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One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Would you like to do roll call? >> Supervisor Sheldon >> here. >> Councilman Cahill >> here. >> Councilwoman Wright here. >> Councilman Hunter >> here. >> Councilman Wagner >> here. >> Attorney for the town Taylor >> here. All right. Now, before we begin our usuals, we have very exciting proclamations tonight. So, I would like to invite Chief Colemire um up to the podium to hand out proclamations to Officer Thomas Turner, Adrien Humphrey, and Derek Blakeley. If you would all like to join us up at the podium, please. Now, for those of you who don't know, a few days before Christmas, a woman had driven her car accidentally into the retention pond over at the Koh's Plaza, and these three along with one other heroically jumped in and saved her life.

So, [applause] It is I am very honored to be giving this out right now, but I just want to say a proclamation for heroic action presented to Derek Blakeley, Muhammad Jadoo, Adrienne Humphrey, and officer Thomas Turner. Whereas the courage and empathy required to rescue another life are immeasurable. The town of Webster is fortunate to have those who act in the face of adversity, especially in support of their neighbors in our community. And whereas on December 23rd, Derek Blakeley, Muhammad Jadu, Adrienne Humphrey, and Officer Thomas Turner quickly responded to a dire situation that developed when a vehicle plunged into a pond at Webster Town Center.

Thinking only of the safety of the driver, they entered the frigid water and worked together to rescue the driver from the submerged vehicle. And whereas those these heroes had no knowledge of who was inside the vehicle, nor did they have any knowledge of the identity of the others entering the pond to help, they were united by the mission to save a life in danger. And whereas compassionately Derek, Muhammad, Adrien, and Thomas ensured the driver was secured on land and deemed stable before leaving the sight of the accident. Each of these individuals who entered the water to help are well regarded for their responses when disaster arose and all serve as a powerful example of what it means to look out for the well-being of others.

And whereas the quick response time of these four witnesses led to a successful rescue without serious or life-threatening injuries, what could have been a disastrous situation at the end of 2025 turned out much better thanks to the courageous actions of good Samaritans. Their noble deed and swift action cannot properly be extolled. Now therefore, it be result on behalf of the Webster Town Board in the entire Webster community, we extend our sincerest appreciation for your heroic action and service of Webster. [applause] Chief Cole Meer has a message from family of the woman in question. >> Yeah.

Uh first of all, uh thank you. Uh it goes without saying that putting yourself in danger and again this was not a warm summer day. This was December in upstate New York. That water was frigid. Uh so uh that was a very dangerous situation. Appreciate your your courage. Uh the family is very thankful. Uh they're unfortunately were able to be here tonight. They wanted to. Um the resident that was driving the vehicle was a lifelong Webster resident, 65 years in town. Uh the uh family is very thankful for your efforts and uh wanted to pass along a sincere heartfelt thank you. [applause] >> Now I do want to give you know them a chance to say anything if they want.

I know Adrian you wanted to say a few words but we'd love to hear from you. Uh on that day I Derek was the first one in the water and Muhammad who I didn't have a chance to really talk to that day. Uh I was third in line to get enter the water and officer Turner I thought he was going to arrest us [laughter] for going swimming in the pond. But uh no I just want to say that I'm thankful grateful to be a part of this Webster family. I work part-time in the community development office as assistant building inspector and uh it's a great work environment. So couple days a week I come out and I enjoy it.

Uh also I want to thank my Brighton family and my fiance and I wouldn't be in I'm a transplant so I'm not originally from here so I'm glad to be a part of where life is worth living. WELCOME. [laughter] [applause] >> NO, I want to >> um I grew up in Webster actually. I moved to Eastern quite halfway through high school. Uh I grew up on Phillips Road and um yeah, I love Webster. Um I'm happy I was there at that moment. Um I just want to share a little bit of message about um the things that pushed me to go into the water. Uh last year I was suffering with just a lot of hard times and I quelled those difficult times by going into ice water and training into the ice water.

And I just really want to thank the Lord, God, Jesus, for pushing me to do those things and putting me in that place at the right time because he changes all things to good. And um that suffering that I went through and I went to the ice water for training to help with all of that, he turned all that into a moment where I could save someone's life. And I just think that's so special. It's awesome. Thank you, Jesus. [applause] with you guys and appreciate you all. [applause] >> I just want to say thank you, but I really want you guys to give another round of applause. [applause] [applause] All right, we will now begin the five minutes open to the floor.

Our open to the floor rules, public comment are limited to five minutes per person. Once the five minutes are up, you will be done speaking and we will be moving on to the next. I will wave my hand in the air when you're at four minutes so that you may know that you know you have enough time to wrap it up. If you ask any questions, the board is not entitled to answer. If you wish your questions to be answered, please connect with our town clerk and provide an email address. We are happy to connect with you then. Please respect the speaker at the podium. This means no booing or shouting or disruptions while they are speaking whether or not you agree with them.

threatening statements will not be tolerated. Other than that, um our first person up is Chris Naka, Chris Naka, 1065 Shoe Craft. as they're walking. I just want to thank you all again for your, you know, bravery and that's really special and we need more people like you in the community. That's great. Transplant or not, that's awesome. Good work. Good work. Um, yeah, it's been a it's been a good week. A lot has went on in this room. There's been a lot of good discussions and a lot of um thoughts on what Webster is going to be like in the future. has been taking place a lot of planning and it's good to see a lot of new faces in here and those faces seemingly coordinating with each other to make Webster the best place it can be.

And I just want to say that I'm proud of all of you and I respect all of you and it's nice to be able to come here and talk to you occasionally. >> Thank you. Thank you, Chris. All right, Derek and Adrian signed up, but they have left. Uh >> Kevin, would you like to speak? I know you normally >> Oh, thank you for that. >> No. Okay. >> Absolutely. Of course. Monica, I believe you are. [snorts] >> Did what Chris said. [snorts] Thank you. [laughter] Um, well, one thing is that I want to thank the board for everything and the residents. The other thing is I want to praise the plow drivers. They're doing an excellent job, but there's just one complaint I have and I have a resolution to that.

Maybe um of course you know that I'm you don't know but I shovel out our fire hydrant which is right on because our house is on the corner of 250 and Tall Birch the trail. So there's a fire hydrant right on 250 and it stands back about maybe about 8 10 feet from 250. So I'm out there shoveling all the time. plow truck comes, you know, and puts a little bit of snow back in. So, I shovel that out, too. [clears throat] I'm standing out there, and of course, Dennis wants me to put a a reflective vest on because he says, "You can't be seen. I'm not that small." So, I'm out there and I shoveled it out and the cloud truck comes by and they look at me and, you know, I smile, I wave, and they come by and there's more snow that comes in.

At one point there was snow up to my I would say up to my waist that I had to get rid of out there. The resolution for that would be because I want them coming by by all means is that I've seen them go around the bins that people put out when there's recycle and um garbage being picked up in the morning. I've seen them go around it um and then go back into the um area to plow if they could just when they see a a fire hydrant in the vicinity because you can't miss them because they have the pole up. if they could just maybe pick up that plow part or just go around it without having to push the ex exorbitant amount of snow in.

Because what I also do is I go into the street when there's no cars and I literally make a p not a path. I push this the snow that's where they're um plowing. I pick it up and I put it onto the side of the road so that it's they don't have to come and plow that portion to push through. Am I making sense? >> Yeah. >> Oh, good. because I see it in my mind what I'm saying. Um, and then the part that's on the right side because here's the the area when it's over here, I push it and I I make a big pile over here, you know, so I'm trying not to put it into the street though on occasion I will tell you I have.

Um, so that my only resolution to that would be if they could possibly either lift up the that part of the shovel on the the plow on the side or go around it a little further out into the street with without any cars coming by because I don't want them endangered or anybody else. That's it. But they're doing a great job. No complaints about that. Love Webster. Um, and that's it, I think. Well, I did have something else, but it's not important right now. Okay, I don't have I have more time. >> Thank you, Monica. >> One more thing. If you all please shuffle the map every >> True statement. Is there anybody else that would like to come up that did not sign in?

Yep. Please come up. State your name and we will begin your five minutes after. that much. >> Uh name is Scott Steinfeld, been a longtime Webster resident. Um and uh Webster has been doing a great job snowplowing, I would say, especially on the state and county roads. Uh first question I have for the board. Uh I do believe the town gets paid for plowing and salt and county and state roads. Is that correct? Okay, they do. Okay. Um my question is on this uh taxpaying residents and um subdivisions um not getting our uh roads plowed on a continued basis and salted. Uh we do pay taxes. Is there a reason for that?

I don't know of. >> Uh I will if you give us your email we will get to the uh highway superintendent who can answer this question. >> Where do I send the email to? just didn't mean who's >> you can send it to mine and I will get it out. But Pat Stevens is our highway superintendent. >> Okay. Because uh today uh I've had a bunch of I live on a corner or circle and uh I've so far removed four cars from that uh because of ice and uh snow. Uh my cult uh again did not um get plowed today. That's just the first time you know happened to know a lot about the business. So, uh yeah, I live on Cherry Laurel Circle.

They can look it up and see that they didn't plow it yet. And I know that working till 11:00 tonight, I appreciate if they could call someone who's sitting there and whip around that development. It probably be much appreciated. Maybe put a little salt down, too. Um so, that's my biggest complaint. I'm sure a lot of Webster residents um in the community who own houses and developments, because I see them all the time during winter storms, all the time, all hours. So, same thing. They are not getting to the subdivisions in a timely fashion. Other um townships, Penfield, Brighton also spend time in there.

They do. Somehow they figure it out. I watched you guys plow sparks on Route 250 this morning. Okay. But you get paid for it. Drop a plow. You're getting paid for every lane mile you do. You're spreading sparks around. But you don't go in my development. really. So, that's why I'm addressing the town board tonight and also the highway department. I know they're probably not here tonight, but I would appreciate if you do address the highway department. I've dressed them already several times and uh every year this is about the same response. And I think it's time to start taking care of the Webster residents in their neighborhoods.

We pay taxes. I would like you to bring that up to the highway superintendent. Maybe it' be better coming from you than me. And that's really all I say. I noticed the parking lot looks really good out here. It's all nice and salted and dried. So, I'm sure you guys worked hard. I'm sure they worked hard on that. I know as I walking in very looks very good. I can't say the same about my development. I pushed out a car tonight before I came here. So, out of my front yard. >> All right. Yeah. No. Um, just if you give us your email contact, we will get >> No, I'll I'll email you my my contact. >> Absolutely.

Yeah. We'll get right in touch with you. >> All right. Appreciate it. Thank you. Of course. [applause] All right. Is there anybody else? No. All right. So, we will move on to regular town business then. Uh have removed the minutes for the workshop and meeting on January 22nd. So, I would make a motion that we approve the minutes from the January 22nd workshop. >> Second. >> Supervisor Sheldon. I, >> Councilman Cahill. >> I, >> Councilwoman Wright, >> I, Councilman Hunter, >> I, >> Councilman Wagner. [snorts] >> I, >> I would also like to make a motion to approve the minutes of the January 22nd town board meeting.

>> Second. >> Supervisor Sheldon. >> I, >> Councilman Cahill, >> I. Councilwoman Wright, >> I. >> Councilman Hunter, >> I. >> Councilman Wagner, >> I. >> Garrett, you had the honors of signing all the papers, so you're up. >> So, I would like to make a motion for consideration to approve bills as submitted by the director of finance. >> Second. >> Councilman Wagner, >> I. >> Councilman Hunter, >> I. >> Supervisor Sheldon, >> I. >> Councilman Cahill, >> I. Councilwoman Wright. >> I >> All right. I would like to make a motion to approve prepaid warrants as submitted by the director of finance. >> Second.

Supervisor Sheldon. >> I. >> Councilwoman Wright. >> I. >> Councilman Cahill. >> I. >> Councilman Hunter. >> I. >> Councilman Wagner. >> I. I would like to make a motion to approve purchase orders as submitted by the director of finance. >> Second. >> Supervisor Sheldon. >> I. >> Councilman Hunter >> I. >> Councilman Cahill. >> I. >> Councilwoman Wright >> I. >> Councilman Wagner >> I. >> All right. I would like to make a >> Oh, yeah. Uh Paul, as we are looking to approve budget transfers and budget amendments, are there any comments that you have as a director of finance? >> I'll give you a little explanation.

Uh Alex, yeah, most of these are just year-end cleanup. Uh a lot of uh smaller transfers between accounts. Uh but it also includes um Gazsby 87 and GA gazby 96 adjustments uh which you're not going to understand but it it's an entry [clears throat] that needs to be made at the end of the year to reclassify expenditures for leases. Uh [snorts] they are reclassified to debt, principal, and interest. Um it's a governmental accounting thing. We do it every year. So, I had to shift some money around to cover those just from one lease account to debt accounts. Um, and there was one budget amendment and that that basically was inspired by the same thing also Gatsby related.

So, that's the most of it. >> Paul Paul, technical accounting question for you on that. Do you just make those entries at year end? It's like a onetime thing, not on a monthly basis. >> Correct. They're for 2025. They're made as of 123125. >> Makes sense. Okay. >> And yeah, you're right. Gazsby 86 and 87. Not super >> Yeah. >> exciting. >> Yeah. I'm not a fan. >> Anyone else [clears throat] have any questions? >> No. All right. Well, then I would like to make a motion to approve the 2025 budget transfers as presented by the director of finance. >> Second. >> Supervisor Sheldon. >> I. >> Councilman Cahill.

>> I. >> Councilwoman Wright. >> I. Councilman Hunter, >> I. >> Councilman Wagner, >> I. >> And following up on that, I would like to make a motion to approve the 2025 budget amendments as presented by the director of finance. >> Second, >> Supervisor Sheldon. >> I. >> Councilwoman Wright, >> I. >> Councilman [snorts] Cahill, >> I. >> Councilman Hunter, >> I. >> Councilman Wagner, >> I. >> All right. This next one we have Maria Dwire from our building department to explain a bit more about why we are utilizing the uh Kier's engineering for services for the fast New York grant. For those of you who don't know it is a grant that we received that was written via WEDA the Webster economic development alliance uh that goes through the town and the village.

I believe both are we build equally. We reached out to Maria to see if she could do any of the grant administration herself. However, given the scope of the project, uh she recommended that we go with Kers. So, she is available if any board members have any questions regarding this. >> I do. >> If you would please. [laughter] >> Thank you, Maria. >> You're welcome. >> Hello. >> I'm sorry I asked you a question this afternoon. I >> You're going to be one and done, John. >> Yeah. I I was hoping [laughter] um but we're passing a resolution to pay Kier's 40,000 and I know the village is involved in this too.

So it's 40 >> for the village also. Yeah. >> I'm assuming that they have to pass a resolution to also pay them. Correct. >> I would assume so. >> Okay John, that is correct. Uh both village and the town are going to be responsible for their respective portions. If there's any um any services offers that is for both the town and the village, it'll be split evenly. >> Perfect. >> Thank you. >> You're welcome. >> Uh Nick, any questions? >> No, I'm all set. Thank you, Maria. Jen, >> the only question is the amount on the um the amount on the contract because I know that CERS has worked on the comprehensive plan, but was there any comparison pricing or a mini bid or any other um >> um because Collier is the interim director of WEDA?

Um I believe it was WEDA's decision to get the Collier's uh estimate. So it's not really the town or the village having any control over that process because [snorts] WEDA is who wrote the grant. So t typically when you write a grant whoever that agency is that was awarded is the the main person the uh main contact all the information flows from them. So we didn't have any of that process to be involved in. I can tell you that the contract is a time and materials contract. So um the effort will be build but any effort that we put in as a town will make that dollar amount draw down slower. >> Okay.

And I saw it was time and materials and I was just questioning the hourly rate >> um because I'm not really keenly aware of what a municipal project manager would make. So I'm just questioning the hourly rate and is that um you know competitive and reasonable price to approve. That's all. >> I'm I'm not the expert in that area. So I wouldn't be able to um give a yes or no. >> It's a good question. >> So now with K you're involved with WEDA, is this something in the past that Matt Chatfield would have had a role in doing and we wouldn't have had to pay this money because Matt would have been >> Well, you the town and the village and the other agencies that make up WEDA still pay a fee into WEDA.

>> Correct. >> I don't know if it's a yearly or whatever. >> Yeah, it's yearly. >> It's annually. Yes. Um but yes, Matt typically would have handled that, but Matt also always worked outside the scope because Matt loved Webster, still loves Webster. He still lives here. >> Yes. >> Um so it's hard to compare an organization who is um professional and you know a much larger group rather than one very dedicated person. But it's still good for us to plan as we think about that role in in WEDA because we do pay for we paid for Matt now we pay for Kier this is on top of it as we balance at what point do we hire someone to do that now we're paying extra Matt we're paying an extra 40,000 on top of it we're probably now up to 80 or 90 a year to Kier >> well we don't pay for Matt anymore because >> but his equivalent all that money goes to Kier now >> yes in Kier so so yes >> so at this point now we're paying worked out of the scope and Calier is not working out of scope to a customer.

>> Yeah, but this is a different conversation to have regarding WEDA because they also do not have benefits that they have to pay to this individual. So, it is a contractor. So, there is a savings in the end. >> So, there's no conflict here is what you're saying? >> No. >> Okay. >> Just something my point is something to think about from a budgetary thing of Yes. If we do this just continue to monitor that weed piece as we continue to spend more money with Matt gone because yes, Matt did a lot. Absolutely. Matt is amazing. With him gone, Kier's not gracious. They're going to bill us time materials.

At what point does it make sense to say, "We need to hire someone again or bring this to the town." >> Separate conversation. But we've got to now monitor that because these dollars quickly >> add up, >> are adding up. >> Great point. If there's no further questions, I mean, someone want to make a motion on this. I'll make a resolution to authorize the the supervisor to sign a contract with Collier's Engineering for grant administration services related to the FAST New York grant in the amount not to exceed $40,000. >> Second. Councilman Hunter >> I. >> Councilwoman Wright >> I. >> Supervisor Sheldon.

>> I. >> Councilman Cahill. >> Hi. >> Councilman Wagner. >> I. John, this next one's all you. >> Okay. I'll move to uh approve to go out to bid for chemicals for the wastewater treatment plant. Sodium hydroite bulk feric chloride solution bulk. >> Just so everybody is aware, these are standard and bookkeeping things that we do every year for our wastewater treatment plant. >> But I also second. >> Councilman Cahill. >> I. >> Supervisor Sheldon. I >> Councilwoman Wright >> I >> Councilman Hunter >> I >> Councilman Wagner >> I >> All right, so the next one we were originally looking to do a workshop on, but Paul says he could probably do a quick explanation here.

Um, for those of you who are not aware, uh, currently all of our vouchers, POS, and everything are signed by paper. It requires our board members to come in and actually sit there for a couple hours signing sheets. Uh there is a complicated system called Munis where we could electronically enter everything. But in order to explain, we're looking to temporary part-time position to serve as project manager for this. But Paul can explain this infinitely better than anybody else. >> I'll give you some background on this. As [clears throat] you know, uh, Brighton Connard, our HR director, uh, retired last week, and over the past few years, he's become our lead systems administrator for Munus, our financial software system.

So, he had been working with Kim Handy to implement the paperless process. Um, didn't quite get it done. Uh so he has actually expressed interest in coming back for a 60 to 90day temporary part-time position to complete the implementation. So the the open items include testing at the department level to obtain feedback which I think is very important. Uh then we want to utilize that feedback to determine which process and which inter internal control structure to adopt. uh we'll develop and run various test scenarios and then develop the workflow for the employees and the department heads within the system.

So Brighton like to come back um I would welcome his help. So that's what this one is all about and I think it would take place between March and the end of June. I really don't foresee him working more than like 20 hours a week. may be focused on this one task. >> Now, I would like uh to be able to have the board ask questions and so the public can be aware of, you know, what questions we're asking and what this entails. So, Garrett, do you have anything to start? >> Yeah, I mean, I'll go next. I met with Paul and Kim earlier this week for an hour and kind of went through a little background on the project, what's going on and you know essentially you know to shorten the long story in the interest of time.

They tried to get this going in the fall with three departments. No one participated whatsoever. And we talked through some of the bottlenecks and issues and what needs to be done. And we identified, you know, the best next case is to go with the sewer department because Maryanne and sewer used to work entering bills. So, she's got experience in the system and the knowledge. So, she's that best beta test to move into. and that doing for 30 days will give us some good feedback to look at what's working, what's not, what do we need to change as we go. We discuss some questions on there and they're pretty nuanced questions we get from an accounting standpoint of like a purchase order under $800, do we attach an invoice, do we not, etc.

So, it seems like there's something we can move forward with Maryanne in sewer and get some beta testing directly. The biggest issue where we have a gap which we'll have to flush out with Brien is right now to make this system work you create workflows and rules around the payables and the bills and where they go. Right now Bray is the only one that knows how to do that. So either we'll have to have them come in and train or we'll have to as part of this if this work ends up being necessary that can be a separate part of the engagement. And we also discussed for now having Paul and Kim in accounting be the ones that understand those workflow rules verse it because when they start this project there's going to be a lot of changes you know on a daily basis this works this didn't we got to change it it's way easier for them in accounting to I see an issue I can fix it first they see an issue I put a ticket into it I wait for them to get there I try and work with them they're gone and then I find another one.

So we were able to make some good progress in an hour and I'm happy to kind of still be involved with that and help them. I've got experience in that and it's something that's clearly important and I talked to Councilman Cahill as well that's the the leaison to sewer same thing this time with the sewer department we're all on the same page right sewer department is going to be our first guinea pig and John is going to work with Rick to make sure that Maryanne has the bandwidth the capacity and the direction to do this so we can get that first beta test to see what works and continue to roll out >> so are you a proponent of hiring Braden or just having him on an on call basis as roadblocks present.

>> I think at this point we need to see as roadblocks present itself. We've got enough to kind of get that ball rolling on sewer and see how it goes. If it blows up out of control and it's more than Paul Kim and myself can kind of navigate and we say, "Oh my god, we we're totally >> I still haven't I haven't had a conversation with the sewer department yet." >> Yeah. >> I don't know if you have or not. >> No. >> So I think that's like the first step. Maybe consider tableabling this tableabling this for now and then >> and then we can see as it goes like what you know one of the things we looked at with what department to go next it was a mix between their capacity their knowledge and how many invoices so for example Denine you're very techsavvy but you do very few invoices so like you doing this for 6 months would give us like six test cases which is not enough so we had to specifically pick which it would be and we looked at sewer highway and parks and racks Maryanne has the most accounting experience, so this is the easiest lift for her.

>> Well, I need to have a conversation with Rick and Maryanne because I know that um they put a lot I don't know how much, but she she is doing additional work. >> Correct. >> Um outside her normal scope of work at the uh sewage treatment plant. So, I think it definitely warrants having a conversation with Rick Maryanne. >> Yes. >> And then giving the feedback to you. I this is a reminder that we are not hiring Brighton. This is just to authorize the ability to have this authorize it so we can hire him. >> So we could go down this road, authorize it and then not hire him. Also, Paul, quick question.

If we do not go with Brighton, what are we looking at in terms of cost as we have to hire Munice if we do not do Brighton? >> Yeah, we've done it before. Uh Tyler Technology offers support. It's roughly $150 an hour. Um, as part of this process, I think we've done four sessions with them, four four hour sessions. Um, they they would take more of that. So, we'd be expending I'd say at least four or $5,000 anyway. Um, and I think it's more worthwhile to have uh Brighton here. He could devote more hours and he's got the inside knowledge of our system. >> What's his hourly rate? Did he Did he say what the hourly rate was?

Uh he's about 4962 an hour. >> That's just not really right. >> Yeah. So it's still early in the process to kind of figure it out of you know what it is. I don't know if we just need to vote on this tonight because we definitely need to get it going and kind of see a little bit further where it is. What's the best use? How much time do we really need to spend with Munis versus Braden versus our team? you know what is there little drops that Brian can come and do and help with. You know, at the end of the day before he left, it would have been great if he trained at least someone to do >> Yes. >> the workflow cuz that's >> we can't use this without >> this project's been going on for like a year, right?

>> We started talking about this in probably February of last year. The software was purchased in April, May time frame maybe. >> Yeah, I think it I think we had the software right by the end of May it was installed. U >> so the so there were there there there's plenty of time to do it and I know there was a lot of other things going on and a lot a lot of these changes it's it has to do with change management and change is difficult um and and I understand that. So it really has to be that tops down mandate to make it a priority. Um, a a project like this will at the end of the day once it's sorted out have a pretty significant cost savings for the town because you're printing a lot of paper.

You have to not only spend time coming into the town hall to sign the papers, they also have to be stored and we have to pay to storm for seven years. if something needs to be retrieved, you got to go find the box and find the box it's in and sort through to find the exact document that needs to be retrieved, which I did ask him that. And it doesn't happen a lot, but it happens I don't know, at least a couple times a month. So there's and then and then the other departments actually have to take their stacks of paper and drive them to town hall for highway that's not here, parks and wreck is not here, sewer is not here.

So when you you think about all of the time in the paper, there's definitely cost savings, but again, I recognize that it's difficult. One question I have is when we purchased the software, were there any hours uh consulting hours that were built into the what we paid? >> Yeah, there were some uh installation and consulting hours that were initially included. Um I might add also that we are already using this. Uh Kim and I use it. Uh all our journal entries, all the documentation for those are in retroactively for a year. All our receipts, all those documents are in. Um HR's been utilizing it.

So [clears throat] we're already already taking advantage of the of the software. We're just accounting been that first step. Yeah. >> Yeah. And that's that's kind of the interesting point that I kind of want to bring it back to the residents and just kind of like clear a little bit what it is that we're voting on. So we have this system munice which is our financial reporting system that we've been using. It has capabilities to take us into the modern age to make us be digital so that we're not having to use so much paper or significant amount of paper every month. Um so the idea is it's really a re resource allocation issue in that we want to move forward with continuing developing this system that we already have to be able to use it in these appropriate ways to bring us in the modern age and how do we best afford that resource allocation.

So Brighton who recently retired has been working on this and is willing to stay on for a little bit. So we do have an opportunity to work with him. Um, so just to kind of bring back to Jennifer, you were making some really good points and that it's ultimately long term it's going to save us a lot of money. Um, and we do have an opportunity with Brighton right now and it may be helpful not to have a gap in pushing this down the line and all of the sudden we're six months and maybe we don't have Brighton as an opportunity and then we're forced to pay 150 hours or $150 an hour. So just to think about the risks in this and it's everybody's opinion but I think it's good to move forward and to move forward timely um would benefit us.

>> Yeah. I mean my opinion >> would be billing us through his consulting firm. Is that correct? Or would he be a W2 employee? >> No, he'd be billing us as an independent contract. >> So he probably will in all reality be be available. I would assume >> this is W2. Yeah. >> Yeah. He's not a W2, right? >> This piece will be a W2. >> Oh, he will be an employee. >> Yeah. >> Okay. But yeah, I mean >> I'm definitely a proponent of this trying for 30 days engagement and not a W2. >> No, that's why you would come back as a part-time employee just for three months. >> And who who does this position report to?

>> Pardon? >> Who does this position report to? >> Uh I guess technically report to me. So, have any of the other departments tried this system and just are kind of pushing back against it? >> No, because the roll out was done in sewer, highway, and parks and wreck this fall. >> It was both they got there was a training session in each and then no one actually did anything with it. There was zero test cases done once the train was done. So, we set up the time to not only part of this train, we're getting in the weeds. I apologize folks. Part of the train that was set up was there was there is our accounting system we use daily basis with live data.

They created a a test accounting system that they could test these in. So if they did something wrong it wouldn't break it. So we created a whole secondary accounting system to do the test in then no one used it. >> Nope. What >> not a single person parks and recck sewer and high and parks and recck sewer and highway entered I believe is did not enter a single invoice. Yeah, >> correct. >> So, so we brought the people in utiliz >> we had the training session. Yes. >> We set up an accounting system so if you made a mistake, >> it wouldn't anything. >> Correct. >> And their departments didn't do anything with it.

So now we're going to bring in somebody else. We're >> bring the same person back. >> We're going to bring the same person back. >> Yeah. >> To do the same thing all over again. which is why I was referring to the organizational change piece and expectation setting. >> The department heads are aware that if this happens, they are expected to use this because we are not going to waste our time and money that if that there are required. I believe that Chris Bo is already going to be planning on doing it with parks and wreck. Uh Garrett mentioned using sewer. So I believe we do have enough at this point that are told that they have to use it at this and the last year the excuse was that it was the end of the year.

things got real complicated. They don't have that excuse this time. So, if we do spend this money, if we do opt to do this, they will be using it. >> Actually, uh Jenny from parks and wreck and Allison from the highway told me today that they will do testing in the within the next week. >> And then we just got to figure out the scope of that testing of what do we need. You know, ultimately I have experience with this in my background. I'm happy to help. I'm not sure at this time, you know, we need to bring Brian in to add true value to this project. I don't want to get more into details than that, but that is my opinion that we should table this motion for now as we further go and see the best use for >> Is that your motion?

You can make a motion to table it. >> I make a motion to table resolution nine. Do I have to fully >> Yeah. >> I make a motion to table resolution 9 to authorize a temporary part-time position to serve as project manager for the transition to electronic vouchers ending on June 30th, 2026. >> Second. >> Councilman Wagner, >> I. >> Councilwoman Wright, >> I. >> Supervisor Sheldon. >> Nay. >> Councilman Cahill. >> I. >> Councilman Hunter. >> Nay. >> All right. Uh the next one was originally going to be a resolution to authorize us to sign an updated engagement letter with the town's labor attorney.

However, after Kyle reviewed this uh that we want to narrow the scope a little bit more um on that. So I am making a motion to reschedu that for two weeks from now. >> So to table >> reschedule Jen >> res tableabling takes it off the agenda until it's a motion made to bring it back. rescheduling actually sets a a firm date. >> Can we be clear on what we're asking them to do so we're ready the next time it comes up? >> Yes, I'll I'll engage with the uh the firm on tightening up the >> Okay. Because I I had the same criticisms you did of it wasn't clear with its scope what it was for. >> Yeah. >> So, clearing the scope up and then going through an expected budget for the two for that.

Those are the two main changes we want to see. >> Yes. >> Yeah. Correct. >> Okay. Thank you. >> I second. >> Supervisor Sheldon. >> Hi. >> Councilman Hunter. >> Hi. >> Councilman Cahill. >> Hi. >> Councilwoman Wright. >> I. >> Councilman Wagner. >> Hi. >> All right. The next one. Uh it's our good friend Paul again to explain the federal tax credit compliance services for MS consultants. >> Yes. Uh we've received an engagement letter from MSC LLC. It's actually a subsidiary of Bonadillo. Uh this is to perform the federal tax credit services in conjunction with the renewable energy project. As you know, Navatas is currently doing the planning and design for the project.

And there's one first step that we need MSC to do uh in concurrently as Navatas is planning. Uh we need to ensure that we comply with the IRS 8020 rule. Uh which essentially means you have to value the assets that you're replacing and compare that value to what you're paying for the new assets. They're replacing those old assets. And it has to be an 8020 ratio. We looked at this uh when we did the safe harbor memo uh kind of superficially and you know it looks like we're fine, but uh we actually need MSSE to dig in and uh do a do a really good valuation and document the entire process so we make sure we have a good leg to stand on uh with the IRS.

That way when the plant comes back from Navatas, we'll be certain uh that we're ready to go. >> So I got >> gives us more certainty as far as getting the tax credit. >> Right. So, my concern here, obviously everyone knows I'm not a proponent of the RNG pro um project, but I when I read through this from a logistical standpoint, >> it just seems to me that before we committed to spend $438,000 on design >> 348 >> 348. Okay. We probably should have passed this resolution first and gotten this information. I know timing is of of the essence, but this is going to take 60 to 90 days. How and if it comes back negative that we're not going to meet these standards.

How much money of taxpayer dollars in the thousands of dollars have we wasted? I mean, is there any way to recoup that? >> Well, I don't even know how long how far down the road they are with the design. >> Yeah. I mean, we hired with them to provide a safe harbor memo. Um, and the conclusion was that we were good to go, but this is they think we're fine with the 8020 rule with them is, but you know, we just need the documentation now. >> So, you know, Paul, >> it's not guaranteed. That's correct. That's that's the issue I have is it >> the tax the revenue is not guaranteed and the tax credits are not guaranteed.

That's that's my issue. And it just seems to me this should have come first, right? That's that's that's my issue. >> And I thought it did come first with the WHM evaluation saying we were good. So, I thought the we were good and we paid $45,000 for them to tell us we're good to to hear that that was good superficially for $45,000 and now it's another $121,000 to say that we're really really good. >> No, this first piece is >> So, and that's where like,000. >> Yes. So, there's >> $300 an hour is what they're billing. >> Yeah. But still like >> seems exorbitant. But just to clarify, Jennifer, like we're getting in the really in the weeds in CPA firm landscape and verbiage here.

The first one was like a general like you're 80% good. We're we're not going to you don't want to pay all the money to get all the way down to 100%. What are you 80% of the way there? To John's point, the 8020 rule and to Paul's is the next most critical step. It's the only step that we need to do first and foremost to ensure it's done. I'm I'm not I'm not questioning what you're saying, >> but sadly just let me in the engagement letter, the proposal MSC provided, phase one had the 8020 rule test in there. Unfortunately, the engagement letter they provided does not have the 8020 test rule in phase one.

So, their engagement letter is inaccurate. It needs to be updated to just the 8020 test and we should still then push them to come a little bit lower in the price they charge Webster. So, >> because >> my my guess it wasn't it was just an oversight by them of they updated the proposal. >> Yeah. their team forgot to update the engagement letter, but they don't match. And what we sign is Kyle will tell us the engagement letter is what's legally binding. So ancillary step aside, the engagement letter needs to be updated. It's not yet ready for us to vote on because it's not right. It needs to be changed in scope and in price.

>> Agreed. So would they be able I presume they would be able to at least leverage some of the work that did to >> Yeah. >> that would help bring the cost down potentially. >> Yes. And there's still some negotiating room you could have with any accounting firm or service provider like this of hey like that's the first offer. You can always come back and say hey let's get a look because you know WHM gave us a proposal which I think WHam's proposal Paul was what 300 to do this >> uh or 280. >> Yeah. Well, it was a minimum of 150,000, but they had other uh lines in there that could have taken it to well over 200,000.

>> So, we've already kind of stop shopped around a little bit of living was really expensive. MSE is less. We can probably get MSE a little bit lower, but ultimately the engagement letter still needs to be corrected to just phase one is just the 8020 test. All that other stuff is really irrelevant because why do I registration XYZ? If we can't pass the 8020 test, >> all that other stuff is money wasted because if we fail that, great. You put us in the IRS system that we could apply for this credit that we'll never get. >> Paul, how do you how long do you think it would take for them to correct their proposal and engagement >> a day?

It's it's a word doc. >> All right. >> Send an email to them. Get their admins to work on it. We'll get it back. >> Is the 60 to 90day timeline. Is that realistic here, >> Paul? I think so. >> And we can probably ask him and push him, you know. John, we haven't really had we only had one conversation with him, right, Paul? After we voted for the RNG, have you had followup with them yet with MSC on the scope and timing? >> Mhm. >> I mean, do you think we can get that time frame down? >> Yeah. >> Okay. Because I think John to your ultimate point that the sooner we can know that, so we feel like do we need to tell Navatas to stop doing design work to not spend 340 for a waste >> is going to make us feel better.

So if we can >> really MSE, >> I'm just trying to look out for the taxpayers. >> Yeah. MSSE, get us a proposal for just phase one, just the 8020 thing. Get it done ASAP, >> right? >> We'll all then feel better. >> Can they get us done? >> Yeah. Then we'll all feel better. >> Yes. Then we'll all feel better with what's going on. >> Paul, you told me earlier today that this engagement letter is broken up into several phases. >> It's broken into four phases. >> Yes. >> Yeah. One one bite at a time. >> Okay. So we don't need an engagement letter for each phase. >> Right. >> Kyle, your opinion on this as you are lawyer.

>> Should we just make a motion to table this >> reschedule >> or reschedule? >> Reschedule. But uh Councilman Wagner has raised some concerns both in the scope as well as the price. So I think it'd be appropriate to reschedule and engage with MSC. >> Okay. >> Paul, would rescheduling for two weeks from now put a damper in any of the work that needs to be done? Uh, well, it just pushes the tax work out two more weeks, but I don't think it's a big deal. >> All right. >> I think it's unavo I think it's it's not avoid it's unavoidable, Alex, too. Like, we can't >> we don't have any choice. >> Yeah.

>> All right. I make a motion to reschedu our uh engaged signing our engagement letter with MS Consultants. >> I second. >> Supervisor Sheldon. >> I. >> Councilman Wagner, >> I. >> Councilman [clears throat] Cahill, >> I. Councilwoman [snorts] Wright. >> I. >> Councilman Hunter. >> Hi. >> All right. Up next. Uh, well, Kyle, you want to explain the comprollers issues and why we have to do all this next one? I'll do I'll do my best. Uh, this is an ongoing saga dates back until 2021. When expanding a sewer district, there's strict rules that uh we have to follow. The town has been working with the state controllers's office, like I said, since 2021.

Um, we did gain approval for the extension of that Woodard Road sewer district back early uh 2025. Um, however, when the bids came back, they were substantially higher and exceeded the threshold that the comproller had approved. So, unfortunately, we're now in a position where we have to go back and amend our application to the comproller to adjust for the increase in cost. Uh right now, uh Maryanne um is doing a great job in outreach with the folks on Woodard Road to keep them in the loop as well as preparing the um necessary paperwork and working with an attorney out of the controllers's office so that we can ensure that we're successful uh on our next application.

Uh so the the next step is to uh pass a resolution to set a public hearing uh to increase the amount uh that we're seeking approval for for the Woodard Road extension. So this is an increase that the state controllers office or the New York state pays or each resident that wants to connect >> each resident will be built for and the controllers's office puts out um kind of like a a pricing schedule as to what they think that the appropriate rates are. If you exceed that per household rate, you then have to go get comprollers's opinion and approval to exceed that. Um, unfortunately it seems as though what what they believe to be an appropriate cost falls far far short of uh what reality tells us when we get these bids back.

Um, so we we did get approval for I believe it was 194,000 back in early 2025. But the bids Paul, do you remember what the bids have come back at now? >> Uh, yeah. The lowest bid was 259,000. The highest was like 550,000. There's a big there was a big swing >> substantial increase. Um but that's why the the outreach to the residents is important in trying to move as quickly as possible. >> So the only question you okay with the increase? >> Well, that's what that's my question. Have the residents bought into this increase >> or does that change the whole process? [snorts] >> Maryann, would you like to come up and uh explain to them what the residents have been saying so far?

So, I did let the residents know that we had to go through this process again. They do not know exactly what the price will be because we won't know that until the project is completed once we know what is spent each homeowner will know what's going to be the final cost that they're going to have put on their taxes every year. Um, unfortunately [laughter] it keeps going up and up and up. The latest that we had, they were at about $1600 a year, and that was at the 194 that the state approved because they wanted to finance it for 30 years. Um, there's only six homes that are involved in the sewer project.

So, because the bid came in $60,000 over. >> Yeah. >> Um the lowest bid we have to rebid it and hope that we get the approval in a timely fashion so that the bids don't go up even more. And then once we decide who we're going to pick to do the project and get that bid going and get the project completed, then we'll know exactly. But we can give them an estimate based on the lowest bid that we received this last time. >> But it's only six homes. >> Yep. >> Are they all committed? And if one drops out, then it goes up for everybody else. >> So, no. So, there are six homes that are involved and as long as 51% of the homeowners say that they want to proceed with the sewer project, even if you don't connect to the sewers, five of them are committed.

There's one that has never shown up for anything, but we've constantly included them and everything. Um, they still have to pay because they're part of the project because they're in the middle of the project. What is it? What's a turnaround time with a cop troller? >> It's a long It's been bad. They've been very bad about this. >> Which is why we pushed this one for this public hearing is because these residents have been waiting long and >> Oh, yes. >> We started the first application in August of 2022. >> And then they made us resubmit in August of 2023. And then they made us send additional items in 2024.

And then they finally handed it over to somebody who was a little more realistic to deal with. And Charlie Janessie and I started working with her in February of and she helped us get the approval within a year. >> Wow. >> Oh my. >> Yeah. And the March 5th public hearing was the soonest we could. We tried getting it sooner. Denine Kyle and I worked on it, but this is the absolute quickest we could get this stuff done because we we want to expedite this as much as >> Let's get going. >> John, it is your department. So, do you want to >> Where are we? I'm going to move to set a public hearing on March 5th to consider increasing a dollar amount threshold for the consolidated sanitary sewer district uh specifically at the watered road extension and to be published uh in the February 18th, 2026 edition of the Webster Herald.

>> Second. >> Thank you. >> Councilman Cahill. >> Hi. >> Councilwoman Wright. >> I. >> Supervisor Sheldon. >> I. >> Councilman Hunter. >> Hi. >> Councilman Wagner. >> Hi. Thank you. >> All right, last item on our agenda here uh is a resolution for a proposed send a proposed cell tower to the planning board. Now, I do believe there are people from Verizon here. Would you guys like to speak? >> Sure. Good evening. Uh Robert Bergdorf for the law firm, Nixon Peabody here tonight on behalf of Verizon Wireless and also with me for the record is Kathy Pomponio, project manager, Nico Facy, who's the VCW site acquisition consultant.

Uh this is an application for 125 ft monipole for a cell site facility at the intersection of Lake Road and Monroe Wayne County Line Road on 100 foot lease parcel from uh a lease from Windmill Farms. Um, we won't make a full presentation tonight unless the board wanted it. I'll just very briefly summarize it because it's only a referral tonight. Um, in the submitted materials, we'll rely on the submitted materials. You'll find the RF justification report setting forth why uh this facility is needed in order to provide adequate service to this cell. you'll find a search area showing the technical area within which it must be located in order to work and provide adequate coverage and how it properly works off of the neighboring cells.

Again, we've spent a lot of time in front of this board. I know some folks are new uh talking about the limited flexibility as to where this can be placed within the network and still meet network design uh criteria. You'll also find in there a site selection analysis. It sets forth the search of potentially acceptable locations within the search area uh that led us to this proposed site. And you'll also find other items that are required under the code, structure reports, EM compliance report, FCC licenses, photo simulations, and everything else required by the code. Procedurally, uh this has to go to county under 239M.

So, I'm assuming the town has already sent it to county. Uh it also will require a data notices prior to public hearings. So we assume that those will be sent out and tonight we're only in front of this board for a referral to the planning board where we will where we will go for site plan approval and then to the ZBA uh for the height variance of 25 ft and um then back to this board for the special permit. Um also set forth in the materials and as was described at previous meetings um the approval standards are different from what's in the code. It's regulated both by federal law and state law.

Um, and happy to go into that to the extent the board wants, but in the end, a facility has to be approved that it works from a technical standpoint without unreasonable cost, unreasonable delay within search. Uh, and we believe we've scrubbed that well. We believe we found the best site, but you have all the materials to um, weigh in on that. And with that, unless the board has any other questions, >> I have a referral. >> Nick, >> thank you, John. >> Nope. >> I have a quick question. >> Sure. Um, I appreciate the alternative sites. I saw that. Um, and and I don't believe we had that last time, the the the alternative sites to the Creekide site.

So, I appreciate that being in this packet. Um, also just curious, I I know the answer to this is probably no, but I'm going to ask anyways. Will th this one help at all with the gap that currently exists in that area of uh 250 that is north of Clem? >> I'm not sure which one you're talking about. If you're talking about the the the area that will be covered by what was called the Webster North cell when we were here before. >> Yes. >> Okay. No, this is not is a completely different one. Oh, I I know this is a completely different one and it's further away, but will it help that situation at all or it's just completely >> No, this is much too far away.

It's a whole different cell, whole different coverage area. We have uh found a site and we'll be making that application shortly for the Webster North uh replacement site. >> All right. So, we'll be expecting another one coming through then for that. >> Correct. Okay. Thank you, >> Garrett. Any questions? >> Nope. >> Josh, how many neighbors There's very few neighbors to this site. Is that correct? >> Yeah, there's probably maybe four or five residential, >> right, >> homes in the city, >> which is significantly different than last time. >> Okay, great. Thank you. >> Yeah, we won't have that same ability to be in a rural area for the alternate Webster North site, right?

We'll be that'll be in a very dense area and uh uh we'll be >> well, you you'll see we make that application. It's not for tonight. >> Yep. Thank you. Well, with that, I will make a motion to refer a proposed 125- foot tall Verizon cell tower to the planning board for the purpose of conducting site plan review located at the southwest corner of County Line and Lake Roads Tax ID 037.03144. >> Second. >> Supervisor Sheldon. >> I councilman Hunter. >> I. >> Councilman Cahill. >> I. >> Councilwoman Wright, >> I. Councilman Wagner. >> Hi. >> All right. Uh, backed by popular demand before anything else though is our board's round table.

Um, so I didn't know we were doing that tonight. >> Yeah, I keep getting asked about it. I didn't see the email. >> I'm totally unprepared. I know you got >> I am sure you can come up with something, John. >> Um, Garrett, would you like to start us off here? I mean, I guess so. I got called on. >> Um, >> what did you just say you got a code on? >> No, since I got since I got called on, I guess I'll go first. >> You know, I you know, I think for me, like we've heard from the residents recently, and we see this across the country, like the political divide in our country is not great right now. And one of the nice things about stepping into this locally is at the local level, it's really not about politics.

It's not about party. Like, you hear us up here, we're not debating Republican and Democratic issues. We're up here just as people trying to work together. And you see that tonight like this isn't exciting, but this also isn't like partisan. Like we're discussing cell towers and contracts with vendors and accounting systems and like accounting rules like but it's how it is like it's a community coming together and I appreciate especially Cahill, Councilman Cahill and Jennifer right here of working together with all of us to like in the best interest of Webster because that's what it's about, right?

Coming together. >> The the accounting part is really boring. >> Yes. >> And you're really good at it. >> Yes, I can agree. It is super boring. >> But but I just want to say like I I've enjoyed that and appreciated that and the residents should know that that like we're all up here. We're just people working as best we can for all of you. It's not a party thing. It's just people up here trying to do the best we can. So thank you. >> 100%. Well said, Jennifer. >> Well, um a few residents stole my thunder sort of on the highway. I do want to acknowledge the hard work that the highway department is doing clearing all of this snow.

This has been a [clears throat] monumental storm and amount of snow and a lot of us have been buried in it for a long time and the highway [clears throat] department, excuse me, works very hard and they have a lot of ground to cover and I know we can't answer questions and the gentleman left and I'm sure Pat will get back to him. Um the roads in the main thoroughfare are are definitely the priority because there's higher traffic on them and we also have sensible salting in Webster because the salt is expensive and we need to ration it. There's been shortages. So that's that's part of the reason why the side streets and subdivisions don't get the same attention as the main roads and it's not about getting money from Monroe County.

It really is about making the roads that all of us need to drive on be safe and they do a great job and every once in a while um there's a casualty mailbox and they take care of those and it's not their fault and it's not they're not out there on purpose trying to just take out as many mailboxes as they can. So, I just wanted to sort of answer that question and acknowledge and I also I I try and touch on the different departments I'm liaison for. So, um the parks and wreck has done a great job and is going to have another wildly successful um summer camp this year. They do a fantastic job at creating more and different and expanded programming and we should be very thankful that we have such a great group of people who are doing >> um really innovative things with our parks and recreation department >> and the reval is >> I was going to say you have a really big department that has a really big project coming on too.

>> Yes. Yes. So and and there'll be more community engagement sessions on that. So, there's a lot there's there's always a lot going on in the town, and it never ceases to amaze me what it takes to run a town of our size. >> And I I want to echo Garrett's uh sentiment about us having the conversation that while it is boring, it is important that all of us are heard up here, which is why, you know, you listen to these conversations of us talking about this, it's on public record. It's it's you're understanding that, you know, we're actually asking these questions. And I think that if we were to just get all of our information in secret and or by ourselves and then not answer any of your guys' questions that it would just look like we're just blanketly voting down.

So having these conversations with all of our different backgrounds is vitally important to being a very transparent government. >> John, yeah, it's always it's always good to have different points of view. And the one thing that I like is about this board is um you know, we're all engaged. We do our research. We don't just come up here and just vote. You know, we can vocal vocalize our support or non-support for every project, but we'll typically everyone will will have a a reasoned reason for our viewpoint on any specific project. And to your point, Garrett, with respect to what's going on in this country, it's it's pretty unnerving.

and the more and more that comes out um every single day um gives us pause and and makes me appreciate the fact that I live where I live. I I took the opportunity to speak with the chief and the captain um because there was something nationwide that was concerning me. I'm not going to get into specific as far as a question that I asked, but we have got one heck of a team with the Webster Police Department. You saw it here on full display at the beginning of this meeting. So, thank you, gentlemen. Appreciate it. >> Nicholas, >> I'll second that about the police department. It's been an honor to get to know these guys and I I'm so happy that this town has such a good force to back it.

Um, and I'll second what we're saying pretty much down the line. We we're kind of becoming a team here regardless of the different backgrounds. The idea is that we want to do the best for the town. Um, and we have some complicated things to work through because we are a town. We do have expenditures that we don't have a choice but to pay for, things that we have to maintain and we need to be responsible in how we do that. Um, and every single one of us is thinking about that, thinking about long term how we can set this town up for success so that our kids can enjoy uh the town that we enjoy. So, it's been an absolute pleasure serving for you guys.

It's only been a month, but um, thank you so much. I appreciate the opportunity. Appreciate you guys. >> All right. [laughter] >> Thank you. >> Thank you, ma'am. >> Now, I uh would like to make a motion to enter executive session to discuss employment history of current employees. Jesus, Kylie, you got to get better writing. [laughter] Pursuant to public officers law 105F. >> Did he write that in cursive? That's why you can't read it. >> No, >> that's only Jennifer cursive and Roman numerals. So all Hey.