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These could be your new recruits in about five years, right? Come on over, guys. >> Really? Okay. All right, let's see if I can get this correct. Uh, I'm going to guess Sawyer. Darn it. Who's Sawyer? >> All right. Well, I have a 25% chance. Right now, I'm down to a 33% chance, >> Nathan. >> Yes. >> Hey. Right. You know, I should play the lottery tonight. >> Well, I'm gonna say Mason. Jeez, I'll tell you, this is fantastic. And this is Henry. Not too shabby, huh? After uh I should have done Wordle today. Um so is anybody who is here in attendance or is watching live or uh watching a tape, I bet you can guess what these gentlemen uh these young men are.

Those are some impressive sashes for being Boy Scouts. >> Yes, they are. >> Um and guys, are you all juniors in high school? >> I am. Yeah. >> Junior, >> freshman in college, >> sophomore in high school. Okay. So, it runs the gamut. >> Holy cow. Okay. >> Was in our accelerated program. >> Yeah, I guess. So, um >> that's fantastic. So, I'm going to read this off. uh and each of these are spec specific to you each one of the proclamations you got but this is more general for all four of you so that the crowd can understand what this is about today so whereas the United States largest youth organization scouting America is dedicated to promoting self-reliance courage and patriotism amongst young people in scouting the rank of Eagle Scout is the most prestigious award a scout can earn and is attained only after countless hours of hard work, sacrifice, and commitment to the scouting creed.

And whereas the journey to Eagle Scout is a challenging one, marked by many tasks and responsibilities that only the strongest scouts can overcome and master. And whereas scouts who sought to make a tangible difference in the lives of residents and community organizations and to be a force for good had a long path before them, in-depth planning, budgeting, and volunteer organizing culminated in significant community impact. Whereas these individuals we recognize today not only represent what scouting America is at is at its core but also what stellar citizenship and leadership looks like. They truly deserve this honor.

Now therefore I Thomas J. Clarity, Webster Town Supervisor. On behalf of the entire Webster Town Board, do hereby present this certificate of achievement to Henry Schlaver, Mason Mitchell, Nathan Weston, and Sawyer Zim Zimmy in recognition of earning the rank of Eagle Scout in Scouting America. Congratulations, gentlemen. Um, and you said you wanted Nolan to get a picture. >> Maybe if we stand in front of the town motto and >> Sure, that'd be great. >> The scouts up there. >> Great. >> All right, Bridget, you got this all set. >> Congratulations. >> We have four scouts. We can score evenly on both sides.

>> Can I ask this? Uh, would you like to stretch your legs, town board members, and even on this picture? >> Council men and women. All right. Well, you guys are the stars, right? >> Okay. Oh, excellent. >> Okay. Okay, thank you. >> All right, guys. >> Thank you, COUNCIL. WELL, you know, >> I got to English. >> That was good. By the way, >> okay. >> You know, Chris, you can talk tonight if you want. All right. You get get an extra minute for that joke. >> Um, all righty. >> Okay. So that worked out pretty good. >> That was impressive. >> Yeah, it was pretty cool. >> It really I mean it's it speaks not only to their dedication to scouting but of just their overall character >> and will serve them well in their future years.

>> Um okay, so next up tonight is our open to the floor where each speaker is allowed up to five minutes uh to speak from the podium and uh whatever their heart desires as long as I don't know. It's appropriate, whatever that means. Um and and be we only have two people that signed in tonight. Although if some people streamed in after the sign in that want to speak, we'll certainly allow that. Um you'd think I would have this Kyle down. The three rules of decorum, I guess. Uh one, the only person speaking should be from the podium, the people in the crowd. We're not here to hiss them or whatever if we don't like what they're saying.

We do have freedom of speech in this phenomenal country we live in. Um, two, five minutes. Please don't put me in the position to have to tell you that you're at 4 minutes and 45 seconds. There is no nice way to say it. I always come off sounding like a jerk and I don't want to do that. So, try to keep it to five minutes or less. And uh three, if you decide to use your time at the podium to get up and ask the town board uh 37 questions, we're not going to answer those questions. We will make sure that we get you in char in touch with the appropriate subject matter expert at the town to make sure you get the answers to those questions uh ASAP uh tomorrow or early next week.

So I think those are the three. So, with that being said, uh someone who's not a rookie to this, Dave Mali is first. >> Thank you. Can you hear me? >> Yes, sure can. >> Could you please read what I wrote as a subject that I want to talk about? >> It's where >> Oh, sorry. Uh Dave wrote his topics to discuss. Um thanks to public servants and Bridget and we're not talking about Bridget Harvey, our esteemed uh director of communications. Well, we might be. It's a general message. But first of all, I've been coming to these meetings for better part of a couple years and I've really gained an appreciation for what public servants do.

not not just the elected servants but the paid servants here. Um um Denine and Kyle and the others. Um sincerely appreciate it. I I did give assistant uh superintendent Cataly a uh small token of my appreciation. Of course it says Bridget, but >> thank you. >> It's got a separate meeting for if she wants to share. >> Can I accept this gift? You >> sure? I think you can. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Okay. So, all right. So, that's the first thing. The second thing is stop scooting around and just bridge it 247 365. Uh, any questions? >> Your message is consistent. Thank you, Dave. >> So, I'm I'm talking about the Onlay Bay Bridge outlet for 40 years.

Um, it's really not served the uh public correctly for active transportation. When I talk active transportation, I mean people that want to walk between Ronda Clay and Webster. I'm talking about people that want a bike between Ronda Clay and Webster. It's time to really do something. I don't expect the town of Webster to pay for it, but I do expect you to support it and not kill the projects that come forward. Um, by support, I mean ask for people to look into it, ask for people to really give their best effort for it. Thank you. >> Thanks, Dave. Thanks, Dave. >> Uh, next up is Sean Gleason. Good evening.

Thank you. Um, I live outside of Webster, but uh, I'm here to talk about the RNG project. I represent the company Rev that Bob mentioned earlier. We are a developer of RNG uh, here in New York and across the country. Uh we have experience on 50 projects um of various types specifically to your project here. Uh you you as Bob indicated you're already flaring RNG. So that's dollars up the chimney. Uh that's not being recognized um today. Secondly, uh Bob's estimates um based on our experience of doing gas upgrade and direct injection into RG& and NISAG are seem to be in the ballpark. And the third point and we have done two RNG projects, NISAC projects here in New York, one in Auburn, one in Lville.

And the third point is on the revenue for the gas. There's number of different attributes credits available. For example, the Wegman CNG trucks that are driving around the road, they participate in the renewable fuel standard. Um, so there's a federal credit associated for that renewable natural gas effective of January 1st of this year. There's also a production tax credit called the 45Z. So there's a lot of different attributes uh for renewable natural gas uh both statewide and federal. Thank you. >> Thanks, John. >> Thank you. >> Okay. Next. Oh, well, first of all, did anybody >> Chris? >> All right.

Did I give you the sheet? >> Yeah, I did. >> All right. Chris Naka, 1065 Shoecraft Road. Um, I apologize that I was late getting here tonight. Um, the first little thing I want to talk about, I know I could have probably approached you off to the side and got the answers to my questions, but I figured putting it on the recording maybe will put a little bit of pressure, I guess. Um, when I go to check when these meetings are happening, I don't on my phone. I know that we had briefly talked about the website being slightly different than like the mobile app or however you get it to it on a phone, but it doesn't let me know when these meetings are until the day of the meeting.

And I had heard like offhand at something last night that they had already had the planning board meeting. And then when I was checking the website that I saw that that was Tuesday and you know we talked last night about getting people involved and making sure that you know all age ranges were participating in politics if they're interested in it and not being able to and and I'm totally if this is a duh you should just be doing this and then it'll pop right up like a a monthly like when these meetings are at the times obviously subject to change is, you know, reasonable, but uh just a way where someone who has a, you know, a work week can make it to these meetings and not be late.

And that would be really cool if I that that was achievable. And then uh what I usually talk about, anybody that is working in this town should be able to afford to live in this town and think about their future and plan for it and not just be getting paycheck to paycheck in an upper middle class town because we want to keep it this way. We have projects coming in and um it would just nice to keep Webster the the way Webster is within reason and I think building things that pay people enough to live here is a good step towards keeping things the way we think they should be. Thank you. >> Thanks Kristen Chris.

Yeah, make sure you talk with Bridget Harvey, our director of communications, because we can set you up where you will have the alerts. >> He's going to get set up right now. You going to get set up on those alerts? >> That's called service, sir. >> You You just made my day cuz my dream would be if one adult in every one of our homes in Webster had was on the alerts of of our town board, planning board, and zoning board meetings. Um that would be wonderful. We've made a lot of headway on that uh in the last four or five years, but it we got a long ways to go. And I think, you know, I hope the next administration uh puts a premium on that uh with Bridget and her staff to continue that uh momentum.

Next up, uh two weeks ago, we were here for a workshop and a board meeting. Uh Denine, as always, you got minutes out to us timely and so I've reviewed them. I make a motion to approve the November 6th, 2025 town board workshop minutes. Second. >> Supervisor Flity. >> I, >> Councilman Cahill, >> I. >> Councilwoman Cataldi, >> I. >> Councilwoman Wyn, >> I. >> Councilwoman Wright, >> I. >> And the regular town board meeting on November 6, 2025. I make a motion we approve those meeting minutes. >> Second. Supervisor Flity. >> I. >> Councilwoman W. >> I. >> Councilwoman Cataly. >> I. >> Counciloman Cahill.

>> I. >> Councilwoman Wright. I >> uh now I did great with the Boy Scouts. I I hit three out of four. >> Um Jennifer. >> Nope. >> Did you No, it was you, Jimmy. >> Yeah, just two weeks ago it was that was me. >> I missed once again the first pick out of the four I I struck out of. >> That's okay. I have looked over the bills with financial director. Everything seemed to be in order. I would like to make a motion to pay the bills, please. Second. >> Second. >> Councilwoman W. >> I. >> Councilwoman Wright. >> I. >> Supervisor Flareity. >> I. >> Councilwoman Cataly. >> I. >> Council Pin Kale. >> I.

>> And then I reviewed the uh prepaid warrants as submitted by Paul Adams, the director of finance, and make a motion we approve those. >> Second. >> Supervisor Flity. >> I. >> Councilwoman W. >> I. >> Councilwoman Cataly. >> I. >> Councilman Cahill. >> I. Councilwoman Ray >> I. >> And then I have also reviewed the purchase orders as submitted by Paul Adams, the director of finance, and make a motion we approve those. >> Second. >> Supervisor Flity. >> I. >> Councilwoman Cataly, >> I. >> Councilman Cahill, >> I. >> Councilwoman Wyn, >> I. >> Councilwoman Wright, >> I. >> All right. I'm going to have I think Paul uh explain this next one.

Before we do that, you know, tonight we have essentially 16 items on the agenda. Uh 15 resolution potential and and a tabled item from last two weeks ago. The first three resolutions we just did, those are boilerplate. They're they're really on every single regular town board meeting. Um, you could make an argument the reason why the town board must get together, uh, and we do it the first Thursday and the third Thursday of every month is for those first three. That's conducting town business. The rest of these really are created by what either is we're reacting to things going on or the administration is being proactive in promoting stuff and uh, and that.

So, I guess there's my little civics uh lesson for the day. So, moving on. Paul, can you uh >> yeah, explain uh this next resolution? >> Sure. Uh the next resolution is to transfer approximately $22,000 from general fund to the dog kennel capital project. Uh we had hired MRB to do some planning and design work when we were proceeding toward building a dog kennel. uh of which we were approved for a grant for as well but then uh the prices came in too high and we abandoned that idea and are seeking an IMA agreements with uh other municipalities. So there's 22,000 that has to be cleaned up so we can uh close up the project.

>> Does anybody have any questions about this? The only question I have, and Paul, I believe you answered this, and I went through the spreadsheets of the cost, and I just wanted to make sure that that $22,000 was separate from the um $40,000 invoice from MRB because there was a piece of that, a $3,700 piece of that that was for the dog kennel. >> Yeah. Some of that got intertwined, but this 22,000 is distinct distinctively for the dog kennel uh within that 40,000 that you're referring to. We were thinking of using the old highway admin building as the dog kennel. So MRB did some design work per pertaining to that as well, but that that piece is over uh it's within the 40,000 is now being negotiated.

It's a bill that >> Yes. >> sitting on the highway projects. So, will that $3,700 count towards the kennel when when it is resolved? Would that count towards the kennel project H0240 project or or will it be part of highway? >> No, it's actually over on the highway project. >> Okay, >> got it. >> Yep. The only other thing I would add to that because at the workshop tonight there seemed to be a and last week la two weeks ago board meeting a common theme which should be is that you know this board in January will have three different board members on it. Um, so just because this board decided not to pursue the $400,000 a market grant and decided to go the route of IMA negotiations in January, the the new configuration of the board may look at how things are going with the IMA negotiations with Iran quite work with and and maybe apply and try to build a kennel here.

That's what happens when there's new administrations and new leadership. Just because the old leadership made that decision doesn't mean that the new leadership uh is beholden to it because we're right now kind of in a holding pattern with the IMA negotiations because I quite said they want uh somebody from our board to negotiate with somebody from their board. Is that correct, Chief? >> Pretty much so. >> Very nicely said. and that they didn't want us to start that negotiation until January. That was also a part of it. Or can we start those negotiations now? >> We start right now. >> You knock yourself out.

Uh I would be careful about what board member at Arandquite is assigned because you'd want to make sure it's a board member that is going to be there in January. >> Yeah. >> And >> you go there now and you start talking to them, you might find out that the new board configuration in Randquid in January says, "No, we don't want that person. We'd like somebody else. >> I personally think you got to wait till January. There's too many bogeies there. But John, you have every knock yourself out. Jennifer, if you want to go over there, that's that's your, you know, uh, prerogative. Um, well, I'm going to make a motion to transfer 22,38250 from the general fund to close out the kennel capital project 80240.

>> Second. >> Supervisor Flity. >> I. >> Councilman Cahill. >> I. Councilwoman Cataly I. >> Councilwoman Wyn I. >> Councilwoman Wright I >> Well, this was Did Josh leave? >> He did, didn't he? >> You know what's too bad, Chris, is that the people that were here heard it and they're laughing, but nobody heard that on tape. Should we start getting him a microphone, Bridget, and mic him up? All right. You know what I I mean, there's a risk to that, but he's on fire tonight. All right. He's He's had some good ones. Okay. He threw me up. Um, well, I Does anybody got any questions about these next two that spawn off of what?

Uh, >> no, Jack, >> I do not. I would move that we resend resolution number 312 of 2025 associated with the town's TAP grant application. >> Second. Councilwoman Cataly, >> Councilwoman Wright, >> I. >> Supervisor Flity, >> I. >> Councilman Cahill, >> I. >> Councilwoman Wyn, >> I >> uh if you want to keep going. >> All right. Uh and this is following up on that. I would move to authorize the supervisor to sign an sign an agreement for professional surveying and preliminary design services associated with the town's tap grant application with Costage Engineering for a total not to exceed $51,000.

>> Second. >> Councilwoman Cataly >> I. >> Councilwoman Wright >> I. >> Supervisor Flity >> I. >> Councilwoman Cahill >> I. Councilwoman Wyn, >> I >> and and I gotta apologize when when Josh was presenting it and and and Councilwoman Wyn, you had some concerns, valid concerns about, you know, how much is this going to cost, you know, uh not the engineering, but the project and Josh gave what it was a couple years ago. Um the one thing that was brought up two weeks ago was that the engineering, not engineering, the survey component of this, we need that anyway. Even if we didn't apply for TAP, because that was a state road, now it's a town road and we have zero.

Uh we don't understand what we got there. We're not sure where the rightways are. We have no survey work. So, the town really has to get survey work there anyway for us to do anything on that road. Um Pat Stevens in the highway department has been saying it to the GIS people and whatever that do you realize we don't have anything on Ridge and that was brought up two weeks ago. >> It's just for the record that's all just you know >> no it's good and I mean um so yeah so I just wanted to throw that in. I think it was in the minutes last time but no reason to not have it again. Um, okay. We know where Josh is thanks to Chris.

Um, >> so, um, I think the board all said at the workshop that they support this. I I'm going to make the motion because I didn't have to say at the workshop. I I don't want to. This is just common sense. Uh, I mean, I don't know what else to say. Um, so I make a motion to support in support of Congressman Lick Nick Langworthy's Energy Choice Act HR 3699 S1945 in an opposition to New York State's mandated natural gas ban. >> Second. >> Supervisor Flity >> I. >> Councilwoman Wright >> I. >> Councilwoman Cataly >> I. >> Councilman Cahill >> I. >> Councilwoman W >> I. Um the next one um I certainly if the the board members have any questions I think Paul I won't have you chief answer because you already no good deed goes unpunished.

You got involved with this a couple years ago as a favor. Um and then you got dragged down a rabbit hole on it. But uh uh we did through your assistance we got court security and I think our contract runs up at the end of this year. >> Correct. And there was uh when we looked at our options and all that, it just seemed as though uh rushing out to an RFP, the landscape of security firms, what they were willing to renew up for one year. >> One year. That's a 4% increase. We pay 60 an hour is going to 6250. >> Yeah. >> Reasonable. >> Do you have a judges what we paid last year by chance? I'm sorry to >> That's okay.

Go ahead. >> 6250 per hour is what we pay. I mean total amount last year that we paid. >> Oh, um I think it was around 25 to 30,000. >> Okay. >> Initially we thought this was going to cost us 45 to 50,000, but it's coming in less than >> Yeah. >> managing the hours. >> Thank you very much. >> And and the the court the the judges and the clerks seem to be happy with the security they have. >> Yeah, they're very happy. you know, and I think when we threw that all into the pot, we said, you know what? Um, why don't we renew for a year >> and then once again, a new administration, they they may look at all these contracts and Denine keeps records of all these contracts that, you know, expire um either calendar-wise and and RFPs for these things are they're always a potential to be in play, but it's not a rubber stamp that you do an RFP.

RFPs take time, energy, and sometimes it's just better to renew. >> Uh be careful what you ask for. But >> anyway, um >> I I have a question about this resolution because the printed copy the resolution in my file here says in an amount not to exceed, but I don't know how we would make that resolution. Um since it's an hourly fee, are we just going to approve the hourly fee and leave it at that? Yeah, it I don't think the contract includes a maximum spend. It goes by the hour and then we the hours are managed based on the court schedule. So it's controlled. >> So the hourly rate 6250 per hour, >> right?

I just want to be sure that that then we take that out of that resolution. Well, if you would make that motion and word it at >> I would move to authorize the town supervisor to sign the court security contract with Frontline Security and Protection LLC effective at a rate of 6250 per hour for services effective January 1st, 2026. >> Second. >> Councilwoman Cataly. >> Councilwoman Wright >> I. >> Supervisor Flity >> I. >> Councilman Cahill >> I. >> Councilwoman W. Hi. >> Um, well, there was a lot of discussion on this next resolution um over the 40 minutes of Paul Adams and Bob Whmer's uh presentations at the workshop before a motion is made either for tableabling or to if you wouldn't mind, Bob, can you take the podium for two minutes?

>> This is the measure twice cut once. I I have a question if I could or did you want to preempt that with something? >> Do you have a question for >> I do. >> Shoot. So, there's been a lot of discussion tonight about tableabling this till a later date. And um it was also mentioned in passing that perhaps waiting to do this into January would not really affect the start date of July by any in any way. Uh I know you're going to be under the gun to get that engineering done in four months, but are there any outside things that we need to consider if we are looking at possibly tableabling this? Um what other things do you see would come into play in that six months?

>> Uh excuse me. So the biggest challenge um is working with RG& on getting the interconnect agreement uh worked out. Uh so we can certainly get the engineering done uh get all of those components done and then the pricing for the components of the project that we control uh with with no problem in a four-month period. Um RG& will be presenting a fee for the interconnect um that we don't have any control over developing the estimate or the price of that is their decision for the interconnect. So whether or not they present that fee to us within two months or they take their time in doing that, that's uh just a risk anytime you're working with uh a utility.

>> Is there any way that you could give us Well, certainly you haven't dealt with RG& you've you've dealt with other companies in other parts of the country. >> Um what what's a typical time on that? Um so there is no typical time. Uh I started I contacted RG& um about five months ago uh to give them the initial information so that they could start to provide feedback so that I could put together uh the budgetary estimate that we've been discussing so far. So they are difficult in terms of the responsiveness. Um we do have uh another advantage. Um, uh, Sean, who was up here speaking earlier, um, and one of the reasons we brought them in as a partner is that two of their engineers are former RG& uh, gas distribution system employees.

Uh, so they understand the ins and outs of the system and are able to uh, try and move that process along as efficiently as possible. Um, but again, you I can only control what I can control. I can control my staff and I can control the the subs who work directly for me, but I cannot necessarily control RG&'s responsiveness. >> Is there is there any other downside that you see in in not moving forward on this tonight? >> Um there there is an opportunity cost as uh has been mentioned before. Uh the gas is already being uh produced. So, uh, as you know, every month that the facility is not in operation is essentially $40,000 in revenue that the town will never be able to realize.

But that that's just a just a choice that, you know, everyone makes as they do any sort of budgeting. Uh, but just to to make sure everyone understands that that opportunity cost is lost and cannot be recovered. >> Well, if the market goes down, the price could come down too. >> Um, so one of the advantage Yes. One of the advantages of uh of this sort of agreement is that these are as I said you pick the term of your contract and then it's a fixed price for the the term of that contract. Um so um the uh other component and my assistant here has just passed me the note along um is that um the uh you know January, February, March uh that time period uh is the busiest time period for RG&E.

Uh so we want to you know it's going to be slow anyway. So we want to take advantage of as much of the time as possible. So you said you you've already notified RG& with respect to this potential project, correct? >> Yes. So RG& has a initial um process where you give them the outlines of the project uh so that they can start all of their internal uh information. >> Um the next phase if the engineering is authorized is an agreement with RG& to start uh them doing their engineering work on the process. Um because uh the town has not uh committed to the project. We have not initiated that step yet.

>> Okay. >> M think that I put you up there to comment or ask your questions? I'm glad I did put you up there because two of the board members had further questions. >> Anybody want to keep going? I I can You haven't tripped over my questions yet. >> So Jennifer, anything >> for Bob or for Sean? >> Not right now. No. >> Okay. Jenny. I already made up my mind. So, thank you. >> It's good. Um >> I I Okay, go ahead. >> Shoot away. >> No, no, no, no. Questions. >> Well, I you know what? Uh look, I I'm going to air some dirty laundry here. Bob, you can be very honest about this. Okay. >> Sure. Do you know that it was almost it was six months to the day May 20th was when you and Rick and Art and whatever uh presented to me and I can't remember who else uh about this project and be honest, how did I react?

>> Oh, so so poorly. >> Yes. Yeah. Um I was like uh very honest. I was like, are you serious? We're going to add to this project, which has already been, you know, a a very difficult project to move along and make sure that the board and the community understands that we're not lunkheads and we're not just spending money for the sake of spending money. This is this makes sense, the whole $85 million. And it's and it's helped us get the uh fair life. And I personally think that I think what happens on the Xerox campus, there will be aspects of uh construction over there and industrial plants that they will be attracted to what we've done technologically here in Webster.

But my initial reaction was not good. After I took 24 hours and had serenity now, I came back and uh Paul I'd like to think I said, "Well, okay, we need to go and do due diligence and check all of these things before I would even consider bringing it to a workshop. We need to have this locked down. And over the next three months, we had meetings with Joe Perez, our insurance agent. We were checking in to see if we could ensure this for the IRS and Treasury against Lloyds of London. We found out that is not possible. That didn't surprise me, but there was rumors out there. Hey, you know what? Let's go check it out.

You can't do that. >> We went and checked out this that this that the other thing. We got to the point where almost three months later to the day I was in Ireland on vacation, but Patty was running the workshop and on August 21st you came in here and you presented and at that meeting and I watched it uh not live big time difference. Um I was I was happy to see that the the board saw the validity of it. In fact, the board wanted some more information. As Councilman Kale, we could go back to the minutes and he should have wanted more information, especially about whether we do the $5 million estimated project, which was more using the gas to power the plant, or the $9 million estimated project, which was to sell the gas and have a half a million dollars of revenue.

And the more information that we got on that, the board kind of unanimously said, "Well, the bang for the buck is the 9 million." So the 9 million am I right to assume that? Well, first of all, I know you guys didn't just 9 million. All right. There was logic behind that. And and encompasses well, the $348,000 engineering fee would be part of that 9 million. Yes. >> Okay. Um the Witham/Banado work that we have these are soft costs. These are the you know that was considered in this. In fact, you originally said you should have Concord maybe look at doing the work which I appreciated that you knew the soft cost of this went beyond the usual engineering fees because the tax credit is so important that there's a couple hundred grand of work that has to be done to lock that down.

We think we may be able to reduce that because we're not your average run-of-the-mill municipality. We have a pretty sharp finance director, but that remains to be seen. I mean, no, you're sharp. He's proved that. >> You know, I mean, it remains to be seen if we can. >> He does that every day. >> I That came out wrong. Make sure the minutes, you know, that we might be able to inhouse stuff that we don't have to pay, you know, as much to either with him. um when you're done with the engineering you would show up in four months and say this is what it's going to cost. Now in a typical municipal project the MRB like MRB is going to come in here in two weeks or four weeks and say hey we just engineered Bosber this is what we think it costs and the board will go woo and then it'll be like well that's what we think it costs but we have to put it out to bid and get low bids and Denine does her magic and all that.

That's Wick's law. That's whatever. This energy performance contract when you come in with that number in four months, that's the number including the 348 that would populate amendment four of the current $85 million contract and raise it up to let's say it's 9 million to 94 million. There is no process of then putting it out to bid this process over the next four months. and I'd been involved in it before and it was really cool. And I would suggest to tell you the truth that because Councilman Kale one, he's going to be here in January, barring something unusual. I would assume he's going to be here because I got a chance to watch how you guys went and had buckets of money and you went to this supplier and said, "Okay, you have the main machine that is for this RNG, but these other places have them, too." and we'd speed date and they'd say, "Well, this is at these components." And you would decide with Rick, with Art, with the the budget and whatever you want to call it.

What was the best fit? And that was I'll say that was part of the engineering in my mind. Uh John, you if you have time, you should sit in on that and watch that all the way along. Audit it all the way along. be right there for it all the way along so that when in four months it does end up coming in here and the new board is going to have to decide whether to move forward on this $9 million project. That's irrefutable. This board is not deciding on moving and amending that $85 million contract. That can't happen unless you can fit four months into the next couple of weeks. And even if you could, I would not be comfortable with this board voting on a $9 million expenditure.

Just like in a couple weeks, I will not be comfortable with this board voting on Vosberg's. The difference on Vasbergs is we're going to get what the dollar amount is and it's Wix law. this board may decide to put it out to bid because putting something out to bid at that point doesn't cost any more taxpayer money and that still would leave it to the new board when it comes in to decide if they want to spend the money on Bosford. So your 9 million with the RG& connection fee and all that. I mean you did some research to come up with that $9 million number. Yes, that is correct. So, we have requested uh preliminary proposals from the equipment manufacturers.

>> Thank you. >> Um we have got we have talking with Rev and others about what typically an RG& interconnect fee is. Uh we know the site so we know the you know general impl impacts that are going to occur in terms of the site uh changes, the uh structural requirements, the piping that's required. Um, so we've we've done it at a preliminary basis. However, there are always a lot of details and little things that we just need to make sure that we have correct before we walk in here and say that we're providing you with a price that we guarantee will not be exceeded, a guaranteed maximum price, which is how our offerings come to the board.

>> Okay. And so >> can I not done, but I >> it's been I asked him to It's okay. I asked him to come up and I was very gracious to let Patty and you ask questions for me and I'm the one that asked him to come up. I didn't know there was a time limit. >> Um >> All right. >> So about 3% 4% whatever of the project estimated cost or what what what does it end up being the 348 and 9 million? Is that >> it's a little less than 4%. >> Right. Is it safe to say one of the reasons why it isn't your traditional 10% soft cost like this board and John who's in the trades and all that and you know the reason why it's that low um is because a lot of this uh is is you're you're already you're tying in it's it's not um I'm trying to think why how to word this the reason why it wouldn't 10% the traditional 10%.

>> Well, if I may, I'll I'll answer it for you. >> Call for it. >> Uh it's three-fold. First of which, uh all the team members who are who are doing the design have been working out there for the last four years. So, the facility knowledge and the background is already there. Secondly, we're not creating a full brand new standalone package of uh design documents or construction documents. This is an addition to what is already on there. So there's a lot of uh standard documents that you don't do not need to recreate because it's not a brand new project. Uh and the final piece is that um you know Navdus wants to be considered a partner with the town.

Uh we've been trying to you know we've been out here for more than four years uh working with you guys trying to be a good partner with all of our customers. Uh and I'm personally trying to be the best partner I can be with the town as such. Real quick Tom. Yep. >> Um, Navitus has decided that this is an investment in terms of Navus. We are not uh burdening the project. We are not charging any Navus time. Uh, there's no Navatus dollars that are going to the project. The $348,000 represents only the costs that we are paying to uh other consultants, other engineers uh for their work. So, we are not uh we're not charging our time uh to the project.

And Bob, I think your answer that you just gave, very robust, also answers the second part of that, which is I mean, I'm we're staring down seven well nine months from when we this board uh let MRB do a $400,000 30 60% 90% design for Vosberg. And we think they'll be ready to come in here and look at it or show us to in December. It's nine months. We're looking at different projects. we're getting to 30 60 90% uh your typical Wix bid 9 months. You're you're basically because you have to feed this number to the the amendment. This is the number you're doing probably to 90% 100% uh drawings and you're doing it in 4 months where historically we have been dealing with these projects that are doing it you know to get to that level you know complexity not being equal to all the projects um it takes nine months and I say that and I got one last thing because I can tell council male wants me to go on all night all right but I won't would you say in your professional opinion and first I should say by the way if July 1st wasn't such a critical date to get the benefits of this if that wasn't a critical date it was more like December 31st of 206 we're not having this discussion kick it to the next town board it's not timesensitive but it is timesensitive because we need you to finish that $85 million million dollar project because if you finish it a month early that saves us a lot of money for how much you're out there on the site.

Okay. So, there's an incentive right now that Rick and Paul as we go our owner meetings finish the damn thing. Get it done right. We have that incentive to do that. So, we're pushing you to get it done by July 1st. With that being said, do you feel as though if the next town board, if this gets tabled tonight, which means it's tabled to the 4th, 18th, it's tabled the rest of the year based on what the town board members have articulated, unless I'm misinterpreting that. I don't think they're saying table it until the 4th or 18th of December. If it's kicked to the next town board, do you think that the latest they could do this is the February 20th town board meeting?

Because 4 months from February 20th is June 20th. >> What I I'm not going to get into how the board should make their action. What I'll stand behind, >> I'm just asking for time. If you're going to be done by July 1st, four months, it's just math. What I'll stand behind is our commitment to complete this activity in four months. >> Thank you. Okay. Appreciate it. >> Well, I can do the math for everybody here and watching at home. February 20th is the second Thursday in February's town board meeting. Four months from then is June 20th. the board would have to see the results, uh, whatever June board meeting that would be, and basically vote on it that night for the the $9 million project, which is not usual.

Usually this board, but the new administration might do things differently. We would see what the cost is and then we would, geez, we got to think about this. And we would wait till two weeks later. This is a time crunch. >> It's as simple as that. So, I don't have any other questions. >> Well, I'm going to make a motion to table. >> Could I resolution? >> I I still have another comment if I could. >> Oh, I'm sorry, Kath or Patty. Go ahead. >> Did you call me Kathy? >> I almost did. Yes. >> It comes from a lot of people, but never from you. Um, this resolution that we have in front of us is to authorize the engineering design cost of $348,000 to come from the current $85 million contract owner allowance/contingency contingency.

I'm sorry. I'm assuming we have $348,000 in our owner savings. Yes, the owner savings account is a little bit over $500 and some odd thousand dollars right now. >> And contingency, where are we? >> Uh the contingency uh last I checked was about a million161 million16,000 uh of the original $2 million. >> Okay. And and the other thing that I because everyone has said how they feel and what they want to do with this, I would just want to go on record stating that I think it's a mistake to table this. I think we are authorizing the expenditure of $348,000 for engineering. We are not authorizing the expenditure of 9 million to build this RNG facility.

Um, we're simply making the investment to get the information and the next town board will certainly be making that decision as to whether they want to move forward with with an amendment on this this current contract and spend the additional funds. Keeping in mind, we're all talking about spending money. Let's not ignore the revenues that we could see with this and the potential to recoup money that's already been spent on the project. So, I I would not vote to table this. Uh I feel that that's a big mistake. Just want to go on record saying that. >> Thank you very much for your input um both Tom and Patty.

And um you know, I've been following this project pretty closely for quite some time, and I'm not going to bring up any dirty laundry with respect to um some of the things that have occurred with respect to this project, but I definitely remember bringing being brought in on a one-on-one um due to some things that I was very alarmed about. Okay. Um, but to your point, Bob, and everything my deal is my deal with John, you got to elaborate on that. >> I don't have to do anything, Tom. Well, that is a terrible terrible thing to say on record that you came in to one-on ones and you were very >> I just want to say something.

If I'm the community, I would for your honesty because my dealings with you have always been above board. Okay. You haven't brought me into a meeting and explained to me that something was built before it was brought to our attention. >> That's not how you operate and I appreciate that. As a representative of your company, you're above board and I appreciate it. >> Thank you, Council. >> I just want to go on record to say that. So, I'm going to make a motion to table the resolution to authorize RNG engineering design cost to come from the current $85 million contract owner allowance contingency and to have set engineering and design start immediately.

I'd like to table that to the January 8th meeting. >> Second. >> Fourth, isn't it the fourth meeting? >> Is it the fourth? I think it's the eth. >> January 8th. >> Second. And also too, I would like to enase something for the record. The Vaspo pump is totally different than this project because the Vaspel pump is something happened to it. It's going to be a tremendous you know catastrophe for our town because all the sewer and everything that's why we have to do that project and we also you know look into the grants for that project too as well. And with this project, it's something it's just like it's not an emergency, it's an add-on.

And you know how add-on is sometime there's always extra cost. There always something that you know we cannot predict. And we saw that in the past. The reason why we all vote yes on the project on the sewer, you know, and we see it every single time there is the workshop always an increment, you know, of the money. But because we halfway there, we have to finish it. We cannot say no. It's just like you're on a, you know, you're riding a tiger back. You cannot get off. So, you got to ride it all the way through. And that's what this board did because for the sake, you know, of the project. And we know that's going to cost a lot of money for the, you know, for the the tax uh payer for for our town.

But we have to do it. this one we don't really need to do it. So therefore we need time you know for the next board to decide if they wanted to go forward with it. And I appreciate your time and I thank you very much. >> Councilman Cahill. >> Hi. >> Councilwoman Wyn >> I. >> Supervisor Flareity. >> Uh nay for the same reasons Patty gave um nay. Councilwoman Cataly, >> no. >> Councilwoman Wright, >> I >> Okay. Um, next up is a resolution to adopt the 2026 authorized positions list as funded by the adopted 2026 budget. Any questions, Paul? Any more? Uh well that's more for Braden but um yeah Braden always puts together an authorized position list uh that kind of goes along with the 2026 budget.

So that is what this resolution pertains to. >> Any questions? No. >> No. He did send that out to all of us. >> All right. I make a motion to adopt the 2026 authorized positions list as funded by the adopted 2026 budget. >> Second. Supervisor Flity. >> I. Councilwoman Katali, >> I. >> Councilwoman Cahill, >> I. >> Councilwoman Wyn, >> I. >> Councilwoman Ray, >> I. >> Uh, anybody have any questions on the 2026 minimum wage uh increase? >> No. >> I make a motion for the implementation of the 2026 New York State minimum wage increase and pay compression adjustments. >> Second. >> Supervisor Flity.

>> I. >> Councilwoman W. >> I. Councilwoman Katali. >> I. >> Councilman Cahill. >> I. >> Councilwoman Wright. >> I. >> All right. Paul and Chief. >> Uh, yeah. Can I just make a comment on this one? The next resolution is to approve a uh settlement. >> Paul, if I'm sorry and what? >> If I may real before we proceed with the resolution, I just like to um say that this is a sensitive matter. Um, simply ask Chief to provide a high level overview. Um it's before the town board because it requires the authorization of distribution of funds. So that's the reason that it's before the board tonight. Um sorry to interrupt you there, Paul.

>> Okay. Yeah. So this is an insurance settlement. I just wanted to point out that it could be paid for out of general fund operating funds or the general fund also has a general insurance reserve with $222,000 in it. We could use a portion of that reserve to settle this claim. So, >> thank you, Paul. >> Yeah. Uh, so I moved to the podium because there's no camera for that spot there. Uh, so essentially the without getting the details because this is still a pending court matter. Um, in uh December of 2021, there was a theft from a local retail business in town. Uh, a report was taken uh based on that incident.

Nobody was taken into custody at the time. Um several weeks later, the security for that uh retailer uh had a second incident in uh another county uh where they believe they identified the person that committed the crime that occurred in our town. Uh when that uh paperwork was um or when that incident happened, the sheriff's department for that county responded uh and had interaction with that mail. uh the um court sec or the security for the retailer uh the security for the retailer and the deputy involved in that incident provided statements uh identifying the male that committed the crime in the town of Webster.

Uh our officer uh completed the court information based on the information and belief of those two uh identifying statements uh and submitted for the judge to review. The judge issued a arrest warrant uh for the uh name provided uh by the two uh statements. Uh our officer went out executed that warrant and took that individual into custody. Uh several weeks later uh the same security officer for the retailer contacted us and said they had a third incident with the male uh in a in an additional county um uh near Buffalo and they identified him as a different person. Uh so in that case uh the the uh second incident uh the name he provided was uh a different individual the individual we took into custody.

Uh once we were made aware of that we contacted attorney's office and the charges were dropped against the the party. Um and that's the basis for the lawsuit that came. Um so as we do with all our lawsuits the insurance uh carrier provides uh legal representation. They've been going through that process since uh 2022 um uh maybe early 23 somewhere around there with the the actual court filings. Uh and it's our recommendation at this point to uh have a global settlement of the case. Um which is why the matters before you >> Thank you. >> Yeah. I don't have any questions, Chief, but just a couple things.

I just want to thank you for meeting with me the other day to give me the details on this and the specifics. And secondly, thank you for, you know, the transparency of addressing this in an open board meeting. Thank you. >> Of course. Yeah. >> Something you like. Anything else? >> I I'll just note before uh motion is entertained that the um what is in the agenda is a resolution authorized supervisor to sign a settlement agreement. I would refer the board to the uh typed resolution at the bottom. It's not actually authorizing you to sign a settlement agreement, but approving the settlement agreement and consenting to the attorneys uh representing the town to to sign the stipulation of discontinuence.

>> Any other questions? No. >> No. I would move that we authorize the supervisor to approve the settlement agreement to resolve the matter of Moore versus Town of Webster as recommended by the town's insurance carrier, Tokyo Marine, in the amount of $37,500, including a $25,000 deductible. >> Second, >> Councilwoman Cataldi, >> I. Councilman Cahill, >> I. >> Supervisor Flareity, >> I. >> Councilwoman W. I. Councilwoman Wright I >> All right. The next three are the liaison. So it'll be John, Jen, and Patty. >> All right. Um I move to uh approve the assets listed on the IT sheet for deletion. And there's a bunch.

I'm just going to refer to the sheet. >> Second. >> Councilman Cahill. >> I. >> Councilwoman W. >> I. >> Supervisor Flity. >> I. Councilwoman Cataly >> I. >> Councilwoman Wright I. >> And I will hang on. Let me get to the page. I would move to approve the assets listed on the highway assets form for recycling auction or scrapping. And the list is probably even longer than it. >> Second. >> Councilwoman Wright. >> I. >> Councilwoman W. >> I. Supervisor Flity. >> I, >> Councilwoman Cataly, >> I. >> Councilman Cahill, >> I. >> And I would move to approve the assets listed on the police asset form for recycling.

>> Second. >> Councilwoman Cataly, >> I. >> Councilman Cahill, >> I. >> Supervisor Flity, >> I. >> Councilwoman Wyn, >> I. >> Councilwoman Wright, >> I. And then we have one table item from November 6th and it was uh I think there was a deletion or an error that the wreck center wasn't on here. Is that right? Questionwise. >> Okay. And sewer is on here and this is for the renewal of the cleaning contract for all of the town facilities for uh really calendar year 2026. Um >> is there a cost on here? >> Um what is what is the cost, Paul? the cost. >> Yeah, >> I don't have the entire cost handy. >> Do we need that to make the resolution?

>> I need that information. >> Should be in an addendum in the back of the contract >> which we had from last week last week. >> Okay, I'm going to make a motion to table this until December 4th for the cost. >> Second. Supervisor Flity. >> I, >> Councilwoman Wyn, >> I. >> Councilwoman Cataly, >> I. >> Councilman Cahill, >> I. >> Councilwoman Ray, >> I. >> All right. And that is it for the formal part of the meeting tonight. Uh, Kyle, I know we got a place to be. Not a hot date, but it's a football game. >> Real quick, uh, we're going to do roundt. Rick, we'll start with you. >> Um, just give a quick update since we've talked a lot about it.

$86 million project on where we're at in the progress. Um we completed the liquid handling side. We're uh probably uh 60 70% through the solids handling side belt press. Our brand new belt press was up and running last week, but it's down now because we're paving up around the dryer building and solids handling building. Um the dryer, uh Griffin will be here December 8th through the 22nd to get it up running. We won't send any solids to it till the first of the year because of obviously the holiday Christmas and stuff. Dried product storage building will be up and finished in December. High strength waste receiving which will be a nice revenue generation will should be up and running in January.

But the high strength waste EQ tank in January also secondary digtor in February and heat exchanger which will be switching to natural or methane gas in that will be in February. And then our our blowers for the aation system that are in and running. Well, the temporary still are, but the brand new ones, uh, the permanent ones, there's been quite a few hiccups with that. First of all, they sent us the wrong ones from overseas. And then as we're doing the retrofit, the panels were phased out and there new ones coming in. So, February be up and running, but we definitely have ouration system running.

We don't have any problems right now. So, on pace to finish on time and under budget. >> Great. Excellent. >> Wow, it's a lot of updates. Thank you. >> Uh we put together a transition team uh for the new board members and the new town supervisor uh Bridget Braden, Kim Doyle, and myself. So, we're working on um and agendas and we're trying to make this as smooth as possible. >> Thank you for that. >> Thanks, Paul. Jen, >> um first, happy Thanksgiving next week. Hard to believe another year is almost coming to an end. So, happy Thanksgiving to everybody. Hope you enjoy the holiday with friends and family.

After the Thanksgiving holiday, there is a comprehensive um committee meeting on December 4th at 4:30 in this room. Those meetings have been um they're they're for the steering committee, but they have been open to the community and that's where we'll get the next update on how the comprehensive plan is uh is evolving. So, looking forward to that. >> Thanks, J. Patty. >> Uh highway is still picking up leaves. I want to remind everyone to get them out there before we see some snowfall because then they have to turn around and start plowing snow. also remind people, please don't rake your leaves into the street.

Um, just put them at the ed edge of the lawn and highway will take care of it nicely for you. And I want to wish everyone a blessed and happy Thanksgiving. >> Kyle, >> I'll concede my time to Councilman Cahill there at the end. >> So generous of you, >> Jenny. >> All right. I would like to wish everybody um a very happy Thanksgiving. I'm thankful for this country and for our community and for the four years of being your town council woman, the friends I have made and all the special events that I have attended. I love my hometown Webster where life is worth living. Also, please come out and support our local businesses and please uh support our Webster Library and Webster Museum.

They exist because of you. God bless you all and God bless America. Thanks, Jenny. John. >> Well, first off, I want to thank Rick for um meeting with Jennifer and I earlier in the week. Um as always, you're very open and honest and I appreciate that a great deal. I've never had you any obviously, you know, I'm going to make asking direct questions. You've never waffled. you've always given me, okay, this is this is here's the facts and I really respect that. Um, the other thing is our highway department does a phenomenal job with the leaves and there's another department in the village that does an outstanding job with the leaves.

Um, so I just want to compliment the uh village and the town for doing the leaves in the manner in which they do. I know there's another village in New York State that does one run, that's it. So, we're very fortunate to have the services provided to us as residents that we do both village and town when it comes to police. I greatly appreciate that. I appreciate both of you saying that and I'm gonna like triple down on that one because I have been putting updates that Bridget puts out on the various Facebook sites for the town of Webster. Um, just to make sure that people understand the schedule and when somebody might be coming around.

And it's just so important. It's okay to leave your leaves out there. They're wet. They're not going to blow away. and the town will definitely come around and get them. So, have no fear. Be patient that your leaves will be removed if there's a pile in front of your house. >> Denise, >> I don't have any updates for the town clerk's office. It's business as usual. >> All right. Do you do passports? >> No. >> Well, that concludes tonight's meeting. We are adjourned. Thanks for coming.