Town Board Meeting
Please find their seats. I um we're missing a council member.
That's okay. We're waiting for you.
It's okay, John.
Unbelievable.
I'm back.
How dare you?
All right.
You know I'm kidding.
It is 7:31. I call to order the town board meeting of February 19th, 2026. Would you all stand with me as I lead us in the pledge of allegiance?
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
Miss Mar, would you like to do roll call?
Of course. Supervisor Sheldon
here.
Councilman Cahill
here.
Councilwoman Wright
here.
Councilman Hunter
here.
Councilman Wagner
here.
Attorney for the town Taylor
here.
All right. Um before we begin to the open to the floor, I would like to invite Deputy Supervisor Hunter up to the podium with me as we acknowledge something. So, for those of you who do not know, uh, February is recognized as Black History Month, and it's it's it's this year is special because it is the 100th year of it being recognized. Um, in fact, the White House put out a proclamation recently encouraging municipalities to celebrate. And in that, I would like to invite the deputy supervisor to begin as we give a proclamation and recognition of Black History Month. Whereas black history in the United States is compromised of an ex is comprised, excuse me, of an extensive collection of stories,
leaders, traditions that are critical to our n national identity. It remains important to acknowledge the individuals and accomplishments that helped defound, build, develop, and improve our nation. And whereas the designation of time period to celebrate black history began in 1926 with the intention of highlighting vital aspects of the American experience that academia had long neglected. In 2026, Black History Month is an annual effort to continue this tradition and build on years of work to add to the realities of black experience in the collective public memory. The significance of this month echoes far beyond the teaching of history in classrooms. And whereas 2026 not only marks a century of this coordinated effort to highlight black history, but also 250 years since the independence of the United States of America. America's story is incomplete without acknowledging the massive role that African-Americans have played in it. And whereas each February we recognize Black History Month and appreciate the many achievements of African-Americans in science, the arts, religion, public policy, in every facet
of society beyond. And whereas the tradition of abolition and progress sustained in this region lives on today. from ensuring that the promises of the constitution apply to all citizens to the civil rights movement, the White House and beyond. We rever the contributions of the black community. And now therefore, it be resolved on this 19th day of February in the year 2026 on behalf of the Webstertown Board and the entire Webster community, we recognize the indelible achievements of the black community and commemorate Black History Month in Webster. Thank you. All right, it is now time for the open to the floor public hearing portion. Um, rules of conduct, you are speaking before the board. Please speak to the board, not the
audience. Public comments are limited to five minutes to keep the meeting progressing forward. at four minutes. I will wave my hand as a quick wrap it up and I will we will just move on at five minutes. Uh questions do not have to be answered. If you want your question answered, please provide your email address to the town clerk at the end of the meeting. We are more than happy to get back to you. Uh please respect the speaker. Please refrain from disruptive behavior or comments. They may not say something you agree with, but they have a right to say it. Threatening statements will not be tolerated and may involve you being removed from the meeting. And for everyone's awareness, the full rules of conduct are available on the town website, the podium, or upon entrance into the town board meeting. With that, up first is our good friend Chris Naka. So please sir, Chris Naka, 1065 Shoecraft. Um, feels like it's been forever since we've had one of these meetings. I'm a little rusty at the microphone. Um, real quick, um, just to bring up some conversations that, uh, some people and I had had a few months ago about when we
do the speaking portion of this. Um, there's a lot of the time that the presentations that happen after this leave a lot of us wanting to say something or have a a voice at the end of these meetings. And I know that by just moving the speaking portion of this to the end, you might put the people that are coming here only to speak and then leave um at a disadvantage as they would have to stay for the meeting or come a little bit later. And where we kind of in the audience were in agreement that we'd actually like to encourage people to stay and that maybe it would be a good thing if we had it at the end because more people might stay and not just, you know, speak and then leave. Not to say that that's a bad thing or anything like that, but then you know it's probably more impractical than anything and um that maybe you could add another line to the sign-in sheet out there just saying whether you wanted to speak at the beginning or speak at the end. I know that adds another layer of things to the whole process that may complicate things unnecessarily. But um the thing that I wanted to speak about two weeks ago that I'm going to briefly speak about now was the Verizon towers and them being constructed in an
area in Webster and the um I know in this particular location there's only about five houses as I remember or so in the area that are going to be in direct eyesight of this tower. And um I know that in this particular circumstance there's only five houses. So that's not probably a big enough number of residents to alter moving forward with anything like that. But as far as setting precedents is concerned, um the people in these areas not necessarily all being Verizon customers yet having to deal with Verizon's marketing slashtechnological um products in their area, in their eyesight, in their waves that are passing through their bodies. Um, if you go online right now, you'll see a whole bunch of people with varying opinions on the matter. Is 5G going to give us all cancer? Are they all trying to see in our houses? It does nothing at all. It's perfectly safe. Everything's fine. And just the simple fact that so many people are having that conversation and the opinions on it are so broad in spectrum, no pun intended. um
that has ramifications on people whether it be physical and all the people that say it's physical are right or they're wrong. But um just say three of those five houses, three of those people are on the side of it. They're spying in my house. It's giving me cancer and my grandkid's going to have three arms. If none of that's true, it's almost irrelevant to their psyche and their daily life and what they think about when they get home from work at the end of the day. You know, that's just one more thing that these people are worried about. And I would hope that we would be sympathetic to those types of people whether they are right or wrong and encourage these companies that are essentially erecting giant billboards, functional billboards in people's backyards that these people at the very least be compensated. you know, you get a free Verizon account, something, anything that is um not just one more thing that's piling up on people's um consciousness for lack of better word that you know the things they think about and that is all. Love you guys. Thank you.
You have a whole minute left, but thank you Chris. That's
okay.
Well, you do bring up a good point. I just want to make the comment that um Robert Kennedy is his department will be doing studies on the effects and impacts of 5G which I was very happy to hear because some of the studies that are out there are a bit antiquated.
All right, up next Peter I'm gonna butcher this name. Wear Good evening. My name is Peter Weissar. Lived in Webster for 52 years. Built two houses, three kids, Webster school. But I am opposed to um the Monsanto proposition. two or three uh meetings ago, um there was a gentleman that came here and had a cell phone that played what an inverter sounded like and and John Cahill, you you had asked him a question said, "Well, how many inverters were they?" And he said, "Three." Well, we're going to have 18. And these are some of the common sounds. Low humming, buzzing caused by internal magnetic components, variable electricity flows at high frequencies, cooling fans, whirling and whooing and act activities that the unit is actually trying to convert during a peak. Uh I don't speak. Um then high
pitch whining often called coil wine. Now, one of the things that really bothers me is what is the unintended consequences? Uh, who's going to do the maintenance on these things? Because they are need to be cleaned. They do need to be uh, you know, like the coils. It's like looking under your refrigerator and think, well, I didn't get the dust out of there. Same thing is going to happen here. And I was glad that you asked the question because that was the sound. And I was sitting right over there and I said, wow, that's pretty that's annoying. Can you imagine it starting up in the morning and late at night when it's switching off and unintended consequences of who's responsible? What's the plan for fixing the things that are going wrong? And that's just the simple things that I found on on the conversion process. It's it was really kind of fascinating to read about all the different places that you have to have a maintenance that takes care of these things. They don't just clean themselves and you're going to put it up on top of a dust bowl. So,
no, good points. And that's just the tip of the iceberg,
right? And lengthy mansanti actually went on Facebook and and couple weeks ago and was saying, well, there's nothing wrong with them. Well, the conversion isn't. It's the it's the humming noise. You got people who are sensitive. It's like, you know.
So, sorry. That's about all I have.
Thank you very much. Appreciate it.
Up next is John Miller.
John Miller still here.
I thought I just signed in. Sorry.
Are you sure? Are you sure you don't want to talk? I mean, you're here. Okay.
I also signed in, so
Oh, Jason, I see you there.
Yeah.
All right.
Come on, Jason. if you can just, you know, do a non- tax update for us.
Yeah, come on. Tell us all about it. It's tax season. Let's do this.
All right, then. The next uh resident then is Alice Penna.
Good evening. My name is Dr. Alice Penna and I hold a clinical doctorate from Damon University. I'm speaking in opposition to the proposed solar garden in Webster. It's not just about the technical specifications, but also the quality of life and the perceptions of those in proximity to this proposed project. Balancing the utility of clean green energy production uh with ensuring nearby residents peace of mind is crucial and I believe should be the utmost in the minds of those who have taken an oath to guard the health and safety of those they represent. There's a lot of debate over the health risks associated with living near solar farms. Some claim that there are no health risks or adverse effects, while others believe that there are several potential risks. While living near a solar farm is generally considered safe, especially compared to other energy production facilities such as coal or natural gas plants, there are some concerns and potential health risks, even if they are
relatively minor or even speculative. In comparison, all electrical devices and infrastructure, including solar panels and their associated equipment, emit some electromagnetic radiation. According to the World Health Organization, there is a health risk of electromagnetic hypersensitivity associated with living near solar farms. This condition is characterized by a range of symptoms that are triggered by exposure to electromagnetic radiation fields. These symptoms can include headaches, fatigue, skin rashes, and sleep disturbances. Many studies have noted that more research is needed and because of potential long-term effects, recommend maintaining a distance of at least 2 kilometers, roughly 1.2 miles, from a solar field. The production of solar panels involves chemicals, some of which are hazardous. Most photovotayic panels have toxic substances like cadmium, lead, selenium. The toxic toxic substances lead leech into the soil and groundwater over time and damage to the environment particularly if panels are damaged
during storms or due to mishandling. It's not uncommon for the glass panels to become cracked or broken due to natural events like storms. When rain falls on broken solar panels, it creates lead and other materials like carcinogenic, cadmium, copper, or aluminum to leech down into the soil below. Over time, polluted soil is washed into nearby waterways. Inverters and transformers at solar farms can produce low humming noise. As the last speaker spoke of, the primary sound from inverters and trans transformers is low frequency, which results in sound with a longer wavelength. Noise barriers are less effective for longer wavelengths and then require a larger wall that might not normally be expected. The most aggressive sound control treatment for transformers and inverters is a full enclosure or even a building type of enclosure. While many solar facilities only operate during the day, in some areas, battery storage components are necessary and could result in transformer and inverter operation during the evening or overnight. On a final note, as a resident of
Webster, I would ask, what are the benefits to those who live in the area of the proposed site and the rest of my neighbors who pay taxes and choose to live in a place where life is worth living? Thank you.
Thank you. Thank you.
Thank you very much. Up next, Mr. Mark Williams, who I realized that I have been talking to a different Mark Williams, so I apologize. Hi, my name is Mark Williams. I live at 1448 Quail Creek Trail. And contrary to what the Montante slides uh said in a recent uh Facebook post, uh those slides tell us about how great a job Xerox, the remediation systems and the DEEC are doing managing the uh contamination. The situation is not as good as advertised. The only and and just so everybody understands, the only thing that prevents contamination from migrating off of the uh Xerox Brownfield and into the three adjacent Traria subdivisions is a system of underground blasted bedrock trenches. They're about 30 ft deep and they have recovery wells in them and the and the uh uh fluids the ground contaminated
groundwater the systems designed so that those fluids will flow into those trenches and then be pumped out for treatment. Uh that that's basically how the whole remediation system works. Montante says that these remediation systems are fully operational like a 100% of the time in their slides and I the two slides that they had on Facebook I believe were what they had for the uh planning board uh meetings months ago and um I've got an example of when the uh remediation system did not remain operational. This is just one of a number of uh examples. And by the way, everything that I've got as far as facts and figures uh comes from uh Haley and Aldridge engineering reports, their annual reports that are done every year. And so for one example, a trigger war trigger well, which is a warning monitoring well, exceeded its threshold in 2023 for the first time since 2011. Two reasons were given for the high u uh uh VOCC their solvents Valdo organic compounds uh for the high reading provided by uh in the Haley and Aldridge
engineering reports were uh number one um building two uh building 200 uh the contamination area uh for building 200 it's another contamination area that's across the street. It's across from Caracus Drive. And uh they had uh extended downtime for their uh pumping wells in the in the uh blasted bedrock trench there. Uh and the downtime was due to um uh rusted rusted underground conduits that shorted out the wiring. And the other uh they they fixed that and they had another issue which was a they called it a broken conveyance pipe. I imagine it was a discharge pipe. So those two uh failures and and I believe those were age related. Um they caused the pumps to go down for uh several months. And then the second reason uh for this trigger well to go off and this trigger well it was designed uh to pick up uh problems from the landfill and from this building 200 uh contamination area. The other reason was
that the landfill uh groundwater pumping declined declined by almost 2/3 starting in uh 2022. it was annually pumping out something like 1.3 million gallons a year and it dropped down to like you know 500,000 and uh so uh for a 10-year average it was a nice you know 1.3 million per year and then the the prior three years the most recent period it dropped to 500,000 Xer the DEEC says Xerox will just monitor the landfill recovery well pumping issue to me this sounds like just waiting you know we're going to wait and see. Then the the hazardous landfill has a 36-y old ashvalt cap to prevent water uh rainwater from amplifying the contamination plume. There's many cracks in this cap. Xerox agreed to put 1.5 uh inches of additional ashalt on that. I believe that will crack quick too. And uh when you imagine this, it looks like a parking lot covered with all these solar panels, the ballasted racks, uh the wiring, and everything else. It's I think it's going to be damn near impossible to seal that afterwards. And uh and then rainwater penetrating it
penetrating the cap would amplify uh the the groundwater plume. Uh, and we've got pumps that are already compromised and only working at one/ird their their prior rate. And then the added weight may cause settling issues on the 90 plus degree days.
Sorry, Mark, you are at five minutes now.
I'm done now.
I'm sorry. Just But thank you.
Okay,
Mr. Supervisor. Oh, go right ahead. I Mark, Mark, before you step away from the uh uh microphone, I just want to number one, thank you for the email and the amount of information in the email. Um it's very important information that I have not seen yet. You pro you presented a lot of the information. I'm looking forward to having another conversation with you um and pulling these reports. But to your point, those in favor of this solar field, they're not going to present that information. And would you just give us a little background of your experience with with Xerox? How many years you worked there?
So, I worked there uh started in 78 in the union and I worked there for 40 years. Uh my first job in the union was working over a boiling vat to move things along though.
All right, if you want to come back next at the next meeting and just enlighten us, then I'd appreciate it. But thank you again.
I'm sorry. I'm a little verbose.
You're fine, Mark. You're very well spoken.
All right. He was the last person on the list, but we do have some other people here. Does anybody want to speak up? Monica Dennis.
You're doing research.
Okay.
Hi, I'm Dennis Gorlick. Uh, and I live on uh, where do I live? I live in Tallberts Trail in Webster. And I wasn't really going to talk on anything that had to do with solar facilities, but um my background is that uh been a scientist, researcher, PhD candidate, post-doal at Colombia and at Princeton, and now I've just been appointed to be on the uh the conservation board. But I just wanted to do a quick look. I don't have any information at the moment on health effects though I am not sure what the data is and where the where the consensus is on health effects of uh brown fields that have been successfully done. But the thing I was able to find fairly easily was a a brief study of acoustic impacts of solar power generator facilities that was done uh in 2025. a review of all the available literature by the Louisiana Solar Energy Lab, University of Louisiana. And uh they were looking at some fairly large solar farms. And what they found was that even though there's concern about sound that they
actually did a lot of measurements of how the sound is affected by distance from solar panels, generators, inverters, transformers, and they start off at the the worst level would be, let me get the graph here. I'll just go over it very quickly. Some of the sounds start off at the source being as high as 90 dB. Some of them are like 50. But they're attenuated fairly quickly both in models and in actual measurements. By the time you're 100 ft away, you're down to 55 to 60 in the worst case, 30 dB in the best case. By the time you're 200 feet away, even the worst projector of uh of low frequency and high frequency sounds, especially low frequencies, the ones that start off as a 90 by 200 feet are all measured to be below 45 dB. So that's pretty low. And that means if you're located further away than that, in fact, the guidelines specify that for some of these things, if you're 140 ft away, you're really
below the threshold of being able to hear anything. So, just wanted to put that in the mix and I can share that with anybody if you wanted to take a look at that piece of research. Fairly good research.
Thank you, Dennis.
Thanks, Monica. Anything from you?
Okay, we'll hear from you in two weeks then.
Any It'd be last call. Anybody else? No. All right, that will close the open to the floor section. Um, we did not have a workshop two weeks ago, but I have reviewed the minutes from Denine and I would like to for February 5th, 2026 town board meeting and I would like to make a motion to approve said minutes.
Second.
Supervisor Sheldon.
I,
Councilman Cahill,
I.
Councilwoman Wright,
I.
Councilman Hunter,
I.
Councilman Wagner,
I. And Garrett, you had the dubious honor of signing them all.
Yep. I would like to make a motion for consideration to approve bills as submitted by the director of finance.
Second.
Councilman Wagner.
I.
Councilwoman Wright.
I. Supervisor Sheldon.
I.
Councilman Cahill.
I.
Councilman Hunter.
I.
All right. And I would like to make a consideration to appro a a motion to consideration to approve prepaid warrants as submitted by our director of finance.
Second.
Supervisor Sheldon.
I.
Councilman Hunter.
I.
Councilman Cahill.
I.
Councilwoman Wright.
I.
Councilman Wagner.
Hi.
I would also like to make a motion to cons for consideration to approve purchase orders as submitted by the director of finance. Second.
Supervisor Sheldon.
I.
Councilwoman Wright.
I.
Councilman Cahill.
Hi.
Councilman Hunter.
I.
Councilman Wagner.
Hi.
All right. This next one was the we were going to update an engagement letter with Balanos Labor Law. Um, however, when we relooked at it, uh, the individual that we were looking to subcontract through them has agreed to contract directly with the town. So, we would choose. So, we are actually going to make a motion to strike this from the agenda uh to strike the resolution to authorize the town supervisor to sign an updated engagement letter with the town's labor attorney, Bologanos Labor Law, PLLLP.
Is that your motion?
Yes. The motion is to get it off the agenda.
Second.
One quick question. Is this going to come back up in the future?
Uh, not this specific one. No, that would be a spec it would be a second one if we want to contract directly with the firm.
Okay. Thank you,
Supervisor Sheldon.
I,
Councilman Cahill,
hi.
Councilwoman Wright,
I,
Councilman Hunter,
I,
Councilman Wagner,
I.
All right, this next one I would like to invite up Jason Molner and John Miller to the podium as we are going to have a lot of questions. Um, sign in as we're looking to sign an engagement letter with MSC to provide federal tax credit compliance services. I know we have a lot of questions. So,
would you like to stay here or go up to the
micro? Oh, I didn't realize you were over microphones. Please sit.
Okay.
Yeah, we have uh Jason here from MSC and uh representative from Bonado as well uh to answer any questions you might have in regard to the investment tax credit related to the renewable energy project.
Yeah. And I I know we have a lot of questions here. As usual, we'll go down the line, but we're going to start with our uh CPA, Mr. Wagner.
All right. Um, I apologize for the audience if this gets a little boring and technical. Um, all right. So, phase one, this the scope of service.
Yes.
What exactly are you guys planning to do at phase one? Thank you. For the the 8020 test at phase one, because I know obviously the the new stuff, we're not going to know exactly yet, but in terms of the old stuff, what testing will be done at phase one? So, we're going to review the uh preliminary assessment that was done by the firm uh previously. Uh determine if we agree to the eligibility um confirm that we agree with that eligibility. We'll also perform a preliminary 8020 scrutiny. That's that 80% of the cost are uh essentially new uh with respect to this investment. Um and no more than 20% are old with respect to the investment. Uh we won't be able to finalize that until we have final costs, but uh for as much information as available in the next say month. Uh we'll try to get it as up to date uh as we can. Um we'll also assist with a pre-filing registration with the IRS uh likely one week after we confirm eligibility to assume the board wants to proceed with pursuing the tax credit. Um
and we'll target completion by late uh March 2026. So, in the sequence of events, we're going to do the first four bullet points and then the 8020 test or, you know, what are the ones that we don't really need to do just in case we don't pass the 8020 test that we need to hold off on?
I I would say you don't need to do the pre-filing registration. Um, we don't need to submit a report necessarily. If the 8020 test fails, we could avoid all the reporting. I'll send an email. I'll update you. it's likely you're going to fail um to try to you know keep any cost down um if it's obvious that you will fail.
But go ahead.
Now for the the step on performing the 8020 rule work right now it says based on available costs and fair market value representation. So for the 8020 test does that need for the IRS a third party valuation or what does the IRS accept as a valuation method for the old stuff? So, there's no formal valuation methodology requirement with the IRS. Uh, any reasonable method will be acceptable. Um, at this stage, we're likely going to ask for advice from you as to what things may or may not cost to the extent that you're not able to provide those costs. Uh, we will look for uh similar units uh that are available um and try to do our best to come up with evaluation based on initially available information. Um, to the extent that we can dive into details at this stage, we absolutely will. I'm not looking to sherk any uh work or responsibility, but I understand that you're not going to have full information um you know within this timeline. This is a preliminary.
Yeah. And that's why like the the new stuff we're not going to know yet. The old stuff we already have the old stuff's not going to change.
Yeah.
Just seeking some clarification on are we just solely doing the work? Are you guys doing the work? And if we knew the work, what exactly are we expected to do, you know, before we provide our depre depreciation schedules, which isn't really a fair market value representation. So like once again, is it really like the town's going to at your direction assign value to these items or
Yeah.
What exactly is going to be done at this early phase?
Yeah. for for whatever you have or know or have the ability to provide a value for let's say without hiring anyone it's a known quantity
we'll take it we'll work with it if you do not know and you have no way to ascertain that uh we'll take it upon oursel to ter to provide that valuation
and in your report is going to kind of summarize that of like hey for these items we valued them and here's how we determined what that fair market value is going to be
yes we can provide that Um, and then so with that, you think I mean the 8020 test, how many hours do you think the 8020 test is going to take given if if we're going to do all the old stuff, how many hours do you expect that to take?
It's it's hard to say. Um, you know, we're we're looking at tens of hours. I can be confident in saying it's not hundreds, it's not less than 10.
Yeah. Um it's going to depend on what we find when we dive into the various components and details, but we do give you a limit um as to how much we we will charge for the phase one. Um and I I will keep within that limit. Um so we're not going to go beyond it. Can you break that limit out to just the 8020 test? Because it sounds like the 8020 test is the bulk of that first work we want to do. Like we want to kind of clear that benchmark as close as we can now of we know the old stuff. we can quantify that
the new stuff will be close enough and that once we know that
the rest of this
perhap we're already kind of
of the cost in the phase one yeah
I'm going to say
70 75% of that cost is going to be the 8020 rule
somewhere in that ballpark
yeah so it is the bulk of the work
um is for that
okay like I said just some clarification on what exactly is your role versus ours is on that 8020 test so we know. And let me see what other questions I've got here.
Is that something you'd like me to follow up with in an email just to have it documented in writing? I can do that.
Uh we'll to update the engagement letter to to reflect that.
Okay.
Um and another question, you know, in here there's always that something goes wrong, what's going to happen? There's different coverage between IRS examination and inquiry and audit, etc. Um, you know, a change from the prior engagement letter from two weeks ago to this one is you guys have now capped your liability at the fees paid to the town. Um, what was the the rationale for changing that cap you placed in there?
I'm sorry. There was a change in the cap on liability.
In the in the first engagement letter, there was no cap on your liability. In the second one, you added the cap as the fees paid to the town. Generally we cap liability for private companies uh at the fees paid.
Okay.
Um you are not a private company and that is not generally what we do. I apologize that should not be that way. I will revert back to the prior version.
Well that's where like
as I've told people doing my work engagement letters it's a lot of work. It's annoying and there's always these little things you miss like you said for private companies it's in there.
Yeah. So, like this is why we we talked about this today. Like having to review this stuff is important because it's so detailed and so anonymous and sometimes stuff is left in. It's not intentional. You guys aren't trying to like sneak one over on us.
No.
But it's all this so much jargon that you've got to like
look at. So, thank you. But that's I was more just curious than that. Okay.
Yeah, we I think I think Yeah, our firm has updated our standard terms and
Okay,
that one snuck back in. I'm sorry.
No, no worries. That's why we got
I'll also do a full review of the terms just to make sure there isn't nothing else.
The joy of reading engagement letters.
Um,
all right.
I think that's all I've got for now, but if I if I see someone else in my notes, I'll I'll circle back. Thank you for your help. Yeah, Jen,
I can't possibly ask questions that car just as the one question that I have is wouldn't Navatas have a lot of the numbers from the the value of what's already there and they're building the design so they know what's going in. Can you get that from Navatas?
They may be able to assist with that for the existing equipment. I don't I I I would not count on them having an estimate of the value of the existing equipment.
They would have any values on the old equipment.
Okay.
So,
what did you say, Paul?
They would not have values on the old existing equipment
prior to the construction beginning.
Oh, I meant like the phase one, not old old equipment, but the new the newer stuff. Oh, yeah. Yes. That'll that'll be very easy to get from Natalas. I'm not concerned about th those costs uh ascertaining those. No. Is there anything from prior to that that can possibly count towards this 8020 rule? So just to take a step back, the potential risk we're evaluating here is for the things that were there, the components that were there prior to uh the start of construction of this new uh facility and ability uh to capture the the RNG and sell it or use it in um reducing the cost of the operation of the plant in some way. uh prior to that there are some existing components and I was I was actually at the facility today. Um and so things like uh steel uh uh braces that are holding up uh some of the new equipment is still retained. That old steel is still there. The uh cement outer structure of some of the tanks, the cement's still there, but the entire inside has been completely replaced and retrofitted so or redone.
Um there are some things like that that remain. Um and those things that remain cannot be more than 20% of the total cost of the entire project. If they are um on a valuation method of their value as of today, uh then we would have to shrink back the size of the project to try to make sure that at least 80% or more um is essentially the new stuff that Navas is putting in place. Um and so when you know I looked at the facility today I was I was surprised um let's just say that virtually everything there is new so much of it is new there are a few things that remain um I think our risk is low here on not passing the 8020 test but we still have to run the numbers we're all you know we're we're at an accounting firm so we'll
we'll run it we'll confirm We'll let you know how close you are um as a preliminary estimate. Again, by the end of March is is our target. Um if we can get started quickly here,
bless you.
So, I read I read your contract and are you I'm sorry. Are you done?
Yes.
Okay.
Yeah. John, you're up. I went through the the the contract and I have the same concerns that um Councilman um Garrett had asked. Um but I got to this section um 7U and it gave me and it continues to give me great pause and I'll I'll just read it briefly part of it. It addresses third party services and it says from time to time in our sole discretion without separate notice to you, we may engage thirdparty providers, including those located outside the United States to assist us in providing services um to you pursuant to this agreement.
Yes.
Um that's that's a non-starter for me.
Okay, we'll pull it up.
Okay. So, so you're aware that's our data entry team um that we would use to enter information, but I'm happy to
standard language for contracts basically. I'm guessing
for for our contracts that's in our standard standard language. Yes.
Yeah. It's just too open-ended and I just I just
I can pull it out.
That's great.
That's why I imagine in this case you're not going to like do the same thing as the whole firm does for these type of contracts. Like you don't need to outsource this like other stuff. It's more narrow in scope. Yeah. So, again, that's in there because we use a third party for data entry. So, if but I don't we don't
It's just too non-specific and open-ended.
Totally fine. Yeah. I don't mind pulling it out.
Anything else, John?
No.
Nick,
I'm all set. I appreciate your time, gentlemen. Thank you so much.
Um I just want to double check right now that um and verify. I know you mentioned it earlier, but say, you know, you're in phase one and it turns out that we don't qualify for the 8020 rule. We are eligible to just stop at that point and pay no further.
Correct.
Yes.
Great. So the only you know I I
you said you had no more questions John.
It's a statement like 30 seconds ago.
It's not a question. That's a statement. And and just so the audience is aware, um we passed a resolution to pay a company $328,000 dollar in design. And that's before we knew about this. Okay. Had I known about this prior to us passing that resolution, I mean, I voted no, but I just the timeliness of these things and I know it's probably out of your control, it it just gives me pause. It really does. So, that's my statement.
One other question. I'm sorry. Um, you know, the prime one was more a standard engagement letter and now this is a master service agreement. What was the the choice behind that change in kind of the overall change format?
I'm not sure. I'd like to see. So, we we always had a master services agreement what we provided you. I may have only sent you over the statement of work.
Okay.
And not the master services. I there separate agreements though. Both need to be signed.
Oh, okay.
Um so, yeah, maybe we should sit down and take a look at that together just to to make it clear. clarify. Okay.
Yeah.
All right. Thank you.
Sure. Um it could I if you don't mind I we're we're looking, John, to save the town tens of millions of dollars through a tax credit from the federal government. We're we're we're here to help. Um and we'll help however we can to try to help make sure this town gets those tens of millions of dollars from federal government.
This is no negativity on your part. It you
This is not your fault. I just thought I feel we put the cart in front of the horse. I would like to have seen this before we agreed to spend $328,000. And as a matter of fact, I I I would be in favor of pausing the design aspect of this RNG project until we have the outcome of this. But I know that's probably not going to happen. But if I had it my way, that's what I would do. So it's it's not your fault. I appreciate you coming in. I appreciate you being willing to remove that section from
Yeah.
from the uh from the agreement.
Um
but to Garrett's point,
it it's a pretty lengthy document and um
it is,
you know, we we we take the time to read it and make notes and and I'm glad we do.
Yeah.
But I again, I appreciate your willingness to take that out. One thing I would say going back to voting on the design work moving forward is that there was an aggressive timeline to be able to qualify for these tax. I guess they're they're credits tax.
Yes.
I guess it's not a credit. with the
it's a direct pay credit from the I know it's weird because you're a town but it yeah it works as a credit
and and I I understand your position and the concerns that hey we're spending all of this money on the design that something may not come through but we did also do a pre review of the project with WHM who had given us the confidence that we're moving in the right direction and there was a high probability that we're going to pass the 8020 and that yes the the federal tax dollars will be there and they're not going to be pulled away for 10 years. So I understand your concern. I really do. But this is an opportunity for the town to take our wastewater treatment plant that is already state-of-the-art and take it to the next level uh for for a cost. And yes, there's there there could be risk to the project, but for a cost that could end up being covering the entire project or a good portion of that project because a lot of work was
already done. we already have I don't know how how many millions of dollars. The whole thing is basically brand new. So that those credits could apply to part of the project that is already there. And I I know it's changed, but the first estimate was that the project was going to cost eight or $9 million and we could get tax credits up to $14 million because of what's already there. Now, we can't, you know, sit here and say it's going to be $14 million and the total cost of the project is going to go down. But again, the the confidence of our our wastewater treatment plant leader at the moment and our finance director and with them. I I just feel like I have that trust in the the department heads and the work that has been done that in in the long run this is going to be a benefit for Webster. And honestly, this whole project there there was risk along the way in this project. there was risk of putting the cart before the horse of growing this project from $30 million to
I don't know $80 million $85 million. I betting on the come that Fair Life would come. So, I mean, I I I I understand the concerns, but these are to to me, these are we we've paid somebody to tell us we're moving in the right direction. And um I have confidence that this is going to be a great project for Webster.
Good. Thanks, Jen. I have confidence, too. I you know, we met with uh Navatas last week. John and I and and Bob Whmer and Paul are very confident that before the tax credit that the renewable natural gas program will offset our will be greater than like what we'll get back is greater than our bond payment each month which means that you know we're we're coming out on top and that's before this tax credit. So if this all comes through we're we're looking at a lot of money in revenue generators that towns don't get.
Have they increased their projection past the $500,000 of gas revenue then?
No substantially. So the in the meeting that we were at um the Navatas representative he stated that without even without the tax credits the revenue projection will cover the bond payment. He didn't say it was going to be more or less. He said it would cover it. And there's no guarantee. Okay? And this is my perception. This has been my problem with this project from day one. There's no guarantee that we're going to get these tax incentives. There's no guarantee and you guys cannot guarantee that five years down the road that the tax codes change. We lose those incentives, right? We have significant projects in my opinion that take priority over this elective project and the fact that we're also 120 million in debt. This is to me an optional project with no guarantee of significant revenue coming in. That's where I stand. Well, and you know, if the project costs $10 million, the bond is going to be about 600 is going to be about $600,000 a year. And if we only bring in $500,000 a year in RNG revenue, it can't possibly cover the bond.
Exactly.
So, like to me, we've there seems to be there's there's many steps left that we've got to get into. So, do we have a definitive list of what else we've got to figure out between RG&, selling the gas, tax credits, all these remaining pieces that we're kind of like, here's our master project list because we don't want to be rushed where like it's now July 15th, we have to make a decision on a Thursday to move forward or not because time's up and we're just gonna have to be like, well, we'll figure out some of these eight steps later like or we have a
and you bring up a great point and it's a point that hasn't been factored in at as far as cost goes. RG& is going to have to come onto our property and put some building up. We don't even know what the cost of that's going to be yet. We we have no idea. We have no idea. We have no idea of the cost of the hookup. And that that's just to me is unacceptable to make a decision without all the facts.
Just give Paul a chance to comment on this.
We don't know yet. Uh but Namatas is working on that component. That you are correct. There would be a small building the RG would have to put up. Um that should be all part of what they bring back to us first uh week in May. Oh, I mean that helps like being Paul that helps with some of this worry if we know like here's the data we need and we know like when they come in May if there's 10 steps we're going to have all 10 answered or then we're going to have seven answered and three later because right now we're all kind of theoretically talking about this that and the other
and that's really what what I kind of wanted to point out it it's all theory at this point with any development process we want to be cognizant and aware about how we're paying for these development projects I I We don't want to just say, "Hey, we're doing it. Pay for everything outright." And then be like, "Oh, shoot. This is way too expensive." So, there's always going to be a tiered process as to how we do this. And we're still in that factf finding place here where we have this opportunity to take what we did with our wastewater treatment plant and build onto that with this renewable natural gas that we're already releasing and hey, this is a cool opportunity to take advantage of that revenue stream. But we haven't approved that project yet. We approved the the estimate, John. to answer your questions and we know where you stand and that's wholly fair where I think what we're doing is we're getting a little bit too far ahead of it. We're answering all our questions right now by, you know, moving forward with our accounting firm to make sure that we're set in getting every benefit of the possible tax credits or reimbursements from the IRS, as you will. Um, but also still learning the other aspects of the development to say, is this still feasible? And yeah, that's the other 380 million or 380,000 that we paid for the rest of the project. So, I to Garrett's
point, yes, right now is the time that we establish what do we need to get answered, but I think I I do have a hard time with us poo pooing it right away without saying, "Hey, we haven't finished answering all the questions." I get it. We've spent a lot of money in this town, but we need to earn money to cover our basis, and this is an opportunity to get that revenue.
And and speaking of staying on top of stuff, um, Alex, is there an ETA on the notes from that Navatas meeting that you and John attended?
I texted Kim earlier today. She has all the meeting notes. She's supposed to be sending it to all four of you uh by tomorrow. Um but they also did state that, and Paul corrects me if I'm wrong, that their capital costs is lower than what we had originally anticipated.
I did. That's what Bob Whmer said.
Okay.
Without 100% of the drawings, I take no credence to that whatsoever. Right.
All right. Well, I cannot make this resolution because that's for me to sign it. Um,
well, it sounds like he's going to make some changes to the engagement letter anyways.
Well, we can approve the enga we can approve the signing of the engagement letter with the changes. So, I do when the motion is made, it needs to remove the two subjects that you and John had discussed and they had agreed to. So,
well, the other one is clarification on the exact testing done for the 8020 test of who's doing what, which I don't know how that's a little nebulous. I don't know exactly what that's going to say. Um, I think we need to have a conversation with them on like that wording. If if I could clarify, um I think the question was what percentage of the cost of phase one is related to the 8020 rule. I can put I can put on there that we'll have that done within let's say 70% of the total cost in phase one if you're willing to just proceed with approval on that basis if that's enough.
Well, I'd like some more clarification on like the role of like what do you expect some guidance from you on what we're going to do to determine the fair market value of those.
Okay. and those responsibilities
then I think that's that's probably a conver like we we need to have a side conversation and talk through it then
okay but if we continue to kick this can down the road how much time and money are we losing because this project was supposed to originally came up back in October so we are now looking five months later
I think it's important to have the clarification
yeah letters need to be accurate and you know we the time we put in ahead of time's important and we got to make sure it's right.
To clarify, you have two risks. One, if uh any of the work on site fails to continue to be continuous, you could potentially lose the credits. Um so, we need to make sure it remains continuous. Um secondarily, if if you wait too long, uh yeah, there's there's a risk that we're not able to prepare everything.
I think we can carry two weeks to straighten out this language in this on this agreement. We've already carried this two weeks, Paul. Then put it up for a vote, see where it goes.
Yeah. I mean, this is the part where we've got to do our work ahead of time and make sure it's right. And when we don't,
I agree.
This is the the end result. We've got to make sure it's right for the town with what we sign. There's limits on how vague we can be with wording. And that's where we're at. So, I have the same concern.
Jen, anything from you, Nick? I I'm in favor of moving forward for sake of time. Um but I think it it's uh it's important to take full advantage. So if there's an an opportunity for us to lose this here, that is a risk that I don't want to take.
Yeah. I don't think in two weeks we're going to risk losing
anything. It's not two weeks though. It's now four weeks from when we originally anticipated this.
Well, then it should have been right on us the first time. That's on us to not make sure things need to be right the first time in this. We can make the letter of engagement contingent upon these changes too and this conversation. So if you we can make it contingent upon you having this conversation with Jason within the next week and we can sign it the week after, not wait two weeks and then have the contracts come through. Correct, Kyle?
You can approve a contract with such contingencies if it's agreeable to the board as a whole, but that that's for the board to take up that vote.
Yeah, that's a recommendation from you, Kyle. kind like I don't know the answer of how nebulous can we be with like we're going to update provisions. Yes, you you could move to approve this contract for an amount not to exceed $121,500 uh contingent on the uh section U being struck from 7U being struck from the contract.
And Garrett had another one clarification that phase two uh excuse me, the 820 rule we complete is 70% of the overall cost of phase one. Okay. and uh working to clarify the roles that the town and uh MSSE will will play in establishing the value of of the components that uh that go into the 8020 analysis. Okay, you could make that that resolution uh with that level of of kind of
Okay, that helps to know because that's the part we don't know of like how nebulous and finite. Okay,
and we can put a duration uh that that you know that that conversation occurs and the engagement letter is finalized within a week.
Okay. First of all, I appreciate um I I really do appreciate Councilman Wagner's attention to detail. It's fantastic. And um I'm going to make a motion that let me I I I got to catch everything that you um said there, but I'm making a motion to authorize the town supervisor to sign an engagement letter with MS Consultants LLC to provide federal tax credit compliance services related to the wastewater treatment plant project renewable plant project renewable natural gas component for an amount not to exceed 121,500. That is contingent upon phase one um 70% cost of phase one which is between 18,000 and $22,000 um being completed on the 8020 rule. This pro and this contract would not advance if we failed the 8020 rule. It
is also subject to striking um
7U
7U from the terms and conditions and also um providing a more detailed clarification on the um preliminary application of the 8020 rule. uh we we want the details of who is going to be responsible for what um steps in performing that 8020 rule detailed of what the town is going to do versus what MSSE is going to do. So having that clarification, striking the term and terms and conditions and making sure we are not spending more than um the amount outlined in phase one and that is my very long motion.
Did you want to put a stipulate the amount of days?
Uh yes. Um and that that review is going to happen within the next week so that we can get this um MSA signed so we can keep this project moving forward and allow us the greatest possibility of getting multiple millions of dollars in tax.
You are you are going to be very happy.
I second that longest motion ever. Congratulations. You have to repeat it verbatim.
Congratulations. That was well done.
Councilwoman Wright I.
Councilman Wagner.
Hi.
Supervisor Sheldon.
I.
Councilman Cahill.
Nate.
Councilman Hunter.
I
I know you're going to be happy when this comes through. You're going to do a dance.
I I
We're all going to be happy.
I I sure hope that you're right, but I am very skeptical and remain skeptical. But you're promising me that that Councilman Cahill will dance.
No, I'm Irish. I can do the day, buddy.
Would you like to perform for us?
No, we'll wait till we'll see the outcome. All right. Nothing comes for free with me.
All right, Jen, you are highway liazison. So, the next two are all you.
Oh, well. Um, is there is there anything um is Pat I saw Pat come in. Is Pat here?
Yeah,
Pat, you're behind the pillar. I don't know if there's anything you want to say or
share or just make sure we
Yeah, Pat your two resolutions for us to for the administrative uh and construction management costs for the salt barn. If you would like to give a you know quick overview of it for why we're doing this can't go wrong.
Uh yeah, if there's any specific questions, I can definitely answer them. Uh so these are two solicitations for uh some professional services associated with the construction of the new salt barn uh that was uh the supervisor was authorized to sign the prime prime contracts. Uh one of them is for construction administration uh which is mostly going to um be in the form of organizational uh documentation. It's going to document a lot of the stuff that we're going to try to handle uh with the three prime contractors on site. Just keeping that organized in files with reports that uh everyone can review uh as needed. Um and then the other one is for um construction management uh which is a different version. Sorry, I think I mixed those up. Construction administration is going to be the review of submitts and things to do with the technical documents that come through it. It's pretty it's a standard uh scope of services for our con capital projects recently. And then the construction management is the organization and the documentation um of those process. So uh I put them out. We didn't contract this with the original design of the project which it can be done that way when you do the professional services. But because we weren't sure of the um final decision on whether the project was going to move forward, we opted to not
uh pay for that scope of services or contract for that scope of services all at the beginning because if the project didn't happen, we didn't want to have just an outlying scope of services that we'd have to essentially cancel. So we've segmented the professional services scope to go along with the approvals. Now that we have approval for construction, we have to go out for these services to give me a little bit of support as I manage it and keep make sure doc everything's documented um and reviewed properly to make sure that we're getting the building that's been designed. I I appreciate your uh my conversation with you with respect to these two issues and um you know they are professional services and they don't necessarily have to go out for bid but according to our our new policy um professional services above a project at a certain amount have to go out for for bid and I think that's a fantastic idea. It's a great policy. Thank you Paul for bringing this forward and that's all I have.
Yeah. Any questions from the board? Garrett?
Nope.
Jen,
no.
John,
no. Nick,
no.
All right. Then I will make a motion to advertise a request for proposals to provide professional construction administration administration services for the Salt Barn and wash out building project in the Wednesday, February 25th, 2026 Webster Herald edition with proposals due no later than Wednesday, March 18th, 2026.
Second.
Councilwoman Wright I.
Councilman Cahill. Hi,
Supervisor Sheldon.
I,
Councilman Hunter.
I,
Councilman Wagner. I
and I will also move to advertise a request for proposals to provide professional construction management services for the salt barn and wash out building project in the Wednesday, February 25th, 2026 Webster Herald edition with proposals due no later than Wednesday, March 18th, 2026.
Second.
Councilwoman Wright I. Councilman Cahill.
Hi.
Supervisor Sheldon.
Hi.
Councilman Hunter.
I.
Councilman Wagner.
Hi.
All right. Our next one is about uh cyber insurance. Um we had a nice long discussion with our uh head of IT earlier and Paul and
it yeah it does seem pricey. Um we are lucky to have uh cyber cyber insurance because municipalities are one of the most at risk organizations for this type of attack. So we have we have a uh we're lucky to have it at this point. Um but I do want to open up the floor to the board for any questions that they may have for our finance director Paul.
I don't have any questions but thank you for all the emails explaining um the process and um
you know something that we most certainly need. Yeah, and I think for for Steve at the end from it with, you know, Chimy at the end, you know, he had a lot of good details there and just it's good to bring different departments in on this because we talked about it's little nebulous like who does this fall under? It's a new thing and getting more input from the town is is always better.
So Nick, you're a resident insurance expert. Any questions?
No.
Jeff said no. Jen,
was there a question about there? I know there was one question about answering.
It was answered.
I'm sorry. I didn't see that before the meeting today.
So, we're good.
Yes. Question was answered and Joe the insurance person confirmed he got the answer and no changes.
Joe Aesi is fantastic.
Who's um is this it has to make this?
No, no, no, no. This is finance.
Okay. So, who's finance? Nick.
No, that's me. But the one signing it, so Nick is our insurance group.
Go ahead, Nick.
I make a resolution to authorize the town supervisor to sign the Houston casualty cyber insurance application to renew the policy for the period beginning March 18th, 2026 and ending March 18th of 2027 at a premium cost of $ 38,840.889.
Second.
Councilman Hunter. I,
Councilman Cahill,
I,
Supervisor Sheldon,
I,
Councilwoman Wright.
I,
Councilman Wagner,
I.
So, the next one is me. I'll uh I'll move to approve the following items for recycling from the sewer department as described on the agenda. That's my motion.
Second.
Councilman Cahill,
I.
Supervisor Sheldon,
I.
Councilwoman Wright,
I. Councilman Hunter,
I.
Councilman Wagner,
I.
All right, it is time for the round table of board members so they have a chance to discuss what's going on within their departments. Garrett, would you like to go first?
Uh, sure, why not? You know, I think, you know, thinking about what we talked about tonight and those other pieces and especially with the Westb Hamlet and that slow and steady progress. You know, remind me of that old story, the tourist in the hair. And it really as a municipality, you know, our goal is not to go fast. You know, we're not a high-tech startup that needs to rush through things. Thank you, Jennifer, for the micro modulation. You know, we don't need to rush through. And that's part of that slow, deliberate doing our work, bringing departments in, asking questions, making sure things are right. It's not the glamorous part. It's not the fun part of what we do. But as you heard again again, like it's so important that we all look at what we do because no matter what it is, big or small project, we all care and you all care. That's why you're all here. Now, some of the people left already. They, you know, they missed the end, but that's why they're here, right? To to see what we do and we're responsible to act on behalf of all those people, which is so so important. So, I think just that good reminder for all of us, slow and steady, great progress. Hopefully, like you said, West Webster Hamlet, we'll see some more of that and it'll pay off.
Attention to detail.
Yep. Jen.
Well, I I guess the first one is one that we talk about every week. And I'll just because Pat's here, thank you and your entire team for the fantastic work that you're doing with all of the snow this winter. It's been uh it's been crazy and and ice yesterday. So, um appreciate all you're doing there. And um I guess I don't have a specific program at parks and recreation, but I will put in the announcement that there are so many um different events and classes and and things for folks to do of all ages at our parks and recreation department. And I encourage people to take a look online and sign up for some of the programming. So because there's some really cool stuff there.
Daughter was there this week. John.
So I Gary made a lot of good points um in the discussions today and um it as a board our most important responsibility in my my perception is the fiscal responsibilities of the decisions that we make on behalf of our taxpayers. Um so I I I enjoy your level of attention to detail. Um benefits everybody. Okay. The other thing is we have begun the initial phase of talks with Penfield regarding an IM an I what do you call it?
IMA
IMA um regarding the ambulance service. We're just in the first stage of it. So we had a meeting today. like get to know I didn't know the new supervisor down there. Didn't know the uh the new town board member. Um very very nice people. I think we're going to get we're on the right path. Um so that's that's new. Um as soon as treatment plant the project continues to move forward. I appreciate the fact that I've been allowed to attend monthly update meetings which um I'm kind of like on a learning curve you could say because this is the first I've been liaison to the sewage treatment plan. So it's been very enlightening. Um, we had a a meeting with Rory Fitzpatrick, um, which is on the team of Navatas to get a better understanding of his interaction with not only Fair Life, but also Navatas and it was very educational and they've been extremely supportive on these projects. So, it was it was it was a great meeting. That's all I had.
Nick,
thanks guys. Um, so from a communication standpoint, I was talking to Bridget before. Um, we're going to have an information survey that we're going to send out to residents the end of March. We want to get a better understanding and Bridget, if there's anything I'm saying incorrect, please shout at me. Uh, but we want to get a better understanding of how residents want to hear from the town. Um, so that survey will come out the end of next month. So, please keep an eye out for that. Um, and we're also the communications department's going to be kind of collabing with the rest of the departments uh for a 250th anniversary celebration for the country. So, keep an eye out for that. Um, from a police department standpoint, I just want to thank them for all the work that they do. I winter is a tough time for our highway department as well as our police department. Um, they shared a couple of reminders. Our our chief just wants to in the winter times, you know, take your time when you're driving. We had a lot of accidents in the last week. That takes a lot of resources, manpower. Um, so just be cognizant, be nice to each other. Um, and as always, if you see something, say something. But it it's important to these these days are tough. Wintertime is tough in upstate New York for for our service workers. So, just make sure you give them a little extra
space.
Oh, can I can I go back? There's one other thing. There is one other thing
just for you, Jen.
Two minutes. This is back to highway and it's back to communications. There has been a lot of concerns with potholes
and who to call on what road and the communications part department did put something out. I'm not sure if it's on the website. It is on Facebook who to call depending on what type of road you're on. If you don't know if it's a state or a county or a town road, if you do call the highway department, they will be happy to assist you in getting it taken care of or directing you to somebody who can. It's been a brutal winter and there are a ton of potholes and we're still in the midst of that brutal winter. So, you know, to the degree they can be mitigated in certain areas they will be, but we all need to have patience. I know there's like a huge one right on 104 and you just need to get in the habit of switching lanes when you get to that one wherever it is between like 250 and I think the hard road or Holt Road. It's bad, but there's not too much that can be done. As
frustrating as that may seem, until the weather gets a little nicer. So, have patience. Remember where they are, slow down, go around them,
use if it's a state road, we had a meeting, I was at a meeting um yesterday evening and our assemblyman uh Brian and I can't pronounce his last name. Angler if if you call his office directly or email his office directly he's our assemblyman he will jump right on it he's very very good about that stuff
when separate from the roadway I forgot
all right
the just for now everybody's trying
this is very important though because she's sitting right there our assess our clerk's office just finished up real estate tax collement tax ah real estate tax collection which was huge so thank you for that because that was a mammoth you know the First time being inside the town and seeing how many people come. It is truthfully like crazy how many people come in person.
She did it short-handed, too.
I always come in person and say hi and pay my taxes. Forget us growing taxes. Pay my taxes.
All right, Alex, now you're up.
Uh, no, I just I I want to say thanks to John for that uh meeting today with the EMS. Um both Kevin Barry, supervisor of Penfield, myself and uh uh Bill Lang, who's their AMS liaison, we're all new to this. So John's knowledge of the ambulance service and understanding the process that we've gone through is going to be invaluable and I don't think we could have a better person leading the initiative
for a proper IMA. So I really want to uh thank you for your work and I'm I'm very have you as doing that. Um, other than that there I I just want to thank all of our great staff at town hall there. Denine is the best of the best. Do you have anything?
The town staff wishes not to discuss such matters.
Okay.
All right.
Um, yeah. No, that is it with uh if the board has nothing else to bring
and we're done.
We're done. Uh, I officially close up the adjourn. Wait,
I make a motion to adjurnn.
Second. workshop the town board meeting. Second by Kay Hill.
All in favor?
I have to do your thing.
Yeah.
Okay.
Supervisor Sheldon,
I want to say, but I trying to expert.
Is this a new thing?
Did you say?
I said I. Yes.
Councilman Kale.
Hi.
Councilwoman Wright.
Hi.
Councilman Hunter.
I. Councilman Wagner.