WEBSTER PLANNING BOARD MINUTES
Webster Town Board Meeting Room 1002 Ridge Road
7:00 p.m.
3 March 2026
ABSENT:
Anthony Casciani, Chairman Peggy Maltman
Mark Giardina, Secretary
Dave Malta, Vice Chairman
Derek Anderson
Drazen Gasic
Sven Vetter
Katherine Kolich, Recording Secretary
Josh Artuso, Director of Community Development
Erika Corsi, Town Planner
Frank Ciardi, Attorney
Welcome to the Planning Board meeting of March 3, 2026. We have quite a
lengthy agenda this evening, so bear with us. We'll get through it okay. Before we start, I
would like to welcome Sven Vetter, who is a new member of our board. Welcome aboard.
Pledge of Allegiance/Roll Call
On the agenda and I don’t know if you saw it yet, we have two different
phases of Aberdeen Estates, Phase 2 and Phase
3. Apparently, Phase 3 is going to be tabled.
Okay, so we are tabling Phase 3 to what, April 7° Planning Board meeting and also there’s been
an error. Hopefully nobody’s here for these two. Best Buy Auto Sales and Waterview. Both of
those projects were not published in the paper. There was a misprint in the Webster Herald and
those two just didn’t get in there. So, sorry to say that we have to table those also to the April 7
meeting. So, there are three tabled items that will not be heard this evening.
Summary overview of outcome:
TABLED MATTERS
:
1. ABERDEEN ESTATES-PHASE 2
FOREST CREEK EQUITY CORP.
APPROVED WITH CONDITIONS:
e No permits shall be issued until all Engineering comments have been addressed
and deemed complete by the Town of Webster Engineering Department.
e All downspouts to be connected to storm sewer, Approved Engineer Estimate with
Engineering & Inspection fees for a LOC, Engineering Certification of project built
to plan.
I. Subject to PRC comments.
2. Subject to Parks and Recreation fees (if applicable)
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Subject to Preliminary Approval Conditions.
Subject to all applicable governmental fees.
Subject to Department of Public Works approval
Significant construction shall occur within one year, as deemed by the
Planning Board, to expire on 3.3.27.
The conditions of Preliminary and Final approval are depicted on the cover
page of the final designed plans.
8. The Engineer for the proposed project shall provide a Letter of Certification
that all proposed work was completed, as per Planning Board resolution of
final approval before a Certificate of Occupancy will be issued.
9. A Letter of Credit to the Town for the project shall include the fee for the
Engineer’s final certification inspection of the site.
10. All storm water facilities are to be constructed first
11. All downspouts to be connected ta the starm sewer svstem,
12. Subject to resolution of the final approved minutes.
13. Approvals are subject to Drawing No: Dated: JANUARY 13, 2026
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2. ABERDEEN ESTATES-PHASE 3
FORES | CREEK EQUIi Y CORP.
APPLICATION TABLED
SCHEDULLD MATTERS:
3. DINKS & LINKS 912 FIVE MILE LINE
JOE CATTALANI
FEEDBACK PROVIDED:
Applicant required to obtain and provide NYS DEC Permits for preliminary review phase.
4. BEST BUY AUTO SALES-771 RIDGE RD
BEST BUY AUTO SALES
DUE TO PUBLICATION ERROR, THIS APPLICATION WILL BE HEARD
AT THE APRIL MEETING.
5. WATERVIEW PHASE 3-WILLOWPOINT WAY
LEGACY DEVELOPMENT Co.
Status. DUE TO PUBLICATION ERROR, TINS APPLICATION WILL BE IIEARD
AT'THE APRIL MEETING.
6. VERIZON-LAKE RD & MONROE
ROBERT BURGDORF
FEEDBACK PROVIDED:
e Evaluate alternative locations on the same property that are situated farther west of
County Line Road.
Consider whether the portion of the property located in Wayne County is suitable for the
proposed use as an alternative location.
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BAY-RIDGE REALLOTMENT SUBDIVISION
SCOTT MEASDAY, LS
FEEDBACK PROVIDED:
Submit an updated subdivision map showing the location of all utilities.
Show and clearly label all existing and proposed septic systems and water lines on
the plans.
Provide separate utility connections for each lot.
Establish and document driveway access easements for Lot 4 and Lot
5. Coordinate with Monroe County Health Department to confirm that the existing
leach fields is fully contained within the lot on which it’s located.
7 BREW-HARD RD
Applicaut, DOUG BEACHEL
FEEDBACK PROVIDED:
Consider revising the pavement striping colors so they are clearly distinguishable
from the ADA-required blue striping.
Extend the pedestrian striping to provide a continuous conncction to the dumpster
enclosure.
Indicate the designated snow storage areas on the plans,
Consider incorporating light-dimming controls for the corporate lighting
fixtures.
Applicant to address PRC Comments dated 2/24/26.
DENTAL OFFICE-1037 RIDGE RD
TERRY GIANGRECO
FEEDBACK PROVIDED:
The applicant must identify and clearly mark all trees to remain prior to the start of
construction.
Consider revising the site layout by switching the locations of the parking lot and
the building to increase available drainage area.
SWPPP to be completed.
( Mark Giardina read each application into the record)
ABERDEEN ESTATES PHASE 2: Located at Hazelhead Lane. Applicant Forest Creek Equity
Corp. is requesting FINAL SITE PLAN AND SUBDIVISION APPROVAL in association with
the development of 20 single-family residential lots on a 17.10-acre parcel having SBL# 050.02-1-
23.11 located in the R-3 Single Family Residential District under Section 269-10, Section 296-18
and Section 350-12 of the Code of the Town of Webster.
Appearing before the board was Jared Hirt with Evans Fox on behalf of Forest Creek Equity Corp.
and I’m here with Walt Baker, the Engineer. (NOT LOUD ENOUGH AND CUTS OUT) As the
budid is aWaie We uppedied before the boaid ia Debruaiy aad there Weie suite Commmelils and
feedback from the board which we took to hear. and we did have a chance to meet with some of
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the members of the town to discuss some of their concerns and issues. We have submitted revised
plans to the board. We've received comments back from the Engineer and PRC. I believe we’ ve
at a point now where we’re requesting indicated final for Phase 2 and we are tabling Phase
3. So, that being said, I open it up to the board for any questions, comments, and concerns that they
may have.
Weil, | think we’ ve hammered this thing around so much. Mark, did you guys
have anything? I know you had some concerns.
We have comments.
Sure, go ahead.
Do you want me to read them all?
Well, have you given them....have both of you received the list of comments?
They got them, right. So, if you want to address them quickly or whatever.
We've addressed all the comments that I’m aware of today in writing.
We ve received some substanual ones allerwards trom....
And you’ve sent them back.
That’s correct. Oh no, they’ve not sent anything back. We don’t have responses
to the comments. Our latest set of comments.
So, how....... well, we very well can’t move forward with it.
(NEEDS TO BE IN FRONT OF THE MIC) We just received them last week.
The comments that we received, all of the substantive issues that were addressed at the
last hoard meeting have been addressed For example. there was a discussion regarding a
conservation easement that was requested by the town which we sat with the members of the town
and essentially hashed out what that would look like and set forth in the plans 25 toot wide
conservation that would run along the easterly boundary line of the property. There were some
other comments that were set forth that you recall regarding setting specific heights with regard to
foundations, and something along that which have all been addressed. The rest of the comments
that remain as of right now are just, in my opinion, they're more technical in nature.
Well, they’re technical but they're substantial regards to the storm water.
(SOMEONE MUMBLING)
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What do you feel we should be doing?
They need to address our comments.
At this point, why can’t we approve it with conditions? We’ve gone through this now
three times. So, we've addressed all the..........
Okay, suppose we give final approval for the phase two and no work, or
anything is commenced until all comments have been addressed by the applicant. Will that work?
Okay?
It’s just going to make....I just wanted to contend that it will make the pre mylar
process longer than what von exnected
That’s fine.
And they have a list of the comments?
To my knowledge, they do.
{he comments are just set forth in your email trom last week, correct.
We have a comment letter dated on the 24"...
I just wanted to make sure that I wasn’t missing something.
I'd also like you not to downplay what our comments are.
It wasn’t my intent in doing that. So.
(NOT CLOSE ENOUGH TO THE MIC OR SPEAKING LOUD ENOUGH)
Keep....just so that they address the right part there. Is there comments just related to phase two
and phase three or are they kind of intesral?
Nope, we've separated them out into phase two and phase three.
The only,...thank you for adding a conservation easement. That was really
appreciated. Um, just not being privy to the discussion on the 25 foot with the rear setback being
50 feet. Is there a reason that it wasn’t 50 fool as a conservation easement back.
In terms of what you say, why wasn’t the conservation 50 feet?
Yes
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We’ ve tried to and you can speak more to this but we....yeah, we tried to address it
in terms of what our clear line was and have it in conjunction with that. So, okay.
The only thing that...(NOT SPEAKING LOUD ENOUGH OR USING THE
MIC)
Alright, then let’s do this. Why don’t we grant tinal approval tor phase two of
Aberdeen Estates and make that, well, we will go through our generic schedule here but: No
permits shall be issued until all Engineering comments have been addressed and deemed
complete by the Town of Webster Engineering Department. Will that work?
Yes, as long as we can make reference to...there’s a February 24" email that was sent
tous that included the camments and concerns that
Whatever the comments are that you guys....... they can work that out with
Keith.
So, it should not be limited just to that letter though because if you....if you for
example provide a response back but engineering has more comments on those response it
should not be just limited to that one it should be limited to until engineering is fully satisfies.
How about we just say issues germane to the letter.
Okay, we make that and along with that we’ ll make that:
Subject to PRC comments.
Subject to Parks and Recreation fees (if applicable)
Subject to Preliminary Approval Conditions.
Subject to all applicable governmental fees.
Subject to Department of Public Works approval
Significant construction shall occur within one year, as deemed by the Planning
Board, toexpire on 3.3.27.
7. The conditions of Preliminary and Final approval are depicted on the cover page
of the final desigiied plats.
8. The Engineer for the proposed project shall provide a Letter of Certification that
all proposed work was completed, as per Planning Board resolution of final
approval before a Certificate of Occupancy will be issued.
9. A Letter of Credit to the Town for the project shall include the fee for the
Engineer’s final certification inspection of the site.
10, All storm water facilities are to be constructed first
it. All downspouts to be connected to the storm sewer system
12. Subject to resolution of the final approved minutes.
13. Approvals are subject to Drawing No: Dated: January !3, 2026.
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FINAL APPROVAL CHECKLIST
e No permits shall be issued until all Engineering comments have been addressed
and deemed complete by the Town of Webster Engineering Department.
e All downspouts to be connected to storm sewer, Approved Engineer Estimate with
Engineering & Inspection fees for a LOC, Engineering Certification of project
built to plan.
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Subject to PRC comments.
Subject to Parks and Recreation fees (if applicable)
Subject to Preliminary Approval Conditions.
Subject to all applicable governmental fees,
Subject to Department of Public Works approval
Significant construction shall occur within one year, as deemed by the Planning
Board, to expire on 3.3.27.
ihe CONUILIONS U1 Prelimanary and butval approval are depicted On ihe cover Page
of the final designed plans.
8. The Engineer for the proposed project shall provide a Letter of Certification that
all proposed work was completed, as per Planning Board resolution of final
approval before a Certificate of Occupancy will be issued.
9. A Letter of Credit to the Town for the project shall include the fee for the
Engineer's final certification inspection of the site.
10. All storm water facilities are to be constructed first
11. All dowispuuls dy be Couiected tu the stor: sewel sy stoi.
12. Subject to resolution of the final approved minutes,
13. Approvals are subject to Drawing No: Dated: January 13, 2026.
RESOLUTION 26-005 Anthony Casciani made a motion for
FINAL SITE APROVAL Located at
Hazelhead Lane. Applicant Forest Creek
Equity Corp. is requesting FINAL SITE
PLAN APPROVAL in association with the
development of 20 single-family residential
lots on a I7.!0-acre parcel having SBL#
050.02-1-23.11 located in the R-3 Single
Family Residential District under Section
269-10, Section 296-18 and Section 350-12
of the Code of the Town of Webster.
which was seconded by Dave Malta.
= Mr. Casciani AYE
Mr. Malta AYE
Mr. Giardina AYF
Mr. Anderson AYE
Mrs. Maltman ABSENT
Mr. Gasic AYE
Mir. Vetter AYE
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ABERDEEN ESTATE PHASE 3: Located at Hazelhead Lane. Applicant Forest Creek Equity
Corp. is requesting FINAL SITE PLAN AND SUBDIVISION APPROVAL in association with
the development of 36 single-family residential lots on a 52.44-acre parcel having SBL# 050.02-1-
23.11 located in the R-3 Single-Family Residential District under Section 269-10, Section 296-18,
and Section 350-12 under the Code of the Town of Webster.
APPLICANT REQUESTED THAT THE APPLICATION BE ‘TABLED.
Located at Five Mile Line Road. Applicant Joe Cattalani is requesting
SKETCH PLAN REVIEW AND SUBDIVISION APPROVAL in association with the
development of an approximately 39,100 SF indoor/outdoor recreation facility on a 9-acre parcel
having SBL# 079.10-1-1.11 and SBL# 079.10-1-2.3 located in the HC High-Intensity Commercial
District under Section 769-5 Section 9796-14 and Sectinn 350-19 of the Cade of the Town of
Webster.
Appearing before the board was Joe Cattalani. Hello again. I was before you folks 6 months ago,
{ think in August our last meeting which went fairly well. I had to go through the DEC process
which was a bit time consuming a little shorthand there. In any event, we did finally get through
that process January 8". They told us that we need to develop a solid part of the road. So, over the
next week we submitted to the Planning Board of what that would look like went to ownership from
class LLC to kind of swap land around and the subdivision around so that 1t would work on the
south part which we were able to make work.
The town came back with some comments with respect to where the building would go, where the
parking lot would go, and where the field would go and we were able to make that work. So, all of
that was submitted in early February when the DEC asked for a specific map with wetland
disturbances laid out for the permit. We submitted that in early February and we met. So, the
building has moved around a little bit, and everything is on the south side of the road which actually
works out better from standpoint of people crossing the road. Now the parking is right up there
next to the building. There’s nobody crossing the roads anymore and the handicap parking is right
there instead of being, you know, on the side of the building. It seems to work out a little bit better.
We size the building down to 12 courts fram 14 to 40.000 square feet
SOMEONE FROM THE BOARD MUMBLING. CAN NOT HEAR AT ALL.
(CAN NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT IS BEING SAID) USED CLOSED
CAPTIONING AND SOME OF IT STILL DOESN’T SHOW WHAT IS BEING SAID)
Relocating the drive that goes around the parking lots.............
Now that’s where you have that, that is the only place that we could put that road.
Number one, it delivers right to our parking lot and number two, there’s two problems. One there’s
a small out parcel that was granted to whoever buys that paree! that’s up in that orange area that |
gave you guys and so if you cul into that. that parcel becomes without value and then on the right
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side, the DEC did not want us to go into the wetland. And it worked out anyways because it come
tight down to the main curb cut into out building. Since the plans the you haver, we’ ve again spoke
with Keith and Josh about taking out the center curb cut and making cross through traffic so that
there’s only two curb cuts which is in the process of being done and there’ll be across the top as
well as the bottom and will do six _ ,but we'll stillbe_
Did you recetve the comments and questions and addressed them all’?
1 have.
And the town....you are good with all this Josh? Not going to go through them
all.
Yeah, I think when he goes to submit for preliminary stage that those comments will
be reflected. So, yeah, this just being a sketch plan.
Okay. All right, anybody have any questions.
So, | just want to check. So, the PRC comments had a comment about the proposed
loop road. Does this drawing reflect what was intended in the PRC comments.
Yes.
That's going across the north. North edge of the property around the back and
then it cuts back south into the property there.
J mentioned Black Cherry Boulevard extension. Is that something....
That’s something that was from years ago and when St. Ann’s was built if you
are familiar with Black Cherry Lane, it ends at the fence, right and the intent of that was to run a
roadway from there and across the parking jot in that general area of Lowe’s and the town at the
time had obtained a cul permit from New York State to put an exit right on to
104. It was a particular
area. vou know. anta the feeder similar to like 1p in the village there Rut [don’t know what’s ening
to happen with that now. And Black Cherry was actually built the town standards on that road at
the time. That's neither here or there but does anybody have any questions? ‘This again is a sketch.
We have done through it, and we have address the comments from PRC and so on.
I just have one more question. So, St. Ann’s on the southwest side, is that considered
non-residential because the buffer would to 75 feet instead of 50 feet on the south side.
It is a multi-high density residential district.
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Alright. We did receive one letter from Dorothy Fait. She had some concerns
on the project and...for the record, what we’ll do is we will enter that into the record, and it can be
addressed for preliminary approval.
Well, it’s not a public hearing, that’s the next one. But you know what, if you’ve got a comment,
we'll let you address it. Just come up and give us your name and address.
(audience member speaking) I’m sorry I'm late to this. I had some health issues so now....
Why don’t you give us your name, please.
Sean Whipple (DID NOT SIGN IN): I own 898 Ridge Road and that’s the Sunset Valley
manufactured hame cammunity TF don’t want to sav that Pm opnased ta this nraiect hut T have
some concerns being that the project butts right up to my community. For those of you that don’t
know Sunset Valley, it's a 55 plus senior citizen community. | am registered with the state, and I
have 53 homes sites in there. The average resident's age is 72 years old. I know pickle ball is very
popular and all, but this could really adversely affect my residents and my community the proximity
of the pickle ball courts. And | would like the town to take into consideration the layout of this
project and then along...... in between my community and the proposed project, there is some storm
drainage that the water comes off BJ’s parking lot and runs across the back of my property and
then u goes behind St. Ann s. ltdoesn t effect St. Ann s because that § the physical plant and then
the water dumps into a retention pond behind Lowe's. The problem is with this development how
it lays out it’s pretty much on top of that storm drain and I’m concerned with flooding and then on
my eastern boundary line | have a storm drain that runs the whole way down the eastern boundary
line and I don’t know if you can pull up 898 Ridge Road....
Well, look, we got a Jong agenda...So, this wasn’t a public hearing. I just
wanted you to......if you want, do this, why don’t you put it all down on a document, put a letter to
us and give it to us. So, when he comes in for his preliminary approval, which is a public hearing
at that time when anybody can speak and then we can address it correctly at that time.
Okay, great. That would be great.
FEEDBACK PROVIDED:
¢ Applicant required to obtain and provide NYS DEC Permits tor preliminary
review phase
Located at 771 Ridge Road. Applicant Allan Mallette
is requesting PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN APPROVAL (
PUBLIC HEARING
) in association
with the construction of an approximately 2,826SF accessory structure for auto-mobile servicing
on a 1.73-acre parcel having SBL# 079.17-1-21.11 located in the MC Medium-intensity
Commercial District under Section 269-11 and Section 350-18 of the Code of the Town of Webster.
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DUE TO PUBLICATION ERROR, THIS APPLICATION WILL BE HEARD AT
THE APRIL MEETING.
WATERVIEW PHASE 3: Located at 0 Willowpoint Way. Applicant Legacy Development Co.
is requesting FINAL SITE PLAN APPROVAL EXTENSION associated with the proposed
construction of six (6) two-story townhouse style buildings consisting of a total of 56 residential
units and one (1) community center on a 13.5-acre parcel having SBL#s U93.06-3-64.11 and
093.06-3-64.12 located in an MHR Medium High Residential District under Sections 269-17 of
the Code of the Town of Webster.
DUE TO PUBLICATION ERROR, THIS APPLICATION WILL BE HEARD AT
THE APRIL MEETING.
Located at 423, 425 & 429 Ridge Rd and 1036 Bay
Rd. Applicant Scott Measday, LS. is requesting SKETCH PLAN REVIEW in association with a
proposed re-subdivision of 5-single-family residential lots on 2.5-acres having SBL# 078.18-2-9,
SBL# 078. 18-2-10.2, SBL# 078. 18-2-10.1, SBL# 078. 18-2-11.11 and SBL# 078.18-2-11.2 located
in the R-3 Single Family Residential District under Section 296-19 and Section 350-12 of the Code
of the Town of Webster.
Appearing belore the board was (NEVER SIAIED HIS NAME NOR WAS I)
ASKED) really what we are seeking is basically just a glorified lot line adjustment.
The reason we’re here is because it is five lots and it’s remaining five lots. Our goal here is to make
these five lots that are already severely non-comphant a little less non-compliant.
As you can see on the plans there are a lot of buildings that are very over the line, over most of the
boundary lines including one building that’s 20 feet over the current boundary line. Some of these
buildings, including 425 and 429 Ridge, have existed on Ridge Road since it existed as a trolley
line in the 1800's. 1036 Bay Road on lot 4 is one of the older buildings as well. The other buildings
were constructed sometime in the 40’s and 50’s and all five lots were in the same ownership all the
way back to the 40's and 50’s and just recently, as of last year, sold to a new owner, all five lots
and the new owner wants to rectify some of the issues that are at hand.
Are these hooked to the sewer system or are they on separate?
So, 429, 425, and 423 Ridge Road all have independent sewer hookup to the town
system, independent water, electric, and gas utilities. 1036 has it’s own hookups to the system
to....they have a leech field directly adjacent to what would be the right side or the south side of
the house and then they have public utilities feeding that. Really the only utility concern is with
1036A. 1036A was built originally built as a guest house and so the utilities have tapped into 1036.
The utilities, the gas and the electric do have individual meters that run to two or 1036A. So
1036A’s gas and electric meters do reside in the basement of 1036 alongside the 1036 meters.
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You are confusing me. Are they combine or not. Do they al! have there own
services.
1036A does not have it’s own water service. 1036A their water is a uniform system
from 1036.
Okay, in my opinion, that needs to be rectified. ‘hat should have it’s own it
you're putting them on separate lots. Each one should have it’s own entity.
They actually already are on separate lots.
I know, but the water should be a service going to there directly metered on that
unit not fram the front That’s mv thinking anvwave
The thing is, currently lot 4 and 5 are being sought after to be purchased together as
basically one sale. There is somebody interested in those two lots that would like to buy them and
still keep them, you know, adjacent to each other but own them together much like they are
currently owned.
It’s looking like you want your cake and eat it too. Each one should be a separate
jot. Correct? Each one wall be tt's own separate lot.
Yes
And each one of those lots should have it’s own independent service-servicing
that lot. That’s my opinion anyways. I don't know of any other situations in town otherwise.
Anybody?
Dave Malta’ (CAN NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT IS BEING SAID, USED CLOSED
CAPTIONING) I mean, you’ re saying that the water service come from 1036 and it goes to 1036A,
right,
That is correct
So, what you're going to sell off [036 and the other lot next to it.
So, basically, they’re on their own individual lots currently.
Yeah, I understand. The service is unrelated to 1036A. It’s going to be different
Owlels.
No, Where they're going, where they’ re being sold, those two lots are going to the same
OWiler,
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Suppose down the road he decides to sell one of them on a separate lot.
So, that could be a legal binding...
Well, how about we make it now? Make that one of the conditions now. I
mean, that’s standard procedure. You develop a lot, you have to have water, sewer, gas, electric,
you know and if there’s septic tanks. We did receive one letter, and I'll just quickly read it from
Mr. Pat Zan. (SEE Ait LACHED LETTER) So, he has legitimate questions he’s asking here. In
my opinion, something like this needs to be reviewed. I’m okay with what you’re doing, and I
understand what you’re doing, but each lot I believe should have it’s own services going to it and
the health department should probably be checking the septic tanks on those places back there.
They have probably been in there from the 1900’s. And this gentleman’s obviously concerned
because he is aware of the septic, so I don’t know if they’ re functioning properly or not. So, I believe
that should he checked hy Monroe County Health also
Okay. I mean we did check that they do exist and there’s no plan to change them and
their location is a significant distance from any proposed line.
You would need several variances and I’m okay with that. You know,
accomplish your goal, | can see that, but I believe you really need to have each one have it’s own
utilities, all utilities and individual to each unit and Monroe County Health check the septic systems
and make sure they are lunctioning properiy and then that would trigger a response, you know,
whether they need to be changed or whatever by the county because that’s who controls that.
Tony | would agree with you. | mean, it's a unique scenario where the subdivision
is occurring in existing lots. In this case, utilities like septic tanks and septic leech filed location
should be identified; water lines and electrical lines; on it as well because leach fields themselves
would ave to have a setback from the property lines. So, it’s almost going to be a check to make
sure that the proposed lot line are set back far enough from the leech fields too.
Do you have to do a SEQR on this?
CAN NOT HEAR.
For 1036A does that have its own septic system?
Yes, it does.
(CAN NOT HEAR WHEN SPEAKING, USED CLOSED CAPTIONING) So,
that’s separate from the septic system on 1036.
That's correct.
You stared cartier talking about the micters for 103GA. Those aie actually you
said, both the gas and electric and water are Jocated in the basement of 1036.
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Yes. So, the basement at 1036 has a singular water meter for both 1036 and 1036A. It’s
a joint water system. But then there are two sets of gas meters and two sets of electric meters in the
basement of 1036.
(USED CLOSED CAPTIONING) They all would have to be separated.
Independent gas services, independent electric service, independent water service, no collocation
property. You don tknow. We re also going to have to find out how you have access back to the
property.
Well, there’s...as far as...you mean driving access, they have their own existing curb
cuts and driveways as it is.
But in the even von were to sell whoever owns that house in the hack there
Right there Josh, yeah. That access is from the other side and from Bay Road. That would need
some sort of an easement from those properties in the event something got sold down the road,
right? So, that should all be in place.
Now, does 1036 say that parcel actually L-shaped?
Yes
So, that’s all one big parcel.
So....
(USED CLOSED CAPTIONING) (Winds up having the residential house on it
the black and metal garage also has the metal barn and steel shed on it.
Yes
(USED CLOSED CAPTIONING) So those are things that we'll be seeking
variances from.
Yes, we have....
(USED CLOSED CAPTIONING) Access to the one in the back comes off of the
road to the south. Ideally, you probably want to get rid of the driveway into 1036 parcel too so that
you don’t have feeding both ways of single parcel. But the key is that they’re really both of those
parcels really need to have independent gas, electric and sewer services............ that do not rely
Si). . rage that’s actually... 02... T agree with Drazen this particular area we don’t know where the
separate system is. It should clearly show the layout of the septic system on the sites how the
various things tied into it and also demonstrate how it’s going to be corrected independent services.
Tthink ......, before you actually show i, DP think what they should do is be
contacting Monroe County Health Department and make sure they’re even functioning. Don’t even
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located, We don’t even care where it is right now . You know, we got to know that they’re
functioning first of all, then locate it .
Trying to verify that they truly are.
Anthony Casciani; And any crossing, you know, property lines. You’re going to need a bunch of
variances and understood that.
Yes, we know that.
That will fix it up. I have no issues with that. But the driveway that go into the
back and you're crossing that front one on Bay Road, that should have an easement across the
property and that should be written richt in these
Well, currently they’re all owned by the same person.
They are separate lots. J don’t care who owns them all. There’s one builder that
can own them. One builder can own them all, but when he goes to sell them, that’s where the issue
comes in. So, rather than mess with it then or get oversold, | think the time to correct it is right now.
sven Vellter: (NOL SPEAING LOUD ENOUGH, USED CLOSED CAPTIONING) I one person
is wants to purchase both of those properties, why can’t they be combined now and satisfy a tot of
the issues they have.
Basically, we’d have to get the zoning variances to allow for multiple residences on one
property. Is that what you’re suggesting?
Yeah, there’s no good reason to do that now,
It was one of the things 1 was wondering as well.
Alright. Why don’t we do this, why don’t you, when you come in for
preliminary approval. come in showing the lots as vou’re showing them. Something from Monroe *
County that the septic system is functioning properly from Monroe County Health, show any cross
lots how you're proposing to cross them, how you would get an easement be granted, and | don't
know the lot numbers I can’t’ see. Lot number 4 is that the one in the front there.
Yes
Okay, they need to grant an casement across lot number 4 to get to....what’s the
lot in the back...Lot
5. Okay, so I think that’s the things that need to be shown on the drawing.
Okay. Emean, if they decided to puta fence up over that piece of driveway then access
has been eliminated as well.
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Well, I’m looking at the drawing, and it shows access going to the right and you
need to take it off the drawing if you are not going to have it there.
Okay, I’m just coming up with some options to give the owners.
These are the options.
Yes
Locate septic and water lines so that we know what they are.
Each one separate water line too.
Is that main concern really with four and lots four, five and six ....
Each one, five lots need to have five separate utilities going in there.
Yeah, we do know, like | said, that the three out on Ridge do have separate utilities.
That’s fine. Then the ones, those there, need to be separated going back, lot
ive.
Okay.
: (USED CLOSED CAPTIONING) I think the thing to keep in mind; this is still
an existing subdivision but effectively resub divide and the drawing should have a level of detail of
a subdivision for all the parcels. Not picking choosing the parcels. Access easements, utility
locations, anything you expect to see.
Okay, so you want them on all five.
Walter Wirlo at 1048 Bay Road: (NOT SPEAKING LOUD ENOUGH, USED CLOSED
CAPTIONING) I'm the owner of the property next daor, The cancern | have is the creek that runs
through the middle of this property. And when Mr. Morowski owned the property back then, Elmer
Living who lived behind me is deceased, told me that he wanted to put a house there and the town
requested he had special septic system because he’s in proximity close to the creek. He decided
notto build a house because that was a concern of the....back then. And they had put the driveway
that goes along the person I think it was Mr. ....... who owned the house that | had before that I
purchased. He used to own that property and also some of the property that he sold to Elmer behind.
When he sold that property, there's a driveway was right along the side anid originally the house
was a ranch house with no garage. He came down that driveway and parked in the basement. So,
aty house has a drive in basement. When he sold the property to Morowski, he asked that they get
rid of that driveway because itivas in very close proximity of the property linac. £ don't kiow if it’s
legal as it is or you know, it meets the zoning standards. To answer his concern, Mr. Morowski
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just planted a bunch of pine trees along the side there to try and hide it, but the sons were in the
excavating business. So, they had equipment, you know, they could change things, whatever. And
they kept rebuilding that drive to the point where it was a little bit higher and on one side of my
house, because of all that grounds that runs down towards the creek, I get flooding all the time. At
one pint he put a culver... don’t know if he did put a culver just put some stones in there like a
French drain, silver drain but it doesn't work anymore. And I remember Mr............ at one point
his property used to get flooded because his property was in the back property because that creek
went back up because the culver that they had put in to drive across the properties get filled with
debris and so that would create a problem for him flooding and he was a nice guy and didn’t
address the issue because he didn’t want any problems with these things. So, but that's one of the
CONCEINS T HAVEL... cece cee eceeeec eee creek and whatever septic system they put in has to comply
with ....that goes into the bay.
Okay, thank you. Actually, probably you should do that also, then it’s check the
stream, it should be checked and cleared. 1 don’t know. Who would do that Mark? Do you guys
do that or what?
Well, we'd have to understand if it’s private or public drainage. 1 don’t know.
: (NOT SPEAING LOUD ENOUGH, USED CLOSED CAPTIONING) Well,
that’s where this uning has lo have a subdivision. You know, show how uulities includes. .....that
all has to be shown how it’s....no different than any other subdivision. It just happens to have
buildings already.
(NOT SPEAKING LOUD ENOUGH, USED CLOSED CAPTIONING) I thought
there were for sale signs over there, wasn’t it? Just recently sold.
Yes, it was sold in the fall.
(NOT SPEAKING LOUD ENOUGH, USED CLOSED CAPTIONING) Was it the
buildings as well or was it just acres? | thought it was a sign that said land.
No, it was 2.7 acres. It consists of all of this cuz J did all the survev work in the fall for
this. So, it is everything you see here. And then we just manipulated the lot lines to try to do the
best we could clearing the buildings,
Okay, why don’t we do this. Probably just cut to the chase on it. Have your
engineer design this thing like it was a subdivision without the houses. Called a regular new
subdivision and answer all the things that Derek just mentioned. Just like a regular subdivision
coming in. Any steams on there; water flow; the drainage off the site and so on and so forth. Then
that along with Monroe County checking it and utilities being separate utilities going in, okay.
Okay.
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FEEDBACK PROVIDED:
Submit an updated subdivision map showing the location of all utilities.
e Show and clearly label all existing and proposed septic systems and water lines on
the plans.
Provide separate utility connections for each lot.
Establish and document driveway access easements for Lot 4 and Lot
5. Coordinate with Monroe County Health Department to confirm that the existing
leach field is fully contained within the lot on which it is located.
1037 RIDGE ROAD: Located at 1037 Ridge Road. Applicant Terry Giangreco is requesting
SKETCH PLAN REVIEW in association with the development of a 7,000 SF single story dental
office on a 1.35-acre parcel having SBL# 079.15-1-8.005 located in the MC Medium Intensity
Conunercial District under Section 269.5 and Section 350-18 under the Code of the Towa of
Webster.
Appearing before the board was lan Kuchman with McMahon LaRue Engineers Surveyors here to
present the project on behalf of Dr. Terry Giangreco. Famously known for owning all of the get
Straight orthodontic offices through Monroe County. We are seeking to build another dentist office
here in Webster on Ridge Road adjacent to Brewsters Ice Cream. Looking to build between 6 to
8.000 square foot building with two primary dentists and professional dentists operating out of this
building with 14 to 17 chairs altogether, orthodontist and pediatric dental care. With that said, you
know, we’re looking for a site layout that'll provide a 3 to | ratio of chairs to parking spaces.
Operationally, that means one person in the chair, one person in the waiting room, and one person
checking out. That’s how these dental operations work these days. Pretty efficient.
So, the site that we’re showing provides 56 spaces and gives us about that sweet spot of a 3 to 1
ratio. Looking at zoning code based on the more conservative building layout of just north of 8,000
square feet. We exceed the minimum parking code there. We are looking for monument signage
out front of course sprinkling some landscaping and some shade trees throughout to provide some
more natural buffer to the adjacent businesses along with some streetscaping along Ridge Road.
The verdict still out on how we’re going to do storm water on the site, but rest assured there will
be storm water mitigation on the site while at the sume time trying to maximize building layout and
parking layout. Not a whole lot of space to traditional ponds so it is likely going to he going
underground with proprietary storm water detention water quality. And then | have a little bit of a
pocket behind the building for green infrastructure. So, meeting all the storm water requirements.
One of the big obstacles with he site is going to be some utility relocation. We have a gas line and
some overhead power that transcends out site off of Ridge Road to the U-Haul storage facility in
the back. So. overhead power is definitely going to have to be relocated with RGE_ [think we are
suil in the design phase. Trying to figure out how we re going to handle underground gas, either
work around it or relocate it.
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We met with PRC last month. We just missed the deadline to get in front of you guys last month,
so we did meet with town staff and Mr. Casciani himself, and we got some valuable impact. One
of which, you know, the intensity of the parking and the use. We’re gonna, even though we’ re not
proposing a new curb cut on Ridge Road, we will be working with Keigh and the engineering
department in New York State DOT to make sure that we’re not overloading Ridge Road from a
traffic count standpoint. We’ve also been in touch with the town sewer department identified that
there is an exisling sanitary lateral available and we're in the process of working with Monrve
County Water Authoring to ensure that there’s also a service available so that new services won’t
be being provided. Just a matter of time. So, yea, we’re working with the architect to fine-tune the
building drawings and designs as we speak. What you see now is a pretty good close representation
of the order of magnitude. I imagine when we come before you with the application, maybe some
slight tweaks certainly going to incorporate PRC comments and then any comments that you guys
have here tonight, So that said, T would like to open it up and get your comments on what we call
sketch or concept application and then take that feedback into the design.
(NOT SPEAKING LOUD ENOUGH, USED CLOSED CAPTIONING) Is this
the same group that filled the property for 15-20 years???
lan Kuchman: Nope. Brand new owners of the property. There was a site plan approval | think
half a decade ago, but I don’t think that project ever went through.
(NOT SPEAKING LOUD ENOUGH, USED CLOSED CAPTIONING) This
whole....this parcel If I remember right Tony was all part development in the back. Completely
got changed when we turned into.....................08 but it’s essentially the same use that was
included in those plans. The reason I bring that up is because it was part of that overall...... that
one thing that our research existing retention was built as part of that whole development size
(NOT SPEAKING LOUD ENOUGH, USED CLOSED CAPTIONING) Yes, we
are in touch with the engineering department to see if we can get our hands on that original slip to
see if that was for us. Yeah, great point.
(NOT SPEAKING LOUD ENOUGH, USED CLOSED CAPTIONING) The
site’s gone through, you know, several different configurations over the years, In particular.
driveway one time was a divided driveway back to a single driveway. Ice cream
How could you get it over there? I think that’s what we discussed already.
(NOT SPEAKING LOUD ENOUGH, USED CLOSED CAPTIONING) There
Was deo... eee
(HARD TO HEAR) One nice thing about this setup, too, is that there’s not
another curb cut on Ridge that is coming out of the side there so that’s good
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(NOT SPEAKING LOUD ENOUGH, USED CLOSED CAPTIONING) Now, it
still works within it. I mean, the original concept of the parcel is.....................08 self-storage,
but the idea of having a dentist office on this parcel has been around.......... access to the driveway.
ee ee |
Probably the biggest concern at the site, you addressed it, is the drainage. How
you going to handle that? Whether you sheet it to some point to a pond you can get to it or in
underground driveway in the parking lot whatever you’re proposing that’l] come in your building
design landscaping want to show that for preliminary approval. You know what to do with the
building.
For me, it’s just, again, it being a road, landscaping. One think may be considered,
Pm not sure if this is the location of the building. but if vou flip-flop vour parking Int with the
building, it gives you a little bit more drainage in the back, but you could also get rid of your
monument signage and just pul signage on the building. Right now, your signage is being blocked
by the hot box that’s out there.
jan Kuchman: Yeah, that’s something that we’ ve been kind of that's why I’m planting the seed that
we may make some modifications because not only drainage but also it might help us avoid having
to relocate that gas.
Dennis Gorlick, Chair of the Conservation Board: (NOT SPEAKING LOUD ENOUGH, USED
CLOSED CAPTIONING) We usually don’t get formal reports at this stage. We’re going to want
beet eseneees as well. Tall trail and on the conservation board. It’s interesting that some of the
comments that you brough up were just exactly similar things that we looked at. We did a
preliminary walk through a couple days ago and um the drainage, we are interested in how you're
going to handle the drainage because there’s a lot of nonpermanent surface. And let’s ee, do you
have the site up again. I just wanted to see what the....there is a swale on the west end that you
mentioned right there, and we noticed that in there, there’s four or five, four PVC stand pipes that
are down because that’s fairly low and the question was how does....we were wondering how that
tied in with existing or proposed storm water rain off it. Looks like it’s something set up initially
to take care of excess connect to a sewer system. Is that part of your plan? That was something I’d
be interested in finding out and also the hack, there seems to be a little swale that seems to be drv
between that your proposed building and the storage area doesn’t really show up much. It does dip
down. Looks pretty dry and the moment, but it get wet and runs olf and back. So, 1 looks like
you're looking at that. That’s some you saw as well. One thing we concurred about was, I’m not
sure exactly from that diagram exactly where the western edge of the property is. It looks like it
jogs around in the back. The little dog led in that coat comes out. And if you go all the way south
which and then goes up right a little piece and then goes back. Okay, so we were curious about that
whether or not any of the trees that sce to be between that product. There’s a few really large,
shaped trees that are there. [ don’t know if those are on your property or the next property next
door. But they’re big and old enough. Josh, I don’t know if you can take a look at some of the
photos that show, So, they appear to be trees that even if they*re not right where you're going fo
have to be doing some clearing, They’re big enough and old enough that you're going to have to
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be really really on these trees. And then those are evergreens. But there’s another picture that
shows and one more, and you can kind of see those evergreens and then you can see the branches
of a very ,very large...................065 It’s looks like a very big vehicle. It’s true. The trunk is
about this big. So, if it’s not on your property, we have to do some clearing under. The conservation
board was concerned about how you can avoid getting to close to that tree to damage it even though
it looks like it’s on the adjacent property as you work.
So, Dennis, can we have them flag the trees that are on the site that are good
trees? Maybe flag the trees, you know or mark them.
Well, we might be able to mark them, but there’s really only a small stand of
existing trees and again the southwest edge. And I’m not sure they’re really on your property or
they’re right adjacent. but ’'m concerned that if vou go right up to them again trees, which has
happened at some other developments sites recently that we’re concerned about. Like the fact that
there’s a number of....Oh, there’s a ..........0...cccee ee So, it’s a little....that one looks a different
than that arial view. The tree that’s in that little dog ???? leg, we’! probably need to check that
carefully when we get to the next phase. I’m assuming we’ll probably get to...... so, that’s what
we Can do at some point. There was one more thing. Shade trees, the shade trees that had been in
your plan, it sounds like youre going to try and keep a buffer of trees in there, And that was
something please about. So, sounds like you looked at....you know that there’s one picture in the
last second picture [rom the last. in the muddle picture, those are the stand pipes under the stand
pipes. You notice those? So, does that indicated that their might be already an existing storm water
drainage system that you’re going to tap into or is that one of the things you still have to find out
about.
Yes, I can just respond. Do you want me to respond.
So, those stand pipes are old clean outs from the abandoned storm sewer that used
to run through the U-Haul storage facility. When the built the U-Haul, they abandoned it. So, where
that ends up terminating on Ridge Road is actually where we’re going to be tying into our sewer
lateral. Other than that, J appreciate your comments about drainage, the rear drainage and the tree
protection. We'll go our there and mark the trees that will be saved. We will try and save the good
trees.
Okay you are here for sketch plan, and you know where 1m going with the
building type of structure, right and landscaping obviously, you know how all that goes. If you can
fix that nice along the front there that will be good. A little extra. Okay, with all that, I guess we’ re
all set. Thank you.
FEEDBACK PROVIDED:
e The applicant must identify and clearly mark all trees to remain prior to the start of
construction.
¢ Consider revising the site layout by switching the locations of the parking fot and the
building to increase available drainage area.
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7-BREW: Located at Hard Road. Applicant Brew Team NY, LLC/Doug Beachel is requesting
SKETCH PLAN REVIEW in association with the development of a 510 SF prefabricated drive
through only coffee stand on a 0.73-acre parcel having SBL# 079.15-1-1.313 located in the HC
High Intensity District under Section 269-5 and Section 350-19 under the Code of the Town of
Webster.
Appearing before the board was (DOUG BEAHEL WAS NOT IN ATTENDANCE) (NO ONE
SIGNED IN) Larry Adler, and I am one of the partner of Blue Team View. We are happy to be
here to talk about our proposed location on Hard Road. Seven Brew is a drive-thru only, beverage
only coffee stand. We sell expresso based drinks, smoothies and energy drinks. We don’t sell any
food. and we don’t make any food. The only thing that we do have is a prepackage muffin top
The building that we have is a 510 square foot prefabricated building. It comes in three pieces.
We put il on a stem wall and basically the building is complete in three days. Again, it’s a double
lane double land drive-thru, this, the site plan that we have stacks about 22 to 24 cars and has
parking for 12 parking spaces on it and in addition to the building and again...sorry, the building is
only tor employees. ‘he public doesn’t go into the building. It’s only for our baristas and our staff
.We, the 99.9 percent of the traffic will be from the cars. We do allow walk up for customers to
come but it’s a very, very percentage of what we get there. We also have about a 340 square foot
remote covier and storage area. The building and the cooler are clad in a niche which 1s a board.
It meets like bricks and you can see on here and we have a freestanding dumpster corral that also
matches the exterior of the building. So, I know that staff and Erika has some back and forth with
Doug. There was a comment letter thal was sent to us, and I think we’ve either have addressed it
or have noted so that for the next submission you know we'll address the comments. This is a
sketch plan so don’t have to get your input and thoughts. And with me is Brian Chery and he is our
Director of Operations. So, any questions about operations and how we operate Brian.
What are your operating hours.
5:30 am to 10: 00 pm during the week and then Friday and Saturdays we are open
until 11,
You know, remember we did have a conversation earlier on the town. | believe.
Phe only concern that 1 had with, and [think it's a mice litte project, was the lighting on there.
Remember | think we discussed that. Could that be subdued some or lighten down? It know that’s
your trademark, but Pm going back to...... you’ve got these planning and developing guidelines.
In the guidelines, it's very specific. Corporate branding could be reduced, you know. So, if there’s
a way of reducing the number of those bright purple lights you have, [ think this thing could be a
simple operation.
So, what we would like to do is as we....the next meeting there’s different ways that
we can shield the Weht in certain areas so that it is exactly what yourre saying. Put it down and it
tones it down just a little bit. It is a trademark and you know if we're near a residential area
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sometimes, we'll turn off, you know, we turn off the lights at night, but you know, we’re mindful
of the neighbors if there’s an area that we have to worry about. But it is the trademark, but we
want to work with the town and make it work.
And again, I think we can work something out with it, but I don’t think you can
compromise on it. I don't know. I’ve seen pictures at night and it’s, you know, your whole gable
ends and soifils and everything were all lit up and it’s pretty bright.
Really should show compliance with lighting. The drawings
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It meets that............
The drawing itself should show the lumens... BOTH PARTIFS SPFAKING AT
THE SAME TIME. Not necessarily the property line, but how it spills over on your property.
Yeah, they may be able to handle that, but my concern is, it’s corporate branding
and it’s really bright. That’s what I’m saying. If they can reduce that down because that’s what our
guidelines say, unless we just....... don’t know.
Make sure it’s reduced down and making sure the lighting stays on the parcel.
Yes, I think by law regulation we have to do.
(NOT SPEAKING LOUD ENOUGH, USED CLOSED CAPTIONING)
Understanding how the lighting is done now the LEDs in particular and how bright they are and
how far properties when we do a lighting map for the runs it should show up to the complete extent
Off............ not just the wall packs but anything that’s on the inside building shows outside.
My opinion that is to me that’s the only concern Ihave. Mr. Ciardi is showing
a picture here of it lit up at night. So, see what you can do in that regard.
(NOT SPEAKING LOUD ENOUGH) You do seem to have some locations that
have less not as neon like a darker neon blue rather than light.
Yes, that’s what | want to....1 mean typically it's a prototype so it should be the same.
but we can look into that and we can also......I know like I said there’s been some shields that will
help abate some of the light that comes out.
Okay, just take that information for what iU(s worth. See what you can do to
subdue the lighting. Other than that, | have no issues. The site is there and it’s the last piece that’s
right there.
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I agree with the lighting for sure. The other one is your access employee path to the
dumpster. If you can extend that striping into the dumpster because right now your employee
essentially has to go into lane one which is an oncoming lane in order to get to a dumpster with
what they’re carrying. So, if you extend that past the curb for the foot traffic going back there. The
one I think PRC comment had, the snow storage, that one if you don’t mind to. You have curb and
it goes all the way to the east so where are you storing all the snow that’s on site that will
accumulate. The last one for me is just striping so you know blue typically ADA striping and you
have blue that you’re using throughout your site, and it can be confusing what is ADA a path
potentially or ADA parking compared to it all being blue. So, I would encourage you to distinguish
only using the blue for ADA parking and yellow for around the dumpster along your drive lanes
and whatnot.
Your ......how does the drainage go across the front there? Near the pond that
goes across,
The detention basin in the front............
Okay, It goes right straight across right from Taco Bell and Dairy Queen and so
on, correct. You are going to have the same configuration and then your landscaping, all of that
area, okay. Okay, I guess were good. See you when you come back in.
FEEDBACK PROVIDED:
e Consider revising the pavement striping colors so they are clearly distinguishable
from the ADA-required blue striping.
e Extend the pedestrian striping to provide a continuous connection to the dumpster
enclosure.
Indicate the designated snow storage areas on the plans.
Consider incorporating light-dimming controls for the corporate lighting fixtures.
Applicant to address PRC Comments dated 2/24/26
VERIZON OWN; Located at Lake Road and County Line Road. Applicant Robert Burgdorf for
Bell Atlantic Mobile Systems d/b/a Verizon is requesting SKETCH PLAN REVIEW in
association with a 125-foot telecommunications tower and associated ground-mounted equipment
on a 7.8-acre parcel having SBL# 037.03-1-44 located in the LL Large-Lot Residential District
under Section 269-5 and Section 350-13 of the Cade of the Town of Webster.
(THE RECORDING OF THIS MEETING IS NOT CLEAR AND CUTS OUT AS WELL. HARD
TO HEAR WHEN NO ONE IS SPEAKING CLEARLY INTO MICS)
Appearing before the board was Robert Burgdorl of the law firm Nixon Peabody here tonight on
behalf of Verizon Wireless. (DID NOT SIGN IN) Also with me tonight is Nico Facy. He is a site
acquisition consultant for Verizon Wireless who’s available for testimony to the extent it may be
helpful or necessary. Verizon Wireless is a public utility licensed and regulated by the
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Federal Communications Commission and it’s responsible for providing wireless communications
and all of its license areas, which is really most of the United States, but including the Town of
Webster in the cell that we call the Lake Road cell. It currently has inadequate coverage in the
Lake Road cell and to remedy that, the only way to remedy that is to place a transmitting facility in
a technologically appropriate spot in order to cure that....those service efficiencies. In order to
understand why we've selected the site and while we’re here, it helps to take just a minute to go o
er suine basics of cellular technology, cellular telephone technology and design network.
In order for it to work, you have to picture, as the name cellular says, a honeycomb group of cells.
The ideas is to place a transmitting facility in the middle of each cell, the typological middle. So,
that broadcast to the entire cell without unduly overlapping neighboring cells or gapping. So, if
you picture a cell turned upside down, you lift that up and that beam gets wider. Higher the antenna,
the wider the beam, the lower smaller the footprint. As you move in one direction, whole footprint
moves over. If it’s too far west, itll interfere to the west and gap in the east and vice versa. That
and the fact that topography will affect this. It’s incredibly weak, weak radio signal. It’s can’t
bleed into the neighboring cells. So, snow on leaves on tress can impede it. Topography can
impede it. It has also got a plan for population centers and roads where the main traffic is and of
course work in conjunction with all the neighboring ceils. All of this means that there is extremely
limited flexibility as to where the facility can be placed will build the system on the computer and
they'll develop what’s known as a search area and the search area will show and that doesn’t mean
that everything just outside it might not but basically the bullseye where it needs to be. 1 don't
know who’s controlling the screen, but you went to the search area, which is exhibit G, page 8,
that would show you the search area we’re talking about and essentially needs to be in that search
are in order to work, otherwise it won’t work within the network. And we can review the
propagations in a minute, too.
This particular site we’re proposing here at the intersection of Lake Road and Monroe/Wayne
County Road is 125 foot tal! mono pole and | think everyone knows what they look like. It’s nota
tower; it’s not a guide. It’s not like a............ work. It’s like a light standard and this particular
one is ....it would be at 100 by a 100 foot site and we will shelter or equipment cabinet surrounded
by a chain-link fence, When coming to the site and taking that search area, the site acquisition
consultant goes out, and they try to find a suitable site by first finding a Cole location opportunity.
If we can find the existing tower in or near the search area, we go on existing tower, existing
building if it’s tall enough. We then look for municipal property as your code requires if it’s
available. Look for industrial property if that is available and, in the end, we examine the site and
come up with what we think is the best site given the alternatives that are available and that’s how
we ended up at this site,
Procedurally, this requires a special permit from the Town Board and site plan approval from this
board and height variance 125 teet vs 100 trom the ZBA. Procedure also requires county 239 M
review and a notice requirement, So, I want to get all those procedural items out of the way. I
know there’s no decision being made tonight. I just wanted to get those out on the record. I happy
to go aver as much of the RF information as the board would Tike and to go over the site selection
analysis but there are two important points that I do what to raise because | think were think were
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the last on the agenda, so I think everybody’s here for this particular one. And the two topics that I
would like to hit are our claims of health effects and second is effective prohibition on under
federal state law. As to the first, claims of health effects, and I predict that there’s going to be a lot
of folks here that area going to raise fears of heath affects, 1 mean I predict there’s this topic. The
first is that this topic is fully preempted under federal law from being considered by municipality
as part of the zoning process. Entertaining or allowing exploration of this topic is a violation of
federal law. Penrod. It is not a topic that this board can explore, and Verizon Wireless more or less
willfully enforce it’s right in that respect and there’s no basis for it. So, the second point is if
anybody’s actually interested in anybody’s interested in the science behind it and check the facts as
a courtesy because we’re not required under federal law. We’ve submitted a lot of information
already to the town board and that’s available.
So, in reading the facts to he concerned but further on this fact that has alwavs mace the most sense
to me as far engineers have explained it and it’s just common sense. This is a radio signal. Humans
have been broadcasting them for a 100 years. It is a run-of-the-mill radio signal. Nothing more.
The only difference is it is an extremely week radio signal. It has to be because as explained earlier
it can’t bleed over and interfere into the non-cells. So, if one is concerned about this, they have to
be lots, millions of watts in some cases. Where is the concern over the police broadcasts? Tow
truck communications often far more powerful, And if one’s really concerned about this incredibly
weak radio signal coming from the tower, remember that phone you’re holding, it has to be able to
broadcast back to the lower. So, if they check the power density, they better be lar more concerned
about pressing the phone to their head if they’ re being honest about the facts and the power density
that come from radio broadcasts. Nevertheless, despite all that, at previous hearings in this town,
neighbors came out and raised all kinds of odd arguments. They claimed they were lied to about
asbestos. I don’t know what that has to do with this site or they found weird maha sites saying that
cell phones cause cancer. ] have been to three towns since the pandemic where people got up here
and vigorously argued that cell towers cause COVID. I don’t know where to go with that. I mean,
there are a lot of weird conspiracy theories.
If anybody’s interested in science, the information is there. It’s an incredibly weak radio signal.
That’s all it is and we are happy to oblige, but it'll be outside of the process. If somebody wants
more information, it will not be part of this process, We are done with that issue in this town. We
will rely on federal law and not engage further. So again. the town cannot entertain these allegations
of adverse health effects as violation of federal law. It is reversible error. There’s nothing more
we can add to that and won't. On the second topic, eltect of prohibition. | predict there will be a
number of people who just simply say we don’t like it. We don’t want to see it. We want you to
turn it down. Just turn it down. What they don’t understand is that there is no option for that. A
municipality cannot turn down one of these facilities without offering a viable alternate site. Simply
get up here and say turn it down is meaningless and is frankly a waste of everybody's time.
Obviously rely on your own attorney but here’s the law in the nutshell is you still, .,.in all the cases
over the last 40 years that we’ve had case law both federal and state and it's essentially the same
whether you're under federal law as an FCC licensed carrier under state law as a public utility. A
municipality cannot prohibit a carrier from having a site that works in that coverage area, but it may
reasonable regulate. So, what does that mean? It means two things, for the municipality. First it
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can impose reasonable site improvements which is really this board, site plan board it’s typically a
planning board thing; landscaping, security sometimes we move it on a parcel, those are some of
those kinds of site type things. That’s reasonable regulation. The second thing municipality can
do under reasonable regulation is it can require the cure to go to a different site provided and this is
a distillation of all the federal and state law provided it works from a technical standpoint and is
available without unreasonable cost and unreasonable delay works available without unreasonable
cost, unreasonable delay that ia a nutshell and Verizon doesn't care where we are. We could care
less where the facility is as long as it works from a technical standpoint, sites available and we can
proceed without a reasonable cost and reasonable delay. Completely indifferent, completely
agnostic as to where it is. But what a municipality cannot do is simply say no to site if there’s not
an alternative. Once we’ve made our ............... case, which we’ ve done in Exhibit F & G which
is we’ ve shown that we need it, we’ ve shown the need for it, we’ ve shown the search, we’ ve shown
where we need it fo be, we’ve scrubbed the search area. we’ ve shown the alternatives, we’ ve done
all that. So once that’s done, a municipality can’t simply turn it down, it’s got to find it. So, we
always encourage the community if they've got a better idea and sometimes it happens. I mean,
the site act people do a good job. They’ve been doing it for a long time, but we have new sites
where that comes into play, but we won’t go away. So, anybody who just says trend down with
auto viable alternative is just really wasting everyone’s time. With that, with those two points made
we're happy to talk about the search area. We have to talk about what we looked at. We're happy
to talk about the...if you want somebody to put up the site plan to actually show the site plan itself.
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way. Under 200 teet , don’t need to light it under FAA. And again, that’s probably a good one, that
picture right there. Which just shows it’s, you know, monopoles or photo simulation and what it
would look like from the road. I think everybody’s pretty familiar with these at the base of the
chain link fence. If you’re not familiar, happy to talk about the RF issues. I know we have a long
agenda, and I don’t want to take more of your time than is necessary. We are happy to answer any
questions the board might have or respond to any questions that are from the public that are
legitimate to be asked.
Does this tower include a faraday shield?
Are you talking about lighting protection.
No, a faraday shield?
I have to have one of the engineers try. If you’re talking about lightening
protection, got a lighten rod. I don’t know what a faraday shield. I have never heard of it. I’ve
been here for 37 years for Verizon. I don’t remember heard of a faraday shield.
They use it in the terms in radio where your in the same building where your
transmitter is located, they put up basically chicken coupe wire to absorb any possible radiation.
We're talking about health concerns earlier. So, ] was just wondering if this tower has a faraday
shield.
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Liz Brackett
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Please type your comments My name is Liz Brackell, and | am willing lo express my
in the box below: Opposition to the proposed 125-foot cell ower planned directly
across from our home.
Although / am not technically a resident of Webster, our home
sits within 300 yards of the proposed site, with our property
lines less than 100 yards away. We do not currentiy struggle
with cell service and the tower would stand right outside our
doors and negatively impact part of our everyday life.
We are preparing to start a family, and we chose this home
because it feels peaceful, hopeful, and the perfect place where
our future chitdren would grow up. We imagined quiet
momings, kids playing outside, and a neighborhood that felt
Saje and natural. A 125-foot industnal ceil tower across the
street is deeply upsetting. While the FCC has established
exposure guidelines and regulations, research on fong-term
exposure ~~ particularly conceming fertility and reproductive
health —~ is sti being conducted. As someone hoping to
become a parent, it is difficult not to worry about what that
could mean for our future family.
Beyond potential health concerns, this tower would disrupt the
entire neighborhood. Instead of open sky and the peaceful
setting we fell in fove with, we would face a constant industrial
presence. it would be a daily reminder of something we never
evpected to live beside
We understand the need for retiable cell service and we are not
against progress. We are simply asking that careful thought be
given to placing this structure farther from residential homes.
We want to begin this next chapter of our lives feeling confident
in the safety and serenity of our surroundings — not
overshadowed by uncertainty.
Thank you sincerely for taking the time to consider how deeply
this decision wilt affect those of us who live closest to it.
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Please type your comments _| live across the street from the site of this proposed Verizon
-+am concemed about that health effects environmental effects
that this celt tower will produce. ..
-there are smatt children fiving in this area ..2 to whom live
next-door
-this would be a complete eyesore to all living in the area and
all traveting the scenic Trail
-fm sure there is plenty of apple orchard acreage east of the
proposed site that this project can resume
-Uiis undoubiediy would decrease ail property value to all
homes
-let’s keep this area beautiful... no one wants to see a monster
of a cell tower as soon as they step out of their homes.
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Kelly Rasm
1890 Lake Road Webster
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Proposed celt tower at Lake Rd. and County Line Rd.
My name is Kelly Rasmussen, | am writing to strongly oppose
the proposed construction of a cell phone tower right across the
road from our home and in the heart of our neighborhood.
lam the mother of two young children and as a parent, my first
responsibility is to protect my children’s health. safety and well-
being. The thought of placing a large industrial tower so close
to where families live, play and raise their children is deeply
troubling. While some agencies, including the Federal
Communications Commission, set exposure guidelines, |
remain very concerned about the long-term, cumulative effects
of radiofrequency emissions- especially on devetoping bodies
and brains. Science continues to evolve, and when it comes to
my children, unceriainty is not something | shout simply
accept.
Beyond health concerns, this tower would permanently change
the character of our neighborhood. We chose to buy our home
in this area because it is safe, peaceful and family-oriented. A
tail cell tower would dominate our skyline, replacing the sense
of comfort, security and nature with an industrial presence that
does not belong in a residential nature setting containing young
families, children, animals and wildlife.
Safety during severe weather events is another concern. As a
mother, | cannot ignore the fear of structural failure cr falling
debris during strong storms. Even the possibility of it adds
unnecessary anxiety to daity life. Additionally, construction and
maintenance activities could increase noise, traffic and general
disruption.
We have no issues with cell service; we do understand the
importance of it However, that need must be balanced with the
rights of families to feel secure in their own homes. We
respectfully urge decision makers to consider alternative
tocations that are farther away from residential homes.
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designed to keep them safe and allow them to play and exptore
the outdoors and not have it be dominated by industrial
infrastructure. Would any of the board members want to look
out your window or walk out your front door and immediately
see a 125ft tall industrial cell phone tower?
For these reasons as a concerned mother, | ask you to put their
well-being first and consider alternative locations. | respectfully
request that decision makers carefully evaluate the impact on
our family and neighboring families. Thank you.
Kelly Rasmussen
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Piease type your comments My family lives in the home across the street from the proposed
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We have lived here for over 14 yrs and are raising our two
young children here. The photos that Verizon submitted do not
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tower directly in the open right off the scenic byway, this will
undoubtedly create a public eye sore in an area that is enjoyed
by many travelers throughout the seasons. | believe this tower
only steels more beauty from our town and neighboring
community. There are other locations this could be built that
would be far less disruptive to the public. This site is to close to
homes. It will absolutely ruin the value of our home and
property and subject our family and nieghbors to years of rf
exposure, which nobody can prove are harmless, and possibly
other health concerns as verizon leases space to other
companies if this thing Is slapped up. | dont want to spend the
rest of our time in this home walking out my front door
wonderniig wiiat this thing is doing lo my families health and
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so hard for. As far as cell coverage claim goes, In fourteen
years we have never experienced any coverage issues. | drive
all over this area and never experience any issues, | believe
this site just makes Verizon more revenue, just another tower
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The transmission if from the antennas. It’s not in a building,
It goes through the tower though. You still have power going through the tower,
don’t you?
You have electrical power versus an RF transmission. Are you talking about the
electric power?
Talking of the power generated from the tower itself. The whole tower.
The tower doesn’t generate any power.
There’s no power going through it.
There is electricity going to the tower to the antenna to the equipment, but the
tower is not generating any electricity. And I’m not sure P'm really not sure what you’re telling, but
I’m happy to have the civil engineers respond.
I used to be in radio business. They used to have faraday shields at one radio station
that I worked at because there was concern about radiation causing health hazards for humans.
There's a concern that I'm sure some of these people have about, you know, health. You're saying
that it doesn’t. I’m just wondering if it’s a faraday shield that has been discussed.
I have never heard of a faraday shield in almost 40 years.
Okay, why don’t we check that out down the road when you come back in again.
Yeah, I’m happy to have it so much and the difference might be as well that
you're talking about these incredibly weak radio signals versus, and I don’t know what your radio
Station was, but it could have been operating in hundreds of thousands of watts, and it could have
been the difference.
50,000 watts.
Versus some of these. And I think the RF engineer | think it’s a 15 watts channel.
Well, let’s move on with it. First of all, for everyone here, I’ve got....I printed
out, just for the record...(SEE ATTACHRD LIST OF NAMES AND THEIR CONCERNS)
John Meyers, Ellen Lindell... And I am just saying these are the letters that ] received. And they
seein to have the same... Y’all seem to have the same concern, and I don’t think anybody is going
to argue with you. One is the location of it; 1 saw it on the drawing. I’m personally not happy with
it there. I understand what is Mr. Burgdorf has said. It is a utility and they can go to the FCC and
al Google, Tm dragging this out hecause T spent a fot of time messing with this thing today. TP went
on google and found County Line Rd and Basket Road and Windmill Farm obviously lies in
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dine Road.
First of all, why.weren't we contacted as neighbors to the
Orchards as to what they were planning on doing behind our
acks!
Lake Road is a beautiful and historical road, especially in the
summer months when used by antique car clubs motorcycle
groups to use the seaway Trail for an outing. We don't need it
in our face as we drive down Lake Road. Please try to put it on
town property or have the Apple orchard put it in the woods like
the one on Slocum Road.
| moved to Lake Road as my final retirement home and it took
me and my husband now in our later years to fix this property
up. We do not want to have to look out our living room window
and our kitchen window to see a | saw right in front of our face.
Also bringing down our property values.
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not need radiation coming oft of the tower. And it has not been
proven 100% that it will not affect us.
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came here to look at the apple orchard’s not a cell tower.
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Lake Road from West to East is Webster's greatest treasure.
Restored completely and beautified fram one and to the other
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Please type yourcomments The proposed site is 400 feet from my home and a number of
in the box helaw: homes directly across | ake Rd My house is shown on naae
105 of the the site proposal. On page 125 of the proposal you'll
find a list of 26 properties less than 500 feet from where the
tower would be placed.
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other countries have set not just recommendations but
requirements of 1,500 to 1,640 (1640 feet equals 500 meters)
or outright banning them.
Hundreds of studies clearly demonstrate known health risks
including, cancers, neurological issues, hormonal and genetic
damage especially to children.
Rath me wife and 1 haves farlamia VAfa are immuno
compromised, 24// Radio Frequency radiation is likely to
interfere with our ability to fight other cancers and infection.
Public information shows that property values for adjoining
properties will be negatively affected. Both from the RF
radiation and visual! aesthetics. The research is consistent: cell
towers near residential properties reduce home values and a
family's financial investment. and homes are usually the single
largest mvestment for families
A study in the Journal of Real Estate Finance and Economics
found:
* Multiple filings to the FCC note that cell towers negatively
affect aesthetics and property values.
* Asurvey of 1,000 buyers found:
* 94% are less interested in a home near a tower.
* 79% would never buy or rent near one.
* The Dept. of Housing and Urban Development (HUD)
classifies cell towers as a “Hazard and Nuisance”, requiring
appraisers to adjust values automatically downward by almost
3%.
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* Perceived health risks
* Noise from equipment
* Fear of future resale difficulty
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If a tower is placed very close to a home or is clearly visible,
decreased value impact is likely and often in the 10-30%
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Ellen Lindahd
1886 Lake Road Webster, NY 14580
proposed cell phone tower at Lake and County Line Road
| would like to go on record as being strongly opposed to the
proposed focation of this cefl phone tower. | am very concemed
the home of Kelly and Dan Rasmussen who live directly across
the street approx.300 feet from proposed location of tower.
There are 2 young children living in this home. My primary
concem is for the health impacts of tiving so close to a cell
phone tower. ims Concem 1s supponed py segnincant research
(one example attached below). Additionally, there is little doubt
that building the tower in proposed location will significantly
reduce property values of homes immediately adjacent to
proposed site. This is also supported by research from the real
estate industry The Verizon proposal laughably indicates that
this celi phone tower will actually increase property values!
Windmill Farms will enjoy significant financial profit from thus
project- the contract with Windmill Farms contained in the
Venzon proposal includes a signing bonus, a monthly lease
and an annual escalation clause. The dollar amounts were
redacted from the proposal, but quick research indicates that
average monthly fee to Windmill will most fikely be in the
neighborhood of $3000. Windmill Farms has several other
possible locations on their property which are sti within the
zone requested by Verizon and are further from existing
homes. Seems that since they are the ones who will profit if this
proposal moves forward, that the proposed tower be located at
the back of their orchards where it will be less of an eyesore
pose fewer health risks and have less negative impact on
values of adjacent properties. This would be a much more
neighborly approach by Windmill Farms.
Additionally, the proposed height of this tower is 125 feet which
is significantly higher than the current 100 foot height allowed
by the Zoning board.
| recognize the necessity of appropriate placement of
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1880 Lake Road
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Proposed call tower at comer of County Line Rd. and Lake Rd.
Verizon claims that a new tower ic needed at the mtersertion of
Lake Road and Monroe-Wayne County Line Road in the
northeast comer of Webster in Monroe County. The reason for
the tower is to, "remedy service nadequacies in and around
the northeastem area of the Town of Webster." That statement
is quoted from page one of the 140 page document prepared
by Nixon Peabody on behatf of Verizon/Belt Atlantic Mobile
vysrems. [live at 1280 Lane Road aiid iy iuuse is 450 feet
from the proposed tower site. My cell phone operates on the
Verizon cellular network and t do not have any issues with my
cellular service in and around my home. No dropped calls. No
bad reception when talking on the phone When | heard of
Verizon's plan, ! visited Verizon's website to check an the
cellular coverage in this part of town and { found that 5G Ultra
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available and in use here in the northeastem area of Webster. |
have a copy of the webpage showing Verizon's coverage map
with 5G service in this area and | will bring it to the
Planning/Zoning Board Meeting on Tuesday, March 3rd. | will
argue that there are no service inadequacies in the
northeastem area of Webster and Verizon's own website
confirms it.
Also, as Mr. Janson commented in this same forum, residents
in this area wif suffer decreased home values in addition to
significant impact on potential buyer interest if this tower is
constructed at the proposed site. | have consulted with a
prominent Real Estate broker who works extensively in thie
community and she has prepared a written statement
corroborating the concerns of Mr. Janson, and many of the
homeowners in this area including me. Like the Verizon
coverage map, | wit bring a copy of this statement with me on
Tuesday, March 3rd.
between. I don’t know where the property line is, but it looks like that farmland is all part of the
Windmill Farm. So, it’s all there. So, the location where it is on that spot right there Josh, if you
go down Wayne Monroe Wayne County Line Road and go down to that house that I believe is the
estate or the home and that’s the grounds Windmill Farms. Now, if you go just a little bit below
that right there, there’s a driveway that goes in back to that field all the way back. In my opinion,
that cell tower could be located way back there by those trees and you're still going to get the same
reception. | think that would appease a Jot of the people. I’m hoping that will be the case and this
isn’t new to us. I ‘ve been here for every cell tower that came into this town from the very first one.
And we’ve had them relocate several. There was one......1 want to tell you a little story. On Bay
Road there was one that if you went north or south on Bay Road, where the Masonic Lodge is there
and you would have looked at that tower right in front of you because there is a little slight curve
in the road. Asked them if they could relocate that back onto the...... long story short, they located
it hack on the masonic temples property back there. You ride down Bay Road, you don’t even know
there’s a cell tower there. Ihe one on Lake Road, by Pellet Road just a couple years ago we had, |
don’t know 2-3 years ago wherever it was now I don’t even know and that came in, they got it
located all the way back . There were concerns and people saying the same thing, I don’t want it
and bottom line is I don’t want to see a cell tower. That’s a big part of it and I understand I wouldn’t
cither. So, they located it all the way back in the property. Is it a bad thing now, no. You know
what, if you ride down Lake Road, | bet you several people here ride down and you don’t ....never
seen that tower, your neck will have to turn 95 degrees to see it back there in the woods. And I
think this could be located and done the same way. They would not have to disturb the farmland.
They could utilize. ...the way I see it, that farm road that’s there currently to put that tower back by
that woods. And I think that would be a solution that everybody would be able to live with. I’m
hoping that will be the case.
It’s very helpful input, Mr. Chairman. That’s the kind of thing that we’ re looking
for. What we will do if this is the board’s desire, that’s the message we’ re getting is we will go back
to the landlord. It’s got to be available. We'll go back to the landlord, has to be retested by RF. It’s
so close that, I don’t get to make the decision, it has to be retested. And the Town Board has also
got to prefer this because we got a special permit there. So, we will do our due diligence and see if
we can make that work. But we have no objection to doing it. We are completely agnostic as to
whether it’s at the corner or back there. If it works and we can get the right permissions.
‘The closest resident to this at that point would be the owner of the property.
Again, you don’t have to build. If you came in off .,.relocated it back in that ficld off of Lake
Road, you would have to put a driveway going all the way back there and you would have to cross
that creek, and I don’t know what that creek is. ] think that maybe a major......
(BOTH PARTIES SPEAKING AT THE SAME TIME)
Crossing the creek is a difficulty but wetlands are difficult but with the
existing..........
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That is why I am suggesting coming off of Basket Road or off County Line
Road going and putting it back in that field. No one will ever know that it’s there and that could
solve this whole issue.
Don’t break my rule, Tony. This is just because it’s so sensitive and just for people
in the public, it is important to know that a lot of this information that Mr. Burgdorf indicated is
available to town for you to view as well. One of the things I quoted with the rest of the town is
just making sure the information is accessible to the community to kind of answer those concerns
to reassure you about the science that’s there. You know whether it is a QR code with the same
application materials so it’s digitally available to the direct neighbors so that way they can review
it for themselves or if it’s on a website or something for them to look at. You know, just having the
correct information out there can help a long way with the communication in town.
I agree, may I suggest, the information we have submitted some very good
information to the Town Board. It wasn’t part of this particular process. So, if the town was able to
make that, I don’t know how you do that with your website....
If it’s available at the library. The physical copy is usually more accessible at the
library. Thal was one thing we put up there. The other one is just the current location, like Tony
mentioned, if you’re right on Lake Road, you are driving up and down the hill. The first thing you
are going lo sec is thal. Hs a vicw sore. So, besides the health concern, there is always the view
concern, Similar to Tony, I spent a good amount of time trying to see within the existing land owner
where could it be a good location for this. So, Josh roughly where your cursor is...if you just go a
little bit farther south...a little bit more down....right there is, I have GIS resources and that area
was outside of a wet landing concern hydrology concern. It’s slightly higher from the location
Tony had but again, it’s a lease agreement so you could offer the land owner a more upgraded
access road that they could use for farming while you also have access to the back. The other
location that I found because again you're really looking for a 76 x 36 panel. That’s essentially
what is your footprint of your fence limit would be, and this would take you out of our side of our
township is across the road. If you just go a little bit more south there, you’ ll see...going south
right there, you'll see that road right there in that location you are well within I think more than
couple a thousand plus feet away from any neighboring resident owner. That is, right there, 140
foot by 80 foot of a space pad and you would just have to maybe upgrade that a little bit road hack
up to...but you’re within your zone and I’m saying is this...is like Tony said you’re so far secluded
that you’re not visually going to sec it.....LVERYONE SPEAKING AT THE SAME
TIME......same land owner.
EVERYONE SPEAKING AT THE SAME TIME.
Yeah, this considered your V zone that you had and the same land ownet
I don’t really care where you locate it. My point of this whole thing was get it
off of Lake Road and put it back in the woods, Now, vou can go on the east side. west side
wherever. Just ....
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That one may be a bit far to the south. Again, they are......... we're starting to get
pretty far from the search area, but sometimes it works. So, we'll have it tested.
And my last comment, just the collocation policy that you have on here. So, you
know, you can tell us what your equipment will produce, but whoever you lease to on that tower it
just seems that your collocation policy is not very limiting to leaves it open to somebody coming
in putting something on there. So, 1 wonder if there’s anything with the town that later on whoever
proposes to put anything on the poll would have to go back to the town for approval as well. But
again, it’s not very limiting. It’s only three lines.
This approval would not apply to others. Any other carrier would have to come
for approval to this town. What most towns ask us to do is to make a very liberal collocation policy
because they want carriers to be able to go on our towers. They want us to go on other towers. And
with all the major carriers, we have master license agreements, which means we go into another
town, and we point to it and there’s a site license agreement that’s already worked out. So, this
collocation is....... there’s great pressure.
Alright. Again, just for the record, we'll lake these letters thal were sent and we
can’t read them all tonight because most of them just came this afternoon. What PII do is Pll give
them to Katherine and will put them in the file, and we’ ll send a copy to the applicant and let them
address anything on here they feel needs to be addressed when they come in for preliminary. Again,
this is simply a sketch plan. There’s no conversation, no open floor, or anything else. So, is that
working okay so far for everybody?
SOMEONE FROM THE AUDIENCE YELLING OUT, WHEN WILL THEY COME BACK
It will be published before. Now again, not a public hearing. I know some of
you live near by and across the street and here and there. There’s all kinds of stuff and stories going
around and half of them are bull. Pll keep it short with that.
SOMEONE FROM THE AUDIENCE YELLING OUT
Anthony Cascian1: Hold on, so what we’ll do, I'll open this if somebody has to come up and speak
and say something. We will give you two or three minutes. Just a short, bul please, if somebody
else want to, don’t repeat the same things and let’s don’t beat it to death. Just....if you have
something new that can help us, God bless you.
I live right across the street from where this would be. Okay, if you could pull up
page 105 aad Ewill show you where ay hioiese ts,
Okay, so you are close by.
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Yes,385 feet. Okay, I can’t talk about health issues. 1 would if I could, but I will
address the issues of value. There’s no question that towers have an effect on property values that
are located nearby. In this proposal on page 125, you will find a list of 26 properties that are
within 500 feet of the proposed tower. There’s plenty of evidence that the journal on real estate
finance and economics that did a thousand per buyer survey and asked them, what would you think
about being near a tower? 75% said, “No thanks. I don’t really want to buy or rent there. 94%, I
would never buy near there. Average cost to the nearby properties someplace between 10 and 30%.
In my case, that’s 50 to 150,000 dollars. That would be the impact to me. Who would reimburse us
for that loss of value? And in most cases, a home is a family’s biggest investment. So, if you take
that kind of hit, we have some real new homes in our neighborhood. This is called a rural
neighborhood. We've had four new homes go in across the street in the last year or two. There's
another development, three homes going in just up the street from that. There's a new one right at
the end of the field. That's my house at the far end of that picture. There’s the tower. We’re 380
feet from that. If you have to turn left and look across Lake Road in this package of proposal, there's
no picture that shows that right across the road there are a number of homes. They're about 400
feet. So, the value would be significant. That is a major concern to us. | appreciate Mr. Burgdorf's
comments about being willing to look at proposals on the farm. I understand they have every right
to do what they want. There's a lot of lund. You think you could push back to the edge of the
orchards on both sides.
Well, that’s what.... why we're suggesting to take if off that spot and move it
back.
There’s orchards on both sides and counties. We could go way back on both of
them and exceed the 1500 foot kind of standard accepted level now. If you look at the literature, so
! appreciate the ability for people to consider another choice, getting back in the orchards would
be great. Thank you for taking the time.
Okay, anybody else. Again, my point here is reading your letters, and ] think
everybody’s got the same situation. You don’t want to see a tower right on Lake Road. And I
would have to agree 100% with you on that. And what we can do is the best we can do and that
being hopefully they cooperate and can relocate that back in......I don’t care if it’s on one side of
County Line Road or the other side, just get it hack in the woods somewhere. And we’ve done it
before and they have cooperated very very nicely in the past. And again, we’ve had a lot of towers
come into the town, And this one here, what you folks are doing here is no different than any other
tower that’s ever been here. So, the only thing they have to get a variance for the extra 25 feet
because our code says 100 feet. In my opinion, I think the code...1 spoke to the supervisor earlier
and | think that’s something that should get changed. Allow 125 feet. We though years ago at 100
feet we'd not have conspicuous towers, but then it turned out that you needed more towers because
they didn’t reach as far. So, with that said, we'll end with that and hopefully, they can change it,
Pp. Go Maeno, 2026 Diag Mec
FEEDBACK PROVIDED:
e Evaluate alternative locations on the same property that are situated farther west of
County Line Road.
e Consider whether the portion of the property located in Wayne County is suitable
for the proposed use as an alternative location.
ADMINISTRATIVE MATTER:
* Lowes staging & seasonally products on storefront 2026
When Lowe’s originally came in, it was developed and built and so on and so
forth. One of the stipulations was that there was to be no storage. They have been meticulous
with keeping their site clear for years. We’ ve allowed them to put lawnmowers, snowblowers,
and miscellaneous things in the front. The kept it neat and clean and so on and so forth. A little
while later they wanted to put some sheds over there and we were a little concerned initially, but
We went along with it. That was along the west property line there by the roadway and I think
you’ ve got like four of them there, something like that, no big deal. That has not created any
issues. And now they’re proposing some parking spaces for some trailers. And again, this isn’t
like it’s right on, on the main highway like you go our Ridge Road west and it looks like flea
markel. You know, everybody's got everything out in front of the stores and stuff. This is kept
well managed very nicely.
Appearing before the board was Hans, the store manager from the Lowe's and | am here with
Joseph Ster, my operations manager. Thank you for the opportunity to come to the board. As you
can see on the image, what we are asking for is to be able to set up and propose up to |5 spaces
for a truckload of trailers. Ten come up per truckload. We have 15 spaces just in case. They’re a
little wider than a parking spot. I am just asking for your approval on the said location to
merchandise the trailers for our customer.
For rentals?
No, for sale.
You're putting that near the lumber entrance, correct?
Yes, right across from the pro entrance,
Anthony Cassciani; Now do you really need
15. Can you reduce that down to like maybe half of
that, 9 or 10,
Absolutely
] mean instead of 15, that’s a pretty big line of trailers.
So, what we could do, 10 come on a (ruck load se we can store the rest behind Un
building.
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Okay so put 8 or 9 out in the front and the rest get stored.
Are those kind of flatbed trailers.
Yes, landscape trailers.
1i’s not box trailers
Landscape and I think the biggest one is 6 x
10. Drazen Gasic: Are you going to strip it somehow. Designated as your area just so that you don’t
have the pro......... cars going and parking in your spots or anything like that.
We’ || have signage.
My only question is, thinking back on the pickle ball courts and how their traffic is
going to flow. How would that impact the traffic flow.
1 don’t think it does at all because it’s totally a separate piece. The road is all
the way over further to the east proposing to come in there.
] thought it was going around.
Yes, goes across the back on the north line and then comes down there where
they’re proposing is just right at the edge.
(CAN NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT IS BEING SAID, USED CLOSED
CAPTIONING) Currently it drops right down that aisle, but it’s not going to be there. It’s going
to be extreme
One of the towns concerns is an image from last spring and there was a large
stockpile of mulch in this for a good period of time. As the other properties develop and this
access road becomes heavily used, I just think you should keep in mind not to keep as many
stock piles of mulch in that location.
EVERYONE SPEAKING AT THE SAME TIME.
Okay, so you’re stockpiling your stuff. Probably need to move some of them.
You already got a bunch there, right. You might have to clear it enough so that there’s clearance
around that curve
Especially development, the development on the east of the rental store on the west
side Priean
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The other concern Josh, just is the bad mulch and there’s always those months and
you have rain events phosphorus coming from the mulch that’s going into the storm water
system which could green plumes even more. So, just be careful if your keeping this amount of
storage should really be in an enclosure somewhere.
Yeah, That all. It’s all bagged and sealed. That stuff is not loose. They don’t
scll loose mulch they sell scaled. You have been doing that for yeats now unless a bag geis
broken or something that’s disposed of
e APPROVED FOR PARKING 9 TRAILORS ALONG THE EAST PROPERTY
Casciani/Giardina
Mr. Casciani AYE
Mr. Malta AYE
Mr. Giardina AYE
Mr. Anderson AYE
Mrs. Maltman ABSENT
Mr. Gasic AYE
Mr. Vetter AYE
* Approval of minutes for: February 3, 2026. Motion: Giardina/Casciani
Mr. Casciani AYE
Mr. Malta AYE
Mr. Giardina AYE
Mr. Anderson AYE
Mrs. Maltman ABSENT
Mr. Gasic AYE
Mr. Vetter ABSTAIN
With no other applications before the Board this evening Anthony Casciani concluded tonight’s
meeting at 9:00 PM.
Respectfully Submitted,
Sign J erto~ Dated A, YEO
Mark Giardina, Secretary
Katherine Kolich, Recording Secretary PPR 8°95 anode
FILED WEBSTER THN CLK
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