

see here, just to rattle off some last few things. There is going to be building mounted lighting;

store hours are... Patrick, if you can correct me, ! believe it’s from 8 to

5. And there’s going to

be just a trash bin located behind the building. You are not going to see that from the private

drive. The 6 foot security fence is going to be screening everything from the other areas. And

we have enough parking for what is required for the function of the store. There’s about four

employees and we get maybe what three or four at a time maybe. So, I think that was everything

] had on my immediate list. If there were any other questions or concerns that I can respond to,

I'd be happy to hear them.

Anthony Casciani

I have a couple questions actually. You’re saying a 6 foot security fence.

What is the fence? What’s the making of the fence?

Rafael Barretto

ICs going to be a fact chain link fence with vinyl. So, it’s going to be opaque.

Anthony Casciani

A regular chain link, not a solid?

Rafael Barretto

That’s correct.

Anthony Casciani

This area, you know, if you were in the industrial zone, I'd say it probably

wouldn’t be so bad to have something like that. But here, you’ve got, you know, Lowe’s and so

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on so, a little bit different approach. Yeah, there’s fencing there. Personally, I don’t know about

the board I’m just thinking here out loud. If it was some sort of a chain link the rest of the way

around but the front. Josh, ca you go back to that site. Yeah, there you go. The east side and the

part to the south, that little piece there where people drive in, that should be a solid fence, neat,

something to make it look a whole lot better, I think. The back or the west side...

Rafael Barretto

The part that presents to the private drive.

Anthony Casciani

I’m sorry...

Rafael Barretto

The section of the fence that would present to the private drive when you’ re

entering?

Anthony Casciani

Yes, all that front, you know, the running along the road and then the south

section, east west piece, that little...all the way to the south over here. That fencing right in there

on the side, that area right there. That is what you’ll see when you come in and, in my opinion,

there should be a more of a decorative fence of some sort. Something more attractive that a chain

link. The back and the other side, I don’t... that’s pretty much hidden, I don’t think that matters

so much. Just my opinion. What are you using for the parking lot? Is that...

Rafael Barretto

I don’t know if it’s....[ haven’t decided if I’m going to use asphalt or concrete.

I was thinking about doing concrete because the high volume traffic with trailers instead of

wasting money on asphalt.

Anthony Casciani

That’s that whole white area there.

Rafael Barretto

No, the white area is going to be stone. That’s the gravel storage yard.

Dave Malta

What type of equipment are you going to be renting?

Rafael Barretto

The type of equipment runs...we rent compact equipment. Nothing large,

nothing huge. So, it’s small track loaders. So, Piran rents skid steers, track loaders, excavators

and attachments to homeowners and contractors. Some of our equipment, talking about the fence

some of our equipment is actually some of our...] guess representation too, when somebody sees

it, oh, I could use that, I saw that on TV. I want to use that. So, our equipment is part of our

advertisement with our company, but nothing when you think of a rental place, it’s not huge lifts

and obnoxious massive pieces of equipment. We are ina compact world. That’s where we want

to stay in the compact world. We are looking to provide the homeowners and like I said,

contractors.

Anthony Casciani

With equipment back there and vehicles going in and out of there and it’s wet,

invariably, you’re going to have stones and gray matter from the line and out onto the runway.

Onto the roadway. Honestly, I personally would prefer to sec that thing asphalted in there.

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Rafael Barretto

The whole yard?

Anthony Casciani

Yes, as opposed to the gravel.

Rafael Barretto

Okay.

Anthony Casciani

Other than that, I think what you have is a good thing, but I] think there’s some

things that need to conform more to the commercial area, not that industrial, you know what I

mean?

Patrick Young

Yeah, and the big thing is ’'m willing to work with the town, you know, whatever

works for both of us, obviously, you know, financially for me, but ] want to work with the town.

The big thing that we did do in this situation with Marathon, is by making the drive-thru, it’s kind

of a new experience where people load and unload on my own driveway, so I am not disrupting

anybody else in that manner. So, the minimal any of matter like it was stone in the area and you

did drive a piece of equipment out onto my drive-thru and they loaded, like we have equipment

that sweeps the roads just like a street sweeper. But, if the town wants to do something better or

different, fam willing to work with anybody.

Anthony Casciani

I don’t recall but when this was approved originally, that access road around

that’s part of Lowe’s property } believe, isn’t it Josh. Is that the way it was. The parking lot and

all.

Josh Artuso

Yes,

Rafael Barretto

There is a private drive; there is an access easement agreement allowing ...

Anthony Casciani

Ok good, that’s what ] wanted to know.

Rafael Barretto

That is baked into the entire of all parcels.

Anthony Casciani

Ok good.

Derek Anderson

Just following up with that, if you were to pave that whole thing and it changes

the impervious area.

Rafael Barretto

We count the gravel yard as impervious. (CAMERA WAS NOT SHOWING

WHO WAS SPEAKING)

Derek Anderson

And the only other just kind of observation is that on the north side where the

one car is parked right up against the gate, you’d probably want to have some area for the car to

turn around and back out.

Patrick Young

Yes, we are. | think we have one over the required minimum so we could always

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Just stripe that last spot out. (CAMERA WAS NOT SHOWING WHO WAS SPEAKING)

Drazen Gasic

I have a couple questions here. I know it’s only a sketch plan, so maybe some of

these can be incorporated. There was a set of drawing that indicated the building footprint,

ingress, egress doors, wall packs, lighting that don’t match up with the sketch plan. If you

wouldn’t mind just making sure that the building footprint that is being used is reflective in the

site plan drawings, including the lighting plan where the actual! wall packs are going to be. The

actual roof structure of the facility is that being surface discharged...sheet flow to the bioretention

areas or is it piped?

Rafael Barretto

] am planning on it being piped. I believe that is correct. Yes, it will be tied into

the storm sewer and go to the bio retention.

Drazen Gasic

The gates that you are showing, are they manual, automatic?

Patrick Young

I would choose to do automatic for my gates, absolutely.

Drazen Gasic

Because the electrical drawings just indicate the route where you're looking to do

it and which way they’re going to open and close for fire access as well. Primarily vehicles

coming into your yard, is it going to be trailers, tractor trailers to unload? Are you unloading in

the yard or in the front and then taking the equipment in or ....

Patrick Young

The only equipment that will be loaded and unloaded in the yard is my personal

drivers with their trucks and trailers. Other than that, customers will not be in the yard. Customers

will be on the access I call the drive thru.

Drazen Gasic

So, the intention is really for the patrons to kind of load the equipment on at that

point.

Patrick Young

The typical, I guess, if it was the ....to try to infuse what’s going on is you would

pull up with your truck and trailer, someone would greet you, oh, you’re here to get this. That is

why there are 2 gates. There is one at the lower end on the south side of the property and one at

the north side so that one person pulls up, a person would greet them... Yep, no problem, they

would get their piece of equipment out and then they can load it onto their trailer and in the

meantime if there was another person that pulled up, he could be loaded also at the same time so

it didn’t cause any confusion on the drive-thru there.

Drazen Gasic

Just because you have a single form of access there, just consider some signage

you know, one way or something and in the winter time so people know which way they’re

supposed to be going visually, would be helpful. Again, you’re in a !00year flood zone, I

understand that you are kind of regrading it to get yourself a little bil out of it, but the bio retention

component is still indicated in that flood zone. Have you done Geotech with water levels? Are

you keeping the clearance for the bio retention off of the water table.

Rafael Barretto

Yes, we are up above the water table.

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Drazen Gasic

And then | think the last comment that was just said, ] saw the yard. It’s a large

area of yard and you’re going to sheet flow towards that 100 year flood zone in the back...It’s an

8 inch pipe, but it’s a big yard too. 1 was wondering if the 8 inch pipe has been sized for that

volume of water, especially in a flood zone area in case that does get flooded. To make sure that

you're not really sheet flowing anything coming off the equipment into now this flood zone area,

environmental area.

Rafael Barretto

I don’t have size and calcs on me at the moment, but I can certainly provide those

to you.

Drazen Gasic

Not me, the Engineering Department.

Anthony Casciani

Anyone else. Right now, this is just preliminary. I’m sure your preliminary

would have all your details and so on.

Drazen Gasic

Oh sorry, one last question. Just overall signage for the facility. Are you going to

be adding to the signage that’s out in Five Mile Line saying where your business is?

Rafael Barretto

I believe that is correct. We are going to be adding a plate to the existing signage.

Are you?

Patrick Young

Yes, ] would like to add to the sign out that Lowe’s is already currently using that

one and then I do have drawings for the building, and 1 guess the building would be facing east

at that point up in the peak. I would put a nice sign up there and that’s what you know, I think

would be a sufficient enough for it. Like I said, our equipment is kind of our advertising too.

Anthony Casciani

Yeah, we’re good. Right now, is we are just looking at what you are proposing

to build here and then we will get into all the details. Okay, I guess that’s it. Jim, I know you’ re

here. Just a sketch play. Is there anything you wanted to say or just to visit?

(SOMEONE FROM THE AUDIENCE SPEAKING OUT)-Are you going to open it up to the

public. Well, it’s not because it’s not but ] know you’re there and you live right across the street.

If you want, we will absolutely let you.

Jim Kunns and I live across the street from Lowe's on Five Mile Line Road. | certainly would

love to see this business come in, 1 think that it’s a very desirable type of thing to have for

Webster. I have absolutely no objections, | would love to see it happen. However, that being said

asf talked with you, Tony, some time ago and hopefully with Josh, Lowe’s has created...when it

was built a severe water problem for my property across the street, The other properties of

Lowe's doesn’t have to worry about ore projects coming. | see the...) don't know whether it was

dinks and links or whatever and they had, I’m not sure the acreage, whether it was 10 acres and

this is 9.acres and when you say you'd like to see it in asphalt, well right now, we have a situation

where Lowe’s has been closed over the last 20 years, 5 times where the flood came across,

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connected both ponds and Five Mile Line Road was inaccessible. Six inches of water came across

the street and took out one of ny sheds. So, if Lowe’s couldn't handle the situation that it has, it

was closed and came across the road in the year 2000. | have pictures of it and again, I don't

want to put it all on these gentlemen to have to do it but there is a situation there that if. If any

kind of development ever happened on my property, the flood doesn’t go to Lowe's it doesn’t go

east, it doesn't go to 104, it comes across the road and comes to me. So, something needs to be

done in order to mitigate the water situation. If you're talking about, and again, I'm welcome to

have dinks and links. I’m a golfer, I would love to see it. 1 have equipment and I could probably

use one of their items. But something’s got to be done to prevent what's been happening over the

last 20 years to me and I hope it can be done and I hope this board does it. Thanks, Tony.

Anthony Casciani

Okay, | guess with that we are set. Your next step will be coming in with your

paperwork for preliminary approvals. Okay, Thank you.

CARE A LOT SIGN

Located at 369 Phillips Road. Applicant Connor Ewing of Elevated Sign

Solutions is requesting SIGN APPROVAL associated with the replacement of existing double

panel vinyl graphic fagade and monument signs (30 SF facade sign and 21.5 SF monument sign)

for the Care A Lot child care facility on a 2.3-acre parcel having SBL # 050.03-2-23.1 located in

an R-3 Single Family Residential District under Section 265-7 of the Code of the Town of

Webster.

Appearing before the board was Connor Ewing. This proposal is because it used to be Kiddie

Academy, but my customer Care A lot took over that from the previous owners. So, they wanted

to put their new branding up. So, that sign right there is the exact same type of sign that the |

previous customer had it’s just an aluminum panel with vinyl graphics on it. And the other sign

is a...it’s the same thing; it’s an aluminum panel with vinyl graphics on it. The old sign used to

be an illuminated sign box. So, we’re not quite doing as much as the previous tenant there was

doing. So, we removed that old sign box and that’s the idea there. Just flat panel.

Anthony Casiant

So, the new one is not back lit or anything.

Connor Ewing

Correct, it’s non-illuminated. Both of those. 1 think the roadside sign; | think it’s a litle

solar light there that shines up from the bottom.

Anthony Casciani

But again, according to code, it’s not to have the white glaring, you know, from inside.

Connor Ewing

Yes.

Mark Giardina

The numeric sign, that you have the number, the address. For example, if you see the

Kiddie Academy had 369 above, if you could put that above there for your sign

Connor Ewing

Yes, and full transparency, these signs are already up. Care A Lot took over a couple of

weeks ago but didn’t have time (o get the permit. I let them know, that is really not how it goes, but they

told me just to put them up anyway and I did get feedback on the address sign, which the address is up

there in real life. It is right in the center just like Kiddie Academy was.

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Derek Anderson:

The Town of Webster Planning Board considered the request by Applicant, Connor Ewing of

Elevated Sign Solutions to replace an existing 30 sf fagade and 21.5 sf monument sign for Care

A Lot childcare facility located on a 2.3 acre parcel having SBL #050,03-2-23.1.

The Planning Board classifies the proposed action to be a Type If Action under Section

617.5(c)(2) of the State Environmental Review (SEQR) Regulations and therefore is not subject

to further review.

RESOLUTION 25-0081

VOTE:

Derek Anderson made a motion for TYPE II

SEQR which was seconded by Mark Giardina.

Mr. Casciani AYE

Mr. Malta AYE

Mr. Giardina AYE

Mr. Anderson AYE

Mr. Kosel AYE

Mrs. Maltman ABSENT

Mr. Gasic AYE

Anthony Casciani

I was just looking at the paperwork; you gave us tonight here and it does

show the address on it.

Connor Ewing

Yes, I apologize. There was a lot of back and forth with my customer on these

layouts. So, ] apologize J didn’t get you the updated one.

Anthony Casciani

That can be pul onto the existing sign.

Connor Ewing

It is on the existing sign.

RESOLUTION 25-0082

John Kosel made a motion for SIGN

APPROVAL (

PUBLIC HEARING

)

Located at 369 Phillips Road. Applicant

Connor Ewing of Elevated Sign Solutions is

requesting SIGN APPROVAL associated

with the replacement of existing double

panel vinyl graphic fagade and monument

signs (30 SF fagade sign and 21.5 SF

monument sign) for the Care A Lot child

care facility on a 2.3-acre parcel having SBL

# 050.03-2-23.1 located in an R-3 Single

Family Residential District under Section

265-7 of the Code of the Town of Webster

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which was seconded by Mark Giardina. .

SIGNAPPROVAL CHECKLIST i

|. Both signs to be non-lit.

VOTE:

Mr. Casciani AYE

Mr. Malta AYE

Mr. Giardina AYE

Mr. Anderson AYE

Mr. Kosel AYE

Mrs. Maltman ABSENT

Mr. Gasic AYE

ADMINISTRATIVE ITEM

No minutes were approved.

With no other applications before the Board this evening Anthony Casciani concluded tonight’s

meeting at 8:00 PM.

espectfully Submitted,

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Mark Giardina, Secretary

Katherine Kolich, Recording Secretary -Typed minutes 11.10.25 [

DEC 3°25 aM10:27

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